Medical Marijuana Claims its First Arizona Death: a Medical Marijuana Thief Shot During Weed Robbery

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Larry Miller, 38, tried to rob medical marijuana from a Phoenix man yesterday afternoon, which was a colossal mistake -- the man he tried to rob fatally shot him.

According to the Phoenix Police Department Miller and another man contacted a guy who'd been advertising himself as a medical marijuana salesman.

The medical weed peddler has a medical marijuana card that allows him to cultivate and possess weed. However, because of the cluster-fuck Arizona's medical marijuana program has become, it's unclear whether he's allowed to sell it, which could result in him getting charged with a crime (more on that later).

Either way, he'd been advertising that he'd sell some of his harvest to anyone with their own medical marijuana card.

Miller and another man, described only as a black male in his mid-20s, contacted the weed salesman and asked if they could make a purchase, Phoenix Sergeant Steve Martos tells New Times.

The three men met at the sellers apartment at 1780 West Missouri Avenue, where the seller asked his two clients to show him their medical marijuana cards. One of the men told him his was at his apartment and that he'd have to go get it -- luring the seller to the back of the apartment complex with him.

When they got to the back of the apartment complex, Miller pulled out a gun and tried to rob the seller.

Big mistake.

The seller also had a gun, which he used to fatally shoot Miller. The other suspect then fled on foot with the sellers backpack, which police say contained the weed.

The seller called 9-1-1 to tell them he'd shot a man when he tried to steal his weed. When police arrived, the seller was giving first-aid to Miller.

Miller was taken to an area hospital, where he later died.

Now for the tricky part: can the seller be charged with a crime?

Because of the wording in Arizona's new law, Martos says it's unclear if the seller can be charged with a crime -- but it doesn't appear that he can.

Arizona's new statute states that in order to get a medical marijuana card, a person must pledge "not to divert marijuana to anyone who is not allowed to possess marijuana pursuant to this chapter."

Because the seller in this case was requiring his clients to produce a medical marijuana card before he'd sell them any green, he's not selling weed to "anyone who is not allowed to possess marijuana."

However, Joe Yuhas, spokesman for the Arizona Medical Marijuana Association, whose principles are the people who put Prop 203 on the ballot, tells New Times that our take on how the law's written is "a very broad interpretation of the initiative."

"We designed the initiative so that licensed dispensaries would be the place where qualified patients would obtain their medicine, (or through licensed caretakers)," he says. "My belief is that this individual doesn't meet any criteria (to sell it, if he's not a caretaker).

"This is the very reason we called for a system of licensed dispensaries," he continues.

The final determination of whether the seller can be charged with any crime will come from the Maricopa County Attorney's Office -- which has already taken a firm stance against medical marijuana.

CLARIFICATION: Phoenix Sergeant Steve Martos did not refer to Arizona's medical marijuana law as a "cluster fuck." That language was used to paraphrase his description of the law's vagueness. The way this post was originally written could have implied that those were Martos' words, which they weren't. It has since been modified.


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Coz
Coz

I surprised the state did charge the victim with attempted murder for defending himself.It is the Arizona way.

Leo Haines
Leo Haines

 We all know that prop. 203 was voted in,in Nov. 2010. Az. is the most screwed up state out of all that have passed the Med. Marijuana Law. Dispensaries "ARE" open here, yet Jan Brewer doesn't seem to want to let "The People's" vote mean shit! Other states, Oregon, Washington, etc. are abusing the fantastic thing they have going on. Feds are cracking on lots of shit. Personally I believe, regardless of the issue, if a person is trying to rob you, you damn well have a right to defend yourself. My wife is an Az. Doctor. Federal. It will be years, if ever, before VA Medical Centers allow Pot to be prescribed. This is sad, as Morphine, Hydrocodone, Oxycodone, etc. etc. are being given out like candy. Medical Marijuana is the shit if you ask me. Some of you people want to argue about this or that, and go off into something that has nothing to do with the current issue. Robbery is Robbery, defend your shit. By the time the cops get there, it might be too late. Get Fucking Real.

