Richard Chrisman Shooting: Victim High on Meth Before Death. No Word on Sobriety of Dog Also Shot Dead

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Officer Richard Chrisman
The domestic violence suspect shot and killed by Phoenix police Officer Richard Chrisman was apparently high on crystal meth when the Phoenix Police Department's Killer Cop gunned down him and his dog in a trailer in south Phoenix last year.

A toxicology report released today shows that suspect Daniel Rodriquez had meth in his system at the time of the shooting and that he'd recently used the drug, which makes sense considering his mother called police to the home because her son had gone berserk after the two had an argument.

But being high on crank is still no reason to shoot a guy.

The portrait of Chrisman has been painted as a trigger-happy cop who shot Rodriquez for no apparent reason -- and just because the victim was a meth head doesn't mean that's not the case.

Keep in mind, another cop at the scene told investigators after the shooting that at no point during the incident did he feel threatened by Rodriquez. Rodriquez was unarmed, and Chrisman had just shot his dog -- also for no apparent reason (the other officer also told investigators that at no point did he feel threatened by the pooch, but Chrisman shot it anyway).

Chrisman's attorneys will likely use the report in his defense to show that Rodriquez was a methed-up maniac who posed a fatal threat to the officers. But Chrisman also shot a dog that as far as we know was not on meth, and like Rodriquez, posed no threat to the officers.

Seems like Chrisman just had an itchy trigger finger that he was gonna scratch no mater what drug Daniel Rodriquez was on -- it just so happens he was on meth.

Not to mention, we'd like to see what was floating around Chrisman's bloodstream at the time of the shooting -- seems it might take more than a trip to Starbucks to stay awake during those long nights doing after hours security guard work (or not doing it).

Below is our initial report of the incident based on Chrisman's arrest report and statements from the other officer -- you be the judge:

According to court documents obtained by New Times, Phoenix Police Officer Richard Chrisman has been charged with aggravated assault with a deadly weapon after fatally shooting 29-year-old Daniel Rodriquez.

Rodriquez's mother called police about noon yesterday to report that she and her son had gotten into an argument and that Rodriquez was breaking things in her trailer home near Baseline Road and Central Avenue.

Officer Chrisman and another officer found Rodriquez's mother at the trailer next to the one where Rodriquez had thrown a fit.

The two officers went next door and tried to talk with Rodriquez, but he didn't answer.

The mother told the officers that the trailer was hers and that they were allowed to enter.

The officers entered the trailer and found Rodriquez standing in the living room.

Rodriquez told the cops they had no right to be in his trailer, and that's when things got wild.


Officer Chrisman pulled out his gun, held it to Rodriquez's head, and said "I don't need no warrant, motherfucker."

The other officer told detectives later that Rodriquez hadn't threatened the officers, and he saw no reason for Chrisman to pull his gun.

After putting away the gun, Chrisman went "hands on" and tried to detain Rodriquez. The other officer tried to help, but the two were unable to detain him.

Officer Chrisman then pulled out his Taser and deployed it toward Rodriquez. After getting zapped, Rodriguez hit the floor.

When he got up, Officer Chrisman was waiting with pepper spray, which he sprayed in Chrisman's eyes from about a foot away.

Chrisman then pulled his gun again and shot a dog that had been barking in the corner. The other officer told detectives later that the dog had been barking but hadn't attacked or bitten anyone in the trailer.

Rodriquez, having been shocked and blinded by pepper spray, argued with Chrisman about why he shot his dog.

The other officer tried to "talk down" the situation, and Rodriquez said he would leave the trailer on his bicycle, which was in the living room.

Officer Chrisman, apparently, wasn't havin' it.

As Rodriquez tried to leave, he and Chrisman got into a scuffle.

Officer Chrisman pulled out his gun and fired two or three shots at Rodriquez from about three feet away.

The other officer told detectives that as Chrisman drew his weapon, both he and Rodriquez took a step back. In other words, there was no real threat.

The other officer told detectives that, at no point, did he feel there was a threat that would have warranted the use of deadly force. At no point did Rodriquez ever have a weapon.

When asked his reaction to Chrisman putting the gun to Rodriquez's head, the officer said it was "the worst day of [his] life."

