Morning Poll -- What's More Obnoxious: "Thuggish Mob" of Raza Studies Supporters, or Tom Horne Smiling While Being Called a Racist?

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Everyone in this photo is being obnoxious on one level or another.
State Attorney General Tom Horne issued a press release yesterday in which he links to a video that shows a "thuggish mob" of Raza studies supporters heckle him from the steps of the state Capitol all the way to his gold Jaguar sedan parked in the parking lot.

See the video and our story on the matter here.

Horne was about halfway to the parking lot, but had gone back to the front of the building to give an interview (in Spanish, as his office is quick to point out) with Univision Televsion. He was met by what he calls a "thuggish mob" of Raza studies supporters whose obnoxious screaming of the word "racist" made it impossible for the attorney general to conduct the interview.

What was equally -- if not more -- obnoxious than the "thuggish" screaming was the shit-eatin' grin Horne had on his face as he marched back to the parking lot -- all while the protesters followed him ranting and raving that he's a racist.

As New Times noted yesterday, dozens of protesters ganging up on one guy as he tries to get into his car doesn't do much to help their cause. At the same time, Horne smirking as he's being called a racist makes him look like...well...a racist.

We want to know what you think: who's more obnoxious?


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The N8V

MaxiMORONpercent blathers--"Native Americans were every bit as warlike as the European were in the 15th century."

Nope. And here's why:

1.) I have no doubt that you learned your U.S.History, particularily that which involves "Native Americans", from a biased teacher(or professor if you were lucky enough to attend college). Soley for the fact that more than half of this type of history taught, is biased, fallacious, half-truthed, and rife with inneundos. This is because the "White Man" has re-written history involving "Native Americans" through time and time again. In a vain attempt to hide the brutal truth regarding that history. Just to make themselves look good and less inhuman. So they whitewash Americans of every kind, about this history. In other words, you will never know the true history of "Native Americans".

2.) You tend to lump every "Native American" into the same boat. This is like lumping English culture into the same boat with Russians because they are both "white". Your egregious history teacher has taught you that every "Native Americans is warlike", which is totally bullshit to begin with. In fact, "Native Americans" of the plains for instance, have more integrity and RESPECT for their enemies than do their white european counterparts. Plains Natives did not to "war" to unleash bloodshed on their enemies. This is false, as Plains Natives went on raiding parties to steal horses and women. In fact, the so called "war" that they participated in was more of a sport, rather than a "war". It is a known fact, that your own history teacher will never tell you. Nothing "warlike" about it, in terms of bloodshed, as seen in europe.

I could go on and on about the truth. But given to your ignorance of U.S. History involving "Native Americans" of the U.S., I'd rather not waste my time with someone like you.

XSoldier
XSoldier

Arizonans elected Tom Horne to the office of Attorney General because he promised to be tough on illegals.

However, when Horne has a press conference, these people (the protesters), who snuck their brown asses into Arizona and the United States illegally, rail and decry Horne simply for walking to the lectern, he's the bad guy? Explain to me how that works.....

Britt
Britt

Mr. James King, you are a whimp.

You choose to take your journalistic time, preteding to be educated on Mr. Horne and his intentions - and who he is as a person, attempting to hinder the successful, courageous, compelling, honorable, notable, and strength-filled work Mr. Tom Horne has exerted on this horrific issue. - Writing a bill, that became law, to stop this anti-American - hateful curriculum, called Mexican American Studies.

Tom Horne is every teacher's, student's, citizen's, and American's HERO.

You on the other hand, are an evil doer.

I'll gotten gains do not prosper Mr. King. To the contrary, your name is not becoming of you.

Hold your head up Tom Horne and smile brightly! For you do not hide a light under a bush!

Wooo-------hooooooooooooooooo !!!!!!!!! Go AMERICA ..... Go ARIZONA ..... GOODBYE ANTI-AMERICAN AGENDAS! One, at, a, time.

