Secret Recording Reveals Strategy and "Fun" at Sheriff Joe Arpaio's Staff Meeting in '09

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If you read only part of the four large PDFs from the SCA investigative report we posted last night, make sure it's the 65-page transcript of Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio's July 27, 2009 staff meeting.


We mentioned a couple of the amusing parts of the transcript in posts this morning, but the rest of it is just rich. You're a fly on the wall in a fun-filled strategy meeting as Arpaio's command staff cracks wise and manages their political games. It's not just a hectic time for these uber-political law officers -- "we are at full thermonuclear -- the missiles have launched," according to David Hendershott. "We're taking incoming, they're taking incoming, and there's no turning back."


 At the time of the meeting, Arpaio's office was neck deep in the SCA money-laundering scandal, the racial-profiling lawsuit by the ACLU, the fight with county leaders and many other problems that will sound familiar to county observers.


As they plan, Arpaio and his commanders dish on everyone from former County Attorney Andrew Thomas ("idiot," says Hendershott) to Terry Goddard ("dickhead," says Director Larry Black) to County Manager David Smith ("gonna choke him till he dies," says Hendershott) to former county attorney Rick Romley, (a "nutcase," says Arpaio.)


The transcript starts on page 54 of the fourth PDF, which is 153 pages long. It opens with Frank Munnell, author of the legendary Munnell Memo that surfaced last year, chatting with fellow staffers as his hidden recorder rolls. 

Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio

Not everyone has arrived yet, and Munnell complains about being drawn into the firestorm erupting over the SCA scandal.


Chief Scott Freeman states that Hendershott asked him to donate to the SCA fund as Black probes him. To us, that's more evidence that Hendershott was intimately involved with the SCA from the get-go, despite Captain Joel Fox's claim that "it was my idea, my fund, and my decision of how to spend it." As we mentioned yesterday, Hendershott also met with Karen Osborne, director of county elections, to discuss how corporate donations worked. Some of the fat cats who donated to the fund used their corporate accounts.

Freeman tells Munnell that Hendershott told him the money wouldn't be used for Arpaio's re-election campaign, but rather to help deputies. That's the same BS story Fox has been dragging around town for the last couple of years -- we sure don't buy it. Munnell tells Freeman that's not what Hendershott told him, implying Hendershott was more direct about the money aiding Arpaio.

It seems like both Freeman and Director Larry Black, who comes to the meeting later, suspect that Munnell is taping. That would make sense, because everyone knew Munnell was pissed and helping the federal and state investigators. (Munnell's wife actually called Hendershott to let him know her husband was ratting everyone out, according to the report.)

Lisa Allen, the sheriff's spokeswoman, was told by Larry Black to erase anything related to the ad funded by the SCA, according to Munnell. It was a case of "witness tampering," Munnell tells Freeman.

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Lisa Allen

When Allen comes into the room, Munnell asks her if she got rid of everything like Black told her to.

"Yeah," she replies.

Allen goes on to say that she only removed "two things from Larry that had nothing to do with nothing."

But when Munnell presses her, she admits the items were related to the "whole campaign."

When Black shows up at the meeting, things begin to get interesting. As Munnell mentioned in his memo, Black becomes furious at Munnell for raising questions about the SCA scheme.

"Okay, Frank, I won't put you through that fucking wall right now because we're up here. You want to take care of it downstairs I got no problem with it," Black says.

"Go ahead and threaten, go ahead and threaten me," Munnell tells him.

"You, you piece of shit."

"Don't call me a piece of shit."

"Yeah, piece of shit."

Then Black spurts out that releasing the names of the SCA donors, which the sheriff's office was still hiding at the time, would be a felony. That's really quite a joke, we think, considering that the county was preparing to fine Joel Fox $315,000 for not producing the donors' names.

Black's cover story seems to be weakened, however, when he tells Munnell that he wasn't told everything "because it was better for you not to be involved." Gee, sounds like Black's talking about a black-ops mission or something. But why would it be better if Munnell wasn't so "involved" if this campaign fund was on the up-and-up?

Finally, the Big Boss rolls in. And he seems to know what his lines are supposed to be. When Munnell tells him he was talking about that "stupid fund thing," Arpaio responds curtly.

"You didn't donate to me," Arpaio says.

Munnell says the donation was to "support" Arpaio.

"That's bullshit," says Arpaio. "I don't know nothing about this shit."

Black tells Munnell that the sheriff's office would have "done this ad" (referring to the salacious Dan Saban ad funded by the SCA) whether we had got the money or not."

