Ame Deal's Father Trying to Bail Monsters Who Murdered His Daughter Out of Jail

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Ame Deal, 10, was tortured and murdered by her own family. Now her father wants to bail the monsters out of jail.
The father of a 10-year-old Phoenix girl who was tortured and murdered by members of her own family earlier this month is trying to raise money to bail his daughter's killers out of jail, a source who knows the family tells New Times.

The source asked not to be identified out of fear of what Ame's father, David Deal, might do if the source's identity is revealed. Our source says Deal's a "violent man."

According to our source, David Deal has called friends and family members asking for money so he can bail his mother and sister, both charged with kidnapping and child abuse for repeatedly torturing the young girl, and his niece and her husband, who admitted to killing Ame, out of jail.

Ame's cousin and her husband, Samantha and John Allen, each 23, admitted to locking the girl in a tiny footlocker after torturing her because she "stole" a Popsicle in the early morning of July 12. They left her there overnight and when they found her body the next morning she had suffocated. 

Putting Ame in the footlocker as punishment, sadly, was standard procedure for the abusive family, according to police.

Click here for the horrific details of the abuse Ame suffered at the hands of her own family.

Our source says David Deal was living in a tent in the backyard of the home with his two other children when Ame was murdered. According to court records obtained by New Times, he was not one of the three people who reported the abuse of the girl to police.

In fact, David Deal denies that he's even Ame's father, as does the rest of the family, according to court records.

Our source says Ame's mother dropped the girl off at the home of David Deal's mother (Ame's grandmother, who's charged with abusing the girl), 62-year-old Judith Deal, when she was living in Texas.

The family moved around a lot -- to places like Pennsylvania, Utah, Texas, and Tucson -- before setting in Phoenix.

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Phoenix Police Department
John and Samantha Allen (left) have each been charged with first-degree murder for the death of Samantha Allen's cousin, 10-year-old Ame Deal. Judith Deal and Cynthia Stolzmann (right), Deal's grandmother and aunt, have been charged with kidnapping and child abuse.
Of seven children living in the Deal home, and eight other young relatives living just down the street -- both homes near 35th Avenue and Broadway Road in Phoenix -- Ame was the only one who was abused. The other children would even intentionally do things to get Ame in trouble, according to police.

When asked why the family would single out Ame, our source says "she was mentally a little slow, but that's it."

Our source never witnessed any abuse, but says Judith Deal is a "slob" and her house was always disgusting. At one point, while living in Wisconsin, Child Protective Services was called because of the disgusting conditions of the home. CPS was also called on the family when they lived Utah, court records show.

Judith Deal has always lived with her daughter -- Ame's aunt, Cynthia Stolzmann, who's also charged with child abuse and kidnapping for torturing her niece -- and is likely in jail "laying on her cot, or whatever, refusing to eat," our source says.

If Ame's father succeeds in bonding her out, she'll probably try to kill herself, as she's attempted suicide in the past.


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Lopez Pebbles
Lopez Pebbles

number one the source name is cassidy deal and she didnt like that the courts had taken her kids away from her numerus times because she was not feeding her kids and she was not changing the kids diapers and would sleep leaving kids unattended while she did drugs and go on dates, that is why the kids where given to cinthia. so before you talk shit do your investigation on your source, before using them as witnesses. thats where you guys did wrong she has motive to cause trouble. i knew these people for 4 years and i saw no abuse and my kids stayed over and my kids arent there blood and, i would get good reports on them. now cps wont give her other daughters there kids and that is kidnapping cause they had nothing to do with it so az is in wrong and should return there kids back!!!!!!!  

Slmay1
Slmay1

Because she was "a little slow"...by the looks of them, I bet they have a combined IQ of 70.  Some people should not reproduce!

Rashellemccarthy
Rashellemccarthy

The assholes that did this to this little girl should be put to dealth every last one of them

Africandream2
Africandream2

Ame Deal's mother is the BAD ONE to leave her children with that monster family...NO MOTHER AND I REPEAT NO MOTHER LEAVE HER CHILDREN...SHE MUST SAVE HER TEARS WHEN SHE GOES TO HELL!!! 

Ronnie Rayguns
Ronnie Rayguns

Pitiful, just plain pitiful.  RIP Ame, please rest in peace.