P.S. Please educate yourself. STOPPING THE RAZA STUDIES STOPS RACISM. H-E-L-L-O!

So Be It!

La Raza Rhetoric old news
La Raza Rhetoric old news

Attorney General Horne is not a racist and so he was smiling. So what! This AG is working to resolve the problem of students being taught that they are living in occupied Mexico and has challenged those teaching to present all points of view. It is a simple request and instead of sitting down and revising the curriculum ... these people choose to attack the messenger. Andrew Thomas was a thug, Horne is being pro-active in the resolution of many complex issues. AG Horne is sensitive to many points of view and not owned by anyone. These protestors were rude and ineffective. Broad generalizations serve no one. His job is to protect our citizens and stop those who choose to harm us... he is doing his job and apparently is happy doing it. Get a real news story this is not it!

Britt
Britt

Tom Horne is always a gentleman. Bottom line. That's more than I can say about this anti-American, anti-Arizonan reporter.

Mr. Tom Horne was p-a-t-i-e-n-t-l-y TRYING TO CONDUCT A T.V. INTERVIEW WHILE RUDE ANTI-AMERICAN, MISINFORMED IGNORTANT PROTESTORS SCREACHED BEHIND HIM.

Tom Horne as always, kept his cool, calm, suave, and devonairre demeanor about him, even in the face of pure disgust.

Is he supposed to frown? Is he supposed to be forelorn, down, dreary, and downtrodden to appease these anti-American protestors or this reporter? I think not!

Raza Studies, now known as the "Mexican American Studies," teaches the over-throw of the U.S. Government and to reclaim the Chicanos' "Lost Land - Aztlan." MEChA teaches not to assimilate, that the Chicanos are "opppressed," and that Arizona belongs to Mexico.

"I heard (another techer) tell students that they need to go to college so they can gain the power to take back the stolen land and give it back to Mexico." - TUSD Educator.

And this is the mentality this "New Times" reporter supports? VERY SAD-!

Tom Horne spent numerous hours, time, and attention to constructing the law that passed banning such classes that create race resentment, that teach to overthrown the U.S. Government, and that create solidarity (unity).

Why don't you exude your energies to actually "THANK" this man for doing what you yourself aren't either capable of nor willing to do on your own? H-E-L-L-O!

Anti-American, rude protestors will never wipe the smile off my face, nor will they steal my joy. Nor should they from Tom Horne.

Thank God He's the "New Kid In Town!" He's a taking care of business that's been put off way too long!

Research shows that Raza students have been quoted as making statements to the effect of, "Get the F'ing White man out of the way, etc." ... and the books the Tucson Unified School District uses ... "Pedigody of the Oppressed," etc. are horrible!

Jose Angel Guiterrez is quoted in the "Occupied America" textbook as saying, "... if the gringo doesn't get out of our way, we will stampede over him."

This, "Poor me! We are the victims of American society" thought-process has got to stop.

Again, this mentality is what this reporter supports - VERY SAD~!!!!!!!!

Put on your "big-boy shorts," pay respect and homage to America, take responsibility for yourself, assimilate - or get out! Yes - or get out! Respect America or you are not welcome here.

Your "Poor me - I'm a little victim" mentality is old news, and Arizona will take no more of this.

America will take no more of this!

Finally, Arizona taxpayers will no longer fund teachers, nor textbooks, that teach this horrific anti-American agenda, and we don't care to grace our eyes on garbage reporting like this neither.

Assimilate, take up the American Flag, pay your respect and homage, or get out!

Thank you,Britt Yvonne

REDNECK CRACKER
REDNECK CRACKER

I am a proud white redneck raciest mexican and nigger hater. so what are you gonna do about it? WHITE POWER!

Charles
Charles

I don't understand what face he was supposed to be making. I for one find their mob/race card tactics hilarious. Why not smile and shrug it off? Are you just upset that he exposed these racist goons for what they are?

