Herman Cain Was Joking About Electrified Border Fence...Err, He Might Be Serious...Err, He Doesn't Want to Offend Anyone

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James King
Presidential candidate Herman Cain might have been joking about building an electrified fence at the U.S. Mexico border -- we're still not sure.
Presidential candidate Herman Cain met with Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio this afternoon, but he was late to the meeting because of an unknown security threat.

"We received some information that caused us to improve our security on the way over here, and I would like to leave it at that," Cain told reporters when he arrived at Arpaio's downtown Phoenix office...40 minutes late. "When you become a top-tier candidate, a lot of nuts come out of the closet."

Once Cain arrived, however, it didn't take long before he was asked about a controversial "joke" he recently made about installing a 20-foot-tall electrified fence along the U.S./Mexico border to keep immigrants from entering the country illegally.

Halfway through the question about the electric fence, Cain butted in with "it was a joke!"

"Let me first say it was a joke, and some people don't think that it was a good joke, and it's probably not a joke that you're supposed to make if you're a presidential candidate," Cain continued. "I apologize if it offended anyone. Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea culpa."

Only, it might not be a joke, he later said, before finally saying he just doesn't want to offend anyone.

"I don't like to offend anyone...however, I don't apologize for using a combination of a fence. And it might be electrified -- I'm not walking away from that," Cain backtracked. "I just don't want to offend anybody. It was a joke to the extent in the context of the views of that speech, but in terms of what we need to do, I fully intend to do so because I'm more sensitive to our citizens being hurt."

Cain spoke at length about his campaign during the roughly 30 minutes he spent with Phoenix's fourth estate, and explained his immigration plan as America's self-proclaimed "toughest sheriff" apparently felt a little left out.

"Why are they going after you? What about me? We're both unorthodox, right," Arpaio butted in during Cain's press conference. "I have illegal immigrants in the hot tents. I have them on chain-gangs, why are you concerned with what he said?"

It's not a "who treats immigrants the shittiest" contest, Joe.

Cain's immigration plan calls for several policy changes, but starts with securing the border with a real fence (which may or may not be electrified), technology, and the possibility of "boots on the ground" in some of the more dangerous parts of the border.

"America is a nation of wide open doors," Cain says. "Come through the front door. I want to make sure people are encouraged to come through the front door, but at the same time, we're gonna shut the back door and the side door."

As for the estimated 50-percent of illegal immigrants who are in the U.S. on expired work visas, Cain says "there's no excuse for someone's visa to expire and we not have a system -- with all the technology available -- to knock on their door and say 'time to go home.'"

The point of Cain's visit with Arpaio, however, wasn't to defend comments about a potentially lethal border fence, it was to wet his lips and plant one on the sheriff's booty with the hopes that he'll endorse his presidential campaign.

When asked why he sought Arpaio's blessing, Cain responded with the following:

"First of all, Sheriff Joe has very similar qualities that I have....neither one of us have gone to political correctness school, and I still don't plan to go to political correctness school."

Apparently not.

Cain is one of four presidential candidates that Arpaio claims are begging for his political nod. Minnesota Congresswoman Michele Bachmann met with the sheriff last month to grovel for his approval, and, according to Arpaio, Texas Governor Rick Perry and former Massachusettes Governor Mitt Romney have each called him asking for his tip of the cap.

Arpaio, however, tells New Times he hasn't yet made up his mind about whom he'll endorse.

"What's the rush," he grumbles.

Of course there's no rush for Arpaio -- he's lovin' it; all the illegal immigrant roundups in the world can't get the sheriff this much attention.
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RetWOarmy
RetWOarmy

I am voting for Herman! What is wrong with legal emigration? Ok, just wait 10 more years to fix it and then see how overpopulation in the US will affect your children, not to mention your grandchildren. Shortsighted and hostile comments also just make things worse and I am sick of reading them.

Lolas
Lolas

I am NOT A FORMER REPUBLICAN, I AM A REPUBLICAN BUT I WILL NOT VOTE FOR CAIN. EVER!!!!!!     jamás

Lance
Lance

To anyone NOT wanting a fence, take a look at the border security at any other country. Most of them are the "shoot first" type of defense. Anyone know what the fence between Mexico and Guatemala looks like?

FormerRepublican
FormerRepublican

Need to clarify. This former Republican will NOT vote for any candidate who supports execution by the state of the innocent, will NOT support border fence being electrified (also kills birds and wildlife) will NOT support abuse of power by elitist, arrogant and narcissist candidates who have destroyed the America we once knew.

Anon
Anon

Governor Perry and those in control of the GOP: Murder by the state is unacceptable.

Lolas
Lolas

STOP using Perry's name in WRONG FACTS... 

