Occupy Phoenix Day Six: Cesar Chavez Plaza Looks Like Scooby-Doo Ghost Town

Categories: Occupy _____
occupiersdaysix.jpg
James King
(Crickets...)
It's day six of the "Occupy Phoenix" demonstration in Cesar Chavez Plaza, and there are now officially more protest signs than there are actual protesters.

We dropped by this afternoon to see how the occupation was going -- we weren't shocked to find the crowd dwindled from about 1,000 when the occupation began Saturday to roughly 16 this afternoon.

How long do they plan to "occupy" downtown Phoenix?

"'Til ever," one female occupier tells New Times -- after screaming "they took my house, but I feed my kids. I'm a good mother" at a passing car.

We didn't have the heart to tell her that hanging out in a public plaza and screaming at cars probably isn't going to get her house back.

According to the protester, things are looking up for the occupiers, though -- word around the occupation is they'll soon be allowed to spend the night in the plaza.

We asked Phoenix Sergeant Steve Martos if there's any truth to this.

Martos says the Phoenix PD asked a legal team for advice on how to handle the occupation. According to the attorneys, Cesar Chavez Plaza is more of a "public forum" than it is a "public park." That means the occupiers are allowed to stay in the plaza as long as they want, but must adhere to other city ordinances about obstructing public spaces.

In other words, the occupation can go all night as long as the occupiers don't set up a shanty town and fall asleep. That is, as long as the occupiers are awake and not in a tent, they can remain in the plaza as long as they want.

Phoenix police also have "become aware" that some of the "99-percenters" have put the phone numbers and addresses of people who've spoken out against the occupation on various websites. Word is they're encouraging occupiers to to go to the homes of the opposition and hassle people.

Check back tomorrow for another update on the occupation of Phoenix.


Sponsor Content

My Voice Nation Help
41 comments
Sondra Carr
Sondra Carr

This article seems REALLY biased, and I'm coming at it from the perspective of having a lot of doubts about this movement already, so if _I_ say that, you know it's true. Mr. King shouldn't be allowed to write about this movement - he's a propagandist with a definite bent. I want to know WHY the woman was screaming at the car - one sided "reporting" is part of the problem, Mr. King - YOU are part of the problem. And you know it. Remember when people in your profession used to care about things like truth and objectivity?

Linda Baugh
Linda Baugh

The New Times coverage of Occupy Phoenix is.......puzzling.   16 people?  Really?  that may be the numer at 6 AM because few folks stay overnight....for the simple reason that NO SLEEPING is allowed.  The police will come by every few minutes to rouse anyone who appears to be sleeping.   Ever gone 24 or 30 hours without sleep?  Some of the Occupy Phoenix people have, and are, right now.

After 5 PM, those of us who are working regular hours start to show up, that's when the numbers swell...and if you had checked on Saturday there were a couple hundred folks.

I have been at the event every day since the 15th and have never heard anyone encourage anyone to go to any person's home and harrass them, in fact, just the opposite.   We have been through the nonviolence training of Dr. Martin Luther King.   Where do you get this garbage that you print?  And BTW, I have never heard anyone speak of any specific individuals who "oppose" the group.  The occupiers are waaaaay to busy just keeping the occupation going.

PS:  Did you know there is a journalist's code of ethics?   Look it up.

restitutiontouscitizensfirst
restitutiontouscitizensfirst

"There is no such thing, at this stage of the world’s history in America, as an independent press. You know it and I know it. There is not one of you who dare write your honest opinions, and if you did, you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid weekly for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for similar things, and any of you who would be foolish as to write honest opinions would be out on the streets looking for another job. If I allowed my honest opinions to appear in one issue of my papers, before twenty-four hours my occupation would be gone. The business of the journalist is to destroy the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and to sell his country and his race for his daily bread. You know it and I know it, and what folly is this toasting an independent press? We are the jumping jacks, they pull the strings and we dance. Our talents, our possibilities and our lives are all the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes." [2] [3][edit]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J... - 1901