Some1sangel24
Some1sangel24

Weed didn't claim a life! Omg when will people get it! Whoever this person was has it in them to shoot someone all along and its dumb fucks like that that ruin it for the rest of us! Oh and Brewer!? Don't get me started on her!

Coinspinner
Coinspinner

lol, isn't that like saying "Bank money claims first victim!!!   [when robber shot by security]"   

The Phoenix new times would have us ban banks then apparently.

concernedparentandtaxpayer
concernedparentandtaxpayer

Here's the real crime:

The AZ governor's actions are consistent with her close ties tothe private, for-profit prison industry (the people who want to lock up yourkids so that they can keep on making a buck): Here's some info from Wikipedia,and a link to the underlying story:

“The Brewer administration has also been investigated by KPHO for hiring ChuckCoughlin and Paul Senseman, both lobbyists for Corrections Corporation of America,as a policy advisor and communications director.[39] Although Coughlincontinues work as both a lobbyist and policy advisor, Senseman no longer doeswork for CCA. CCA operates six private, for-profit prisons in Arizona.[40] ”.Here’s the KPHO story, including a description of tens of thousands of dollarsin campaign money from Corrections Corporation. http://www.kpho.com/news/24834...So Ms. Brewer is working to keep marijuana illegal and is at the same timehiring staff from a very large, for-profit prison corporation and takingcampaign money from them. The AZ campaign finance site is at http://www.azsos.gov/cfs/Campa...but it’s not working for me; can anybody go in and see how much Ms. Brewer hastaken from the prison industry? Is that really the government that we want… runby the prison companies? Is there someone in AZ that could get this info intothe public arena?

 

Note that Ms. Brewer says she is trying to make sure noArizona citizen unwittingly breaks Federal law (in which case they could end upin Federal prison). She prefers to keep marijuana illegal under Arizona law, sothat people who use it can be sent to an Arizona prison (run by her campaigncontributor, Corrections Corporation of America).

Generalxsl
Generalxsl

So your trying to say this was the first death in AZ due to an attemped robbery?

bobg
bobg

HEADLINE FAILMr. King as has already been pointed out mmj doesn't have victims (unless they end up in the hands of the criminal justice system).

jsknow
jsknow

Why does the headline read "Medical Marijuana Claims its First Arizona Death"? 

MARIJUANA never killed anyone, anywhere on planet earth, of any age, in all of recorded history!

What killed this guy was the same thing that has been killing people for almost 100 years in the USA... marijuana PROHIBITION!

People don't kill because they are high on marijuana or because they want to get high. They kill for the MONEY! Marijuana PROHIBITION makes marijuana almost as valuable as gold. 

Once we re-legalize marijuana and adults can grow their own and/or buy marijuana like they buy beer and tobacco, no one will be killing because of marijuana PROHIBITION like they are now. We won't be funding criminals, gangsters, terrorists and illegal aliens with about $113 BILLION per year and the Government won't be WASTING $50 BILLION per year on marijuana PROHIBITION enforcement.

All anyone has to do is look at alcohol PROHIBITION! Al Capone didn't kill people because Al was drunk or because he wanted to get drunk, he killed them because they got between him and his illegal drug monry! This guy would never have been trying to steal marijuana if PROHIBITION hadn't caused it to be worth so much money!

When was the last time you heard of alcohol dealers getting into a shootout? I bet it was when alcohol was PROHIBITED!

Take the trade away from the criminals and put it in the hands of legitimate business people! Let adults that want to grow their own do it! Then ALL the violence associated with marijuana WILL END! Marijuana is NOT the problem! Marijuana PROHIBITION is the problem!