When someone else joins the meeting, Munnell tells the new person that he's been chatting with "the biggest liar on the planet," an apparent reference to Black.

The meeting begins in earnest. It's clear that Arpaio is no dottering old fool -- he's deeply involved in the strategy and knows what's going on. Hendershott acts as his consigliere, filling in bits of knowledge about the law and minutiae of the county feud. They cover a smorgasbord of issues.

Randomly, talk turns to a Desert Eagle .50-caliber, semi-auto handgun Hendershott has brought to the meeting. Arpaio later jokes that Hendershott might need it to protect himself from County Manager David Smith, because Hendershott filed a bar complaint against Smith.

Hendershott says he thinks some correspondence between Smith and some lawyers will be the county manager's undoing: "...we have him right there and we're going to choke him till he dies."

"The rate you're going he could die tomorrow," Arpaio says.

Arpaio gives a pep talk about how long he's been around, and how everyone needs to face the current challenges -- and have fun, too.

"So, um, we'll give them the fight. We'll have some fun. You having fun, David?" Arpaio asks his chief deputy.

"I hate to admit it, but yes," Hendershott answers.

The group reminisces about how the feud with the county started -- it was former Attorney General Terry Goddard's fault for handling the case against former state treasurer David Petersen, they conclude.

Then-county attorney Andrew Thomas has been "hiding under his desk" lately, says Hendershott.

Black throws out a funny line, saying that if Arpaio's office was too quiet, the public might accuse the office of being too much like the movie, "Weekend at Bernie's."

There's more talk about Thomas' political strategies, which Arpaio's advisors say consist of avoiding Arpaio.

Hendershott predicts that then-schools superintendent Tom Horne will get "wiped out" before the 2010 election because of some scandal, (which turned out to be no big deal.)

"Corn?" Arpaio asks, ever the wise guy.

The laughs continue as the group talks about the Shangri-la nudist resort in the north Valley and how one might go about spying on a girl in a hotel room, as an ESPN reporter was spied on the week before the staff meeting.

We've already written about Arpaio talking about sheep.

The transcript would be just plain hilarious -- except for whiff of corruption.

As the rest of the PDF documents show, federal agents investigated the sheriff's office along with the AG's office under Goddard. Horne's office told us today that it was deferring the case entirely to the feds.

It'll be fascinating to see who gets the last laugh.


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Coz
Coz

That sure like conspiracy to me....!

>>When Allen comes into the room, Munnell asks her if she got rid of everything like Black told her to."Yeah," she replies.Allen goes on to say that she only removed "two things from Larry that had nothing to do with nothing."But when Munnell presses her, she admits the items were related to the "whole campaign."

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Down Range
Down Range

Babeu has issue of his own personal conduct. One Tom-a-hawk cruise missile with Babeu's name is in bound.

wtf
wtf

just when you thought you heard everything!!!...God I wish Pearce (Pig) was somehow involved in all this mess...

MR. STERN!!!!....PLEASE PLEASE MAKE AN ENTIRE REPORT OF ALL THE IMPORTANT THINGS FROM THIS DOCUMENTS FOR THE WEEKLY EDITION AND PRINT 1000 EXTRA FOR THE FOLKS IN SUN CITY!!! it's hard to keep up with all the daily reports you've been giving us it'd be better if the important stuff was printed on the Thursday edition

"OH yEAH Where The FUcK Are thosE sTUpiD "West cl'ASS' AssoCIates"??????

XSoldier
XSoldier

I agree. Pearce is a rogue, corrupt and dangerous politician who seeks only to benefit himself, the Flaccid Fool, and Buffoon at the expense and rights of taxpaying American citizens. Pearce represents the city of Mesa and even our mayor here kicked his sorry ass across the Valley for his bullshit legislation.

Gerry_C
Gerry_C

Need a sister publication called the "Silver Hair Times."

Stacy
Stacy

Holy Crap! I hear that Frank Munnell was wire-tapped. That's how the recordings took place! Wow.. this shit has the makings of a movie.

Gerry_C
Gerry_C

What do you mean "wire-tapped?"

wherewasi
wherewasi

Yes. It will be called The Rise and Fall of the Arpaio Empire.

XSoldier
XSoldier

Aufstieg und fall der Arpaio Reich.......

