Joel Fox's Lawsuit Over "Zorro" E-Mails Covered by Arizona Republic, but Paper Doesn't Mention "Love" Angle of E-Mails

 

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The Arizona Republic ran an article today about Captain Joel Fox's lawsuit against Terry Goddard and Cox Communications over the public release of sensitive e-mails.

The story by Repub veteran JJ Hensley, though, fails to mention one thing:

The e-mails' gushy love talk between Fox and his supervisor, Larry Black, which are undoubtedly the motivation behind the suit. (See our article from Friday about the lawsuit.)

We put in a call to the paper's editor, Randy Lovely, to find out what happened. It seems safe to assume the omission was made after a discussion by editors, but it's unclear why the final decision shortchanged readers. Would the Repub have decided differently if one of the pair had been a woman?

Sure, the intense expression of man-love between Fox and Black is personal stuff, but it's well within the scope of the SCA scandal, as we've explained.

The pair spoke of their love as they carried out what state and federal investigators saw as a criminal conspiracy; some of the "Zorro" e-mails, ("jdzorro" was the e-mail name used by Fox), mention the SCA scheme and their love for each other in the same body of text. 

Investigators didn't examine all of Fox's e-mails or put them all in their report. They only bring up e-mails they found noteworthy in light of their investigation, and those -- obviously -- includes the love letters.

 


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Joel
Joel

Gerry, the lawsuits are about invalid search warrants and exceeding the authority of a search warrant. Those search warrants happen to deal with emails, but it really doesn't matter what they deal with. The lawsuit was filed on the very day Stern decided to have his fun. I've studied a lot and practiced a lot, but I'm not at all good enough at this lawyer stuff to whip out a lawsuit and file it in one afternoon.

Richard, as the AZ Rep article states, I didn't say anything to them prior to their article. I know better than to ask anything of local media.

Johnny, I agree.

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Joel
Joel

Tommy, why are you so preoccupied with my sexual habits? You spend hours reading about it, commenting about it, and conversing about it with your friends...don't you have a life of your own?

It is truly sad that you cannot understand love except when it involves sex. You must not have ever placed your life in the hands of another, or taken responsibility for another man's life. Trust issues, perhaps?

Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second [is] like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets. Matthew 22:37-40

I'm no prophet, but I'm pretty sure the ideal expressed here isn't to only love your female neighbors and then only if you want to have sex with them. Maybe that's how you look at it. I don't.

Maybe you don't put any credence into the red letters...ok....how about John Lennon? "All you need is Love, Love, Love"...how about Ghandi?..."A coward is incapable of exhibiting love, it is the prerogative of the brave"...Nelson Mandela, maybe? "No one is born hating another person because of the color of his skin, or his background, or his religion. People must learn to hate, and if they can learn to hate, they can be taught to love, for love comes more naturally to the human heart than its opposite."

According to you, I suppose, these great men were only talking about loving women and then only in the sense that it assists them in satisfying their sexual urges. Or maybe it's just that you are afraid of the word "Love" because you are so afraid of being judged by small minded homophobes with nothing better to do with their day than speculate on what you must've meant and what you must've done and how disgusting it is.

Sad....truly sad.

Jesterjackson
Jesterjackson

I am a native of Arizona. Once I discovered the New Times at 17 years old I quit trusting what the Arizona Republic/Phoenix Gazette printed. It was the New Times that first told us what Governor Symington was up to, the Republic investigated nothing on its own. The New Times for years and years, has been investigating and reporting on Arpaio's corrupt ways. The Republic until recently still kissed his ass. Look at Phill Gordon, PLEA , Russell Pearce etc, story after story from the New Times. From the Arizona Republic nothing. The Arizona Republic is a milquetoast sort of newspaper. I hate them.

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GENO
GENO

This is why New Times kicks ass. They are able to [quote] "Tell it like it is" [unquote]. And fully inform the mass public without hestitation. While all the other news outlets "shortchanges" the gullible audience, only to leave them in the dark to wander about. I am disappointed at the Republic for their half-assed piece. New Times is the place to be.

Heretofore, when it comes to a "Love" expressed between 2 men. As a heteosexual male myself, I don't think I could ever "Love" another man, as much as Mr. Faux can. That kind of "Love" is reserved for women. And Larry Black is certainly not a woman. These guys are overstepping the bounds of KKKonservativism. They can either choose to be a bunch of hypocrites, or better yet, just call themselves "Liberals" for all I care.............

And btw, I'm not a "Liberal".

Ray Stern
Ray Stern

Joel Fox, if that's really you, can you give us any idea why your statements to investigators contradicted that of Larry Black's and others?

You used to argue that you wouldn't release the SCA donors' names because you wanted to protect them. Isn't Larry the one you really want to protect?

