Glendale Eighth-Graders in Sub's Class Weren't "Perfectly Behaved," But Weren't Anti-American, Either, District Says

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Glendale eighth-graders who were the subjects of a controversial letter written by a substitute teacher were not "perfectly behaved" in the sub's class, a school district official admits.

But after interviewing the students, district officials don't believe the class expressed any sort of anti-American sentiment, says Jim Cummings, spokesman for the Glendale Elementary School District.

The flap over what really happened in the March 8 class subbed by Valley resident Tony Hill continued Thursday with statements by district officials that Hill's letter -- read to the State Senate last week -- contained inaccuracies. A letter by Harold W. Smith Elementary School's principal, Rick Alvarez, essentially calls Hill a liar. Cummings is quoted in an Arizona Republic article today saying, "We don't believe that he represented this campus accurately at all."

Yet Cummings tells New Times today that, "There are possibly nuggets of truth of what he might have said. Some kids misbehaved -- that's probably true."

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The Glendale Elementary School District won't release essays written by eighth-graders about a CNN debate between Lou Dobbs and Democratic lawmaker Steve Gallardo.

​"Are we saying the kids were angels and perfectly behaved? Absolutely not," Cummings says.

The kids told the principal, who interviewed them, that "they didn't believe (Hill) had control of the class, and there were a couple of the kids who were pushing it," Cummings says.

But the students claimed that everyone stood for the Pledge of Allegiance, Cummings says. And none of the kids could recall, or admitted to saying, anything like "we are Mexicans and Americans stole our land."

When the students were asked about the inflammatory statements Hill claims he heard, "they look at you like you're out of your mind," Cummings says. He adds that the stories from students were "remarkably consistent," which led district officials to believe that they were telling the truth.

We ask Cummings if that means he's calling Hill a liar.

"I'm not going to go there," he says.

Hill has maintained that the letter was accurate. But district officials say Hill was incorrect to write that the students were assigned to thank Gallardo "for his position on Illegal Immigration rights."

As with the students' behavior, though, there's at least a kernel of truth in Hill's perception. The students had, in fact, been assigned by their regular teacher (whom the district declined to identify Cannon, according to the exit report -- Mr. Cannon, since Cummings said he was a man) to write about a 2007 interview on YouTube of Democratic lawmaker Steve Gallardo by former CNN blowhard Lou Dobbs. The assignment by the regular teacher was to watch the YouTube video and write a letter in which they took a position for or against Gallardo's side, officials say. The essays were never sent to Gallardo, and Cummings isn't sure whether the teacher intended them to be mailed.

Cummings didn't know why the teacher selected that video for the assignment.

Hill's letter states:

The students' final drafts that I read were basically the same. Most of them stated they were in the country illegally, White Americans are racist, and that they came here for a better life.

Cummings says he's seen the essays, but he wouldn't describe what they said. The district won't release the essays to the public because of federal privacy laws, he says.

That's sort of a shame, now that our interest is piqued. Perhaps the district could somehow release the essays without the students' names; they would clearly help the public understand the students' mindset.

We obtained from Cummings the exit report we wrote about yesterday -- see below. We still think it supports Hill's letter, to some extent: He wrote that the kids refused to follow directions, "refused to act proper" (sic) and that his overall experience was "poor." If he'd written that the class went smoothly, we'd dismiss him entirely as a nut.

Critics have jumped on the fact that he didn't describe the inappropriate behavior in detail. We're not sure if that means Hill made up the stuff he knew Russell Pearce and the race-baiters would love. For sure, Hill's credibility is weakened by his bigoted statements that "most of the Hispanic students do not want to be educated but rather be gang members and gangsters. They hate America and are determined to reclaim this area for Mexico."

Hill's letter states that his wife and children are Hispanic, which makes his insensitivity to the matter astounding -- even if he's not a liar.

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majii
majii

Mr. Hill got only a small "taste" of what teachers deal with on a daily basis. I taught high school social studies for 33 years until 2009. The type of behavior he describes in his exit report is typical. Teachers have to deal with students who don't complete assignments, don't listen, don't participate in class, and/or come to school but are unconcerned with getting an education. I hate that he had such a bad experience with this group of students, but it's only a "smidgen" of what the students' regular teacher has to deal with. Plus, it's to be expected that some students will be uncooperative when a sub is in the classroom. They see it as a "free" day and don't think they have to follow the sub's directions because he/she is "not" their teacher. If they're uncooperative with their teacher, it's usually worse when there's a sub.

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Against The Old School System
Against The Old School System

Why is this moron Hill a teacher to begin with? He clearly can't teach. Someone said that he should seek another profession. Well since that moron isn't fully educated himself, he can at least teach kidergarten and preschoolers. That is if he isn't a PEDO. I'm glad that sucka's been caught with his filthy paws in the cookie jar. This will make pearce and ilk look like he's been fooled.