Former Republican
Former Republican

Now to add to all this mess, remember people that AARON BROWN, the former "security director" for the Sheriff who has recently been reassigned to court security made a HALF MILLION DOLLARS last year arranging "security" for the...eh....drumroll...FIESTA BOWL. Arranging for deputies, doing billings, etc. All from the nice little office on the 19th Floor of the Wells Fargo Bldg.Arizona Republic states that emails have been obtained (many of them) between Brown and the Fiesta Bowl CEO at the time John Junker with info about security assignments.Now Junker is on paid leave and the contract that was so lucrative last year for AARON BROWN (Blue Steel Consulting) has been terminated.Arpihole AND Henderfatt KNEW Brown was working the Blue Steel Consulting job from his MCSO desk and computer. Many of the deputies were on the Blue Steel payroll. Hendershott was likely getting a portion of the take.And these assholes are trying to charge other people with crimes?This is getting REVOLTING.

Coz
Coz

Getting ?The corruption they all represent has been for years.

The lights have been turned on and look at the MCSO cockroaches scatter.

Tommy Collins
Tommy Collins

It occurs to me this is the perfect escape mechanism for Babeu. He can now release a condemning report with recommendations for termination of employment of many members of the MCSO command staff, and always point back to this 'investigative' report as being the break point. "Sorry, FF, I had no choice after the staff meeting recording was released."

Some of the incredible suck-asses obviously didn't have to work their way to being part of the command staff....

It could have been called, "The I Love Joe Show"...

Disgusting...

Gerry_C
Gerry_C

Any chance that Babeu's report points at Arpaio? Or was that outside the scope of his investigation?

Tommy Collins
Tommy Collins

Gerry, you make a good point. I think the initial request for investigation was primarily into the behavior of Hendershott, Fox and Black. From what I recall of the Munnell memo he seemed to spend a lot of time suggesting that the old goat knew nothing.... which I think we can agree is pretty much hogwash. That said, any complete and objective investigation should have resulted in 'spin-off' charges that likely would include the Flaccid Fool. In fact, I would expect that someone along the line has rolled on the Wrinkled Winkle and actually provided evidence or testimony that he knew everything and was behind everything.

Will Babeu actually put the finger on the MCSO shurf? Not if there's any way he can spin it on someone else.... in my opinion....

XSoldier
XSoldier

I wonder if Buffoon hasn't released that report the Old Fool asked for because Buffoon's reviewing the PDF's.

Then again, reviewing those PDF's could be bad for the FF's clone. Hendy could send 100 officers and SWAT to arrest him for reading those PDF's.....Just like the cockfighting bust the Old Fool made.

Coz
Coz

Getting promoted to Bozo Joe's Command Staff has nothing to do with working you're way up by experience, ethic's or morals...it's all about how corrupt you are and how willing you are to keep your mouth shut about the corruption.

Deniseaz
Deniseaz

if any one otehr t han an MCSO had the links on thier computer , ( yea some real bad ones ) they would have ben in jail in a flash , but when iti s on an computer , that the reistary is to the MCSO , and an employee wentthere , iti sll good and fine , on page 121 they list the websites that was found on the computer Fox had in his home , many others would have been to the roaster and fried on those sites ,or up the tent city for years ,, why not Fox ???

Tommy Collins
Tommy Collins

Incredible.... I suppose after reading the transcript the MCSO command staff will now understand the concept of conspiracy.

Unless Horne has an understanding that the SCA debacle is going to be lumped with other Federal charges he needs to go forward with state charges, immediately.

It seems very transparent that there was very clear intent to use the funds to support the shurf...

XSoldier
XSoldier

Only to get him re-elected. And then lie to the taxpayers about it.

XSoldier
XSoldier

Don't forget our mentally unstable and delusional former county attorney, Candy Asshole Thomas.

Former Republican
Former Republican

If I were David Smith, the County Manager, I'd do something about the comments and veiled threats made by Hendershott and Arpaio.Typical behavior for a bunch of unschooled, classless morons who have sucked dry the tit of the Maricopa County taxpayer.Hope they all rot.

Gerry_C
Gerry_C

Do all counties have so much animosity toward other departments?

Tommy Collins
Tommy Collins

I don't think so, Gerry. In this case however, MCSO has spent so much time ostracizing itself from the rest of the county in the shurf's unending need to have control over everything. Imagine how well the county could be running if all the departments were actually to work together?

In reality there is always the territorial competition between departments, but in the long run most of them will come together to solve budgetary and other critical issues. Not, however, with MCSO. The old goat considers himself king of the island.

Coz
Coz

In HELL !

Ryan the non-Aryan
Ryan the non-Aryan

One has to wonder if Hendersnott could become suicidal once he learns that the Feds are closing in to the much anticipated indictments of the top chain command at the MSCO, that he may possibly use that Desert Eagle on himself, as an easy way out?

If he goes down doing a perp walk straight into his boss's gulag instead, either way works fine for me. They gotta pay for their white collar crimes.