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RationalMan
RationalMan

Let's see, he was tasered yet he continued to resist. Then he was pepper sprayed and he continued to resist (in your report you explain that he got into a "scuffle" with Officer Chrisman) AND to top it all off he was high on meth. I just don't see how this is the officer's fault. Boo-hoo a waste-of-air meth-head gangbanger is dead. Good riddance. I wish the police would treat all of his kind the same way. Here is the reality of this story, if the dead tweaker were white the New Times would have never even reported on this case, instead the rag sees an opportunity to sensationalize and encourage racial animosity and it becomes a top story. The real criminal in this case is not Office Chrisman but propagandists like James King and Stephen Lemmons who have made a fortune through misrepresenting reality for their own greedy purposes.

Sourpatch
Sourpatch

Either way...two less mouths on welfare...can you even buy dog food with food stamps?

I better get to work, millions on welfare depend on me!

ExpertShot
ExpertShot

It seems that some people are more than willing to give the constitutional protections to the police officer involved in this shooting and none to the victim. Regardless of whether test results showed meth in his system or not, according to crankynugget (if that is his real name), the victim was innocent before proven guilty by a court of law - JUST LIKE the Cop has not been convicted and is therefore not guilty of using meth.

Oh wait, that is NOT what cranky nugget is arguing - in fact, he's arguing just the opposite, that the victim here (who was in his own home and probably busting up his own possessions - which is NOT a crime) is guilty before being found innocent - therefore, the Copy was completely justified in his killing this unarmed, non-threatening citizen.

CrankyNugges, from which country did you illegally immigrate from to the USA? North Korea?

CrankyNugget
CrankyNugget

@ Docbob498th...

What does the use of deadly force have to do with whether the stupid tweaker was responsible for the situation he found himself in or not?

I'll make this so simple even you can understand it. I suspect you usually need some pictures to help you understand, but I'll try anyway. Here I go... Be a good boy and you won't get in trouble.

CrankyNugget
CrankyNugget

@ Kit Carson...

No, that's not my argument and I never said anything close to what you accuse me of saying.

YOU'RE WRONG! See, I can say that, too. Mine carries more weight since you obviously don't understand my point.

I don't know much about your world, but from what I do know of it, it seems to be full of people who are quite ready to convict based solely on a police report. You should be ashamed of yourself.

How about this... if you don't want to be shot by a cop, don't put yourself in a situation where you need to be confronted by cops. Sounds simple enough to me. Why do you have such a difficult time grasping such a simple concept?

A cop won't make you a dead, destructive tweaker if you don't do meth and threaten people and property.

CrankyNugget
CrankyNugget

@ The Death of Me Yet...

No reply allowed to your comment, so I'm starting another thread.

Sorry, but you can't argue against facts. The fact is you rape puppies. I know it's a fact because I said it was. Your collection of kittie porn is disgusting. That's a fact.

That kid didn't have to take meth, bust shit up and have the cops called to constrain him, either. That's a fact.

I couldn't care less about any lawsuit by the family. The cop hasn't even had a trial, yet. Well, except here at the New Times where he's already been tried, convicted and sentenced.

My argument wins. That's a fact.

The Death of Me Yet
The Death of Me Yet

If the police were allowed to shoot to death every "tweaker" they adversarily encountered in the course of a typical work day, Phoenix would soon be an awfully quiet piece of real estate and its population status would drop from fifth place down to about 500th.So Rodriquez was spun on the Meth monster... so what ?Jared Loughner was not spun during his Safeway hunting trip. The lady at Sky Harbor wasn't spun when she died in police shackles. No one has so far suggested Nathan Ferlet was high on anything when he crashed his Mom's car after chocking her to death and joyriding around for 95 minutes with her cadaver in the shotgun seat.Anyone who feels that a person deserves to die because of a temporary chemical motivated mania has not been out of the house too much.Yes, police have a dangerous profession in which split second decisions are the rule and not the exception. And we rely on their courage and trust their skills in doing the best they can in a volatile situation. Most important to a successful day is their being able to control a stituation and not cause it to escalate.So where does that leave Richard Chrisman.If he cannot execute a D.V. call any better than this tragedy indicates... then we are well rid of Officer Richard Chrisman.And all it cost was a yapping dog, a human life. and $10 million dollars.