Twiztidfreack2006
Twiztidfreack2006

David deal is not the father of Ame. I have seen everything that goes on in that household. Ame was not the only one that had been abused. Daivds oldest was also beat and foced to do things that's not fit for a human being. I hope all of them stay in jail for good. And I can make sure of that.

LUCYJAZZPHX
LUCYJAZZPHX

I have been sitting here and reading comment after comment about who should be in jail and the extended family's credability. I must say people never cease to amaze me. A beautiful innocent little girl was murdered because she "stole" a popsicle. She was physically tortured and abused for years. I am sure that along with the physical there was also emotional abuse. Whether or not the mother was mentally incapacitated to take care of her children does not justify here leaving her daughter and other children in the hands of abusers. If you knowingly leave your child in a place where you as an adult are running from, that makes you just as guilty as those who killed her. As far as the "father" goes, "Who gives a crap if he fathered her or not!!" He was another adult who looked the other way and failed to protect a CHILD!! He should also be held responsible for Ame's death. And for the extended family, "now they are outraged!?" They all live within minutes of each other and they noticed nothing?! What kind of BS is that? You would have to be blind not to notice a child who is being abused or neglected. And even then I highly doubt that. But keep telling yourselves you had no idea if it makes you feel better. It still does not change the fact that Ame is gone through no fault of her own. Negligence on society failing to protect her is what ultimately killed her. CPS, what happened to their close monitoring of this child?! The filthy conditions these people were living in should have prompted CPS  to act quickly and remove here from that environment. And for all those who are sitting here and gossiping about what they did or did not know about the family, WHO CARES!!!! THE POINT IS "YOU KNEW!!!!!" AND YOU DID NOTHING!!!! SHE SUFFERED, THEN DIED, AND NOTHING IS GOING TO CHANGE THAT!!! My heart aches for all the Ame's who are out there suffering any type of child abuse. For those children who are out there suffering, I pray that someone says something. And God Bless and Protect all of his little Angels. Ame, at least now you are back with your father and you will never hurt again.....GOD BLESS YOU!!

LMR
LMR

Bunch of inbreds....

kat
kat

More good news...

According to this article, it appears that the police/media now have a source that knows the family and - one could conclude by various comments - knew poor little Ame.  Two things bother me about this article:

1.  This apparent source has given all of this interesting info, but it fails to mention whether or not it gave any of this info to any of the various Child Services in the areas that they lived.  Another shining example of human genetics wasted on a piece of flesh that should not be considered as such.

2.  The Mother.  The sources has come forward to state that little Ame's mother had her safe, but then WILLINGLY dropped her off with these degenerates to go live in Texas.  If this is true, can she be charged with endangering the welfare of a minor child with depraved indifference knowing full well how that genetic mistake of a family felt about her and her offspring?

I have a comment for the Darwin Award people; the tree of life might be self-pruning, but even nature needs a little help once in a while.

TeeKay
TeeKay

I hope all of these mouth-breathers seriously consider suicide....save the government some money. Pure filth, all of them. Little girl didn't have a chance.

CAMSHEEL
CAMSHEEL

Thie killers need to go to PRISON Not be bailed out. These dang freaks killed this child. How the HELL WOULD A JUDGE LET THEM OUT.They are the devil I hope they neaver see the light of day again. All the other kids should be taken away by C.P.S. before another child gets killed. 

Cynthiah_w
Cynthiah_w

There should be NO BAIL for such crimes!

Kuei
Kuei

I guess he'll have to mortgage or sell his tent to try and raise bail money. Maybe Muammar Gaddafi would be interested.

Rick and Alice
Rick and Alice

Please Please, don't try to kill yourself Cynthia, actually do it you worthless piece of hog crap

Guest
Guest

wow these people need to be gassed

BetteKatharyn
BetteKatharyn

These are some of the most ugly, fat, non brain having set of inbred bottom feeders I have ever had the displeasure of seeing.  Well thats not exactley true considering any one who is cowardly enough to abuse a child is hideous on the inside and out and I have seen and heard one too many stories like this.  When is justice going to prevail? They admitted to it so beat the living hell out them then lock em up in a small box squeeze those fat *%#@% in and throw it in the grand canyon!!!

