Occupy Phoenix: Banks Are Evil, the Government's Evil, and Jan Brewer's a "Lying Whore" With Alzheimer's

• Good advice, but I've noticed people tend to ignore it. "My dad was a Democ-RAT, or my dad was a Republi-CON and I'm voting as a Democ-RAT, or a Republi-CON. It's a family tradition. Really? What if jumping off of cliff when one reaches 60 was a "family tradition"? It's a trite,and too used quote but it's true nevertheless, " One definition of INSANITY, is to do the same thing over and over, but except a different result." The Democrat and Republican Parties are two sides of the same worthless coin. They shaft Americans every couple of years, and once every four years, and then they go out and have dinner together and play golf. It's all an elaborate mirage, a chimera, and many Americans are still being fooled by it. A third party that cares about the lives of American citizens, AND ONLY AMERICAN CITIZENS UNTIL WE GET THIS COUNTRY ON THE RIGHT TRACK AGAIN, IS THE ONLY WAY OF POSSIBLY GETTING ANY REAL REPRESENTATION.

• You don't care about immigration policies? Good luck then. The geniuses that run D.C. our so --called elected representatives, ALL OF THEM, are going to campaign sooner or later for re-election, including the President. Now, one big issue that ALL OF THEM, are going to shoot their lying, duplicitous mouths off about, will be JOBS. Sounds good so far. But are you aware, that while they shoot their pie holes off about jobs, they are still allowing over one-million people a year into the U.S.!!! Now I assume these aren't all retired people. So when you say you don't care about immigration policies, then you must be independently wealthy, or possibly a guy that's dropped out of the workforce with no intention of returning. BUT IF YOU DON'T FALL INTO THIS CATEGORY, then I would think twice about ignoring immigration policy. The thing I often wonder about is whether the OWS, movement even knows these statistics, because it's a little weird that one would protest Wall Street, and talk of jobs for young  Americans and othera, when Wall Street and policticians tied to it, argue for open borders, illegal immigration, and a legal immigration policy that allows over a million people a year to enter the U.S. at a time of a wrecked economy. Could one of you open borders geniuses please explain the strategy of our leaders to me? Honestly, I'm curious as to your thoughts on this.. 

• GO TO YOUTUBE AND SEARCH THE VIDEO "Anonymous- Operation No Middle Ground v2.0"

• I am a 99% i dont care about immigration policies because this country was based on and developed by immigrants and i am all for anyone that wants to work hard to earn their money. My complaint is the money from corporate america ruling our government, the banks, insurance, gasoline companies ect, squeezing the money out of us, taking advantage of us and we cant do a thing but vote for the person that we would like to be controlled by corporate greed.

• What I am getting from it is that there are plenty of folk thinking the way I am thinking - we are so done with left or right, elephants & donkeys, R-listers and D-listers - OFF WITH THEIR HEADS!  (just joking)

• To all those who support the Occupation, remember DRIP. Don't Re-elect Incumbent Politicians. That will be the first step in getting this country back.  Can anyone tell me they're happy with the way the current administration is running?? DRIP, DRIP, DRIP, DRIP!!!!!! 

• New Times, you disappoint me.  I was there on Saturday and I know for a fact you're way off the mark. I'm neither a hippie nor a young college student.  I'm a middle class mom, and it's not about entitlement, it's about standing up for what's right.  It's about wanting a decent future for our children.   I came to this website looking for more details on the negotiating that went on between former State Senator Alfredo Guitierrez and Mayor Gordon's office about keeping the protest nonviolent and finding an approved place to camp.   Guitierrez kept his end of the deal even when the Mayor backpedaled.  What about the arrested protesters' claims that their rights were violated, Miranda was not read to some, others went 10 hours without water, they were released without their belongings so they were without car keys, house keys, money, etc.   Your paper wins awards for investigative reporting, so how is it that you don't know about this things?  

• Well, Mr. Simmons, as the old saying goes, "talk is cheap."

• Hmmm. I've heard that statement parroted by wing nuts enough now to recognize a "scripted talking point". Bullshit repeated ad nauseum is still bullshit. To state that - because a OWS/OP protester has any kind of manufactured gadget, or designer clothes, or is consuming a "McDonalds hamburger" - thereby invalidates the protesters message is oh-so-typical of the awesomely narrow minded thought pattern of so-called conservatives. It is not iPads, or Blackberry's, or even GD McDonald's hamburgers being protested here, you morons. Its the corporate takeover of the United States government. That's why we fight. That's what drives us to sacrifice our time, hard earned money, and yes - blood - to stir America's besieged lower economic class to take back this country from the Wall Street Greed Mongers. And we will prevail, by any means necessary...

