Andy Thomas' Hit Lady Lisa Aubuchon Testifying At Disciplinary Hearing

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An unrepentant Lisa Aubuchon is testifying at the moment before a hearing panel that is considering serious disciplinary action against her, her ex-boss County Attorney Andrew Thomas and another attorney.
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Andy Thomas: His testimony is forthcoming.


Aubuchon has been trying to explain the litany of oft-told events that led to the ongoing hearings at the Arizona Supreme Court. She and Thomas face possible disbarment, and the third attorney, Rachel Alexander, may be suspended from the practice of law.

A few minutes ago, she told State Bar independent counsel James Sudler that she still believes then-presiding criminal judge Gary Donahoe was guilty of felony "bribery."

Those following all this county craziness will recall that Thomas and Sheriff Joe Arpaio brought the unprecedented charges against Donahoe in December 2009, hours before the judge was to consider motions that could have taken the ongoing criminal cases against supervisors Stapley and Mary Rose Wilcox from the Maricopa County Attorney's Office.  

Aubuchon testified that Donahoe had been obstructing "all of the investigations" that prosecutors (actually her) were trying to conduct into alleged improprieties in the planning and construction of the county Court Tower, into supervisors Stapley and Wilcox, and other matters.
      

She said that Judge Donahoe should have been arrested because "he was committing crimes," but had been handed a summons out of "respect" for his office.

Sudler asked Aubuchon what bribe that Judge Donahoe had accepted.

"He doesn't need to be paid," she replied, adding (in a convoluted answer) that Donahoe was  continuing to rule as he did in various cases "for the protection of himself [and other officials] from criminal investigation" by the Thomas/Aubuchon/Arpaio/Hendershott team.

The eventually dismissed criminal case against Donahoe is just one of the many prongs of the State Bar's case against Thomas et al.

Aubuchon's M.O. has been to insist that she, like Andy Thomas, solely was interested in doing the right thing against the horde of evildoers bent on keeping the Maricopa County Attorney's Office of doing its job of attacking the alleged cancerous corruption inside the county's judicial and executive branches.

Aubuchon seems proud about the failed civil racketeering lawsuit that she composed against said evildoers, and that those looking back on it should look at the totality of the events, not an individual moment or situation.

In fact, she expressed dismay that Andy Thomas eventually authorized its dismissal after several missteps.

We'll save more analysis for later, and colleague Ray Stern (who has been doing a nice job of covering as much of these hearings as time allows) may be jumping back into the fray.

For now, we are reminded of something that another onetime colleague, Sarah Fenske (who just got the editor's gig at our sister paper, LA Weekly) wrote after Andy Thomas turned the RICO lawsuit over to pathetically over-her-head "special assistant" Rachel Alexander:

"Now, it's worth noting that New Times has long enjoyed a laugh at the hapless Aubuchon, a lawyer who's bungled her way through some of Thomas' most misguided prosecutions -- and lost just about every one that we're aware of. (Ajo Al's was charged with dirty dining? Not guilty. ACLU legal director Dan Pochoda charged with trespassing? Not guilty. How about Tom Lovejoy, the cop accused of killing his partner/police dog, Bandit? Again, not guilty.)

"As much as we hate to admit it, though, Aubuchon likely wasn't taken off the RICO suit because her boss suddenly became aware of her general incompetence. No, we suspect it had more to do with a legal brief filed by Jordan Green, the lawyer representing Judge Gary Donahoe.

"Just after filing the RICO lawsuit in federal court, Aubuchon filed a direct criminal complaint against Judge Donahoe on behalf of the County Attorney's Office, alleging that he'd committed bribery by allowing the court tower project to go through. (Never-mind that the complaint didn't even come close to alleging any actual bribery.)

"But, as Donahoe's lawyer pointed out, the county attorney is barred from prosecuting anyone who he's also suing. In the RICO suit, Thomas claims that his office has been victimized by Judge Donahoe and his co-conspirators. According to the laws governing attorneys in Arizona, that means Thomas can't also use his office to prosecute them."