Gerry_C
Gerry_C

If he becomes suicidal, that is fine. I don't know him, so I could not anticipate his response. But the desert eagle may take a back seat to his diet as his weapon of choice.

Coz
Coz

One can only hope, a fitting end to the fat bastard.

>>One has to wonder if Hendersnott could become suicida

Deniseaz
Deniseaz

in t hat 2nd PDF , pgs 115 - 121 , there is some web sites, that are just way too far from right , . what are these on a MCSO computerr over, ? that Joel had in his possession ? and then he wrote some kind of wierd poetry or something after those sites ????????OMG ,, that makes me sick !!!!

XSoldier
XSoldier

Hendy says: ""we are at full thermonuclear -- the missiles have launched," according to David Hendershott. "We're taking incoming, they're taking incoming, and there's no turning back."

Exactly what was Henderblimp referring to? The $59 million civil war we the taxpayers were forced to endure?

When Black shows up at the meeting, things begin to get interesting. As Munnell mentioned in his memo, Black becomes furious at Munnell for raising questions about the SCA scheme.

"Okay, Frank, I won't put you through that fucking wall right now because we're up here. You want to take care of it downstairs I got no problem with it," Black says.

"Go ahead and threaten, go ahead and threaten me," Munnell tells him.

"You, you piece of shit."

"Don't call me a piece of shit."

"Yeah, piece of shit."

From this part of the recording, it sounds as if MCSO Director Larry Black is the piece of shit. I can't believe, oh wait, I forgot, this IS the MCSO, after all, so I CAN believe it, that this is law enforcement.

Finally, the Big Boss rolls in. And he seems to know what his lines are supposed to be. When Munnell tells him he was talking about that "stupid fund thing," Arpaio responds curtly.

"You didn't donate to me," Arpaio says.

Munnell says the donation was to "support" Arpaio.

"That's bullshit," says Arpaio. "I don't know nothing about this shit."

Apparently the Flaccid Fool was pissed that Munnell donated his earned salary to Saban. It's as if the Old Fool is Benito Mussolini. The meeting begins in earnest. It's clear that Arpaio is no dottering old fool -- he's deeply involved in the strategy and knows what's going on. Hendershott acts as his consigliere, filling in bits of knowledge about the law and minutiae of the county feud. They cover a smorgasbord of issues.

You're just now figuring that out, Mr. Stern? I think we've known for some time that the Flaccid Fool was deeply involved in his campaign and how he runs his office. Joke's Alzheimers' kicks in whenever he smells a news conference or wants to blame Henderblimp for the daily operations of the MCSO.

Hendershott says he thinks some correspondence between Smith and some lawyers will be the county manager's undoing: "...we have him right there and we're going to choke him till he dies."

Apparently Hendy is as delusional as his master the Flaccid Fool. There was no shit on Smith to begin with. Hendy was just pissed that the county asked the MCSO to shave 15% of their budget. Same with Candy Ass Thomas.

"So, um, we'll give them the fight. We'll have some fun. You having fun, David?" Arpaio asks his chief deputy.

"I hate to admit it, but yes," Hendershott answers.

So are we, Hendy. So are we. Your indictment and perp-walk will be filmed and played on YouTube with Elvis Presley's "Jailhouse Rock" blasting. Right now it's even more fun to see you and your master Joke quaking in your boots at the thought of a huge federal indictment.

Hendershott predicts that then-schools superintendent Tom Horne will get "wiped out" before the 2010 election because of some scandal, (which turned out to be no big deal.)

Horne was useless as state schools chief. The only time he became useful was when he ran for AG and knocked Candy Ass Thomas out of the race, a feat for which Maricopa County taxpayers are grateful for. Now, as AG, he shows us that he is as spineless as his predecessor, Terry Goddard. Now, I will give Goddard credit for the $94 million lawsuit he won, but that's it.

It'll be fascinating to see who gets the last laugh

Maricopa County taxpayers will get the last laugh on this one, I predict. When the Flaccid Fool & Co. do the perp-walk.

BTW, that ugly bitch looking as clueless as the MCSO shurf is Lisa Allen?! Damn was she beaten with the Ugly stick. I thought the Flaccid Fool had taste and hired a 20-something year-old hot girl to speak for his office and his sagging, wrinkly ass. Apparently not.

Former Republican
Former Republican

Fattass hendershott wouldn't know a meltdown if he saw one.He's been in the middle of one for years and never recognized it.What a pathetic puke. Hope he, and his family, suffer the same fate as what he put others through.