• you are not even qualified as a proper gob of shite; when your skank muther squirted you out,  all you were, ( and still are), is a stinky little butt raisin, leaving skid marks on the collective chonies of teabaggers.

• Maybe he can't get a job. Maybe the job he used to do or was skilled at is outsourced. If he is an American without a job, he's still and American. That's whats basically, fucking you people up. Dont' you get it? Are you for outsourcing, Are you for insourcing? Are you for job and wage depressing illegal immigration,and the ethnic interest groups that represent illegal aliens, but not Americans? Americans won't stick together on these major issues, so they are an easy target for the corrupt politicians and elite, who like things just the way they are. Consider Joe Bidens, " they were here first statement". Why didin't he just give the finger to the average American citizen?

• And what's the surprise Stan? This is what the left has basically turned Americans into. The massive welfare programs and promises to anyone under the sun, as long as they vote demcrat has created a nation of cry baby dependents. They expect things, they have a "right". Is it any wonder, the central government grows more and more powerfull. Get everyone into the animal farm, that's called "human rights".

• To clarify a little, when people buy shoes like Nike, or any of their slave labor products, when they habituate Wall Mart, and every other place that sells slave labor products, they cannot legitimately be indignant over Wall Street. We need to buy from local producers, and take money out of the corrupt system that buys politicians, who then screw us by not representing us. but rather representing monied interests. Without some sacrifice by the citizens, NOTHING IS GOING TO CHANGE WITH THE 1 PERCENT THAT HOLDS FIFTY PERCENT OF THE WEALTH AND HAVE ALL THE BENEFITS OF THE SYSTEM . The crazy thing about it, is we don't even have to sacrifice that much to make them honest.

• I understand what you are saying Linda, but remember, at some point a person who is playing the game Wall Street has set up, slave labor 14-32 cents an hour in foreign countries, people being timed as to how much work they get out and beaten when they don't meet their quotas, and such things, cannot pretend to be against Wall Streets greed and crimianlity. These people aren't playing by normal rules. They are sending Americans jobs away so they can make a bigger profit and apparently both polticial parties are just fine with it. They are encouraging insourcing as well. I'm always hearing about some nursing shortage to justify importing thousands of people with nursing degrees. There is no nursing shortage. Where I live, a community college has just built a three story modern nursing facility. There are nursing schools across the U.S. and tons of AMERICANS that want to do those jobs. So why the insouricing of nurses. Notice, the main stream government controled news media, never asks thesse politicians why they are voting for these policies. The left(democrats) has no problem with any of it, and if you bring it up, they will accuse you of anti-immigrant feelings. They also allow one million plus people to enter the U.S.yearly, even now,despite the joblessness of millions of America's youths. But don't complain, or the democrats will accuse you of nativism. Yes they will. I don't know yet what the Republicans will accuse you of. These are problems that are never discussed by the phony media and unless Americans start to demand answers to these things, WE ARE GOING DOWN.

• tsk tsk Bobby.   I chatted with a group of 6 Ron Paul supporters there, one is in the "leadership" of the group, tho they will not say they have leaders.

• Thank you, I am going again this evening, after work. 

• Prevaricator.

• Linda, It sounds like your'e a sincere and thoughfull person, and if you are an example,just like crazybaldhead of the majority of people that were there,I say more power to you.

• Having a nice car and clothes, being able to eat out.....that is not the group that is targeted, it us the uber wealthy, the billionaires, the top 400 families who control the wealth in this country,  the politicians and the new "corporate persons" who pay -0- taxes, like GE and B of A.  Personally, I am not against wealth.  If you hate wealth, you will never have it.  There is a saying about "the millionaire next door", a person or family who have assets worth a million dollars.....in retirement funds, property, and savings.   They may live modestly, but they ARE millionaires.  Good for them.  You see some of them supporting the 99%.   Why?   Because their son or daughter just graduated with an MBA from a top tier school and can't find a job!

• Your points are dead on. Limbaugh argued the same way. All of these people are right, it is the best health care system in the world, if your'e rich. Period.