Leonardclark
Leonardclark

As usual Mr. King, you are counting your chickens before they're hatched.  So tell us: Are you going to be eatiing your crow with "humility"  or "embarrassed ignorance" when we re-take our democratic republic from this banksters, corporate gangsters? Don't worry I will be there to serve it to you alfresco at Caeser Chavez Plaza !  Yes We Can !"Banks got bailed out, we got sold out !"Leonard ClarkArizona NativeIraq Vet 10-23-11

Markus West
Markus West

I paticipated for 7 days. Only a handfull would be actually protesting while the others hide in the shadows socializingand complaining about the govt. sitting on their ass. Hardly any boots on the ground SHAMEFUL PHOENIX, this is about the worst a state can be, economically,politically, this was a slave state.I see no enthusiasm with these people. I am for the movement but not here in Phoenix. SAD,SAD,SAD.

Lilyoakalane
Lilyoakalane

You, and the other ignorant, apathetic people that share your Rush Limbaugh/Fox News propaganda poisoned consciousness, are a primary reason that our country is such a mess today.  Not only do you do nothing to bring about necessary constructive change, but out of the frustration of your shallow processes you need to denigrate the people that actually have hearts and want to do something to help their country and their people.  I totally feel sorry for you.  You really don't get it, and judging from the content of your writing, it appears doubtful that you ever can get it.  Too bad for you.  Good luck.

restitutiontouscitizensfirst
restitutiontouscitizensfirst

I am the public that paid for that park.  If I want to go sleep in that park I damn well will do exactly that.  If I hear problems about the public being in the park that they paid for maybe many more of us public will get our disabled butts down there too!  We are the 99%!

One woman = one vote!  One man = one vote!

We have the technology now.  We should be able to have a truly representative government but of course that is not what is wanted by the 1%.

James King!  Why don't you stop being a snarky corporate mouthpiece and join the truth?

Jason2002
Jason2002

Now that the many are able to speak out in unision, rather than complaining uselessly in our living rooms to one another or at  gas pumps, bank statement or the insurance bill. The information age has brought us out of the darkness and into ear shot KNOCK IT OFF! I have had enough of your greed and parilizing infuence over my life at the expense of my inability to do anything but bend over and take it up the #ss 

Jason2002
Jason2002

Are you tired of the banks hiking your rates, charging frivolis fees, unjustfully taking advantage of americans, The gasoline companies charging without concern for the american consumer,. Insurance companies taking advantage of LONG time customers on mere technicalities just so they dont have to pay, Tired of the way that major donations control laws, major companies take advantage of americans and third world countries so that they can make more money off american consumers, I have a voice they have been acting without regard and i want it to stop!occupy phoenix

Murin Ar Panterac
Murin Ar Panterac

GO TO YOUTUBE AND SEARCH THE VIDEO "Anonymous- Operation No Middle Ground v2.0"

That being said I have to agree with some of the posters on here. This article was written poorly a corporate paid candyass lazy reporter who did little to no research. The fact that there wasn't many protesters at whatever time he went there, (which was probably 9 am btw) means absolutely zero. Its fools like James King that are trying to shut down protests because their masters don't want everyone to know that people are FINALLY waking up and taking a stand.

As for the Occupation itself.. I knew that the police would start arresting people for even the smallest infraction. With a supporter of the Police State Tyranny such as Sheriff Joe what did anyone expect? Got a newsflash for you though... things are happening behind the scenes. Larger protests are being organized and when they happen James King here won't show his face down there or anywhere the Protests are actually happening. He'll be too afraid he'd get lynched.

EXPECT US

Tsuki_writer
Tsuki_writer

I think this article may be hyperbolic and biased; these photos in this video are from Occupy PHX days two through five and it doesn't seem very deserted: http://youtu.be/m-L31p8g848 

eo93
eo93

they were at the city council meeting.

karlleuba
karlleuba

Mr King, I see a lot of commentary saying you are being biased.  I suppose that opinion is formed from the words your article contains, but personally, you seem to be reporting facts.  The problem is you say you Dropped by.  I am about to do the same, but I expect to stay awhile.

