Attention Senator Lori Klein: Jordan McGrath is Why You Don't Point Loaded Guns at People

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Jordan McGrath now knows why pointing a loaded gun at someone is a bad idea.
As state Senator Lori Klein refuses to discuss why she pointed a loaded gun at a reporter during an interview last week, she might learn a thing or two from a Tempe man who found out the hard/deadly way what can happen when you ignore basic firearm-safety rules.

The senator might be interested to know that sometimes guns do things when they're pointed at people -- for example, they can go off.

Enter Jordan McGrath, 28, charged with manslaughter after blowing his friend's brains out, apparently accidentally.

According to court documents obtained by New Times, McGrath, his friend Luke Dewaard, and another man spent Friday night drinking in Scottsdale.

About 1:30 a.m. Saturday, the trio returned to McGrath's condo at 2401 East Rio Salado Parkway, where Dewaard sat down and put his head down on his hands as they were folded on a table.

Apparently joking around, McGrath grabbed a gun from a nearby gun box, pointed the gun at Dewaard's head and told him to "get up."

Then he pulled the trigger.

Long story short, the gun fired, and now Dewaard's dead.

McGrath later told police that he and Dewaard had been at the Scottsdale Gun Club earlier in the day. When they got home, McGrath cleaned the gun and put a loaded magazine in the gun's magazine. Well, he wasn't sure if he'd put a live round in the chamber, but apparently he did.

Klein, meanwhile, says in a statement that she's learned a valuable lesson by pointing a loaded gun at a reporter.

"I have learned several lessons from this experience that I will never forget. First, it doesn't matter if a reporter or anyone else asks, I won't be showing anyone my gun," Klein says. "It may help them take a better picture, but my gun isn't a fashion statement or accessory, it is a life-saving tool to keep me and my family safe."


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matt gordon
matt gordon

If Klein is sincere about learning a lesson, then she should volunteer to do a PSA for local or state law enforcement regarding firearm safety.

Jonathan Mercer
Jonathan Mercer

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Miguelobrien4
Miguelobrien4

Maybe we should buy joe a pink .45 and paint his tank pink.  What was that submarine?

Miguelobrien4
Miguelobrien4

Guess what, people.  You no longer need even a permit to carry in AZ.  Kind of handy for me, since I live on a working ranch and do not always pay attention whether I have my friend with me and where.  Saved me some time and money, too.  But I do think there are some limits, like schools and public offices, although there have been some schools where I taught that I considered packing in.  But I am Marine Corps trained, Navy expert rifle and pistol, and I would never point and not shoot. I believe there is a law, even in AZ, against "brandishing."  She should be charged.  Why doesn't Ruelas press charges?  There are some other possibilities, especially if there is a tape.  BTW, pink is my favorite color, in its proper place, but not on a pistol.

Cmp575s
Cmp575s

I was friends with Luke through Jordan. Both extremely great human beings. Tragic, terrible, horrible don't do this situation justice. Keep in mind these were two amazing people who's lives are both over. So many lives destroyed by this tragedy my prayers are with Luke, Jordan and their families and friends. RIP Luke you will be missed by all.

Ashyco1818
Ashyco1818

I appreciate that you are trying to make a statement by comparing and contrasting these situations. However, it is very rude and cold of you to make a political satire out of recent tradgity. Yes, loads guns should never be pointed without the intent of use, but please respect both families involved by not using the incident to make your political statement.

Tim Hanner
Tim Hanner

Why are people attacking the person who wrote this article? He wrote an accurate article, no? I don't see how stating the facts differently would change anything. "Blowing his friends brains out" could be switched to " the fucking idiot put a gun to his friends head and pulled the trigger." When I read this story I instantly thought of the dead guy not how the guy that pulled the trigger feels. Least of all his friends. Why should it be toned down? To save the guy who is still alive some hurt feelings? Should I send him a card that says "So sorry you shot your friend?" If you are man enough to put a gun to your friends head, be man enough to take the shit people call you, you probably deserve it.

TexasDude
TexasDude

Guns don't just go off.  "Then he pulled the trigger."  Ever notice how guns only "go off" when there are people around?

Ted
Ted

It is no wonder that Arizona is in such terrible shape with morons like this woman in the state Senate. What an idiotic dummy!

not smart
not smart

Please tell me why. a guy gets in his car drunk kills his buddy and people scream murder. a guy gets drunk points a gun at his buddy pulls the triger and people defend him. WTF is wrong here. 