FormerRepublican
FormerRepublican

Cain, Bachman and other uninformed GOP candidates weren't watching yesterday's testimony of Sheriff Arpaio at the Arizona Supreme Court Disciplinary hearing / abuse of power and possible disbarment of former Maricopa County Attorney Andrew Thomas and his Deputy County Attorney's Lisa Aubuchon and Rachel Alexander -- bogus RICO charges against 16 defendants and Arpaio/Hendershott's part in abuse of power.  We will NOT vote for any of these GOP candidates who support abuse of power, electrifying border fences and executing the innocent - "murder by the state", the elite and powerful!

Tuchico
Tuchico

Cain wants to be president so he can open a KFC restaurant near the White House and plant watermelons on the front lawn.

Sarah J.
Sarah J.

Cain would have felt right at home in East Germany when they began work on the Berlin wall. I bet he'd love manning a machine gun tower shouting out to people trying to cross over.

"Nein! Nein! Nein!"

AmusedObserver
AmusedObserver

My, my, all the name calling.  Lacking any logical argument, all the liberals can do is call names.  Tch, tch.

Kurt
Kurt

"I apologize if I offended anyone."

The six word phrase that needs to be expunged from American English, especially for pols. Either apologize or stand by it fully. This isn't an either/or option.

Perplexed
Perplexed

I have no problem with an electrified fence if it keeps illegals from breaking our laws.  Put a sign on it that they can read and if they foolishly ignore that sign then they are responsible for their actions.  We are allowing the power of native Americans to be dilluted by illegals.   

Ematac
Ematac

Mr. Cain, don't back off, whats the point of spending billions on a fence that any clown can climb and spread havoc in the US?  Leave it to the liberals (David "howdy doody" Gregory) to question the electrification vs the fact that there are thousands of illeagles crawling over the useless fences that currently exist. The joke was "it will kill you", I guess if you write it only in english, that would be pretty harsh.

Amen Baby
Amen Baby

92 percent of America agree with Cain ....most Republican, most Independents and more than half of Democrats

It's time we get serious about getting rid of these foreign economic invaders.

Legal immigration ONLY,  just like ALL other countries in the world

Lolas
Lolas

I AM A REPUBLICAN AND I WILL NOT VOTE FOR HERMAN CAIN

Dumoudan
Dumoudan

October 17, 2011:SAN ANTONIO (Reuters) - Texas law enforcement officials say several Mexican drug cartels are luring youngsters as young as 11 to work in their smuggling operations.Steven McCraw, director of the Texas Department of Public Safety, told Reuters the drug gangs have a chilling name for the young Texans lured into their operations.They call them 'the expendables,'" he said.

jacaranda
jacaranda

It's horrendous that the federal government posted those big signs out along I-8 and in some of the national parks, warning U.S. citizens not to travel in the area because of the danger of encountering illegal aliens.  Something needs to be done to keep illegals from entering our country and if it takes an electrified border fence, so be it. 

usajingoist
usajingoist

Honestly, how could MItt or Perry earn his endorsement when they both support immigration policies that are completely the opposite?  Bachmann is polling lower than Hunstman, so really, this is Cain's to lose. 

Marysson
Marysson

the reporter curses in the story ( in quotes) but does report who they are quoting...i think it is the reporter making a non-journalistic editorial filthy word comment. 

you are not a reporter.  you are a joke.

SantiagoJJJr
SantiagoJJJr

Herman Cain Doubles Down On Electrifying Immigrants! (10/17/11)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...

EmeraldAl
EmeraldAl

Illegal immigrants. Leave your house open with a sign out telling everyone it's open. Let me know how that goes for you. Or in your case, your Ozark Trail tent.

shadeaux14
shadeaux14

If he becomes President, we'll have to change the name "White House" to "Uncle Tom's Cabin"

Concerned Citizen/Taxpayer
Concerned Citizen/Taxpayer

Tomorrow should be interesting. We've waited years for all these corrupt officials to be hauled into court and exposed for who they are and the way they have been allowed to operate with NO accountability.  The thousands of lives they have destroyed is beyond belief in a civilized society. They are a disgrace to law enforcement and the justice system of America.

Gerry_C
Gerry_C

Beyond Stapley, Donahoe, and others, there are numerous cases of people that were railroaded.  Some will never be known because they just had to deal with the adverse consequences because they could not afford to defend themselves against out of control prosecutors.  Others such as in the Matt Bandy case were able to survive the debacle by exhausting available family resources to defend against charges for crimes that never even happened.  The trail is long and littered with debris from the Andrew Thomas reign.

We need honesty and integrity first, then aggressive prosecution from our County Attorney.  When honesty and integrity take a back seat to aggressive prosecution, we are all at risk.

shadeaux14
shadeaux14

I'm hoping that, due to the testimony regarding the corruption of the MCSO, the feds will be embarrassed into taking action.

Gerry_C
Gerry_C

I hope someone reminds Ole Saggy Balls to keep his nutsack close by tomorrow during his disciplinary hearing testimony.  Don't want anybody to trip over his nutsack similar to what happened when Henderbulk hurt his knee a while back.