Mene Tekel
Mene Tekel

It's a weekday. Of course it seems deserted. Because these people have to work or look for work. I want to see what it's like on Saturday. I agree with King that this protest deserves some cynicism, but maybe not this much.

Anonymous
Anonymous

There are committees being formed to handle various operations with concern to human rights. Maybe you should attend the daily GA at 7pm and see how many people are working together to try and bring about change. If you think this is a protest its not, its a movement, and its socially interacting with one another and making new connections to build this movement. There will be the haphazard at times, but don't think that there aren't powerful forces at work, and dedicated individuals willing to risk it all to see it succeed. 

Don't be rash, foolish or naive. 

mirele
mirele

Wow...another nearly content-free snarkfest from James King. I know you measure the success of your blog posts by the number of comments you get, but perhaps you might try for something resembling *news* for future posts?

TANSTAAFL
TANSTAAFL

Occupiers: Wanna actually effect some change - on Wall St. and elsewhere? Try this: Open an online brokerage account.  If you don't know how to do that, Google "Online Brokerage Account" and hit the Motley Fool link (apropos anyhow . . .) . . . there's a list of online brokerages there; pick one. Now find the listing for the evil capitalist exploiter corporation of your choice and buy one share of its common stock.  Next, visit the website of your chosen evil capitalist exploiter corporation and find its annual shareholder meeting notice and materials; the SEC has required these to be posted online for several years. Follow the guidance for introducing motions, nominating directors, voting, etc. Take action according to your most deeply-held convictions.  Encourage your fellow Occupiers to do likewise.

What's that? Sounds complicated? Costs money to buy stock? Don't understand some of the motions being voted on? The impact of your convictions on one issue (say, environmental, labor relations, etc.) conflicts with that of your convictions on another (say, offshoring, value of your one-share investment, etc.)? Easier to just catch a ride down to Chavez Plaza for the daily stink-in?  Simpler to just tweet recycled DailyKOS vitriol between level-ups? 

Thought so . . .

RetiredArmy
RetiredArmy

Funny thing James, if you really believe the Occupy Phoenix protest is that insignificant, why do you keep reporting on it?

I mean I thought you where all for the First Amendment.

You know the one that gives you cover for articles like this one, The lady that lost her house doesn't have access to a media outlet like you do. She actually has to make an effort to make her voice heard. As she has a right to do, just like you.

So while New Times may be able to hire a lobbyist to amplify it's voice, this woman is left with screaming in frustration.

Guest
Guest

To set the record straight, this article is showing significant bias and cynicism towards the occupy movement.  I would like to clarify that many of the individuals pushing this movement work and/or go to school during the day.  As a result, the numbers depicted in this poorly formulated article do not reflect the actual number of supporters who show up at varying times of the day to give support and donate to other occupiers. I happened to stop by tonight and was greeted by over 50 occupiers.  Additionally, during the past several days police have not allowed the occupiers to sleep at night lest they would be arrested.  Thus, on top of the number of occupiers who have other duties to fulfill, many were forced to leave the park in order to get a decent rest, only to come back again that night.  I would suggest that if you want to continue to accurately report what is going on during the occupy movement, that you actually do some investigative work and proper interviews in order to accrue the proper amount of information so that you can actually formulate an intelligent and accurate article Mr. King.

Dennis Gilman
Dennis Gilman

King,

The 99% even includes lazy, cynical, washed up republican journalists like yourself.The mother you make fun of doesn't really need your advice or failed solutions butI guess thats what lazy reporters ( and this is really lazy reporting ) do.  

Never mind digging into why so many people lose their houses while banks would rather take them and sell them for much less then rewriting the loan or the fact they got bailed out while a mother who lost her home gets to be made fun of by a financial genuis like you.  Where is the retraction from your first dribble on the occupation when you said it was already ended? 

If 16 people were there, thats twice the number that were there in New York in it's first few days. You sound just like the Fox reporters and other republican talking heads a month ago. Now as this movement has changed the National discusion, you're still at the round table with Glen Beck and Bill O'Rielly. Good for you James. You've finally arrived.