Drunkcopssuck
Drunkcopssuck

I wish the New Times would do a series on Cops that DRIVE drunk. Like Ofc.J. Zycowics and an Unnamed PPD LT. who is in the Marine Reserves who is on his second DUI? Chandler PD Ofc. Zycowics was a .20+% BAC over the holidays and was dropped off at his car to drive by--you guessed it a Taxi!! So this mouth breather gets an 18 month license and 15 days in jail an still gets to carry a gun and badge. What the Efffff is going on here--Extreme DUI and you don't get fired! Would be great for the N.T. to FOI PD internal affairs reports on DUI's by officers the publish the drunk cops names--maybe then PD administrators would get the ballzz to fire the jerk who risk the lives of the citizens they are supposed to protect.

FUCKTHECOPS
FUCKTHECOPS

What the fuck? This is typical. A cop cold heartedly kills somebody and is obviously fucking guilty of 1st degree murder yet he is only getting charged with aggravated assault with a deadly weapon? And because he is a cop, even that charge will get reduced in court and this crazy asshole is gonna get a slap on the wrist. If he gets jail time, it will be minimal, but he'll probably just get "suspended w/o pay", and he'll be back doing this shit again in no time.

Meth Before Dishonor
Meth Before Dishonor

Hey asswipe. Everybody knows that the murderous cop is as guilty as Charles Manson. Try reading the facts of the report before you go barfing like a snaggle-toothed simpleton of the far Right.

Time to enforce the law and KKKuff that traitor of the community.

CrankyNugget
CrankyNugget

If that stupid tweaker hadn't gone berserk and scared the shit out of his mother, no cops would have been at his door at all.

Spin it however you want, but this is the tweaker's fault.

Meth Before Dishonor
Meth Before Dishonor

Judging by the dangerous and reckless actions of that trigger-happy jerk of a cop. It seems that *HE* is the one on METH.

Send that traitorous criminal cop off to jail.

B_Lab
B_Lab

@RationalMan

I don't get why this is a race thing or excess brutality either... the guy was throwing things, high, and his own mother felt endangered.  He tries to resist any effort to talk him down and to top it off his pit bull is loose... great.  I'm surprised the officers didn't tase the dog (and the results for that don't even work well I hear) and end up having to return to this scumbag's house later that day anyway for god knows what else (as he also had a gun at the scene).  Perfect.  Why do we need empathy for his family?  They raised a total monster to society!

B_Lab
B_Lab

@ExpertShot 

Um, after a police officer observes hostility, I believe the innocence is out the door, buddy!  They're supposed to respond and do their job!  Poor psychopath my ar**

Kit Carson
Kit Carson

You changed your argument.

First the tweeker was responsible for getting shot. Now he's just responsible for being in the situation he found himself.

The former is idiocy, the later a meaningless declaration.

Here are some others for you to try out: If you get shot in a bank hold-up, blame yourself because you are the one that wanted to gfo to the bank. If you get raped at a bar, you're the one who wanted to stop for a drink.

Putting yourself where others can harm you does not make you responsible for said harm.

Kit Carson
Kit Carson

You say it's not your argument, but then you go ahead and repeat it.

Your claim is that the dead man is responsible for his own death because his acts called the police to the scene. Using your logic, a speeder shot for no good reason would also be responsible for this own death or injury. A woman reporting a rape could be re-victimized by the police, she having called them in the first place.

We are accountable for the natural, expected and foreseeable consequences of our actions. Unless you are claiming that it is foreseeable that the police will shoot anyone they damn well please, then this death does not lie with the murdered man.

The officer is entitled to a presumption of innocence, and to have his day in court. So too, the people also get their day in court. These blogs are helping ensure that happens.

CrankyNugget
CrankyNugget

You have so many things to be outraged about, you don't know where to begin. Get back to me when you've had time to sort your thoughts in to some coherent form.

P.S. I never stated that he deserved to die. But, he is dead. Because of his own behavior, he's met a tragic end.

CrankyNugget
CrankyNugget

I don't know that the cop is guilty. So, right away you are shown to be talking out of your rotmouth. I'm surprised you took time away from squeezing the bugs out of your skin in order to comment.

I'm commenting on the article, not the police report, you douche gobbler.

Docbob498th
Docbob498th

Another fringe moron eh, buttnugget? In case your just too plain stupid to realize it, you're one false accusation away from having the police all up in your face. And if your posts are any reflection of your behavior, one of them would probably cap you just on GP.

Kit Carson
Kit Carson

Huh?

So if the police respond to ANY complaint, then they may do whatever they want? That's your argument - that because this man started breaking things in his mom's home, and the police were called, that no matter what "spin" is put on it, it's the man's fault.