All of that has come up today, and a lot more.

Our sage analysis:  Frightening stuff!



 


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Gerry_C
Gerry_C

New Times Morning Poll (Unofficial and Unsanctioned by New Times):

Will Andy wear his porn star stash for the hearing?

Will Andy get nervous and wet himself?

Will Andy throw Arpaio under the bus?

Will Andy be as deluded as Aubuchon?

Will Andy refuse to ask questions of Bar Counsel since he is not licensed to practice law in AZ?

seeking the truth
seeking the truth

We've waited for years for these tyrants to be hauled before a court of their peers. They are a disgrace to the law profession and prosecutors in general. It is time to take absolute immunity away from prosecutors. No one should have that much power over peoples' lives, especially the arrogant, narcissist, sociopathic types which we are hearing and seeing. The special counsels for the Bar are outstanding and ON POINT!  Arizona lawyers and law students should be studying Gleason and Sudlar to learn what a professional sounds like. 

Carl Toersbijns
Carl Toersbijns

Good Points and long awaited destny for those who believe in Karma - Students pay attention and remember, with the power ouf authority invested, goes the responsbility to do it right and fair to all not just those you favor or in policial position that can promote selfish desires. Leave your personal agenda at the door once you become a public servant.

Former Republican
Former Republican

Paul, Outstanding reporting of today's Aubuchon hearings. It is frightening to hear how the Maricopa County Attorney's office has operated for years. Thousands of lives have been destroyed under this reign of terror that demands outside investigation and a major housecleaning. Thomas/Aubuchon/Alexander/Wells should ALL be disbarred and sent to prison. I'm sure there are others in the MCAO who also should go along with them. For starters, those who wrongfully convicted Ray Krone, an innocent man, who spent almost twenty years in prison.

seeking the truth
seeking the truth

Today was just the tip of the iceberg. Arizona has a very serious problem with their criminal justice system and those in "control" abusing their power and running rough shod over the people and the state of Arizona. There are no words to describe what should be done to those who have trashed the Constitution.

Gerry_C
Gerry_C

With all this going on, it seems that the New Times has not picked up on the latest Mexican Drug Cartel saying they want to come across the border and assassinate the Sheriff.  I get the feeling that the Sheriff is taking it very seriously.  He chose only a single TV station to discuss the threat with.

Gerry_C
Gerry_C

Is it true that Thomas will appear by telephone tomorrow?

Anthony Wesley
Anthony Wesley

My God,  She really doesn't even understand what a bribe is!  What an absolute MORON!  This was the best that Candy Andy could come up with?

Guest23
Guest23

Heh, obviously thomas wasn't hiring according to accomplishments, skill, schooling or experience... most likely his criteria included blind loyalty, an ability to twist the law to fit an agenda (and justify it with faith and complete immersion in deluded belief) and unjustified ferociousness. Hell, thomas barely had any experience before a judge from what I understand.

The Real Wanumba
The Real Wanumba

Send the three stooges to jail, corrupt, awful people.

Thomas is the worst, he should never ever practice law again.  Utter swine

AZ FAIL
AZ FAIL

Crazy. Stupid. Bitch.

WhoKnows
WhoKnows

WHEN Thomas and Aubuchon get disbarred (there's no doubt any more), the DOJ needs to get a TON of letters about going after this band of clowns (including Henderblimp and Joke).

It's been over 1000 days investigating Joke, and all the DOJ needs is the last few weeks of testimony in the disbarment hearings.  These hearings are being watched nation wide.

If a paper that has "sister publications" in spots around the nation were to call for a nation wide letter drive to the DOJ, it could happen!  Maybe a paper where the top two guys were arrested in the middle of the night in black SUVs for a minor charge by these clown with plastic badges and law degrees written on toilet paper.

Come on.  Let's get organized!  We need to wake up the DOJ with letters!