Jason2002
Jason2002

There is a point to he movement it is not some fly by night thing. Maybe the camping out for weeks on end and chanting we are 99% may be a little over the top but the overall message does not fall on deaf ears. The occupy movement is about the 99% of the population that have not been able to have their voices heard, The 1% of the population keep getting richer living their gaudy lifestyles and their only complaint is the stock market dropping while the other 99% of the population is losing jobs, houses, ability to provide health insurance for their families. It is finally a platform for the majority voice to be heard instead of the money from the exxons, banks, insurance companies Ect. I am okay with rich people being rich just as I am okay with poor people being poor but the greed in the filthy rich has taken advantage of americans jobs, homes and healthcare. I do not want handouts i just want to be able to work to provide for my family.

Broski Love
Broski Love

WOW! You guys really occupied Phoenix and got the change you wanted.

ExpertShot
ExpertShot

King has shown us again and again why he lacks the humility to adhere to a code of ethics.  He has repeatedly put in print outright lies and failed, when presented with irrefutable truth of the opposite of his l lie, to retract said untruths.  He is the worst kind of journ(cough)alist, an arrogant one.  Mr. King, I challenge you to spend a week down at ground zero of the fight to restore a middle class to this country and fight the "Tory" character, such as you exhibit,  amongst our fellow 99% AND the 1%. 

Bnbk
Bnbk

Leonard,there are many of us in Az that do support this movement even if we cannot be there every day. Just because people have jobs & are busy through-out the week doesn't mean there is no support.This movement has more hidden support than many people realize & will continue to grow just by word of mouth.

Leonardclark
Leonardclark

Markus, you are a plant and you are not fooling us !Leonard Clark

Sondra Carr
Sondra Carr

Or perhaps they don't want to be forced into taking part in a con-man game that you've replaced real life with. Maybe we all don't want our children to HAVE to gamble just to live. I know - radical thinking eh? Kind of like our forefathers were thinking - radical.

Sorry you think that living our entire lives like strung out whores and gamblers in Vegas is a "good life" but some of us do not - we're not willing to be like "Rich Dad" and give up things like love and family and community so we can "win" at the game that never should have been. We want balanced full lives that don't have to be money centric. Too hard to understand with your heartless money centric thinking? I suggest picking up a bible or any other piece of literature - asking your wives and children if they are actually happy or just feigning it and buying some semblance of the happiness they know in their heart cannot ever come from money but that they lost sight of how to attain.

You sanctimonious ass - your anger and disgust is a projection - you really want to aim that in the mirror - you know that you've created a world in which your children and mine no longer have a choice of whether or not to sell their soul - they have to or they die. But you're too lazy to take stock of the fact that you even have a soul or consider what it may mean to be a part of something bigger than yourself - your FEAR made you do what you've done - you can't keep rewriting it as some sort of value for too long - eventually, you'll have to face yourself.

restitutiontouscitizensfirst
restitutiontouscitizensfirst

If they no longer have a job, if they no longer have a house, if they no longer have internet . . . . .aw just shut up already!

Guest
Guest

16 people sitting around a public square is not a movement. If so, this movement isn't growing, its shrinking. 

Sinologist100
Sinologist100

Some of the people on this site have been a bit critical of the protesters, but the protesters have the "courage" to venture out into public and fight for the issues that you have thoroughly noted above.  I was always critical of the fact that Americans lack the spirit of true protest, which is seen quite often in many European cities.  These protests, no matter how small are crucial to the future and value of America.

guest
guest

I've worked for myself for years and have always had lots of clients. I guess I'm just better than you, jason.

Sondra Carr
Sondra Carr

As are those reporting on them, obviously. And those commenting - did you honestly think that was a "smart" comment, Or that your username was "witty"?

Guest
Guest

I suggest you read more than one article about the occupy movement before you jump to conclusions you ignorant ass.

Now Trending

Phoenix Concert Tickets

Around The Web

From the Vault

 

Loading...