No matter where you stand on the issue of legalizing marijuana everyone should read:

MARIJUANA AND HEMP THE UNTOLD STORY, Thomas J. Bouril,

WHY IS MARIJUANA ILLEGAL, Pete Guither

and  the free online book:

THE EMPEROR WEARS NO CLOTHES, The Authoritative Historical Record of Cannabis and The Conspiracy Against Marijuana. 1985 (with at least 12 re-printings with updates)

Click the links to those titles on this webpage: Internet Explorer web browser: http://jsknow.angelfire.com/ho...   All Other Browsers: http://jsknow.angelfire.com/in...

If you think marijuana prohibition has anything to do with the imaginary, false, fabricated, alleged harms from using marijuana as a recreational drug, YOU HAVE BEEN DUPED!

jsknow
jsknow

Why does the headline read "Medical Marijuana Claims its First Arizona Death"? 

MARIJUANA never killed anyone, anywhere on planet earth, of any age, in all of recorded history!

What killed this guy was the same thing that has been killing people for almost 100 years in the USA... marijuana PROHIBITION!

People don't kill because they are high on marijuana or because they want to get high. They kill for the MONEY! Marijuana PROHIBITION makes marijuana almost as valuable as gold. 

Once we re-legalize marijuana and adults can grow their own and/or buy marijuana like they buy beer and tobacco, no one will be killing because of marijuana PROHIBITION like they are now. We won't be funding criminals, gangsters, terrorists and illegal aliens with about $113 BILLION per year and the Government won't be WASTING $50 BILLION per year on marijuana PROHIBITION enforcement.

All anyone has to do is look at alcohol PROHIBITION! Al Capone didn't kill people because Al was drunk or because he wanted to get drunk, he killed them because they got between him and his illegal drug monry! This guy would never have been trying to steal marijuana if PROHIBITION hadn't caused it to be worth so much money!

When was the last time you heard of alcohol dealers getting into a shootout? I bet it was when alcohol was PROHIBITED!

Take the trade away from the criminals and put it in the hands of legitimate business people! Let adults that want to grow their own do it! Then ALL the violence associated with marijuana WILL END! Marijuana is NOT the problem! Marijuana PROHIBITION is the problem!

No matter where you stand on the issue of legalizing marijuana everyone should read:

MARIJUANA AND HEMP THE UNTOLD STORY, Thomas J. Bouril,

WHY IS MARIJUANA ILLEGAL, Pete Guither

and  the free online book:

THE EMPEROR WEARS NO CLOTHES, The Authoritative Historical Record of Cannabis and The Conspiracy Against Marijuana. 1985 (with at least 12 re-printings with updates)

Click the links to those titles on this webpage: Internet Explorer web browser: http://jsknow.angelfire.com/ho...   All Other Browsers: http://jsknow.angelfire.com/in...

If you think marijuana prohibition has anything to do with the imaginary, false, fabricated, alleged harms from using marijuana as a recreational drug, YOU HAVE BEEN DUPED!

Sunset Beach Surfer
Sunset Beach Surfer

 human greed thievery stupidity violence and guns took this mans life not medical marijuana. dont steal from others and you might just live to  see another day in life.

Maxonepercent
Maxonepercent

Here is a USA Today article about drug wars over medical marijuana:Criminals target medical marijuana Wash. shootout involving activist highlights risk to growers

SAN FRANCISCO - Patients, growers and clinics in some of the 14 states that allow medical marijuana are falling victim to robberies, home invasions, shootings and even murders at the hands of pot thieves.

There have been dozens of cases in recent months alone. The issue received more attention this week after a prominent medical marijuana activist in Washington state nearly killed a robber in a shootout — the eighth time thieves had targeted his pot-growing operation.

Critics say the heists and holdups prove that marijuana and crime are inseparable, though marijuana advocates contend that further legalization is the answer. News of crimes related to medical marijuana comes at an awkward time for California and Washington advocates who are pushing to pass ballot measures to allow all adults, not just the seriously ill, to possess the drug.