Anon
Anon

Need your suggestions for an effective letter, since they've all ignored the many we have written.

wanumba
wanumba

i am the real wanumba, and will stick pins in my voodoo doll for anyone using my name on the New times,  If you make fun of lmy Lisa, it will be double pins!wanumba only posts on SA and no voodoo in the world could make me post here!

US War Veteran
US War Veteran

"no voodoo in the world could make me post here! "   

You are posting here now aren't you?  Next time send a messenger so people know you mean what you say, otherwise you come across as a flake, or more exactly, a Rus-SELL Pearce supporter.

WhoKnows
WhoKnows

It's sarcasm..   the watootie guy is throwing a tantrum at sonoran alliance about someone using his name here.

Ross
Ross

So at about 1:05 into the video, we hear a dog barking.

Is this a cadaver dog?  Are they going to give her a fair trial, then bury her in an undisclosed desert location?

Or is it a drug sniffing dog?  OK, which of you real journalists has needed medical marijuana to get through these painful episodes?

Gdog816
Gdog816

Naw....that was Alexander calling for help to find her way out of the court house....

Jason
Jason

Candy Andy's testimony tomorrow promises to be good, better than both Aubuchon and Alexander's testimony combined.

Can we sell tickets and bring beer and popcorn? I don't wanna miss this!!

Former Republican
Former Republican

I would attend the hearing but I'm afraid of what I might do or say. This MCAO "troika" joined at the hip with the MCSO "troika" are truly frightening. Destroying our own people within our borders. With the way they handle justice, I would call all of the "homeland terrorists" within our borders.

WhoKnows
WhoKnows

The woman clearly has some mental issues.  It's scary that she was involved in ANY legal cases, or even got a law license to begin with.

Seems she refuses to accept that someone knows more than she does, and got VERY cranky when asked to explain anything.  The "probable cause" statement for Donahoe was interesting. 

"where does it indicate any hint of Bribery?""All of it.  Criminal law is complex!  You don't understand!""So point out where it even give a hint of Bribery""All of it does.."

Jason
Jason

Yep. I know that firsthand. I retained Aubuchon (I am on a limited income) for a legal dispute and I suspect that she abused her power. I started handling the issues myself as a result.

"The woman clearly has some mental issues."

Yourproductsucks
Yourproductsucks

I call bullshit. There is nothing in your comment that passes the smell test.

Gerry_C
Gerry_C

DELUSIONAL

Carl Toersbijns
Carl Toersbijns

No wonder MCSO detectives had a hard time keeping up with her.. She saw things in her own way like a supernatural freak does in Ghost whisperer.

mikefrombisbee
mikefrombisbee

"I see crooked judges everywhere...and the scary thing is, they don't know they're crooked..".

WhoKnows
WhoKnows

Seems she saw many things that only existed in her warped brain.  And trusted what Candy, Joke, and Blimp told her like it was written on stone tablets and found in a burning bush!

David Saint
David Saint

she sure does try and connect dots that arent there, quite a bit.  She comes off as arrogant and ignorant at the same time.  An "idiot savant" if you will..no wonder Arpaio liked her so much lol

Follower_of_the_ONE
Follower_of_the_ONE

Does an "Idiot Savant" excel at ONE thing?  Good call though David, she evidently excels at evasive answers ... would that not make Arpiao, Hendershott and Alexander savants as well... or just idiots?

Henden3
Henden3

The writer is correct. This is very frightening.

Deniseaz
Deniseaz

Lisa sure did throw JoKKKe under the bus , and i find it interesting that hearsay, rumors , could be's ,. might have's and hurt feelings are grounds for law litigation

Gerry_C
Gerry_C

"...and i find it interesting that hearsay, rumors , could be's ,. might have's and hurt feelings are grounds for law litigation"

Not only are they grounds for litigation.  With this crowd it could bring the awesome power of the state down on your head.

Carl Toersbijns
Carl Toersbijns

Scary isn't it - her criteria of being "criminal" fits us all

Jason
Jason

One has to remember that the ability to practice law is a PRIVILEGE, not a right.

What we have here is an abuse of the privilege to practice law, nothing short of an abuse of power.