Does this apply to other misdemeanors? Speeding - can we have the police cut off your ears, because, hey, no matter how you spin it, it's the speeders fault the police made contact with him.

We demand our police respect the extra power we vest in them. Any officer unwilling to live up to our standards does not merit such power. Don't like it? Leave the fucking force and go do something you're qualified to do, 'cause you're not police material.

B_Lab
B_Lab

@Kit Carson 

Well...apparently if you throw things around, act demented, and yell at your mother like you're capable of doing something worse that day then hrm, you figure it out for yourself if you're ever a mother to a crazy freak (although I suspect you're of a larger frame size and more believing of having control of any situation because you're some guy  *rolls eyes*)... although I hear the mother herself is all "my poor baby" after the fact.  I'm just glad some ahole didn't think it'd be 'cute' to try that with me and test how'd I'd respond to their pit and them on my property!

CrankyNugget
CrankyNugget

As I said earlier, my argument has remained consistent throughout this discussion. The situation the tweaker finds himself in is "shot dead".

It probably does seem like idiocy to you. Many people feel that way when presented with concepts they are unable to understand. See, I understand what your argument is. I think you're wrong. I don't think you're an idiot. You just aren't capable of seeing beyond your narrow view of the world.

That tweaker would most likely be alive if he had behaved himself.

CrankyNugget
CrankyNugget

Nice try, sunshine, but my argument has remained consistent throughout this discussion. As has my reaction to the ridiculous "speeder" comparison. Your attempts to equivocate different crimes illustrates your failure to comprehend the situation.

It would seem that your failure to understand the basic concept, as presented to you, leaves you with no argument that persuades me to change my mind.

The Death of Me Yet
The Death of Me Yet

Cranky,You stupid old fuck. The only outrage I see here is the fact that you - I presume - are not "on" anything, and yet you've proven yourself a f-o-o-l, and an inexperienced twit.Turn off your computer, put down your little Bible, quit listening to Rush Limbaugh, and go outside and look at the real world.You might be surprised at what an imbecile you truly are.

Kit Carson
Kit Carson

People are responsible for the natural and foreseeable consequences of their actions.

The murdered man did nothing that would merit being shot, so says the cop who was there. The killer-cop admitted to planting evidence on a suspect and has been placed on a list of cops considered un trustworthy for testimony at trial.

The cop here is in trouble because of his bad behavior. It is natural and foreseeable that when you shot a man who is not a threat to you, you're going to get some bad press and maybe go to jail.

You don't like holding people accountable for their actions, we do. It's a simple disagreement .No need to get snippy.

CrankyNugget
CrankyNugget

Oh, really? Heavens to Betsy, you sure did put me in my place. Calling me "buttnugget" has made me completely reconsider my opinion. Having done so, I find that I am of the same opinion as when I started. Your rejoinder is a FAIL.

Incidentally, can you tell me where I made any false accusation in my opinion?

I appreciate the fact that you are practically salivating at the thought that I might get shot by a cop. So, a violent tweaker doesn't deserve it, but someone with an opinion that differs from yours does. You're a sick fucker.

The Death of Me Yet
The Death of Me Yet

That was not an argument... I simply stated a fact.And, yes, it was impressive, wasn't it. Thanks for noticing.

CrankyNugget
CrankyNugget

My goodness, what a cogent argument you present. Impressive.

CrankyNugget
CrankyNugget

Did that cop show up without being called? No. Was the tweaker out of control? Yes.If you get pulled over for speeding and lose your mind, then yes, there's a chance you will get shot.

Here's another idea. Don't get violent during an argument or when you're on drugs, so that the cops have to be involved at all. You can't get shot by a cop if there's no cop there.

CrankyNugget
CrankyNugget

I don't hate tweakers and never have. I certainly don't use that as a reason to stay clean. You jump to a lot of conclusions.

I'm sure we'd get along fine IRL, but when speaking textually I find it better to communicate in a blunt manner.

I believe if you reread anything I've said, I've not once tried to justify the cop's actions or defend what he did. We all keep repeating ourselves here, but I'll say it again- Spin it however you want, but this is the tweaker's fault. I've already explained why I feel that way.

 Steve Tracy to Crankynugget
Steve Tracy to Crankynugget

3:58 pm, Monday, February 14, 2011...