• ........to find the silly and the bizarre. ... It took me a little time to realize, that's part of the authors style. He does this in almost every article he writes. It's a great break from the style of the Feathered Bastard and causes a totally different reaction.

• The author picked the most outrageous and silly out of some 2,000 people and ignored the normal people and signs.  Like last night at Occupy Phoenix, a drunk showed up and made a scene....who do you think the news cameras turned their lenses to....the drunk who was loud, offensive and colorful.   The other 100+ just weren't as interesting.   BTW, the drunk got arrested.  As he should.

• Wow, that's stirring memories. I attended St. Vincent Depaul School in Los Angeles, many moons ago.

• Heh Heh.....the author had an agenda, to find the silly and the bizarre, and ignore the flavor of the group.   I described the group to friends this way....mostly over 40, many senior citizens, handicapped folks, veterans, families, Ron Paul supporters, progressives, all ethnic groups.  A retired judge, a woman working three jobs to support her family, unemployed college graduates seeking employment, lots of folks in trouble with mortgages and not getting action from banks.  The 99% (to coin a phrase) of the  people were well-behaved, respectful of each other, cleaned up after themselves, and took turns to speak.  Yes, I was there.  I did not see, or smell, drugs being used.  Of the hundreds of signs, I only saw one with a mis-spelled word.

• I hear ya..."for profit" healthcare is ridiculous. When Herman Cain talks about how our wonderful healthcare system helped him survive cancer, I can't help but think---what if he had been an unemployed former bus driver when he got cancer? Would he even be alive? Would Bill Clinton's bypass surgery have bankrupted his family if he was just an Arkansas Farmer? Has anyone other than a multi millionaire had access to the battery powered bionic heart in a back pack that currently keeps Cheney from keeling over dead?When wealth = preferential health care, something is truly wrong, and the costs are inflated when people then go in with a chronic condition that has gone un-treated. In our capitalistic health care system, that is truly a "captive market".

• Cut it out man, I'm about to run out of air from laughing too much.  

• And yet there are people on this forum that want Mr. King fired!!! Where the hell else can you get this kind of amusement to break the usual seriousness of these posts? I say give Mr. King a raise. Now!!

• Fire this guy because you disagree with him?!  This could only come from someone that our comrades on the left have influenced for too long.

• Even though you put it roughly, you have a point. In my opinion, it's the Democrat Party and there crazy stranglehold on education, including the many idiotic programs they have stuck "education" with, that has given teaching such a bad name in the minds of so many people. Education in the U.S. K-12 system is really indoctrination. Now it's true for the leftist controled colleges as well. They have decided to take on the task of telling Americans what they must think. Sad, because historically,teaching was a respected profession.

• Most the people complaining about it were downtown doing something about it. What have you done about it middle class white dude?

• Many people have a weakness spelling. Somerset Maughm the great writer, was one of them. You understood him/her, didn't you? You kind of sound like your'e just trying to ignore the issue when you and others bring up spelling.

• Simone, I would seriously think about what Grijalva 11 said, even though it's kind of roughly put. We already have Hate crimes. Are "Thought Crimes" next?

• Umm, Stan, no offense but that wasnt the protest. St Vincent Depaul is on Jackson st, we were on washignton. I'll send you a google maps link

• He is bought and paid for and why there isn't a greater outcry against what the Democrat Party is doing, (Bush on steroids) I must leave to the readers insight. I won't even give people a hint, so obvious should it be.  

• Especially when they disagree with you.

• And you know what, I honestly hope Americans succeed. I often here things like Americans won't work as hard as foreign nationals here illegally and other crap like that. It's nonsense. Every place I've been to in the U.S., I have seen American citizens doing every conceivable kind of work that can be imagined. Do some abuse the social welfare system? Yes. But so do other people here legally or illegally.  The truth is, these evil polticians use the immigration issue, to keep people apart and thus keep control of them to carry out agendas that do nothing at all for Americans but harm them.