Quezo
Quezo

@ usgovfail:

The hipocrisy is rife, son. I would be willing to bet your ancestors came to this country legally? And what rights did they have then? "These People" you speak of have been on this continent longer than "your people", so why don't you holster the hate? "You people" have invaded, and continued to take from the native peoples of this land. Why don't you see this? What makes you better than them? That your parents were lucky enough to have been born here in this country that was overrun by alien Europeans who were kicked out of their own country? I am saddened by all of the hate. You probably praise God every week in a Christian church, am I right? Does Jesus tell you to hate Mexicans? Why is it ok to hate Mexicans now? If you don't like it here sooooo much, what with the "invasion" of a bordering continental nation of peoples native to this continent, why don't YOU take your hate back to your ancestors nation? Oh, they're likely socialists with universal healthcare that makes your Republican rectum seize. Aye calabasa, you frustrate me with your hipocrisies and righteous ideology which is likely in direct conflict with your chosen dogma. Grow up and calm down! We are all HUMAN. Why is this so hard to understand? Ahhh, McDonalds poisoning.

Brittzmusic
Brittzmusic

Justifying law breakers' actions is anti-American.

You compromise the standard - the standard of following the rules.

You too are a part of the big problem.

And the Bible actually states ... all throughout, to "Follow the laws of the Land (Romans,etc.) unless they "Contradict the Law of God." (Acts)

Nowhere in the Bible does it say it's not okay to have Anti-Illegal Immigration Laws.

Wake up and smell the coffee. Either you support our borders or you don't. If not, do not call yourself an American, as you appear to be nothing less than a whiny "Poor them" contributor who along with the anti-American "poor me little victims" cry, cry, cry for their unfair treatment.

Obey the laws of the land or get the heck out!!!

RESPECT AMERICA AND OUR LAWS OR GET OUT!!!!!!!!

Usgovfail
Usgovfail

My grandparents came here LEGALLY, they became citizens and they paid taxes. My mother and father were born here in America and I was born here in America. Hey, I don't like the IRS as much as the next guy but taxes are needed to help a country thrive. I hate to break it to ya, esse, but you lost the war for this land, that is how new countries are established, people go to war and the winner gets to claim the land. Ben Franklin, Thomas Jefferson and James Madison fought hard for the declaration of Independence and the Constitution and now your cousins and the white collar crooks in DC are using both documents to wipe their behinds with. You lost the war for this land, then we paid you money for more of it. Thats just how it is so either come to this country legally and pay taxes to help our economy thrive, or get the f**k out and take your anchor children with you. My citizen family and friends are tired of working only to watch their tax money be spent on you criminal freeloaders. Also, if you didn't notice I didn't mention anything about hating just mexicans. ALL illegals need to be deported no matter what skin color or nationality they are. There you go again thinking that this is all about the mexican latino community. Why? Because you have a guilty conscioence. Because you KNOW that you and your criminal friends are guilty. Just remember, no dignity, low class freeloading, cowardly leeches is all you are. If you had any dignity you woul dstay in Mexico and fight for rights there. Poosies.