123
123

"after blowing his friend's brains out" SERIOUSLY?!?

Mr. King, your words are DISGUSTING and just as irresponsible as jokingly pointing a gun at someone. I consider your article premeditated though.

DB
DB

Loaded or not, you don't point a gun at anything you don't intend to shoot! It's that simple.

sad
sad

What a terrible way to exploit the memory of Luke DeWaard. All of you, like the senator, should be ashamed of yourselves.

Drw232p
Drw232p

Using the words "blew his brains out" is both unnecessary and extremely insensitive. I knew both of these guys involved and they were and have been extremely close friends for a very long time. Spreading the message of gun safety is one thing, but to describe this tragedy in such a terrible way is ridiculous.

I wasn't "shooting the messenger" as you so elequantly put it, I was just pointing out that the author of this post is an idiot.

Drw232p
Drw232p

Jordan is punished right now far more then any court can do. Anyone that has ever been around guns has similar stories of people joking around and pointing a gun at someone, except they don't end in the tragic death of one of their closest friends.The wording in this article above is disgusting and is only seeking to politicize this tragedy rather then allowing the family of the deceased to mourn their loss.

Guest
Guest

I know this is unrelated to the theme of this article, but I can't contain myself.  I'm a close relative of the individual killed in this ordeal and I feel the way this article was written is terribly insensitive.  I'm all for using the story to promote stronger gun control but at least be respectful in your description of the incident.  

James King,I hope you have the decency to make some article edits before other family members stumble across 

not smart
not smart

my five year old knows not to pont a gun at someone and pull the triger. he will answer to a higher power someday

Enuf Istoomuch
Enuf Istoomuch

An accident, so far as I am concerned, is something that cannot be easily avoided. Something breaks, somethings fails to operate as it should, some unforeseeable event occurs that has a negative outcome.

Deciding to pull the trigger on a firearm does not result in an accident. It results in the gun operating properly. McGrath's actions are not accidental, they are reckless and incompetent.

You see, there is such a thing as being neither a deliberate act with evil intent or an accident. There is also stupid, foolish, other concepts along these lines. Some of which can rise to criminal.

The Senator behaved incompetently. She deserves to lose her right to carry a gun. Naturally, as a politician she cannot accept personal responsibility and consequences. That would elevate her to the level of a child who neglected to do her homework, clean the dishes or remember to say "Please" and "Thank You".

Politicians are generally operating at the level of an infant. A mouth at one end, an alimentary canal at the other and no discretion between.

Katie Stocking
Katie Stocking

Sir - please note Luke Dewaard is somebody people like me actually knew. He is from a VERY small town in Algona Iowa. It would be nice if you did not refer to his awful tragic death as "blowing his brains out".  Obviously I agree gun safety (always has been) should be a priority and taken with the highest seriousness. However, this is a horribly sad time and I don't think that is a good memory of him.  

Chad Snow
Chad Snow

Isn't Lori Klein on probation for her DUI still?  I wonder what her probation officer thinks of her carrying a loaded gun and pointing it at people?  

RetiredArmy
RetiredArmy

"I won't be showing anyone my gun, Klein says."

Hmm does she have a sexual identity problem besides being stupid? Or I guess she has never been in the Army and doesn't know the difference between a weapon and a gun.

Wake up people!!
Wake up people!!

Lori Klein lacks the common sense and judgement to be in a position of power making laws and setting policy. Anyone else would be arrested and thrown into the criminal justice system with it's draconian sentencing laws she and her cohorts write.

Guest
Guest

Sen. Klein you are not Sarah Palin.  Perhaps when she moves to Arizona she can help with your weapon safety techniques. 

Tommy Collins
Tommy Collins

An "amazing" person doesn't point a gun at a friend and pull the trigger. Yes, it's tragic, but there is no defense for this kind of tragedy.

Jennifer
Jennifer

I think you are missing the point that the article was written very insensitively in the terms that his family could be looking for more information about what happened and see that comment.  That is  the problem most people are having.  I agree with you, who gives a shit about the idiot that shot him.  What he did was totally assinine and even though he was Luke's friend I hope he is found guilty just for the sheer fact that what he did was one of the dumbest and senseless things I have ever heard in my life  Luke was taken from his family and friends by the act of a drunk idiot.  The whole situation is very sad and utterly sickening. 

