Morning Poll: Is Susan Brock the Only One to Blame for Sexual Abuse of Teenage Boy?

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Susan Brock's going to prison, but it seems others could have prevented some of the abuse of her teenage victim.
Susan Brock, wife of Maricopa County Supervisor Fulton Brock, was sentenced to 13 years in prison yesterday for the three-year sexual relationship she had with a teenage boy her family met through the Mormon Church.

The sentence is pretty stiff -- based on the crimes to which she pleaded guilty (as opposed to the crimes with which she was initially charged).

Sentencing guidelines allowed Judge Robert Olson to sentence Brock to as few as seven years in prison. However, he could have sentenced her to 15.

As we mentioned yesterday, it could be argued that Brock's not the only one who could have prevented the abuse of the boy -- for at least a year, anyway.

In October 2009 -- more than a year before Brock's arrest -- a meeting was held between Mormon Church officials, Susan and Fulton Brock, and the parents of the victim. The purpose for the meeting: to discuss suspicions the victim's parents had that Susan Brock was sleeping with their son.

Brock denied the relationship, but suspicion was there -- and Fulton Brock, the Mormon Church, and the victim's parents knew it. Yet, these adults opted to confront the issue in-house, instead of calling the cops.

And let's not forget the victim's school. His parents' concerns got to the point that they told the school not to allow Brock to pick up their son anymore, and the principal of the school even told the county supervisor's wife that if she stepped foot on school property, he would call police.

Yet it wasn't until the victim's teenage girlfriend became aware of the relationship that authorities were contacted by anyone.

We want to know what you think: Mrs. Brock's the only one going to prison, but could others have prevented at least some of the abuse?

Cast your vote below.


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None Ya! or Kick"A"mom
None Ya! or Kick"A"mom

I'd like to offer very valuable feed back for anyone who likes to read!! I've been writing on some other of these events reported in this paper. Some entries I recently wrote are comments within the page for a recent news on the 7th of April about a perv arrested in Mesa. More specifically it would be found under the title: Mesa Perv Vedio-taped himself Molesting 1 yr old -- and Others -- Cops say... It's by James King and it was in the Thursday edition. It's under the category of Perv Alert. (I'm under: None Ya! or Kick"A"mom as a given name for these... Just for fun!)

Yet I also wrote an entry about my situation using my real name that time, under an article about Reverand Oscar Tillman where some fiasco discribed in that article lead to my wanting to put my two cents in. It is about the Tempe Police in part and since that entry where he is mentioned does cover some stuff that involves them too, I had to say something!! That's all the way at the bottom of the comment page on that one! (look for: AZ Republic Blogger/ Former cop Axed by Newspaper Under Pressure from NAACP at the bottom of the option's page and that'll come once you've googled Reverand Tillman and clicked on the third subtitle w/ his name...)

For those who may wonder what these are about?! A hint: the Mormons with their pedophiles and these not just "women"... as well as all their power in Governement (this including all their many hands here in the State of AZ) have facilitaded the destruction of my children's lives before and with a return in the midst of such a family... incest; pedophilia; drugs; satanism etc!! Its' amazing that the courts had Child Perpatrator (that's their new name!) Services "look" into it and they actually had a Satanist as a case worker! That's right!!!!!! If not, then she at least knew what was used by my ex in his carrying out of the fear tactics on my youngest! So! They not only have (for some) fellons w/in their branches (C.P.S.) but they encourage the fiascos that take place by participating in the threats against the victims they collect from the good parent (as in my case) and this, people, took place right in front of me!!! I'm the ex to the "dad"/mormon pedo/once victim too/ etc... and the system had (and would still if I had money for these) me supervised while they live with a dangerous father figure!!! How about that huh?!! So sad and sick!!! It's a world upside down and the courts are not on the right side on this one... 'cause... too many of them are of that church group? (Mesa Courts) Or paid by 'em? Or maybe threatened...?!! Who knows?! That's me posing some very ligit questions after a cover up that has gone on for: 2 yrs shy of a decade!!!

There's more in those entries if you're interested!... Look 'em up!!

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To: James King, re.13-1405
To: James King, re.13-1405

JK,

I voted "No" on this one because I do believe that over two years time the 13 year old certainly had ample opportunity to "drop dime" on his paramour.

By biological definition, a 13 year old boy is a child; by Natural construction, a 13 year old boy can produce semen and ostensibly create human life, and therefore, he is sexually compatable with a female for that purpose.

I can also guaran-goddamn-tee you that the porn shots on this kids videophone of Rachel with finger-in-poon that he showed to his school homies made him the baddest motherfucker in 8th. grade. - and no doubt made the shitter-stalls in the boys room a very popular place during recess.

Was Susan's sentence too harsh ?In my opinion it was. According to a lady I know, her daughter was "forced" to sex up with a 19 year old classmate of the daughter's older sister. For this rape the 19 year old did maybe 6 months in custody and got ten years probation. And that's all.