Quezo
Quezo

You see? So much hate. I was only referring to Mexicans because of the article. And to max1%: I used "you people" in quotations in reference to usgovfails usage. It's referred to as mocking sarcasm. To those who are in agreement with these "fine gentlemen" I say this: The People united will not be defeated. I am not saying it's your fault, though your opinions on the matter paint you as racist sympathizers. Are you? Neither one has brought up your Faith (if you have one). Do your actions and beliefs follow the teachings of Jesus? Or Man? I deeply feel you follow the latter, as Jesus did not stand for such foolishness as you spout. Yes, the wars are over. Yes, the damage to this country's peace was dashed as European "civilization" spread here; why continue to force negativity and hatred? We are moving towards a Global economy, Global infrastructure, Global society. The viewpoints you share will only last so long before they are crushed by Peace, Understanding and Acceptance. It's the fanatics that will ultimately fight it out and eradicate themselves. I hope to not be forced into that by American extremists such as yourselves, but I will. I love this country and what it ideally stands for. I hope in my heart that you will see the errors of your ways before it is too late for you. On your deathbed you will plead for forgiveness as Truth burrows it's way in as you expire; seeing your life flash before you, the tears not able to fall as it is too late. Am I a tree hugging, patchouli wearing, peace-mongering, bleeding heart Liberal open minded Latino American citizen taxpayer? You bet your ass I am. And I will always be there to cry "peace" as you yell for war. Wield my pen as you wield your sword. And forgive you now, for you know not what you say or do, my friend. But you will. Eventually. Probably not. But I have hope. Now go watch American Football or something. Do you root for the Emperor in Star Wars? Wake UP!

maxonepercent
maxonepercent

You obviously did not comprehend a single word that I said. You claim to be a peaceful person but yet you continue to spread hatred, blaming the "white man" for all of your problems and assigning blame to innocent people for "crimes" that were committed centuries ago. You are clearly simple-minded (stringing together endless chains of meaningless politically-correct dogmatic catchphrases and acting like you are intelligent for doing so) so I am sure you will never recognize your own hypocrisy, but the simple fact is that you are the war monger here, you are the hater. It is you who is making the attempt (albeit pathetic) to excuse the criminal and thuggish actions of "your people" by blaming all of their shortcomings on white people.

You say "the damage to this country's peace was dashed as European 'civilization' spread here". What "peace" was that? The peace wherein the Aztec priests ripped the still beating hearts out of hundreds of innocent victims chests to appease their Sun God? Is that the peace you are talking about? Pick up a history book moron, the human experience is rife with violence. The Native Americans were every bit as warlike as the Europeans were in the 15th century, the Europeans were just superior warriors. It's called Darwinism, look it up.

I also find it terribly amusing that you are so quick to belittle European 'civilization', since without it the native people of these lands wouldn't have the wheel or iron tools. They lived like cavemen, thousands of years behind Europe in every way imaginable. You think they lived in some kind of garden of eden? Find out for yourself, head out into the desert without any modern conveniences and with nothing but stone tools. After a couple of hours you'll realize that living like an animal isn't exactly the "peaceful" idyllic paradise you imagine.

Oh yes, globalization, globalization will change everything. Bullshit. The American people are uniting against you and your cause more and more everyday. Obama, the crowning achievement of modern "liberalism" is a absolute failure and will be gone in two years, and with him will go your dreams of amnesty and "La Raza" studies in high schools.

I have a recommendation for you "friend", how about instead of bad-mouthing and hating Americans and American culture, instead you start thinking about how much worse off you would be if you weren't an American. If people like you would just start being grateful for what you have, instead of complaining about how much more you want, this country wouldn't be so divided.

maxonepercent
maxonepercent

It is funny that you feel it is okay to refer to all white people as "you people" when you know damn well if that phrase were used against you you would be crying "racism" like a spoiled brat who has been denied a lollipop.

Most white people's ancestor's DID migrate here legally because prior to the 1930's there were virtually no immigration laws, therefore all immigrants were legal immigrants. In fact, the original immigration laws were written to curtail immigration from EUROPE during the great depression, when sweat shops were trying to bring in cheap foreign labor to undercut american wages, much like many unscrupulous modern businesses do today with illegal immigrants from Latin America.

I know it might be hard for you to comprehend this, but modern white people are not the same ones who "invaded and took the native people's land". First of all, that was nearly 200 years ago, nearly 10 generations have been born between the last days of the American-Indian wars. Is it in anyway fair or even rational to blame an entire ethnic group for things that their great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great grandparents may have possibly done centuries ago? This is in essence the same argument some Nazi's made against the Jews, that they were all guilty for the crimes that their distant ancestors supposedly committed against Christ and early Christians.