"Whenever you are dealing with drugs and money, there is going to be crime. If people think otherwise, they are very naive," said Scott Kirkland, the police chief in El Cerrito, Calif., and a vocal critic of his state's voter-approved medical marijuana law.

"People think if we decriminalize it, the Mexican cartels and Asian gangs are going to walk away. That's not the world I live in," Kirkland said.

Activists and law enforcement officials say it is difficult to get an accurate picture of crimes linked to medical marijuana because many drug users don't report the crimes to police for fear of arousing unwanted attention from the authorities. But the California Police Chiefs Association used press clippings to compile 52 medical marijuana-related crimes — including seven homicides — from April 2008 to March 2009.

There also is plenty of anecdotal evidence:

- A man in Washington state was beaten to death last week with what is believed to be a crowbar after confronting an intruder on the rural property where he was growing cannabis to treat painful back problems.- Medical marijuana activist Steve Sarich exchanged gunfire with intruders in his Kirkland, Wash., home near Seattle on Monday, shooting and critically injuring one of them.- In California, a boy was shot to death while allegedly trying to steal a cancer patient's pot plants from his home garden.- A respected magazine editor was killed in 2007 by robbers who targeted his Northern California home for marijuana and money after hearing that his teenage son was growing pot with a doctor's approval.- Robbers killed a security guard at a Los Angeles medical marijuana dispensary in 2008.

- Police and marijuana opponents say the violence is further proof that the proliferation of medical marijuana is a problem that will worsen if the drug is legalized or decriminalized.

Pot activists say the opposite: that prohibition breeds crime and legalization would solve the problem. They also say the robberies have exposed the need for more regulation of medical marijuana laws in states like California, Washington and Colorado.

Most medical marijuana states have only vague rules for caregivers or dispensaries participating in a business with products that can fetch $600 an ounce. Some states, including California and Colorado, can only guess how many pot dispensaries they have because the businesses don't have to register with the state.

"This is ridiculous, in my opinion, to have medical marijuana and no regulation," Stroup said. "A jewelry store wouldn't open without security, and if it did, a scuzzy person's going to break in and steal all their diamonds."

Stephen Gutwillig, California director of the pro-pot Drug Policy Alliance, said that while the robberies are disturbing, there is no way to conclude that legalized marijuana breeds any more crime than convenience stores, banks or homes stocked with expensive jewelry and electronics.

In fact, Denver police said the 25 robberies and burglaries targeting medical marijuana in the city in the last half of 2009 amounted to a lower crime rate than what banks or liquor stores there suffered.

"I think what we are seeing is a spate of crime that reflects the novelty of medical marijuana cultivation and distribution through unregulated means," Gutwillig said.

Marijuana is still illegal under federal law, but the Obama administration loosened its guidelines for prosecutions of medical pot last year. The Justice Department told federal prosecutors that targeting people who use or provide medical marijuana in strict compliance with state laws was not a good use of their time.

The decision energized the medical marijuana movement and came as Washington state and California are trying to get pot legalization measures on the ballot. Activists are still gathering signatures, and it's not yet known if the measures will qualify for the ballot.

Meanwhile, California cities have been trying to rein in the drug in response to a medical marijuana law that is the nation's most liberal.

Detective Robert Palacios of the Los Angeles Police Department said he has investigated a half-dozen dispensary robberies in the last year, but he has seen the number of such crimes drop in recent weeks after the City Council moved to close many stores.

In all the cases he's investigated, armed robbers have stolen marijuana, cash and other items. They often resell the drug on the street.

"They are going into a business and using a threat of force," Palacios said. "Even though they are in an establishment that itself is questionably legal, it's our duty to investigate."

maxonepercent
maxonepercent

Now that we have legalized medical marijuana we need to start getting used to this kind of violence surrounding pot dispensaries and pot growers.  In California the problem has become almost an epidemic.  Before all of you potheads start attacking me take a look at these articles for proof:

http://www.gazettenet.com/2010...

http://latimesblogs.latimes.co...

http://projects.latimes.com/ho...

http://www.freerepublic.com/fo...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35...