• Good points, really much of my thinking, believe it or not.  I seem to keep leaving the impression, falsely, that I'm some kind of raging conservative lunatic. I'm not. I can't get behind a lot of what Republicans espouse. For example, health care. I have had this ongoing argument with a lot of my conservative friends, for probably thirty years now.(giving away my age). I don't mean to stick a feather in my hat, but I told them a long time ago, that the American people, are going to wind up in poorer shape, rich as we are, or then were, than the Canadians, or Europeans. My friends told me, we can't make medicine socialized, because look at what it's done to Europe, Canada, etc.They always said, look at the price of gas in Europe. I replied that the price of gas helps to pay for the free medical care. Then I said, the day will come in the U.S. when we will be paying the same price for gas, AND WE STILL WON'T HAVE THE FREE MEDICAL CARE. Of course some people will say it's still higher in Europe.  Yeah, but Europe has also built a fantastic transportation system, where cares don't have to be relied upon exclusively. We have had that chance over and over, but instead, wasted it on every thing that doesn't beneft Americans. So, I'm no big conservative, but I'm not an internationalist and that is what I believe is wrong with the left. They are concerned about everyones rights in the world, but Americans rights. But that's a whole other subject. 

• We agree on much more than I thought we would when I started posting on your comments. That's kind of what the occupy movement is about. Finding common ground for change, not focusing on differences of opinions. Will people agree on everything? well of course not. But we can all agree (at least most of us) that our current system is broken and the jokers on capital hill are at a complete loss as to what to do about it. Our country is reaching critical mass, and the occupy movement is rising up to say that we're not going home to watch tv and forget about it, we're not gonna go shopping and forget about, more and more people are waking up to how big of a problem this actually is...2008 was nothing compared to where we're headed

• Funny...that's the one point I made when I had a chance to talk in the "mic check" circle. Everyone says more people need to vote, me included, but forget that we vote everyday with our dollars. If you disagree with the corporate takeover of our country, stop buyin' the shit they're trying to sell you. Grocery stores, gas stations, restaraunts, coffee shops---buy local, keep our money in our community. Get the federal government out of our lives, consolidate power at the state level. If people don't like the state government, change it. if feel you can't, move to a state that you agree with. This is what our founding fathers envisioned and so bravely created--a capitalist republic. They also warned of how it would/could be hijacked, and it has been. Everyone there on saturday didn't agree, but it was truly an organic exchange of ideas outside of the red/blue framework that has destroyed our political system. I welcome more of it, and get uptight when its protrayed as stupid or unamerican. Are some of the peolpe that were there uninformed? Of course...most americans haven't critically run through their thought processes on many issues, they just have a knee jerk reaction based on media soundbites. Are people that were there now more informed?I hope so, I truly hope so for our country's sake. Otherwise, the highest bidding lobbyists will maintain control of our country

• No I didn't mean to leave the impression that it's just a few signs that gets my goat. I've watched these kinds of protests, including the many now occuring, and as I said, you've got people showing up in luxury cars, eating McDonalds hamburgers, and wearing designer clothes of one kind or another. But their protesting corporate America. I see.

• Winning? There's no winning in life, really. Have you ever noticed that the guy that cuts you off, and almost gets you into an accident with his fast driving, invariably winds up at the same red light your'e stuck at? Believe it or not, much of my tit for tat, with Mistalee is simply my way of blowing off steam on issues I don't agree with him on. Why do I have to be pigeon holed because of it, as he always does? I simply have a righteous disagreement with him on certain issues, as I do with others, but so many of them invariably say it's because of racism. So is it really me that is desperately trying to be right?

• Fine. But I wonder, how many of those people with the Bovine complaint, own leather shoes, a leather handbag from Tommy Hilfiger,etc.,have eaten at McDonalds rercently, or simply supported any business that abuses cattle? If they have, they are less then useless and highly deluded. Is the Governor a whore? Why? The guy with the art sign complaining about lack of funding. Why? None of the great artists were ever funded by the state. They appealed to the public, some rich, some not, by showing them a thing of value, of beauty, worthy of attention and money from them. But oh, we can't do that in the instant gratification society, where I must have what I want now, even if I have to force people to give it to me unwillingly,etc. If the American public is to be taken seriously, all I'm saying is, they have to do a better job in making their case.

• So, Bobby, you're basing your opinion of the entire group of over 3,000 people on the 9 pictures above?  I bet you went off on a tirade whenever the tea party protests were boiled down to a few mis-spelled protest signs. You really don't get it, and I doubt you ever will. You're too focused on winning your eternal post /repost battle with mistalee

• You and as of now, 13 other people seem to not see the irony in Mr. Kings comments below the pictures above. It's lost on you. My guess is, only my guess understand, that how can anyone take these people seriously on having the basic intelligence to even understand the mess we are in, when they can hardly express themselves in an intelligent manner?