Phoenix New Media
Phoenix New Media

Your as bad as Nancy Grace, baying for blood like a rabid Banshee.  I suppose you consider the presumption of innocence to be a legal loophole.

Tiredofthis11
Tiredofthis11

Alright, Most of the people that you see on here have not lived near this family in a very long time. They had no idea that this was going to happen to this young girl. They are going through a really hard time trying to deal with the death of their niece. The Extended Family lives in different states no where near Arizona. If you call living 1 to 10 states away from them in living within minutes of them then you are crazy. If the Extended Family would have known this was going to happen these people never would have had Ame in the first place. Ame was a very sweet young lady, and loved by a lot of people. This is a family that is in shock that they did this to a child. I am not making excuses for anyone, just trying to tell y'all a fact. I do not defend those who are guilty. I defend those that are innocent in all of this. Ame is now an angel in Heaven with her true father where she will never, ever be hurt again. Ame will be missed by this family, and She will be remembered forever. God Bless you Ame Lynn Deal

Jacklyn Russell
Jacklyn Russell

that must mean that you are an inbred to. Wow, how interesting!!!!!!!!

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Tigergrouch1988
Tigergrouch1988

THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT INBRED'S!!!!! THE MOTHER AND FATHER WERE FROM TWO DIFFERENT FAMILIES. SO HOW CAN YOU SAY THEY ARE INBRED'S. WHY, BECAUSE THE KIDS ALL LOOK ALIKE? WELL, DAH, WHAT DO YOU EXPECT?

Lost_confused11
Lost_confused11

THE MOTHER WAS LIVING WITH THESE PEOPLE IN PENNSYLVANIA, WISCONSIN, AND IN TEXAS. WHILE SHE WAS IN TEXAS SHE WAS COMMITTED TO A LOCAL MENTAL HOSPITAL. THE PSYCHIATRISTS MADE HER SIGN OVER HER CHILDREN. IT WAS RECORDED THAT SHE WAS AN UNFIT MOTHER, AND VERY DANGEROUS TO HERSELF AND THE ONES AROUND HER. SHE SIGNED THOSE KIDS OVER TO THE FAMILY. THE MOTHER NEVER FEARED FOR HER LIFE AND RAN AWAY. SHE TRIED KILLING HERSELF AND HER CHILDREN. 

Lost_confused11
Lost_confused11

that is why the bail is set so high. there is no way in hell that this man can ever get them out of jail. just think about it for a minute, and do the math. How much money would he need to get them out when there is $ 2 million dollars involved with their bails?

Jacklyn Russell
Jacklyn Russell

All the people that have caused harm and even killed this Child they are in jail. The Other Children Had Nothing to Do With Any of This!! So, should we punish them and take them away from their happy homes. What to please all of you stupid people out there?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Lost_confused11
Lost_confused11

Not all of the Adults in this family killed Ame Deal.. There are only 2 of them that killed her and they are in jail. The other 2 did not kill her they have different charges. As far as, the rest of the children: There are plenty of family members that really did love and care a lot for this little angel. They do not have a mean bone in their bodies they care and support their children. They show their children all the love in the world. So no the rest of these children do not need to be taken away from the other family members just left alone.

Lost_confused11
Lost_confused11

that is why they set the bail so high so they have no chance in hell to get out. 

Lost_confused11
Lost_confused11

just to let you know there is no way in hell this man will ever get the money together to get them out of jail. not when there are $ 2 million dollars involved. He has no family members willing to help out with this much money. 

Lost_confused11
Lost_confused11

Yeah she totally lies to everyone too. She never fled for her life she had to be put in a mental hospital for a year or even two. and to let everyone know she is STILL MARRIED TO DAVID DEAL. Wow, how dumb is that one?

Jason M.
Jason M.

As soon as our County Attorney, Bill Montgomery, can get a trial scheduled. I personally want to sit in on this shit. Hell, I hope I get selected for jury duty for this case.

Please call Maricopa County Attorney Bill Montgomery at (602) 506-5508 and ask him to reject any plea deal and push for the death penalty in this case.  

BetteKatharyn
BetteKatharyn

These animals admitted to the crime and as far as I am concerned they shouldn't even have a right to a trial.  Why should they get fair treatment? Did the child get a fair trial before they abused and killed her? NO!!! These maggots are trash and do not deserve to be fed, clothed and sheltered with our tax dollars!!! Torture is what they handed out and tortured is what they deserve!!!