So much for the argument that legalizing marijuana will decrease crime.

Yourproductsucks
Yourproductsucks

These cancer patients seem awful ambulatory. This is a perfect example of trying to legitimize the illigitimate. This id an attempted drug rip gone bad, just like many others except this dealer has a marijuana card. His story that he was dispensing cannabis to another card carrier is bullshit and there is no one to corroborate his story but the dead guy with glaucoma.

seabourne
seabourne

It is time to "Change the Schedule of Cannabis, Cannabis Laws, and Drug Czar Laws"Sign the petition at

http://www.change.org/petition...

It is difficult to understand and believe Congress enacted a law requiring a government official to lie and to ignore science and medical studies. This renders the Office unreliable and a fraud. Though 68 - 84 % of this nation, depending on the poll, wants to legalize the medicinal use of cannabis, and science and medical studies have proven the therapeutic benefits and medicinal value of cannabis, we have been forced to live with outdated draconian laws. It is time to change this.

By law, the drug czar must oppose any attempt to legalize the use (in any form). Despite the science, medical studies and evidence of medical cannabis safety and effectiveness, despite the fact that the federal government supplies it to patients, despite the fact the Department of Health and Human Services holds patents on cannabinoids for the therapeutic benefits, US Patent 663057 titled "Cannabinoids as antioxidants and neuroprotectants" which is assigned to The United States of America, as represented by the Department of Health and Human Services) the drug czar is required by law to lie about it. Again, this renders the Office unreliable and a fraud.

words
words

Lots of misinformation. There is nothing in the law that states a patient can not sell to another patient. Only that you can not posses more than 2.5oz.

scornflakes
scornflakes

True, he was "diverting" to people for whom he was not the designated caregiver, and we don't know the quantity he was trying to sell.  So yeah, he probably done bad.  However, given that we don't yet have dispensaries (or even a process yet, thank you Jan and Tom) and not all qualified patients have either a caregiver or a green thumb, should he get the book thrown at him?  Or just a page or two?

Chris
Chris

Even if this guy got his card on April 15th when the patient program first started, there's no way he grew the cannabis he was selling.  It takes 3-4 months minimum to grow. So he was attempting to sell "black market" cannabis and he's not licensed as a caregiver.  Where by you can have up to 5 pre-designated patients under you.  Which these buyers clearly were not.  He's definitely going to be in trouble.

bobg
bobg

if coffee were prohibited there would be armed guards at starbucks.marijana isn't prohibited because it's inherently bad, it's bad because it's prohibited.Prohibition is the problem not the plant.

J Curwen
J Curwen

Thieves have always targeted pot dealers and consumers. The main change here is that the victims can now call the police and report the thefts without fear of arrest. Before this pot people would simply not report the crimes. Now they do report the crimes and while they don't get arrested, the cops try to use the situation against them by blaming the victims.

If it bleeds it leads.

Mistalee
Mistalee

Your post sucks.

Most cancer patients are ambulatory.

The would-be victim's story is that a man falsely claiming to be a medical cannabis card carrier attempted to rob him at gunpoint.

There is no mention of anyone involved having glaucoma. 

You are full of shit, from beginning to end.

Duncan20903
Duncan20903

It would be really great if people like  "Yourproductsucks" would stop spinning fiction from whole cloth in his posts. There's no restriction to cancer patients on their death bed, is irrelevent, and is only intended to be inflammatory to distract people from the truth.

The truth is that there are a significant number of people who suffer from chronic pain, and often don't appear to be sick. Another thing Know Nothings like "Yourproductsucks" like to do is to indict pain patients based on their age. One of the more frequent causes of chronic pain of men and women in their 20s was injury suffered in the line of duty in Iraq and Afghanistan. So "Yourproductsucks", tell us, why do you so hate the brave men and women who have served in our armed forces, and want to see them suffer in pain, then be arrested for trying to relieve that pain?

rsteeb
rsteeb

It is the prohibition of Cannabis that is illegitimate.  It shall not stand.