• " poor young leftist schills..." please, you really shouldn't post if you have no knowledge beyond what you see on your computer monitor or hear on your talk radio shows.. Bobby, if you got out from behind your keyboard and actually went downtown you would have heard the voices of young and old, democrats, republicans and libertarians, fed up with a political system that gives a greater voice to corporate money over the voice of the people. Yes, we know that Obama took $47 mil from wall street interests in his 08 campaign, we know that he hired wall street insiders to "fix" the problem, we know that wars are fought for a profit, not for a principle, we know that capitalism is broken when our tax dollars are used to prop up banks controlled by billionaires. thats not capitalism, our republic has been hijacked by the wealthy, and as long as they can keep the people arguing about who's party is at fault, then the status quo will prevail. You'd best start thinking outside of your left/right characterizations, they show how truly uninformed you are.

• Again, when these same concerns were voiced by hundreds of thousands of people much earlier in the authentic Tea Party Meetings, you were down on them, and the Coroporate controled media simply ignored them, yet are giving these confused folks all the air time they want. Why is that, do you imagine? Obviously, because they represent no threat whatever to them. Duh......

• Gee, strange that you would be so enthusiastic about the people you met there and their concerns, etc. when those same concerns have been voiced at the Tea Party Meetings, that you just denigrated. Kind of confused, aren't we?

• The poor young leftist shills. They don't even know what they're protesting. No where do I see them complaining that the "Party of Change", and their leader, has increased the Middle East conflicts, and the further bankrupting of the U.S. , that they continue to allow outsourcing but act as if its exclusively a Republican project, or that they have problems getting jobs because the "party of change", still allows aprroximately one-hundred fifty thousand people a month to come to the U.S. Clueless and as along as they can protest, happy about it.

• I think I'm entitled to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. And you're entitled to your opinion. Turns out youranalogysucks

• Mr King--I was there all afternoon and into the evening at MT Hance. Had I not been, I would have read your blurb and thought, hmm, a bunch of nutjobs. Instead, I hung out, talked with people, and was inspired by how many normal valley residents took the time to show up and voice support. Your cynical take on the demographics of the crowd on Saturday is so far from accurate that it makes me really wonder what your agenda is...were you given wedgies and ridiculed by protesters in your youth? Or are you just too lazy to get beyond the surface of a complicated group such as this? Troubles me that a magazine I've read for 15 years gives a voice to such a cynical asshole

• His bad reaction is totally understandable, and all you commentors confusion is not. The extreme Left is threatened by this unifying movement just as the extreme Right is; they are both scared shitless of mainstream/moderate America, which just wants legitimate gov, basic services, and a level playing field. The Repub establishment successfully hijacked the Tea Party (started by libertarian/anti-Federal Reserve Ron Paul), but the OWS organizers learned from that and are successfully resisting the attempt by the extreme Left to co-opt it.

• Lol that's so true. I checked out this article though I'm fairly disgusted with the New Times as of late simply because OWS has been touted as a "liberal" movement, though that's not the whole of it, so I figured these guys would be backing it up 100%. I expected extreme bias from the NT, but not in the direction this guy went. Lol I'm not sure New Times have ever done any non-biased FACT reporting, but if they have, it hasn't been for a LONG LONG time.

•  A smarmy half a$$ed commentary is the best analysis and reporting you could come up with? Whose hand is up your sock puppet today?   It will be interesting to see the light bulbs go off above critics heads when they lose their jobs because of budget cuts and layoffs at their place of employment that are enacted solely to retain the excess profit margins for their shareholders.  Rather than accept that growth is not infinite in a limited system, the addiction of profit causes the company to be unable to accept a return to equilibrium.  It tries to maintain profit growth by cutting off parts of itself.. then wonders what all the fuss is about.   What is happening is like a removing roots from a tree so the leaves can keep more water for themselves.  Clearly that only works up to a certain point until the tree falls over.

• Call New Times 602 271 0040 to complain about the coverage! I just did and I was being ridiculed. I asked for their official position on the movement and they wouldn't give one though they made it clear http://www.facebook.com/groups/209274665809545/.