Guest
Guest

I do when the evidence is clear. Punishment should be immediately hoarse and swift . The person that tortured children should be tortured daily in front of the world so its clear what will happen to people who act like real life nightmares to children.

I would welcome the criminal to their nightmare then let the good old fashion torture roll. How do the police know the child was locked in a foot locker before ?

What a slow horrible way to die she probably had to fight for each breath being in a painful position. I would imagine after being beat the child’s heart rate and adrenaline was pumping making it even harder on the poor child.

I Hope there is an after life so this child can enjoy all the love a child deserves.

If I could have one wish it would probably be to end cruelty towards children and animals.

The most loving defenseless life forces on the planet get treated in unspeakable ways while the rich the super powerful just jerk off each other with fund raisers and parties to help stop the problem.

God forbid the superrich and rich give up the comfort of their money to change the world to be a better place for everyone.

If someone would make a change using their own money and keeping track on where the money went things could change . It seems public( Public money =Tax payer or money collected by charities that the rich take credit for) money gets raised and just circles back to the rich and nothing changes.

 WE need to redistribute the wealth those that have it all are greedy.

Yea I do believe many situations like this could be prevented if Tax payer money was spent properly . How do the police know the child was locked in a foot locker before ?

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Yea I do believe many situations like this could be prevented if Tax payer money was spent properly .

Jacklyn Russell
Jacklyn Russell

GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT FIRST, BEFORE YOU GO MAKING FALSE STATEMENTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Kaz411
Kaz411

There is something called 'culpability' Jacklyn.. when a serious crime is committed in a household, and there is evidence of abuse, especially a pattern, the authorities have every right to place children in CPS custody until an investigation is complete. If something was to happen to one of the children that remained in the home, LAWSUIT. I know people are bashing the 'entire' family, but I think alot of us are referring to everyone living in that house of horrors, not the extended family in TX. When you have an adult who lived there and likely took part in the abuse or witnessed it, of course police are concerned about the children living there. IMO, police and CPS were absolutely right to take all children right now until it's determined that it is safe to go back.

Cindy
Cindy

Were these "good" family members aware of the child abuse that was happening?

Lisa Ann
Lisa Ann

Every adult living on or near the property that witnessed the abuse is culpable. Regardless of the unsuccessful excuses you want to make. A child, who witnesses abuse and is forced to take part in it, suffers a lifetime of horror and guilt. These folks allowed their children to see and help in this atrocity, so they should not ever get these children back.

Jacklyn Russell
Jacklyn Russell

That is all just hear say, there is no way in hell that this man can get them out of jail. There are family members that will not help him get Sammantha Allen or John Allen out of jail. They are there for a long time. He can try but he will never get enough money together to get them our.

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Cyn
Cyn

I know but they should make a precedent for such high crimes like this as "No Bail".  They will get charged with murder but this went on for years.  How can a person who makes the conscious decision to inflict pain and torture for years and years only get murder and that is IF they die? What about all the years lost, emotionally and chronologically for that child?  Are they forgotten because they lived, so the perp only gets attempted murder and abuse?  They should get the death penalty for what they did. They made her feel worthless and hopeless.  They stole her innocence and childhood and destroyed her soul. They can never repay that.

Jacklyn Russell
Jacklyn Russell

She is such a lair she never fled for her life. she tried to kill herself and her 3 children. So, where does she stand there. She should have stayed in the hospital. oops, my bad!! The were reports against her for child abuse, neglect, and abandonment and they did nothing to her. she wakes up one day and decides that this was a great day to die and take her kids with her. Gee, all she had to do is clean the house. really?

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Lost_confused11
Lost_confused11

Everyone has the right to a trial. this is  how our prison's get filled up and over populated. Not to mention the jail's. The sooner they go to trial the sooner they can go to prison. What do you think about that one?

