Arizona Sheriffs Call for Independent Investigation of "Fast and Furious" Gunwalking Scandal

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Image: Cochise County Sheriff's Office
Cochise County Sheriff Larry Dever was among 10 Arizona sheriffs calling for an independent investigation into the ATF's Fast and Furious scandal.


Ten Arizona sheriffs -- five Democrat, five Republican -- gathered at the Arizona State Capitol on Friday to call for an independent investigation into the "Fast and Furious" gunwalking scandal.

The sheriffs held a news conference in front of the Arizona Peace Officers Memorial, decrying the "bloodshed" caused by the U.S. Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms bureau's poorly conceived operation.

"We're down there busting our butts every day trying to keep the American public safe," said Cochise County Larry Dever, as quoted by the Associated Press. "We are here to help defend America, whether it's beyond the border or any place north where the tentacles of these cartels reach into our communities across this nation every single day. And for our own government to be complicit in helping them conduct that business is offensive to us."

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Eric Holder, U.S. Attorney General

The sheriffs insisted that a special counsel be immediately appointed "to fairly investigate Attorney General Eric Holder and the Department of Justice," according to a written statement from the Pinal County Sheriff's Office.

Sheriffs taking part in the badged protest included:

Pinal Sheriff Paul Babeu, Cochise Sheriff Larry Dever, Greenlee Sheriff Steve Tucker, Graham Sheriff PJ Alred, LaPaz Sheriff Don Lowrey, Mohave Sheriff Tom Sheahan, Coconino Sheriff Bill Pribil, Yavapai Sheriff Scott Mascher, Navajo Sheriff KC Clark and Apache Sheriff Joe Dedman.

Maricopa Sheriff Joe Arpaio apparently wasn't invited -- or maybe he was invited, but forgot he was invited. Either way, he didn't show up on Friday.

Babeu, in his news release, says the sheriffs "are demanding the truth from U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder and believe that those responsible should be held criminally accountable for allowing 2,000 guns including assault weapons and 50 caliber rifles to be purchased on U.S. Soil and then turned over to the drug cartels of Mexico."

Deputies and citizens alike may end up facing "the barrel of a gun that was placed in the hands of criminals" by the ATF and Holder. Fifteen-hundred guns remain unaccounted for -- that's a lot of firepower in the hands of thugs.

The ATF plan had been to let suspected cartel members buy the guns, then track the suspects in hopes of catching crime bosses. For some crazy reason, the ATF skimped on the part where it was supposed to track the criminals. Agents complained that their bosses were to blame.

After Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry was shot dead by a Mexican national in December, two of the Fast and Furious guns was found at the crime scene. More "walked" guns have been found at crime scenes in Phoenix, Glendale and in other states.

ATF staff has been shuffled around in the aftermath of the scandal, and Arizona U.S. Attorney Dennis Burke lost his job over it. (As New Times revealed this week, Burke's luck really ran out in August -- not only did he have to resign, but weeks earlier he'd been involved in an accident that nearly killed a pedestrian.)

"I'm outraged that our own federal government has betrayed local law enforcement by arming violent foreign criminals and it now appears evident that Attorney General Holder may have lied under oath," Navajo County Sheriff KC Clark said in a written statement.

Holder, meanwhile, said today in a letter to Congress that he knew nothing about the tactics being used in Fast and Furious.

From the CBS News article:


Holder says that his testimony to Congress, stating he first heard of Fast and Furious earlier this year, "was truthful and accurate... I have no recollection of knowing about Fast and Furious prior to the public controversy about it."


With pressure from Arizona sheriffs, other law enforcement officials and the American public, an investigation may yet prove whether Holder's telling the truth or not.


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Babeu
Babeu

Paul you are so far out of your mind to demand the truth of Holder when you cannot even tell the truth about yourself. We all know you hate the President because you got kicked out of the military, not for being gay, but for not being able to adhere to the  military code of coduct. You were a disgrace to the military. You were never in combat as you state to everyone. Why don't you tell everyone who was the male student at the Desisto program when you where the Excutive Director, that you took home to live with you when you were running for Mayor. Everyone told you it was not right and it was against the law, but your response was you were in love with him. It is your sickness that still continues in AZ. Tell everyone how the School was shut down because of the abusive tactics that were used by you. .And lets not forget about all the money you stole.  Why don't you tell everyone how you hired Grant Woods to try to shut me up concerning all the family secrets about the brothers raping all your sisters. .Why don't you tell everyone how you have told my sisters in AZ not to talk to me because you are afraid of the truth getting out. Why don't you tell everyone how you had my father death threat me about your sick lifestyle and all the money you took from your Alzheimers mother who's name is in Bankruptcy. I could go on and on but you are so sick to write about. All I know Paul is you have no right demanding the truth from Holder when you have all these hidden secrets and you use people  to do your dirty work. It will catch up to you Paul, because I have just scratched the surface. I have names and evidence to support all this. Paul you are the fool for lying about me. . Tell dad, he may not care that his father raped me and my two sisters starting at the age of 4 and he is protecting Shaun and you and the rest of the brothers. But I will not stop until I expose you all. Tell our brother Peter, who you invited to St. Louis, that he will be accountable for raping my two sisters and neice when he was over 20. Shame on you Paul. You are not a protector, just a damn idiot who needs to go to jail. Lucy Babeu 

Anon
Anon

It's time to study history (which they don't want taught in Arizona's schools)...."Some History Behind ATF “Fast and Furious” Gunwalker Scandal | The Truth About Guns

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.c...