Grinchman007
Grinchman007

all i want to know is if arapajo is guilty or not?

XSoldier
XSoldier

Guilty as sin, Grinchman007. Guilty as sin.

Coz
Coz

Exactly, and then some.

wherewasi
wherewasi

Another thing that I found interesting is that the investigator interviewed Phil Gordon, who told him that Libby had told him that Hendershott had asked him to provide whatever dirt the MCAO had on Saban. When the investigator interviewed Libby, he denied that it happened and he denied having told Gordon that it happened. What's up with that? Who's lying and why?

WhoKnows
WhoKnows

Where the heck is the Pinal cty investigation report on the Munnell memo? Their own spokesman said it would be released about a month ago!

Native Guns
Native Guns

The gangster conversations recorded herein, has a close resemblence to their mobster counterparts. With that "Flaccid Fool" being Italian is ironic.Knowing how the F.B.I. is notorious for going after and taking down the mafia........

I'm sure the "Feds" will love to handle this one. We should be happy that Mr. Hornes had turned this over. Its just a matter of time before things start to go downhill for that joKKKer.

NorthAdamsReruns
NorthAdamsReruns

How does our little conehead BABEU fit into this? He was supposed to investigate the Munnell memo and get back to us. 5 weeks ago (Feb 18) he told NT he (his contractors; he and his team can't invesitgate squat) would have it out in a week.

Babeu probably got hung up on finding Hendershott had a Desert Eagle .50 cal and stopped everyting until he could buy one for himself.

Original question, with a complicated case of corruption like this, how does BABEU fit in? What did they really need him in this for?

XSoldier
XSoldier

The Flaccid Fool "farmed" this "investigation" to his good buddy Buffoon because he realized he had been implicated in the Munnell memo and had a conflict of interest. I think Munnell said that each and every time the Old Geezer was told about Hendy's abuse, he ignored what he was being told and told the deputies to continue to report to Fat Bastard.

Speaking of Buffoon, when is his "report" gonna be made available?! I want to read and know what the Brainless, Bald-headed Butt buddy of the Flaccid Fool has to say about all this.

NorthAdamsReruns
NorthAdamsReruns

Three year cop had to hire PIs to investigate and to write the report. Heclaimed it was done on Feb. 18. It is like when we were younger and wouldwait for the Sunday paper to hit the driveway, just to run out and get it soyou could read the comic pages. That is what we are going to get to do whenit is released.

XSoldier
XSoldier

Yup. Hard to believe Buffoon is actually a cop (he has AZPOST certification). Again, though, when will it be available?!

Former Republican
Former Republican

Do you suppose the weapons that Hendershott was brandishing (like tDesert Eagle .50 cal) were a part of his well publicized AUCTION activity that was reported? He had mega hits on a weapon website as well as ebay.Perhaps he was buying and selling county property with OUR money. Then pocketing the money if he sold anything.

NorthAdamsReruns
NorthAdamsReruns

Nah, more than likely it was a weapon that was seized in one of their drugor alien raids and later awarded to MCSO through asset forfeiture (...thisDesert Eagle needs to be put into LE service to fight RICO organizations).No financial outlay by the county and it ends up helping to clean out theevidence room as well as making a keen conversation piece for Hendershottwho has a .50 caliber penis (outside diameter and total length). If hefound it on the auction site, HE would have had to pay for it, and given hisfinancial problems, he needed someone or something else to pay for hise=desired toy.

PB does the same thing. He dreams about what he can get the taxpayerrs topay for. There is no war with the cartel. He is having to take the fight tothe cartel becuase they don't seem to be bringin it to him.

Coz
Coz

What's his selling name on E-Bay ?

Former Republican
Former Republican

I can't remember but the paper posted his entire disgusting internet activity...both on EBAY and a EBAY last minute type website. He also spend mucho time logging into gun auction websites, so it's a pretty sure bet that he was somehow using taxpayer money to finance the buys.That fat, scumsucking pig.

Stacy_paratore
Stacy_paratore

He's selling guns and tasers. He's also looking at his interests (I hear he owns stock in taser int'l) One thing we should look for is any connection to the face recognition programs he tried to pimp in Honduras.

Tommy Collins
Tommy Collins

We have no reason to believe your conjecture isn't dead on...

Former Republican
Former Republican

The FBI hopefully is looking into his "internet auction" activity. Let's face it...a guy who needs to move because he's losing his house is not likely to have extra money to buy weapons.More likely he's SELLING weapons that were purchased with county funds. Pocketing the money.

Coz
Coz

They didn't other than to whitewash the findings and sweep it under the carpet.

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