James Ray Death Lodge Trial Nearing an End; Faces Nine Years in Prison For Sweat Lodge Deaths

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• Pipe down, man. I got some good news for you. Your snake oil here is sentenced. Justice is served, the case is closed, and a dark chapter ends. Get over it now.

• no, let's sentence him to the maximum for being a greedy jackass!

• oh really? I live in Yavapai county and I hoped they would fry the bastard. I don't believe in the death penalty but that is one case where I would have supported it.

• The Titanic sinking was an accident too but someone was responsible for ordering all the boilers lit, for ordering full ahead full, for ignoring the ice warnings...result - the loss of 1700 lives. Someone had to pay and they did. Capt. Smith went down with his ship and White Star chairman J. Bruce Issmay was forced to retire. But Deayh Ray only killed three people accidentilly so lets tell him its OK bevause he's such a nice person and give him a walk.

• Well, shoot. Then Mr. Ray is a better man than me too, because I happen to agree with Mr. King. But I wouldn't take Mom to court to beg the judge for mercy to keep me out of prison. Actually, now that I think of it there wouldn't have been an 'awful accident' if Mr. Ray had exercised good judgement when he conducted the sweat lodge, right? And he would still be out there selling his words to folks like yourself who need someone to tell them to learn to think for themselves. Yes, Mr. Ray belongs in prison. You can go there and visit him.

• I find it interesting that Mr. Ray has made many dollars espousing the idea of 'self-help' to solve life's problems. Then, at his age, he has his mother plead to the judge to keep him out of prison. I think Mr. Ray needs to take responsibility for his actions and spend his time in prison trying to help those in prison who need his kind of help. If nothing else, he will have a captive audience. But the pay won't be the same.

• Nay.  There is an implicit understanding that they would not be lead to do something that could cause physical harm.  There was a trust built and then violated.  Sweat Lodge is NDN.  Only NDN's should run it.  And those NDN's should be trained to understand physical tolerances that can vary according to ethnicity and even to diet and therefore be supportive and not place feelings of fear of insult or rejection if the body simply cannot tolerate.  People have no business borrowing when it was not theirs to begin with. 

• Is that part of his teaching - calling people sick minded? You obviuosly learned about the laws of attraction

• sick minded Erin. James A Ray is a kind person, a loving person, and it was an awful dreadful accident.

• To James King - "snake oil salesman' type of writer.If you listened to his Collapse of your world CDs and aren't changed for the better, closer to God, more enlightened, more loving and peaceful, than you are the only one. Period. Mr Ray did make a bad decision, but is was an accident, an accident ! Yes, awful, but an accident ! And James Arthur Ray is a far better man than the judgmental ' writer' of this article.

• Hi Erin, Those posts are duplicate because they are from the same person. He uses hundreds of different names and was never a fan of James Ray. In fact, sometimes he seems to despise him. This guy trolls many sites is known for using the 3 parentheses on each side of his words to add power to them.

• Three dead and 17 hospitalized and at least a dozen more who have admitted to being psychologically traumatized.  Nope, most didn’t suffer adverse effects.  Hey, while we're at it, lets call people dishonorable, Name calling, that's the honorable thing to do, right?

• Its the same person.  he likes to cut and paste.  remember Kindergarten?  Cut out the flower and paste it on the construction paper - same concept.

• No the people OPERATING the water park are responsible for your safety, just as James Ray, who was OPERATING this event was responsible for the safety of the participants.  There is a water park near me and the property owner lives in CA, not AZ but the park is operated by an AZ corporation.  Who is responsible for the safety of the visitors, the landlord or the managemnet company running the park?  The people running the park of course.  Also I would not say thatl one third of the JRI Death Lodge event participants who were hospitalized to be an insignificant number.  Stop making excuses under all your copy and paste posts and admit Ray IS responsible.

• Wow!  How do you go from being convicted in the death of people to being a "convicted snake-oil salesman" in an opening sentence?  By having journalists give their opinion rather than fact.  Just a stupid way to judge others.

• Most suffered no adverse effects from the JRI sweat lodge ceremony. THEIR  experiences count EVEN MORE!! Of course you can expect washouts at a marathon or any extreme sports activity, but responsible adults PROMISED in writing to take full responsibility for their actions at that event. THEY PROMISED and they should keep their promises no matter what ANY judge may say! That's what honorable people do, but obviously, you wouldn't know about honor. It has no meaning for the likes of you dishonorable.