Secondly, even the ancestors of most modern white american's had nothing to do with "taking the land of the natives" for the simple reason that the vast majority of white American's ancestors did not set foot in the US until the 20th century, decades after the last Indian War was fought.

Here is the reality of the situation. People like you are incapable of doing things for yourself. You insist on being handed everything in life, when people refuse to give you what you want you resort to name calling, much like a small child. I have news for your friend, that is not what America is all about. You would probably know that if you were an American.

Usgovfail
Usgovfail

Why can't you people just come to America legally? Why not just wait your turn in line and follow the rules like a normal person? Because you are low class trash with no dignity. Nothing more than cowards who run from the problems in their own country only to create more in ours. Leeches who despise the very people who pay for your welfare. Losers. All you raza followers should kill yourselves. You are not worth more than the dirt on the bottom of my shoe.

maxonepercent
maxonepercent

Mexicans are incapable of following rules, have you ever been to Mexico? There are no rules, it is just a free-for-all. Everyone just takes what they want and the strong trample all over anyone who gets in their way to get what they want and the end result is a failed society and a nasty cesspool of a country where children beg in the streets and the best job a woman can hope for is to be a prostitute in a TJ nightclub. This is their culture.

Mind you, the Mexican people themselves are not the problem per se, it is just their extremely dysfunctional and primitive culture that is the problem. That is why I oppose illegal immigration, allowing them to move here en masse is only just letting their warped culture spread into ours. I don't have any problem with those who come here to become Americans, who embrace our values and our laws. I just have a problem with those who want to turn America into Mexico Norte.

Usgovfail
Usgovfail

Anyone who affiliates themselves with a organizer called "The Race" are racist pieces of sh!t. Not to mention, look at that crownd, can you get any lower class than that? No wonder they fled from mexico, mexico didn't want them. Great, so we get more of other countries cast aways. And who cares what kind of car Mr. Horne drives? Why even mention it? Fk the phoenix new times, this racist propaganda spin cycle lying rag sucks. I hope osama bin laden flys a 747 into your building.

maxonepercent
maxonepercent

I second your wish that Obama bin-Laden would fly a plane into the NT building, but that will never happen because the NT are allies with Al-Queda and Osama. They are working hand-in-hand to destroy America, even if it is unintentional. Considering the fervent anti-americanism you find in just about everything the NT touches I think it is safe to assume the Osama bin-Laden loves the NT.

Docbob498th
Docbob498th

The Usgov amended Statue of Liberty: Give us you tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to be free........................WE NEED THE TARGET PRACTICE.

Tommy Collins
Tommy Collins

Mr. Horne, while you're in the kitchen, make some pancakes please....

Honestly, it sounds like Horne needs a goon squad to keep these angry thugs at arms length...

He ran for the office, now he needs to deal with the reality of the office. From third person perspective Mr. Horne seems to be sucking up to the Right Tilted Republicans, Brewer, pearce, arpio, etc.... and it seems he is showing his true colors. I think the folks involved in education are glad to be rid of him.

Britt
Britt

Actually T.C., ADE is in mourning .... they lost a "brilliant man with brilliant intelligence!"

Not to mention, Arizona's Teddy Bear. A heart of gold, and a backbone of steel.

Too bad you don't know the man before you attempt to throw stones. Drrrrrrr~!

Johnny White Man
Johnny White Man

Tom's defination of "thuggish"--

Let's see....its only "thuggish" if you:

1.) Brown skinned with Mexican(or South/Latin America) lineage.2.) Carrying pickets and signs3.) Shouting, chanting and other verbal acts associated with protests

Hmmm.......I don't know what's more "thuggish" if one were to cross over to the "racist" side of the line into the nativist woodpile:

1.) Old wrinkled White skin and hirsuted.2.) Clothing harbouring racist imagery(the American flag excluded)3.) Guns, classic 6ers, rifles, belt knife and other weaponery.4.) Shouting "racist" epithets "White Power", Seig Heiling etc5.) Pickets and signs written w/ "racist" tones.6.) Waving the Confederate or Swastika flag.7.) Acting like drunken assholes and bitches w/ intent to instigate threats of bloody violence.