• I find it oddly amusing that whenever Valley Fever vomits out its usual pile of one-sided, agenda-driven garbage, most commenters seem to like it just fine (see any post about Arpaio, Brewer, GOP politicians, etc.) But when this same heavily-biased approach results in a post about something that doesn't jibe with the views of the whinycommentariat, VF gets accused of poor journalism. It's not journalism - it's New Times! They don't care about both sides of the story. They write what they write to instigate commenters.

• LMAO  your right..... I forgot but I thought they had a hard copy "newspaper" too :))

• This article is a biased joke. 

• All Illegal aliens should be allowed by Obwama to apply for work permits but only while they are outside the United States in their home countries.   This type of program (guest workers) has worked very well for many years in economically successful places such as Switzerland, Singapore to name a few. Once their work visa expires they must immediately leave the country. If the females become prgnant, they are immediately returned to their home country. commit any violation of ANY law (even "J" walking)  and they are deported. If they attempt to re-enter the US illegaly, they are automatically placed on a list of permanently banned from entry into the US. Are you with us? Just enforce the Immigration Laws and treat all people who want to enter the US fairly. Don't show preference to those that entered illegally. Justice for all?

• Wow. What a condescending, POS article. If anyone is interested in reading real journalism: http://www.salon.com/2011/10/17/what_are_those_ows_people_so_angry_about/ " These protests at least reflect the possibility, the template, for that to happen. And anyone expressing confusion about why these protests are erupting or what the “message” is is almost certainly someone invested in keeping things exactly the way they are."

• Might I suggest, should anyone be interested and willing to make the inquiries, that a compelling story waiting to be uncovered, might unravel the web of deceit and misinformation involved in the "negotiations" between the citizens with the occupation; the city officials; the Mayor and the police. Exactly how much did the city spend to prevent these people from spending the night in the park?

• Mr King has graciously accepted an offer at the New Times after apparently having not made it through the interview process at the Enquirer or the Star.

• Me either. I disavowe all contact with any dirty liberal. I have switched to the Republican Party over this.

• If this comment section full of rage is any indication of the Occupy movement, then I honestly want no part of it. You people are acting like a bunch of whiny 12-year-olds.

• Oh by the way, after I bone your whores, I sell them them to negroids, so you'll be proud of them.

• OH and your wife? She deep throats my bone every day.

• Every bitch you know is a whore. Your daughters, you sisters, your mother, your aunties, your grandmothers, your friends, I've boned them all.

• I don't have "whores" in my life. You, OTOH, obviously have to pay for your pussy. Must suck to be you.

• I like teachers. I hate the teachers union.

• Life isn't fair and no one is entitled to shit. Get over it handout boy.

• I know. You are part of the 1% fag. I'll let you service me at the glory hole later.

• I'm glad I'm not part of the 99%, they're a bunch of whiny fags.

• I would never click one of your virus infected links. By the way, I boned every whore in your life. Know that.

• Sure. You can pay right here - https://www.wepay.com/donate/41696?utm_campaign=donations&utm_medium=link&utm_source=facebook&ref_uid=1478878

• You are referring to "the bum on the plush." http://unionsong.com/u099.html

• I loved this article. Very honest. Is there anyway I can pay for this article? I could use paypal.

• Immigrants one and all , whether they follow the proper immigration process or not, should all line up in single-file to publicly violate your rectum. It would be both fair and just to a retarded spammer like you who cannot restrain his impulse to post irrelevant crap about immigration at each and every turn.

• This article sux the schwettyballz, but in all fairness, not everyone can write, period, let alone write professionally.

• I like the NewTimes.  Matter of fact, I love it.  Why?  Because it is free, I can grab as many copies as I need so I can pick up my dogs poop and wrap it in the free paper.  Thank you NewTimes.  Oh, I almost forgot - this article sucks, like your rag.

• Yes, amongst other things people are entitled to not be defrauded by unscrupulous lenders, and to not be penalized for doing right by their employees. What a clueless fuckwit you are!

• I enjoyed the article. Very informative. I think it is a very good well rounded description of the people there. Well Done! Promote!

• I don't like this article. And I'm not particularly enamored with the protestors that were there either, I just totally see the spin here. Not one photo of the Vietnam vets, or the reasonable people. You're just showing the circus that shows up at every protest. Just the smugness of your tone is overpowering, I want to strike you. There were awesome, clever signs. I saw "Things Could Be More Reasonable."Being mad at Wall Street is largely symbolic, it's symptomatic of a system that doesn't work for the masses when the top 1% are making the amount of money that they are.