• If you pay to go to a water park are you expected to bring your own lifeguard?

• In other words (YOU ALSO) cannot come up with so much as a SINGLE REASON that would justify Angel Valley owner Mr Hamilton not having emergency personnel on duty that day for the two-hours of the JRI sweat lodge ceremony conducted on HIS PROPERTY using HIS SWEAT LODGE.

• In other words ((YOU ALSO)) cannot come up with so much as a SINGLE REASON that would justify Angel Valley owner Mr Hamilton not having emergency personnel on duty that day for the two-hours of the JRI sweat lodge ceremony conducted on HIS PROPERTY using HIS SWEAT LODGE.

• In other words (((YOU ALSO))) cannot come up with so much as a SINGLE REASON that would justify Angel Valley owner Mr Hamilton not having emergency personnel on duty that day for the two-hours of the JRI sweat lodge ceremony conducted on HIS PROPERTY using HIS SWEAT LODGE.

• BUT IT WAS ON (((HIS))) PROPERTY USING (((HIS SWEATLODGE))) and that make Mr Hamilton DIRECTLY responsible for the people at that event!

• IT WASN'T HIS EVENT

• it is the responsibility of the event holder to ensure all the proper safety measures are in place. pass the buck much?

• who put on the event again? let's focus on the issue, mkay?

• killing three people through negligence is quite bad in the scale of things. what are you his PR team?

• let's take a close look at the guy who said "you will feel like you are going to die, but you will be perfectly fine"

• Why didn't JAMES RAY hire the emergency personnel to be on hand? Because he didn't give a shit about these people and it would cost him MONEY!

• In other words YOU ALSO cannot come up with so much as a SINGLE REASON that would justify Angel Valley owner Mr Hamilton not having emergency personnel on duty that day for the two-hours of the JRI sweat lodge ceremony conducted on HIS PROPERTY using HIS SWEAT LODGE.

• wow nearly duplicate posts like yours are on MANY sites right now. James Arthur Ray's sheeple  might be out in droves but that won't keep him from burning in hell (and hopefully a nice hot prison cell with a nice hot prison mate named Bubba)

• Enough already. We got it the first time.

• lets serve some justice. this has gone on long enough . put him a nice hot cell already!

• The wise DO NOT wish bad things happening to those who have done them no personal wrong. Only losers do such things

• In other words you cannot come up with so much as a SINGLE REASON that would justify Angel Valley owner Mr Hamilton not having emergency personnel on duty that day for the two-hours of the JRI sweat lodge ceremony conducted on HIS PROPERTY using HIS SWEAT LODGE.

• Give him his 9 years in the clink. And it's over with. Enough said. We're tired of this James Ray shit. 

• BTW: Saying James Arthur Ray would not have liked Mr Hamilton hiring emergency personnel for those two-hours is not enough of an excuse for endangering the lives of those people in a sweat lodge Mr Hamilton KNEW Ray wanted hotter than ever before.

• BTW: Saying James Arthur Ray would not have liked Mr Hamilton hiring emergency personnel for those two-hours is not enoCan't answer this, can you. Three people died because Mr Hamilton did not do ANYTHING to protect those people LOOK, I ASK AGAIN: WHAT POSSIBLE EXCUSE COULD ANGEL VALLEY OWNER MR HAMILTON HAVE FOR NOT HIRING EMERGENCY PERSONNEL FOR THOSE TWO-HOURS OF THE JRI SWEAT LODGE CEREMONY?   ugh of an excuse for endangering the lives of those people in a sweat lodge Mr Hamilton KNEW Ray wanted hotter than ever before.

• I've asked this many times and you people who are against Mr Ray can't answer this, can you. Three people died because Angel Valley owner Mr Hamilton did not do ANYTHING to protect those people I ASK AGAIN: WHAT POSSIBLE EXCUSE COULD ANGEL VALLEY OWNER MR HAMILTON HAVE FOR NOT HIRING EMERGENCY PERSONNEL FOR THOSE TWO-HOURS OF THE JRI SWEAT LODGE CEREMONY?  

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