Witchwindy
Witchwindy

And people need to be reminded by whom and which party this office and mandate were created, since so many continue to blame the right side of the aisle.  The author of the bill that created the ONDCP and the office of drug czar with its mandate to lie (as described by you, seabourne) was none other than the current vice president of these united States of America, Joe Biden, democrat. 

Trommy Themulus
Trommy Themulus

You can do it in 60 days with certain strains you have no clue what you are talking about detective.

BudTender
BudTender

If you read the FULL PROPOSITION (now law), you'd know there was an "Affirmative Defense" that was in place before applications were being taken by AZDHS. This "went away" since program started. (NOTE - I would quote it, but I prefer that people attempt to EDUCATE themselves, in order to bring an educated comment to the topic, instead of a "Dudley Do RIght" who knows everything.)

SOooo....let me think. AZ Voters APPROVE Prop 203 on November 2. This unfortunate event happened June 2. If my math serves me correctly, that would be more then enough time to grow, harvest & cure some medicine. In fact a couple (more if you cloned ??) of harvest, as of the time of this specific incident. You may not believe me, but go do your homework first. The mmj in question would not have been "Black Market".

Also, I hate the title of this artice because it is VERY misleading. MEDICAL MARIJUANA DID NOT KILL THIS PERSON.BEING A THIEF GOT HIM KILLED. We are in the wild, wild west, so no one should think that this guy is going to advertise he's got mmj & not carry a firearm for protection is absolutely crazy. I'm NOT saying the "seller" was correct either. Guess we'll have to wait and see. A decision or NO decision could make things very interesting ; )

Yourproductsucks
Yourproductsucks

My scenario has as much supporting evidence as the suspect's story does.

Leo Haines
Leo Haines

Totally agree. Yet our VA Medical Centers hand out Narcotics like candy!! I Know, my wife is a Doctor. Bring in the Med. Marijuana, get rid of some of the obvious habit forming Narcs!! Right On!!

Love'em
Love'em

Oooo! He used the word "dichotomy!" He must be smart and we should all praise what he says!

Yourproductsucks
Yourproductsucks

It's amusing to watch a pothead try and formulate a logical argument. The dichotomy you use to bring finality to your rant reference "chronic" pain sufferers in their 20's is brilliant. Suggesting I hate veterans of war because I point out the irony of a pothead drug dealer killing a poor wretch in desperate need of pain management assistance and who instead catches a bullet with his face, is an incredible spin. Truth is, this case does not help your cause; not one bit. In fact, it flies in the face of the argument oft used by potheads that legalizing marijuana will curb violent crime. I thought potheads were docile and nonviolent...

Yourproductsucks
Yourproductsucks

Get a job and become a productive citizen Duncan. No one likes a "stay at home son" with the munchies.

Walter Concrete
Walter Concrete

You're right.    The "productsucks" writer is an instigator and provacateur of propaganda.   They're called internet trolls.   They pop up where an opportunity arises to spread hate, lies and to generally promote disinformation.   Most are paid by our lovely government.   

Guest23
Guest23

This will uhltimately change. The Usa cannot afford to continue jailing people for such a minor non-violent offense. The proliferation of states legalizing marijuana use and recent poll stats are evidence of this. Does your opinion stand on any relevant facts or are you just a blowhard?

Chris
Chris

Actually I do, you're assuming 60 days of flowering with no veg cycle. You can't flower a seed, and if he had a clone ready to go then he got it by not legal means. My assumptions were based on him following the rules.

Samkree
Samkree

hells angel az....me.....you.....ring,,your turf foo.....

shadeaux14
shadeaux14

Have to excuse HAA, he gits cranky when his thong rides up.