Someone mentioned the state fair.  That is a fun time and a good place to go.  If you think your family is dysfunctional, the fair should make you feel quite a bit better.  If you think our Maricopa County politicians are dysfunctional, the state fair will do nothing to comfort those feelings.

Cabezadesumo
Cabezadesumo

This guy sure jokes a lot,  the State fair does brings a lot of clowns to Arizona. The current and next  President Obama has nothing to worry about these Republican idiots.

Anon
Anon

The GOP candidates are so weak it's disturbing. Seeking a county sheriff's support truly shows how weak they are. It's all so disgusting.

Follower_of_the_ONE
Follower_of_the_ONE

Hey folks, I don't think Herman was joking about the electric fence... Idonthaveallofthefacts but... I hear Godfather's Pizza is planning a new border state menu item... Fence Fried Mexican Pizzas!  I heard they were to die for... only 9-9-9! 

FormerRepublican
FormerRepublican

Electrifying the border fence is like yelling "fire" in a crowded theater. Cain is no longer witty but trying to outdo Texas Gov. Perry in executing the innocent. If this is the best the GOP has they're in trouble. Truly chilling hypocrites.

Hock
Hock

I'm glad the Republicans are doing everything possible to assure Obama gets reelected.

EmeraldAl
EmeraldAl

It almost matches Obama doing everything possible not to get reelected.

Follower_of_the_ONE
Follower_of_the_ONE

Yeah and it's so damned entertaining!  I usually put an episode of "Planet of the Apes" in the DVD, I have a real monkey shine fetish, but the debates started I see a lot more chimps and they are far less functional.  The part that really has me rolling on the floor is when the feces starts flying... little verbal turds all about the place, on the walls, ceiling and floor!  No there is nothing as entertaining as feces throwing chimps, I always wondered who the winner was the one covered with the most feces or the least? 

Coz
Coz

They sure do, and the meeting was held at Arpaio's office with the 2 biggest nuts of them all doing the press conference.

>>"When you become a top-tier candidate, a lot of nuts come out of the closet."

Follower_of_the_ONE
Follower_of_the_ONE

Probably at least one real dick in front of this pair of of nuts too... and you probably don't have to look too far to find an asshole in the background, at least not in this picture.  Sorry Coz, I know it was crass but it was the first thing that came to mind... iterating the same often gets me in trouble ... but what the hell.

Noone
Noone

Pizzanomics...

Iegal y que?
Iegal y que?

he was pulled over by arpaio's minions and checked for legal status...

Tommy Collins
Tommy Collins

Why would any self respecting presidential candidate stand in front of a background agrandizing the county sheriff?

teknik1200
teknik1200

because they are crooked and they like the fact that ol' Joe prosecutes people for purely political reasons.

while this is appalling to most people, it's considered a good trait to the GOP.

mikefrombisbee
mikefrombisbee

They have to debase themselves to get that turd bug's blessing? That's the best the Republican party has to offer the country? Bachmann? Cain? Perry?

Pitiful...

FormerRepublican
FormerRepublican

Tommy, We were wondering the same thing. Will arpaio be ready for the Arizona Supreme Court disciplinary hearing for former Maricopa County Attorney Andrew Thomas, DCA Lisa Aubuchon and DCA Rachel Alexander, all facing possible disbarment. After hearing "big-man" Hendershott's testimony in a barely audible "litte-man's" voice, we hope the sheriff will speak loud and clear. 

Follower_of_the_ONE
Follower_of_the_ONE

Well voice or not... he certainly shouldn't feel "left out' during his upcoming appearance.  The way the attorney circled Hendershott for the kill was awesome, And with the presiding judge twisting his nads from time to time only added flame to his sizzling kiester.  I watched the entire session, 5 plus hours.   The best preparation for Arpiao... wear your pink underwear (and hope it's magic), pack your hearing aid, cup and KY Jelly and be prepared cowboy!

mikefrombisbee
mikefrombisbee

That's about as funny as a joke about lynching...sucking up to the goobers...Mr Cain, you should stick to making crappy pizza.

Gizzard
Gizzard

I can see it now...Cain stuck on the electrical fence with Arpaio looking on. Anyone for beef jerky?

Ross
Ross

Daddy with Mammy

RetiredArmy
RetiredArmy

"When you become a top-tier candidate, a lot of nuts come out of the closet."

Hay Herman, those are your supporters.

Amen Baby
Amen Baby

Sorry but no.

Stop being a racist, you liberal pig

RetiredArmy
RetiredArmy

Sorry but no.

I would have to join the Republican party to be a racist liberal pig.

Kurt
Kurt

It helps to add "/satire" after such asinine, non sequitur comments.

crazybaldhead
crazybaldhead

no kidding. don't throw condescending rhetoric at your base Herman. The closeted nuts need a candidate too

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