Can you tell us more about the e-mail you wrote to Black on 8-17-07, which states, "I'm assuming the reelection site would be on electsheriffjoe ... or do you want it on one of the others?" There were a whole bunch of domain names mentioned -- which one did Larry decide to put the reelection site on? Or did Hendershott decide that?

Also wondering about your e-mail that says "And yes, I am smart enough to use a personal computer to send e-mails from, so there is no record, other than my own computer, which doesn't really exist."

As far as your relationship with Larry, what did you mean when you said that during your trips to Louisiana "and the many hours you and I had alone together, I gave you everything I had," and also by the statement "Do you know why LA was so much for for you? Because you felt secure. You were secure in what you were doing, and you were secure in our relationship."

If you found an e-mail like this from one your subordinates who went on a work trip with another MCSO employee, would you be suspicious of an inappropriate work relationship, or do you expect your subordinates to also strive for this level of "love" between each other?

Thanks for considering these questions.

Sincerely,

Ray Stern

Guest
Guest

You wrote that your wife had PMS all the time and you talked about her in a disgusting manner. You " dropped a load" in her so she's purring like a kitten? Let's hear your bible verse response to that?Using your religion as excuses for your behavior is a sin. You twist the truth nonstop. I will pray for your wife, not you.I bet you lie to her nonstop in the name of God.

Johnny White Man
Johnny White Man

But you forget to bear in mind that the Holy Bible also strongly condemns gay relationships. It is a forbidden taboo that men should refrain from. Sure you can love a man neighbor like a buddy, but you shouldn't love him more than your wife and Jesus Christ.

Richard
Richard

Joel,So funny that you wanna get all Biblical in this blog to explain the type of "Love" you were talking about. I kinnda see your love like the love with David and Jonathan in the Bible.

Just curious? when the AZ Republic called you for comment, did you ask them not to put that part in?

Gerry_C
Gerry_C

Joel,

If it is all on the up and up...then why have you sued over family trauma or something like that. Why sue at all because these loving emails were released? What harm has come to your family if you are just loving your boss in a way like I love Christ?

J Curwen
J Curwen

I always tell newcomers to the area that The New Times is where one goes to get the real dirt. The Republic is fine for fluff pieces, and OK for national news, but if you want the real scoop, you need to read NT.

Tommy Collins
Tommy Collins

Geno, I was talking with a friend this morning about the 'man love' emails between Fox and Black. We both are a bit confused by the language of the emails and honestly, if we don't know they were both guys we would have assumed one was a female. It doesn't make sense to me and I simply don't have the ability to understand how a man can 'love' a guy friend more than his wife... which seemed to be the implication. But, to his credit Mr. Fox never outwardly denied a conjugal relationship... at least that I have read as of today.

Again, I honestly don't care if they have a very special relationship. But I would expect their families to have concerns.

Joel
Joel

You, like some others, have already made up your mind and are now only interested in whatever you can find to support your already foregone conclusions...and you have already said that you won't believe anything I have to say...

so why ask me anything?

All of your answers are within the report, anyway. Just read it. If you don't mind looking at the parts that don't support your foregone conclusions, you'll be able to answer them yourself. It's a big chunk of the papers, I know, but you owe it to your readers to be honest.

Why don't you answer some questions for a change?

What do you have against love? Are you just afraid to say the word, or are you really so closed off from the world that you care about no one but yourself? Don't you think the one thing we could all use a little bit more of is love? Do you think any of this county infighting or immigration problems or any of the other millions of problems we all face would still be there if we could only figure out how to love each other? What makes you so filled with spite and revenge? Why can't you love more?

GENO
GENO

T.C.All I can say for now, is that this was made perfectly clear to you about the nexus of that bizarre "man-love" between Mr. Faux and Black. Especially if the man hasn't officially "denied" his (ahem).."Love" for Black. Based on the emails revealed therein the SCA reports. I don't see any mentioning of a woman/female in those exchanges, do you? There was referrences to gay films and other faggotry subjects. So the latter seems obvious.Therefore, the Republic hasn't the galls to report it. So the New Times gets to take home the prize on this one.

Guest
Guest

You are so full of garbage. You are a nonstop BSer that is what you are. Are you so twisted mentally that you believe this nonsense that you wrote? And I didn't have my mind made up- I have just been following this story and you contradict yourself and lie nonstop. Does your wife buy this garbage about man-love? Two " friends only, men or women, do NOT write like this to each other. It's not about fear of love and for you to be saying that is just ridiculous. Anyone who is intelligent can see through your fabricated stories that you've made up. You would have been better off ignoring all of this and staying above it. Now your contradictions and pure BS are in black and white. You clearly don't have enough personal insight to understand what you are doing. All of the contradictory statements prove you are lying about SCA, Black and more. You are making your situation worse. Does your lawyer know you write on all these sites?

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