You decide which is "thuggish".

maxonepercent
maxonepercent

WTF that this have to do with the article? The only racists on display at the rally are the La Raza fascists.

Here is a better definition of "thuggish" for you:

1- Demanding that the state of Arizona pay for "La Raza" studies classes that preach racial hatred and ethnic superiority

2- When denied special treatment whine about it by obnoxiously shouting the same tired and meaningless catch phrase over and over again like a bunch of Orewellian sheep.

3- Be stupid enough to think that those kind of tactics do anything but alienate mainstream America and hurt your own cause.

Britt
Britt

"Orewellian sheep"

LOL - you are so funny, and very well said I might say!!!

Thank you very much!

Johnny White Man
Johnny White Man

Wow, looks like I struck a nerve, eh? That means the defination of "thuggish" I stated above is pretty much accurate. If your so concerned with Mexicans not assimilated into society enough, why are they everywhere in society in all walks of life just like any other American? From politicians to students in public/private schools. And if you want Mexicans to fully assimiliated, then quit with your infantile whining about "multi-culturalism" that you and your ghastly hordes are known to whine about daily. That is your nexus of your crying--its "multi-cultrualism" and assimilation. If you want everyone to be fully assimiliated, first try to assimiliate yourselves. End your laughable hypothetical "White Power" movement and assimilate into this "multi-cultural" society. Otherwise, shut your septic trap.

guest
guest

I think that the politically correct facial expression when being called a racist is to furrow one's brow and affect a look of consternation. or, just to point and laugh at the people who can't come up with anything better than to scream epithets.

Mike from Bisbee
Mike from Bisbee

So, Mr. Tom Horne: the treatment your Tory tea bagger buddies gave Gabrielle Giffords at ALL of her town hall meetings on health care reform wasn't "thuggish" but these people's behavior was? So when tea baggers are shouting people down, booing them, calling them liars they're just exercising their right to free speech and emulating our founding fathers but when angry Chicanos do it they're thugs?

Were you threatened? Physically restrained? NO. You just got a taste of your own Tory tea bagger medicine. And what it proved is that Tory tea baggers can dish it out but they can't take it. I'm not surprised. Your fire in the belly comes from Koch money.

You, sir, are a self-righteous, sanctimonious, carpet-bagging, hypocritical Tory from Canada. I remember your disgusting gutter-level attack ad against Jaime Molera during your sordid campaign for state school superintendent. You are no gentleman, sir, nor are you a good public servant.

Britt
Britt

When you throw a rock into a pack of wolves, the one who gets hit the "hardest" yelps the "loudest!"

Only in American can anti-Americans have the audacity to actually step foot at the State Capitol lawn to shout in disgust over the fact that their anti-American curriculum is slowly melting away.

Wow. Only in America.

Excellent job Tom Horne. Wonderful job Tea Party Movement! Yes ~ !!!!

Goodbye to the anti-American, a-moral liberals ... one, at, a, time.

Smiles.

Usgovfail
Usgovfail

Chicanos that are here illegally don't have rights, idiot. Tell your cousins to just wait their turn in line, come here legally, help pay taxes, and all will be well. Thats all American citizens are asking is to help pay for the services that these illegals are using. Illegal is not a race, it is a crime. I don't care what your skin color is, if you are here illegally, GET THE F**K OUT.

Usgovfail is a bigoted dumbass
Usgovfail is a bigoted dumbass

Hey dumbfuck Usgovfail, there is no such thing as "Chicanos" being here illegally...

You see they are US Citizens who happen to be Hispanic. You fucken bigot, go back and crawl underneath the rock you came from.

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