Why are we even wasting tax dollars on this? We already know that Thomas/Aubuchon/Alexander worked in conjunction with Henderblimp and the Flaccid Fool to bring the RICO suit and the criminal charges against Judge Donahoe. If memory serves me, it was the brilliant idea of the MCSO shurf to charge Donahoe with the three felonies for ruling against him and Candy Andy.

Just disbar all three miscreants and indict Arpaio. Save us all the embarrassment, humiliation, and tax dollars.  

Guest23
Guest23

Hell, if we are going to dream about what could be done if it wasn't illegal why not wish for someone to go all lucid dream batsh*t guncrazy like loughner on arpaio, thomas, aubochon, alexander, pearce, horne, abd brewer... completely flush out the system of all its sh*t and stank and corruption. All these politicians that break the law in horrendous acts of self righteousness and bigotry. But, heh, that wouldn't be right or constitutional but it ain't illegal to dream is it? Well, in loughners case I think it was his dreaming that blurred the lines between waking reality and the dream world that lead to gifford gettin' a bullet in the head.

Yourproductsucks
Yourproductsucks

Wow.

The sanctity of human life means nothing to you?

Guest23
Guest23

Heh, read again moron... I qualified my statement by stating "if we are going to dream if it wasn't illegal" and "that wouldn't be right or constitutional..." so obviously I am not condoning such actions in real life.. just a make believe life where real justice prevails... kinda like a make believe life where superman prevails over injustice.

And part of my tongue in cheek response, I realize a subtlety that evades your moronic sensibilities, is that the individuals I named have such a lack for the sanctity of human life that they indulge in politics, legislation and practices that ruin, kill and irrepairably harm peoples lives unnecessarily. That I imagine those whose lives they have ruined or killed would not be repaired even if they suffered the death penalty for their crimes but may have received a little solace if such an action were carried out some how since the current justice system has failed them.

But heh, that's a big picture your feeble little cop mind can't comprehend.

Keep up nipping at my heels little runt puppy, it provides me a few minutes of entertainment spanking you again and again.

vinceclortho1
vinceclortho1

While I understand the frustration, I cannot agree.  Aubuchon is getting the due process that she denied to others.  That is as it should be, because we are better than her.

Guest23
Guest23

While I don't condone such extreme action in real life, I do imagine that some of those whose lives were ruined may never see any justice unless something illegal like I suggested took place. While vigilanteeism has it flaws when the standing justice, law enforcement and govt fail to act and prosecute individuals who ruin peoples lives than it sometimes has it place.

I will admit my words and scenario were extreme but seeing how most of those I mentioned will probably get away with their crimes it isn't out of the realm of reason to think it... just definitely out of the realm of reason to act on such a thing.

Jason
Jason

Agreed. I just wish we taxpayers didn't have to pay for her due process.

Occupy Phoenix
Occupy Phoenix

Take your signs to Occupy Phoenix and get others to do the same. Film it if the local media won't -- show the world what is coming their way if it doesn't stop in Arizona!

Follower_of_the_ONE
Follower_of_the_ONE

Well Jason you are certainly steadfast in your conviction ... violent relocation .... so I am forwarding a comprise... All of the above, in your list, tarred and feathered by the angry mob about to run them out of the state?  I'm willing to sacrifice the rail component on the grounds that it would be funny as hell watching the tarred and feathered chickenshits scurrying from the angry mob.

Jason
Jason

I personally like the "run out of town by an angry mob" option.

In fact, the "run out of town by an angry mob" option is exactly what we need to restore sanity back into Arizona.

We could rid ourselves of Pearce, the MCSO and PCSO shurfs, GED Jan, Tom Horne, Candy Andy, Aubuchon, Alexander, etc. with my "run out of town by an angry mob" option.  

Follower_of_the_ONE
Follower_of_the_ONE

I understand that due process is a bite in the taxpayer's asses but necessary.  However Jason I'm also leaning heavily towards the tar, feathers and rail option, we should keep it open and on the table.  That will only add more pressure to the "disembowelees".

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