Wake up Arizona!
Wake up Arizona!

A message to the Sheriffs:  Clean up the corruption in your own backyards,  that is turning Arizona into a police state and prison state! You have ALL the money, the guns and the power and have NO room to complain. You seize assets with reckless abandon with no accountability and the list goes on. What are you doing with the $27,000,000 Federal Stimulus $$'s given to the Arizona Criminal Justice Commission -- made up of only law enforcement and prosecutors?  Where is the oversight and accountability for the gun sellers / shows in Arizona? Go after that!

Wake up Arizona!
Wake up Arizona!

A message to the Sheriff's -- clean up the corruption in your own backyard that is turning Arizona into a police state and prison state! You all have the money, the guns and the power and have NO room to complain. What are you doing with the $27,000,000 Federal Stimulus $$'s given to the Arizona Criminal Justice Commission -- made up of only law enforcement and prosecutors?  Where is the oversight and accountability for the gun sellers / shows in Arizona? Go after that!

Tommy Collins
Tommy Collins

This issue really is a mixed bag. Yes, Fast and Furious is likely a failed program and should never be repeated. I felt badly when my truck was broken into and an off-duty gun was stolen. I certainly never wanted to hear that it had been used in a violent crime.

That said, however, I don't see the value in ten county sheriffs in Arizona trying to make a lot of noise about it. I think nine of them were duped by the Bald Bunion of MCSO, who used them to get himself even more press. Somewhat like the failed effort of russell pearce to have Olivia run against him to draw off votes from Lewis.

So far we've had Mrs. Brewer, the MCSO shurf, the PCSO shurf, russell pearce, and several other local yokels thinking they might have some influence on Mr. Obama, who I don't really care for, by the way.

It seems Mr. Obama doesn't care for their influence and he likely can't remember any of their names without prompting.

Honestly, Sheriffs, if you really want to send a message you will have to travel to D.C. and meet in person with Mr. Obama. Have your hero, the MCSO shurf, make an appointment for you.

Annie Oakley
Annie Oakley

So all those guns sold at unregulated gun shows all around the West that end up in Mexico are just part of the free market system.

Willow St. Poulet-Faucon
Willow St. Poulet-Faucon

Babeu is a two-bit rent boy for the NRA, but they'd better be careful they don't catch a disease.  He's had a paranoid obsession w/ Obama & Holder since day one, & has spent months telling anyone who'll listen -- every moribund Republican women's club & black-helicopter-sighting, lunatic-fringe radio interviewer in the former Confederacy -- that "those people" (w/ the aid of the dedicated federal law enforcement officers he also wants to ruin) are not only guilty of capital crimes (he demands punishment to the limit of the law), but plotted Fast & Furious with the goal of causing mass slaughter in Mexico, all to make it possible to slightly tighten reporting requirements for multiple gun sales here in the US.  (Script available from Wayne LaPierre.)  Oh, & that the President has for most of his Administration been personally, obsessively orchestrating a plot against Babeu himself.  (He should worry less about Obama & more about the real cops in the building who know a con man when they see one, & have had enough his nonsense.)  And if you think he's got sound evidence for any of this, you may need a psychiatrist, too.  

Bad genes & the closet will be the end of Babeu.  They've left him unable to control his rages or to think straight, & obsessed w/ exposing other people's secrets, real or (mostly) imagined.  He's got a pathetic, decades-long history of accusing more accomplished people of covering up some terrible secret; & he'll say whatever it takes to relieve the terror of knowing that his own lifetime of covering up is coming unravelled.  But the toothpaste is well & truly out of the tube.  So now he fantasizes that it's in his hands to bring down the government, & that somehow that'll save him from his own abject, sick past.  It isn't, & it won't.It's a damning commentary on the climate in Arizona that in the last 18 months a mentally disordered man has become one of its leading political figures.  Too many of us mistook his symptomatology for vision.  It's not too early to begin working on an explanation of why we fell for this back-alley hustler.

Ppater11
Ppater11

Considering Ruby Ridge, Waco and Fast and Furious it would seem to be time to dismantle the ATF.

Guest
Guest

Not to underestimate the seriousness of Holder's lies and not to be off topic but hey Babeu - how is Dan Loveless, the 2x murderer working out as your community involvement officer????  And Devers -- nice that you stuffed the Krentz murder in a drawer -- Navajo and Apache Counties?   What a joke. Amazing how corruption bring you all together  - corrupt birds of a feather 

Jason
Jason

If Holder is fired or resigns, who is going to lead the MCSO shurf/Candy Andy and associates investigation into abuse of power?