Crankynuggets,

You are quite the enigma, aren't you ?Considering what you just said 3 hours ago in response to me - I now know that you and I are way too much alike.

But I still don't get it. Yeah, OK, you've taught yourself to hate "tweakers" as a last ditch effort to keep yourself on the straight track, and that's fine by me.I personally do not trust tweakers or have any use for them. Tweakers are typically lame, untrustworthy, unskilled, talentless opportunists who would felate a hobo in an alley if there was a draw on the pipe in it for them.And despite my life as a junkie and an outlaw, I DO NOT hate the police. Except when the cop in question cannot conform to the morality of being not only a cop but a human being as well.I do not believe in God either, because the whole "God story" is too stupid and incredible to argue over.You and I might even get along with each other and quite likely are acquainted with some of the same people.But, sir, I just cannot understand how you can justify what Richard Chrisman did and said in that South Phoenix trailer home of Mrs. Fernandez, and you can't seem to see that shooting a house pet that presented no peril to the cops and then murdering a kid who was not armed (on "G" or not) is not how things are done. And that his actions qualify him as a terrible cop and a general threat to the community he is supposed to protect and to serve. And that allowing a D.V. call to escalate to this level does, indeed, disqualify Mr. Chrisman as worthy of the badge he wore.

CrankyNugget
CrankyNugget

Your judgment of my character reveals much of your character flaws. As evidenced in your reply, you are quick to judge and quick to condemn. In fact, you have done so with no knowledge of me personally. It's laughable, really.

20 years ago, I was a hardcore, stupid tweaker. I have extensive experience dealing with a wide range of other tweakers. Both peripherally and intimately. I'm an atheist. I don't listen to any talk radio. I'm outside frequently, but I seem to encounter more twits, such as yourself, when I venture into commenting on blogs.

I won't turn off my computer, it's too useful a tool.

The only imbeciles I've noticed today, so far, are you and 'Kit Carson'. So, I suppose I'd offer you similar advise. Take a look in a mirror if you wish to see an imbecile.

Spin it however you want, but this is the tweaker's fault. In fact, if he hadn't caused all of this to begin with, we wouldn't be sitting here exchanging insults. Stick that in your pipe and smoke it.

CrankyNugget
CrankyNugget

So, you agree with me then that the tweaker is responsible for himself being in that situation.

I'm not being snippy, Skippy. You seem to like making arguments for me which I never made. If the cop's found guilty, fine. I don't care. But, that tweaker would probably be alive today if he had behaved in a civilized manner in the first place.

The Death of Me Yet
The Death of Me Yet

Now, Now, Cranky, I at least had respect for your grammatical capabilities and typing-spelling skills, but you had to go and fuck that up with the puppie raper gag.For your information, I only get hard over kittens, and only for girl kitties.I wouldn't want God to think I'm a fag or anything... that's an abomination, ya know.He'll stick your ass in Hell behind that shit.Don't take the world so hard, homie... Chrisman was a p.o.s. cop. He didn't have to kill that kid. Meth or no Meth, if a big fatass cop like him can't overpower a scrawny tweaker without firing on him... he's not a real cop.What will you tell me a year from now when the city writes a check to Mrs. Fernandez for $10,000,000.00 for the wrongful death of her son ? Her lawsuit's a W I N N E R. I guarantee it.Steve Tracy --- Phx.

CrankyNugget
CrankyNugget

You rape puppies. I'm just simply stating facts.

Sawmilljoe
Sawmilljoe

Spin it however YOU want, the cop is going to prison for murder. Guess he wasn't allowed to kill whoever he wants just because he was called to the home...

Docbob498th
Docbob498th

BUTT NUGGET, Here's another idea; look up the state laws regarding use of deadly force. You can have somebody explain the big words to you.

Kit Carson
Kit Carson

So again, your argument is that because a cop is called, he can do whatever he damn well pleases.

Fortunate for us (and for you) - YOU'RE WRONG!

Police must follow the procedures we, society, demand of them. Here, the other cop didn't feel the need for any of the violent acts, especialy the point blank execution, undertaken.

In a civil world, we police the police by holding them accountable. In the less-than-civil world you dream of, we don't.

I like my world better than yours, and I bet if you thought about, so would you.

To borrow from the vulgate: here's an idea, if you don't like being held accountable when you shoot a man who didn't need shot, don't go around shooting people.

You can't be a bad cop if you're not a cop at all.

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