• James King has chosen to focus on only a few of the weirdest signs at yesterdays protest, and his story is a complete mischaracterization of the event.  For many years, the New Times could be counted on to provide fair and unbiased reporting on political events.  This hit piece by Mr. King is a huge step backwards for the paper.  Shame on the New Times for printing such drivel.

• All of them blaming others for their woes, their sense of entitlement bruised beyond repair...

• I don't know. who convinced them?

• After the media left, the protesters were marched to a park about 3 miles from downtown, where they were surrounded until midnight, when the remaining 46 protesters were arrested for trespassing on the park, including one minor, who also faces criminal trespassing charges, and all but the minor are being held without bail.  Guess who convinced the people to go to the park WITH A POLICE ESCORT...

• They don't use ink to write on the internet. Shocking, I know.

• Ha, Ha, you don't know a dam thing about me. You must not have much of a life if you wast it posting B S about someone you don't even know. What makes you think I'm ticked off. I was having fun. Just like I'm having fun thinking what a complete moron you must be sisterk. If I weren't a disabled combat veteran who has a hard time walking perhaps I would be down there. I mean after all the the chicken shit chicken hawk politicians are talking about screwing me out of part of my retirement pay and benefits that I worked my ass off and actually put my life on the line to earn. So sisterk, you lemming shit-for-brains (see I can write those words too), Why don't you crawl back into that dark dank cave that you call your life.

• This is the most piss poor, obviously biased story about OccupyPhoenix that I have read to this day. I agree, King should be ashamed. I expected better from the Phoenix New Times, of all places. Extremely disappointed..

• Take King off this story.  He is incapable of objectively covering it.  The New Times should be ashamed.

• what about "handsome black guys," is that racist too? (I'm not even going to ask about "niggardly black guys" your head might explode)

• how is that three word phrase racist?

• And "militant black guys"?? Seriously?? GTFO racist.

• I'm surprised that New Times, a publication with a reputation for being liberal and taking on the more greedy and wacko of the conservative movement (like Arpaio) would choose to publish a piece like this. James King obviously sought out the few bad apples of the bunch and chose to ignore the protesters with very coherent and focused messages, which Channel 3 and 15 actually did (See attached links). I for one feel this article makes Mr. King and the New Times staff to look extremely childish.  http://www.abc15.com/dpp/news/region_phoenix_metro/central_phoenix/video%3A-stories-from-%27occupy-phoenix%27 http://www.azfamily.com/news/Photos-Occupy-Phoenix--131947828.html

• You like to ridicule the products of our notoriously for decades failing school system?

• "This sign would be better if my art funding hadn't been cut!"  Agent Provacateur? Is art really as important as healthcare, food stamps and keeping a roof over one's head?

• The slavish obedience displayed by all spectrum of media should be an eye opener for some.

• This is the BEST satirical piece i have ever read. you check out the pick I got of a guy with a sign that read, "This must be a sign" I lol'ed so hard. also, you are really good at spelling. Freaking protesters, how dare they be pissed off without using spell check first. Please tell me you have more of this stuff.

• "I remember some of the anti-war demonstrations I participated in (after doing 2 tours in Vietnam) and the "Message" appeared to be somewhat fractured then too by the different types of people in attendance and we brought an earlier end to the war and helped bring down a corrupt president.

• yeah this article definitely comes from a weird place, and parrots the same paper thin criticisms of the Occupy wherever movement, namely that there is no "plan" for anything. the motivations behind Occupy Wall Street have been abundandtly clear since day 1, despite media hand wringing and obfuscation: the lack of a voice for working and middle class people in government, and the excessive and destructive influence of corporate money/power in government policy. the other demonstrations are a show of solidarity expressing the same sentiments.the fact that they're not saying "we need to do a, b, and c to fix the problem"doesn't discount what they're pissed about, and seems to me like grasping at straws when used as a knock against them (ditto for playing the pompous role of sign spell-checker). this is a protest not a debate, and the demands are to change the conditions mentioned above.

• The above was written in response to a post by Mikey saying all the people were stoners, bums and panhandlers. for some reason it appears as a seperate post.

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