Holder, to date, has been the only person with balls enough to actually go after the Senile Spinmaster and his mentally unstable sidekick. However, that does NOT excuse his offices' role in Operation Fast & Furious.

I think Shurf Paul Buffoon should do us all a favor and actually try to focus on being a corrupt shurf in Pinal County...

Pocopogo
Pocopogo

At least the article shows Dever, a real cop, instead of the media darling Babeu, who hasn't done any police work since he had his POST academy. But then again, he was first in his class.

Maybe if Obama called Babeu and invited him into the White House for a beer, this would all be settled.

BostankyKanky
BostankyKanky

You have to wonder, is Holder protecting Obama? Was Obama the one who came up with this crazy scheme? How much did Obama know?

BostankyKanky
BostankyKanky

Eric Holder should be investigated and held accountable for his actions.

Walter Concrete
Walter Concrete

They aren't going to investigate anything.  It's a federally corrupt action that's been going on since they started selling drugs to the American people since the 1960's.  Hell, they raise billions and billions of dollars this way every year.   These sheriff's just decided to get some face time for their future re-election campaigns.    Besides, what else do sheriffs have to do anyway?    They're politicians, not law enforcement officers who graduated from a POST certified academy.

Ross
Ross

So the point is, the bad guys would not have had a gun because these were the last ones left on earth?

Eleanor
Eleanor

Eric Holder is a POS liar. i have always thought that and this fiasco has now reinforced my opinion of him.

ExpertShot
ExpertShot

The Government didn't sell the guns, individual citizens are - by the millions.  The analogy is the 1800s with U.S. citizens selling guns to the Native Americans to use against their own country men. 

These people selling guns without proper documentation are the root of the problem Fast and Furious is trying to stop.  1000 guns out of millions of guns sold? 

The program started in the Bush Administration, not the Obama Administration.   It's effect depends on the secrecy of the operation - I believe Issa is a traitor by revealing sensitive information which puts a law enforcement operation in jeapordy.  Nothing is said about numerous law enforcement officers who have been killed or injured by guns sold to the cartels by citizens, NOT the U.S. Government!  If Issa was so concerned about agents getting killed in general, then he'd be all over the NRA and the gun lobby for encouraging undocumented gun sales at gun shows and fighting against laws to stop them!

Anon
Anon

These sheriffs lack credibility and are part of what's wrong with Arizona -- shoot first, ask later.

Seedy Ward
Seedy Ward

First the Bureau of Accusations, Treachery, and Fabrications should be axed. Then the same treatment for the Dolt Employment Agency.

Anon
Anon

Guest, You're spot on!  We were wondering the same thing. They need to clean up the corruption in their own backyard. 

BostankyKanky
BostankyKanky

I don't like your idea. Obama would claim racisim or some stupid shit and beg Babeu not to say anything. I smell an impeachment coming...

Vic
Vic

What?  You seriously believe that the president knows everything in every agency, all the time?  Actually the Bush administration or maybe before "came up with this crazy..." Been going on for a long time, read the media reports. That said, the buck stops withtop guy always and that is Holder.

rocquedog
rocquedog

Wrong!!!  I personally know that Dever and Babeu are Post Certifified.  Dever was a deputy for many yrs. and has been involved in many wars against cartel related entities. He's also had some major wars with these entitlement addicted city types (read the book on the SHOOTOUT IN MIRACLE VALLEY) that involved the likes of Rev. Sharpton and his ilk.  He has atleast enough college credits to have his Bachelor's in Law Enf. 

Bobby
Bobby

You can't be serious!! 'What I actually mean is, if this is something you think is to be taken lightly, and if there are actually a lot of people like you in the U.S., THEN WE ARE DOOMED. Period.

Skanky
Skanky

No, the point is this might lead to Obama's impeachment. We don't really care anything about the guns, it's just get Holder and have him turn on Obama.

Seedy Ward
Seedy Ward

You're probably just smelling your own stinky body. There isn't any impeachment coming.

Bobby
Bobby

Very perceptive comment.

guest
guest

Oh, I see, just dreaming up another scenario to get rid of President Obama. I smell anelection coming, that is how you get rid of him.  But of course you need a good candidate first.

Bobby
Bobby

Would you quit making excuses for Obama. This issue is so serious that if you can't see anything but some kind of personal attack going on, you are in a highly deluded state.

BostankyKanky
BostankyKanky

You are a liar and will be investigated as part of this. You may end up as a cell mate of Holder's.

rocquedog
rocquedog

It will never happen.  Obama will soften the landing if it comes to Holder getting charged.  Besides,  Holder doesn't want to rock the boat less Obuma's handlers get PO'd at him.  That would be life altering!!!

Seedy Ward
Seedy Ward

I'd always hoped the same for Nixon and Reagan. You can't always get what you want.

Bobby
Bobby

You are utterly hopeless. Tell me, what would have to happen invovling the Obama administration, that you'd take seriously? It's scary, really scary knowing that there are people who think like you.

BostankyKanky
BostankyKanky

I won't be satisfied until Obama is in prision. Just so you know.

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