Guest23
Guest23

Hilarious, you lose the debate due to your refusal to acknowledge the logical fallacy within your logic and then resort to an ad hominem attack which is another logical fallacy. You have gone from ignorance to willfull ignorance which is stupidity.

Yourproductsucks
Yourproductsucks

You potheads have become boring to me. Puff puff pass, chronic pain victim with glaucoma.

Mistalee
Mistalee

Your scenario is not based on any of the facts of the case, which is why YourPostSucks.

Saying that your scenario is just as good because the shooter was a "shitbag murdering drug dealer" is simply using your conclusions to justify your assumptions, a circular argument. 

Employing circular reasoning is yet another reason why Your PostSucks.

Yourproductsucks
Yourproductsucks

Finally you may be catching on. My scenario holds the same weight as the shooter's story. All of it lies and bullshit.Why do you hitch your wagon to a shitbag murdering drug dealer?

Mistalee
Mistalee

No, your scenario is totally stupid made-up bullshit. Which is why your post sucks. 

Mikey1969
Mikey1969

"He told the drug dealer he had a card. What evidence is there that proves otherwise?"

RTFA, you idiotic jackass... If he'd HAD a card, the cops quoted in the article WOULD HAVE FUCKING SAID AS MUCH. Jesus, you give stupid a whole new meaning. As for name calling, you asked for it by seemingly getting stupider with each and every post, after awhile, people just get tired of dancing around the fact that you're a moron, just because they don't want to hurt your feelings. Sooner or later, you will need to  face the facts and accept that you are dumber than a bag of hammers...

Guest23
Guest23

After they smoked pot they become docile while they normally may be aggro. Another reason to allow its use since if they don't have mj they resort to alcohol which only magnifies their already volitile aggro nature. Have you ever tried mj or do you rely on second hand info? Do you consume or support alcohol consumption of which there is evidence that it is linked to more violent crimes than mj?

Mistalee
Mistalee

There is no indication that the robber had a card. He told the guy that he had a card but didn't have it on him as a pretext to lure him to the back of the complex and rob him.

Does not reading the fucking story make you feel better about yourself? Your lack of reading comprehension only makes you look stupid.

And that's why YourPostSucks.

Yourproductsucks
Yourproductsucks

He told the drug dealer he had a card. What evidence is there that proves otherwise?Does namecalling make you feel better about yourself? Losing your composure only makes you look stupid.

Mistalee
Mistalee

He wasn't, dickspit, he was a robber.  Goddamn, you are one ignorant motherfucker.

Yourproductsucks
Yourproductsucks

Why else would he be a card holding member of the cannabis club?

Mistalee
Mistalee

"because I point out the irony of a pothead drug dealer killing a poor wretch in desperate need of pain management assistance"

Your post sucks. There is no indication that the deceased attempted robber was in any need of pain management. Stop making shit up.

Guest23
Guest23

Usually it is trolls like yourself that still live with their mothers.

Duncan20903
Duncan20903

No, autoflowering varieties, 60 days from seed. Time to update your knowledge base, you're obviously out of date. Regardless, the law passed in November. http://www.seedsman.com/de/60-...

If you're going to stand on technicalities what's the procedure for obtaining seeds legally under Prop 203? If you're going to disregard that technicality then you can disregard the other flapdoodle that you've regurgitated. Totally petty old man, you're crying over something that will be totally irrelevant in less than 6 months. The really sad thing is that you're doing it in an attempt to blame the victim of an armed robbery. There was one perpetrator here, and he's been sent to his reward. This would be a much better world if more armed robbers were given their due on the spot. Are you really deluded enough to think that Mr. Miller wouldn't have robbed you, given the opportunity?  Oh right, I forgot, he was an altar boy singing in the church choir on Sunday before Prop 203 was passed and he was forced into a life of crime. Gosh, and he was the only alto tenor in the choir.

Get real Chris.

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