In your "Brock" story from the other day, I wrote to you on AZ. Revised Statute 13-1405-B, which states in part that the State indeed differentiates between sexual contact by adults and minors below age 15 and above age 15. An adult sexing someone under 15 is a Class II felony. An adult sexing someone between 15 & 18 is a Class VI felony... However, IF THE ADULT IS THE PARENT OF THE CHILD 15 TO 18 Y.O., THEN THAT FACT ELEVATES THE CRIME BACK TO CLASS II STATUS, DUE TO THE BETRAYAL FACTOR INVOLVED.I find this Statutory rule quite reasonable, all things considered.

Steve Tracy of Phx.

Older Women
Older Women

older women are better lovers. a song from dead country music star conway twitty. a song heard on country music radio back in the 1960s. we have gone backwards in this country. we were more open minded back then than now.

ExpertShot
ExpertShot

Here's a pretty good explaination of the law that compels Brock to report the abuse or face criminal charges (LOL)!.

ARIZONA’S CHILD ABUSE REPORTING STATUTE –AN EDUCATOR’S GUIDE TO A COMPLEX LAW

Copyright 2004byA. Dean Pickett, Esq.MANGUM, WALL, STOOPS& WARDEN, P.L.L.C.100 North Elden StreetPost Office Box 10Flagstaff, Arizona 86002-0010928-779-6951

This publication is designed to provide accurate and authoritative general information in regard to the subject matter covered. It is provided with the understanding that the Arizona School Boards Association and the author, in presenting the information contained in this publication, are not engaged in rendering legal advice or other professional service. If legal advice or other expert assistance is required in connection with a specific situation or incident, the services of a competent professional person should be sought.

Ride The Snake
Ride The Snake

THE WORLDS MOST DANGEROUS SNAKE..... { ERECTUS TROUSERIUS } OR THE TROUSER SNAKE is the worlds most dangerous snake....colors may vary from pink to black. its fangless, average length is 5 to 6 inches,although some are rumored to reach 8 or more inches. {depending on the honesty of the owner} it usually appears in bedrooms and attacks women in the mouth,lower abdominal area and sometimes the butt. its highly venomous spit can cause swelling that can last 9 months. infection can occur if proper protection is not worn while handling. sometimes mutant species have been known to attack men from behind.

DB COOPER
DB COOPER

I had sex with a very nice looking 36 year old women when i was 15 and i loved it. of course that was back in the 1970s free love hippie days. we looked at sex like that different back then. it was just another day to me and I was not mentally harmed by it at all. I wanted more of her.

Tommy Collins
Tommy Collins

It sure seems to me the Church members should have turned the information over to the professionals (CPD) for an investigation. I would imagine that Susan Brock quoted some passages as she adamantly denied having sexual contact with this boy. That, of course, would mean she was being truthful. Hmmmm.... not really. It would just mean she is a religious liar by convenience.

It appears to me that a year of 'victimization' followed the meeting with the church folks. I think the parents of the victim and the church members near to take responsibility, as well as all the Brocks.....

I honestly think if the victim had been a 13 year old girl this would have gone to the police before the church...

I won't be at all surprised to see that Chandler P.D. has arrested or issued summonses to Mr. Brock and they church members for failure to report the crime.

It will really depend on whether the MCAO has the gumption to take on the Brocks and the Church...

I am also expecting an announcement by the senate president that, in spite of her pleading guilty, Susan Brock was actually the victim.

ExpertShot
ExpertShot

It's a violation of the law not to report suspected abuse - New Times, can't you look that up and find the reference and ask the questions about why aren't the school officials, mormon church mucky mucks and Mr. Brock himself why they didn't report the suspected abuse - AS REQUIRED BY LAW! Illegal is Illegal - what don't you understand about the word ILLEGAL!!!!

Oh, damit - here I'll do it for you - (A.R.S.) Section 13-3620

And here (after a whole 5 second internet search) is a good explanation for you to read:

As with failure to make a mandatory report of child abuse, criminal sanctions apply here as well. A.R.S. § 46-454(J) provides that a person who fails to make a report required under this statute is guilty of a class 1 misdemeanor. Presumably a failure to fulfill this statutory requirement would constitute grounds for sanctions against an educator’s certificate and for employee discipline as well, and could result in civil liability if a failure to report could be found to have led to later injury that could have been prevented if past abuse was reported.