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Native Guns
Native Guns

Clearly, this is an attempt at whitewashing the non-whites by a teacher, whose politiKKKal views are quite appalling. He's a dangerous man who should have never been a sub-teacher or a teacher to begin with. His poltiKKKal ideals is akin to un-AmeriKKKanism and colonialism. The sort of rhetoric that should never be taught in schools to our children(grade school level speaking). The supposed "assignments" he was giving to the students, was to instill a sense of mockery of them as Hispanics by playing an old Lou Dobbs stint. As we all are familiar with that former national news network minuteman's stance.

On the other hand, I'm actually glad that those kids "misbehaved" on Tony Hill's watch. Given to what that fool was teaching. It was wholly inappropiate to shove his politiKKKal beliefs down our children's throats. He must be denounced.

Smoke your meth Tony Hill and never come back to school again.

Usgovfail
Usgovfail

These little fucking anchor brats shoudl be expelled from school. They don't even appreciate the education they are getting thanks to American citizens taxes. You know, if it were fro myself, my friends and my family, ALL taxpaying US citizens with valid (ie: NOT stolen) social security numbers, these little pukes would not be able to learn how the europeans whooped their spanish and mexican ancestors asses for this land. Of course they could always take their illegal parents and hike back through the desert to their so wonderful third world shithole that they so cowardly fled from in the first place. I mean, why not make a stand in mexico and fight against the government and drug cartel? Because that would take courage and balls. It would take dignity to want to fight for your land and earn freedom. Fuck that, its so much easier to snaek through the desert and then demand rights that you did not earn. Fucking cowards, leeches with no dignity.

Car_del99
Car_del99

If you are under 30 and went to school in Az. I probably paid for your education with my taxes...Too bad you didn't learned much...Everybody at one time or another , had somebody else paid for their education ( when you are a kid you don't work ,or pay taxes ) where you a "LEECH " THEN ? Kids don't need to steal SS # when born here...YOU IDIOT !!!!

Car_del99
Car_del99

" Where "= mistake it should be "WERE "

mikefrombisbee
mikefrombisbee

Thanks for letting everyone who reads this forum see what a hateful redneck racist you really are. You have unintentionally done the world some good. Thanks, Goober.

By the way, lightning child, Spaniards are Europeans. They live in Spain. Spain is located on the Iberian Peninsula, which it shares with Portugal. Portugal is also part of Europe, because the Iberian Peninsula is connected to France. Spaniards explored and conquered much of the western hemisphere decades before the English landed in North America. They were also the first Europeans to have circumnavigated the globe. You can go to the childrens' section of the public library and find a nice history book with pictures and words that are not too hard for you to read. Ask the nice librarians to help you. Not that you are interested in a deeper, more accurate understanding of history - it would interfere with your cherished misconceptions. And it would require you to re-enroll in GED classes, which were evidently too hard the first time around.

You poor, ignorant, hateful, woolhat & gallus-wearing redneck. I do feel sorry for you. And for your family.

Rob
Rob

Look at it this way. You're legal and you're entitled to the free education through all those taxes you've paid with your valid Social Security number. So go back and at least pass 3rd grade this time.

rick the prick
rick the prick

those two asses in congress, the cracker russell and the faty ass bitch should aplopgize

Usgovfail
Usgovfail

Apologize for what? Apologize for the number of traitor asshole congressmen that did not help to pass bills 1611 and the like that help rid this nation of the illegal invaders who are turning America into the same trash country that they so cowardly fled from? Yeah that does indeed deserve an apology, but then again, I wouldn't want to apologize for my corrupt colleagues who are more interested in the illegal....er, undocumented votes than they are protecting their CONSTITUENTS. Eat shit rick.

Carole
Carole

As much as I hate Tony Hill's inflammatory racist comments about Hispanic youth in general, I feel a little sorry for the man. 8th graders are very perceptive of people's attitudes, and it's pretty evident that Teacher Tony didn't win over the kids. So some of the kids acted their age... (Remember when you were 13?) And Tony, needing a little attention from someone, decided to pour out his prejudices and biases to a senator who thinks like he does. Unfortunately for him, Pearce and Klein, instead of reading the letter under the light of a not so great sub teacher having a bad day, decided to assign him the importance of an "expert witness" for their anti-Hispanic agenda... And now, Tony Hill will probably never be able to teach a class again. He probably shouldn't be teaching anyway, if he can't embrace all races and nationalities. However, he's obviously become the scapegoat of the thousands who, unfortunately, think just like him. Pearce and Klein owe several apologies, first and foremost to Hispanics in general, for reading a letter that not only told of incidents (true or not), but categorized an entire race. But secondly, to this man whose future has gone downhill since his misguided comments. Hmmm.... he is getting a little taste of the medicine he wants to give so many others...

Ms Info
Ms Info

What is there to feel sorry for? Rather than just sucking it up, like a teacher (or any mature adult) ought to, he sought confirmation of his prejudices by whining to his state senator. He obviously can't write in proper English or control a classroom. He's clearly in the wrong profession and if this letter keeps one bad teacher out of a classroom, Arizona students are better off.

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