KD
KD

Did you know either of these guys? NO, I did as did many others and so yes it should be toned down for the sake of other peoples feeling.  Yes, Jordan made a HUGE mistake but I guarentee he is hurting tremendously and for those of us that know him, Luke or both care about what is said and HOW it is said.  Put yourself in the position of knowing both of these guys and caring about their feelings.  Jordan is hurting enough with his own thoughts and feelings he doesn't need those of you who have no clue what kind of person he is setting judgement.   Respect these people feelings (Family and Friends), when you meet these people and have the right to make such statements then go for it but in the mean time shut your mouth.

Tim Hanner
Tim Hanner

I understood completely who took offense to the writing style, it is the New Times for Christ sake. It is not a political statement I was making. It was simple you are reading the New Times. Not Readers Digest.

FIW
FIW

I think you may have mis-understood who was taking issue with the language...it is the family and friends of the deceased, not the one who pulled the trigger. They are the ones who are, and should be, sensitive to the language in this article.

Guest
Guest

I don't think the comments above are concerning McGrath in any way. The author of this article made a choice to describe the incident in a way which is insensitive to the ones who knew and loved Luke. I think King should consider editing the article for the sake of Luke's family and friends.

LT
LT

Did you think about the dead man's mom reading this article?

For ayone who doesn't understand why King's choice of words is disrespectful... keeping thinking about it. Maybe ask someone smarter than you to explain it to you.

It's pretty simple... you're bound to figure it out sooner or later.

LT
LT

Not smart indeed. You're not on the same page. Who exactly are you refering to? I don't see that anyone is defending Jordan's actions.

CH
CH

Agreed, DB. Sometimes tact is more important than shock factor.

Tommy Collins
Tommy Collins

DB, if you've ever been on the scene of a gunshot to a human you will know his description is likely pretty accurate.

I don't understand why some of you folks have chosen to attack Mr. King regarding this article.

The dumbass here is the guy who was playing with a gun and killed his friend. If you feel the need for anger over the death, direct it at the criminal who killed his friend.

DbJ
DbJ

You also don't put your finger on the trigger (always straight along the frame) until you have decided to fire it & yes, never pointed at anything you're not willing to destroy!

Tommy Collins
Tommy Collins

The fact that he killed someone by pointing a gun at him and pulling the trigger is what is disgusting. Don't shoot the messenger here...

not smart
not smart

i only point guns at things i want to kill. anyone who does otherwise knows nothing about guns and should not be allowed to own one

Guest
Guest

I totally agree....I am not a relative but i did go to school with him....It is very disrespectful the way it was written.

N

Beth McCracken
Beth McCracken

I feel the same way.  Thank you for stating it so nicely, as I was hurt and livid when I read Mr. King's description of how my cousin died.  Please keep in mind there are many people grieving and searching for information.  They will find this article and will be subjected to reading this highly insensitive description.

Twink95f
Twink95f

I agree.  He is part of my extended family.

Pit Boss
Pit Boss

You can become a state senator while on probation? Am I missing something here or is that kind of risky?

Not surprised
Not surprised

Really good point!  Wonder how we can track down her PO and get them to review the video and interview the report?

Tommy Collins
Tommy Collins

KD, you have no right to post here for others to not express their opinions. You posted yours, yes? We read yours. I'm sorry you take exception to what others have said. Neither the remorse of Jordan, or the feelings of yourself, will bring back the human life that Jordan has taken.

Mr. King has the right to report this, and everyone has a right to post comments.

Ubvds
Ubvds

You r a fucking idiot

Sachens15
Sachens15

Tommy  you are seriously missing the point. This is a vey sad ordeal that Mr. Dewaards family and friends are going through. I knew Luke Dewaard and it would have been a little nicer, not to mention respectful, to read an article that wasn't so calloused sounding by the authors lack of humility. To use descriptions like this is both rude and unsympathetic, I feel for the family and friends who are trying to find out more information about their loved one and stumble across this crude article.

Beth McCracken
Beth McCracken

Those of us grieving know exactly how horrible the "scene" was. To read it, rather bluntly, while searching for ANY information about event was shocking and wholly insensitive on Mr. King's part.

123
123

There was no need to describe 'the scene' for drama's sake. Mr. King could have made his point without the rhetoric.

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