The mandatory reporting provisions of Paragraph A list twenty categories of persons who have a legal mandate to “report or cause reports to be made” of a "reasonable belief" that abuse has occurred [see What Conduct Must Be Reported, below]. 2003 amendments to § 13-3620 now separate required reporters into two categories: (1) persons who develop their "reasonable belief" only in the course of their duties, and (2) persons who develop their "reasonable belief" from any source. With emphasis on categories that are most likely to include educators and school support staff, that list is:

Must Report Based on a Reasonable Belief Developed in the Course of –

1. Employmenta. School Personnel (this term is not further defined, so must be read broadly) b. Domestic Violence Victim Advocates 2. Treating Any Patient (the Minor or Another Person, e.g., a Parent) a. Nurseb. Counselorc. Psychologistd. Social Workere. Behavioral Health Professionalf. Physician g. Physician's Assistanth. Optometrist i. Dentistj. Osteopathk. Chiropractorl. Podiatrist Must Report Based on a Reasonable Belief Developed From Any Source

1. Peace Officer (this could include a School Resource Officer if a certified member of a recognized police agency)2. Any Other Person Who Has Responsibility for the Care or Treatment of the Minor3. Parent, Stepparent or Guardian of the minor believed to have been abused4. Member of the Clergy5. Priest 6. Christian Science Practitioner

Jas_3825
Jas_3825

I like his dads emotional testimony. Too bad he wasn't getting the pleasure. I'd hi five my son at 15 or 16 if this chick was taken care of him. He'd be with someone anyway at that age. Not that it was right but I think the sentence was a little harsh. BUT if it were my daughter in the the same situation then probably my hi five would come out of the end of a barrel. Oh the trauma a good looking older women taken care of me after school.

Johnny White Man
Johnny White Man

Having Fulton B. resigning from his post isn't good enough. He should join his wife and daughter(or his family) behind bars. He shouldn't get away with this crime because he is known to suck-up to arpaio.

KKKuff that hypocrite.

Steve Tracy
Steve Tracy

That's some good shit, Homie.You should write professionally !!!!

Gaba Goo
Gaba Goo

im sure you a real nice swell guy but you think way to much about and make a bigger deal out of things than they are. your a drama man tommy.

steve
steve

Great job, but there is one problem, this statue is for vulnerable adults.

46-454. Duty to report abuse, neglect and exploitation of vulnerable adults; duty to make medical records available; violation; classification

Lover Boy
Lover Boy

the teen boys of today are alot more soft and sissified and mentally different than back in the days of rock band Van Halens song { too hot for teacher} days. back then teenage boys wanted sex with older teachers and women. now days they get lucky and get actual sex from an older teacher or women and they call 911 and rat them out to their parents and cops. todays young men are not cut from the same piece of cloth as us males brought up in the 1950s,60s,and 70s generation. back then we wanted all the sex we could get. and we sure would not ever call the cops on the women and you never told your parents! this story is further proof of the Pussafacation of the American male. 16 year old blond movie star Bo Derek married a guy atleast 30 years older than herself and she is still doing well today. young male teenagers today are wimps, snitches and are weak psychically and mentally.

Lover Boy
Lover Boy

I know a few rich older good looking horny women in Scottsdale and Paradise Valley. they are out there if you know where to look.

Adrian Cruz
Adrian Cruz

Between Susan, the daughter and his girlfriend, this kid was getting more 'Tang than the astronauts.

steve
steve

dont forget that he had already been getting busy with an older girl that was willing to play dirty.

Offensive Brute
Offensive Brute

after all the kid boy teenager kept going back for more BJs on his own free will. no one forced him into getting a BJ. it was offered to him and he went for it. most normal teenage boys would to if free BJs were offered.

Ride The Snake
Ride The Snake

Thanks Steve Tracy, I already do write professionally. I am well known stand up comic and script writer who lives in Cave Creek, Arizona. most dont know I live here. I keep my life on the down low. I have also done writing for Hollywood comedy movie scripts. Thanks Steve.

ExpertShot
ExpertShot

Steve writes: ". . . this statue is for vulnerable adults."

Please read the post before responding.

"As with failure to make a mandatory report of child abuse, . . . "

the info was a small attempt to get the reporter, James King, to do a little more research on the subject and let the public know. It was not meant as an exhaustive listing of all the statutes regarding this matter (there are over 26).

Otis
Otis

its real simple, dirty slutty girls and women are what heterosexual males want.

Anonymous
Anonymous

Steve and I differ in our opinions of your crafty writings as I see clearly you do more than just talk about where you live in saying "cave creek" but you also play the role of one who visits just about any kind of cave between the creeks and you sound like a no good son of a... You're a repulse... to the normal...

Anonymous

Steve Tracy
Steve Tracy

A stand-up wise guy ? No surprise there.I grew up in Los Angeles and know Hollywood well. That you keep on the QT is no surprise either. I've never been a big movie or TV fan, but I do appreciate classic style comedy like "Ride The Snake". In a world where funny can be hard to find, your entry here is XLNT.

S.T. of P.

ExpertShot
ExpertShot

Yes - that's the part that makes it okay for Islamists to practice shariah law!

steve
steve

and did you read this part also :A member of the clergy, christian science practitioner or priest who has received a confidential communication or a confession in that person's role as a member of the clergy, christian science practitioner or a priest in the course of the discipline enjoined by the church to which the member of the clergy, christian science practitioner or priest belongs may withhold reporting of the communication or confession if the member of the clergy, christian science practitioner or priest determines that it is reasonable and necessary within the concepts of the religion. This exemption applies only to the communication or confession and not to personal observations the member of the clergy, christian science practitioner or priest may otherwise make of the minor. For the purposes of this subsection, "person" means:

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