Lost_confused11
Lost_confused11

OKAY I UNDERSTAND THAT TO A POINT. CPS WENT TO A WHOLE DIFFERENT HOME AND PULLED KIDS OUT BECAUSE THE KIDS WERE RELATED TO THESE PEOPLE. THE OTHER HOUSE THAT THE CHILDREN CAME FROM WAS CLEAN, THEY CARED, SUPPORTED, PROTECTED, AND HONORED THEIR CHILDREN. THE ONLY THING THAT ONE OF THEM DID WAS TRY TO DO CPR ON AME AND THAT MAKES THIS PERSON A BAD PERSON FOR DOING WHAT SHE WAS TRAINED TO DO. THIS OTHER HOUSE JUST BARELY MOVED DOWN TO ARIZONA FROM UTAH. ONLY BECAUSE ONE OF THEM NEEDED SURGERY TO HAVE A TUMOR REMOVED. SO THIS IS A BAD THING. THIS NOTHING LIKE COMING HOME FROM THE HOSPITAL TO FIND OUT THAT YOUR LITTLE COUSIN DIED. AND THEN HAVING CPS SHOW UP TO YOUR DOOR AND TAKE YOUR KIDS AWAY. THIS IS WHAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND. TWO DIFFERENT HOUSES AND TOTALLY DIFFERENT PEOPLE. 

Tiredofthis11
Tiredofthis11

The "GOOD" family members lived in different states. They had no idea that this kind of stuff was happening to this child, and I know that if anyone knew they would have gone to Arizona and taken that little girl away from them and taken her back home with them. 

Lost_confused11
Lost_confused11

How can the good men do anything when they had no clue it was going on in the first place?

Lost_confused11
Lost_confused11

NO THEY DID NOT KNOW ABOUT ANY OF IT UNTIL IT HIT THE NEWS. THE OTHER FAMILY MEMBERS ARE JUST AS PISSED OFF ABOUT THIS AS YOU ALL ARE AND WANT JUSTICE FOR AME DEAL JUST AS BAD AS Y'ALL DO. IF THEY HAD A CLUE ABOUT ANY CHILD ABUSE THEY WOULD HAVE FLOWN TO ARIZONA AND TAKEN THAT CHILD OUT OF THAT HOME. THEY WERE VERY SECRETIVE PEOPLE. 

Lisa Ann
Lisa Ann

"All it takes for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing." – Edmund Burke

Tiredofthis11
Tiredofthis11

The people she is referring to lived in their own home, took care of their own kids, They did not go down there that much because it was to crowded. Would you want to go down to someone's house that almost 20 people in it and visit with them? I sure wouldn't. If the house was big enough like 2 story's sure no problem. Just because they were related doesn't mean they went over there everyday. These children never went down there by themselves they always had their mother or their father will them, and they did not stay very long. 

Lost_confused11
Lost_confused11

These people were very secretive and did no abuse in front of other family members. They do not tolerate children being mistreated. They were told that Ame has a bed in the room with the other kids.  When they found out what they did they were all shocked. So, was the other side of the family. They still can't believe that this happened and that these people did this to her. They all loved Ame Deal with all of their hearts. If they knew anything was going on that little girl would still be a live and living in Texas or Pennsylvania with family that loved and cared for her. 

Lisa Ann
Lisa Ann

" THESE OTHER CHILDREN DID NOT SPEND VERY MUCH TIME DOWN THEIR IN THAT HOME." So, the children you are discussing spent a small amount of time in Ame's home? Yet nobody was aware of the way she was treated, or that Ame did not have a bed?

Lost_confused11
Lost_confused11

I HAVEN'T MADE ANY UNSUCCESSFUL EXCUSES JUST THE FACTS IN THIS CASE.  JOHN ALLEN AND SAMMANTHA ALLEN WERE THE ONES THAT KILLED HER AND THEY ARE FACING LIFE IN PRISON. CYNTHIA STOLTZMANN AND JUDITH DEAL ARE CHARGED WITH ABUSE AND KIDNAPPING.  THESE OTHER CHILDREN THAT I AM REFERRING TO WERE NOT IN THAT HOME. THEY WERE AT THEIR OWN HOME WITH THEIR AUNT.  THESE OTHER CHILDREN DID NOT SPEND VERY MUCH TIME DOWN THEIR IN THAT HOME.  NOT ALL OF THESE PEOPLE ARE BAD PEOPLE, JUST THE ONES THAT ARE IN JAIL.

Jacklyn Russell
Jacklyn Russell

this is a true fact here, everyone deserves to have a fair trial no matter what the crime is.

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