Medical Marijuana Proponents Remain Hopeful, Despite Early Results

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Andrew Myers of Arizona Medical Marijuana Policy Project checks preliminary results on Prop 203.
As initial poll results start to come in, Proposition 203 -- the Arizona Medical Marijuana Initiative -- is losing by a small margin. The mood at Alice Cooper'stown-- where supporters of Prop 203 have gathered to await election results -- is one of reserved excitement and hope.

About 100 people (most dressed in suits and dresses) are gathered on the patio at this "rock and jock" restaurant on Jackson Street, surrounded by "Yes! On Prop 203" signs. On the patio deck at Cooper'stown are members of the Arizona Medical Marijuana Policy Project, the group that authored and sponsored Prop 203.
 
Initial results -- with 153 precincts reporting -- showed Prop 203 down by about 3 percent of the vote. The project's Andrew Myers pointed out that the votes came mostly from Prescott, which is "not one of our stronger support areas."

 

As of this writing, 520 precincts had reported. "We're down by 20,000 votes, but the big counties haven't reported yet."

We'll keep you posted on Valley Fever and report the reactions on the Prop 203 vote -- be they jubilant party or tragic sadness -- once the final results are in.

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Mpeterson
Mpeterson

You said it, it's pure hypocracy!!! I'm sick and tired of all the ridiculous ads that run too, demonizing it, and making purely fictional statements about its effects. My favorite are the ones that depict a user who's never done anything with his life, as a result of using it. Please!!!! I have 2 bachelor's degrees, both of which I graduated Magna Cum Laude, and smoked my entire college career. It was the only way I could endure the pain of sitting in a chair for 8+ hrs daily (I have numerous herniated disks in my back and neck), reading, studying, typing, doing homework, etc... And I now own and operate my own business, which has been profitable, despite the economy, since its start 4 years ago. So much for the guy sitting on the couch doing nothing with his life, like in those ads!!! One other ad that really makes me sick, is the one that talks about driving under the influence. How many of the people who tested positive were also under the influence of alcohol? They conveniently leave that part out, however. It's a proven fact that Alcohol actually seeps into the outer tissue surrounding the brain, when consumed, and the first thing it effects is your ability to reason (i.e.; such as whether you're sober enough to drive or not). This is not the case with marijuana. If you're too high to drive, you'll know it, and can make a rational decision to wait until your head's more clear, before venturing out on the roads. I got caught once when I was young, with a random drug test, and had to attend drug classes as a result, in order to keep my job at that time. The entire class had to do with Alcohol, for some reason, and included my having to attend AA meetings (go figure!!!). When I asked what harmful effects marijuana had on the body, I was given a whopping 1 harmful effect, that being the same as cigarettes, in that inhaling the smoke is bad for the lungs. When I asked about Alcohol, I was given the following long term effects: (1) damage to liver (liver inflamation or cirrhosis), (2) narrows out the bones in your spine/vertebra leading to back problems, (3) damage to the brain itself, (4) nerve damage, (5) bleeding in the esophagus, (6) erectile disfunction, (7) insomnia, (8) depression, (9) alcoholism, (10) heart disease, (11) increased risk of certain types of cancer, (12) Man Boobs (obviously not the technical name for this symptom, lol...), and the list went on. We need someone to take some initiative and start making commercials about the myths of marijuana, to battle against those commercials that air, promoting the myths. I'd gladly contribute money towards that end!!!

Bicklebickle
Bicklebickle

ITS JUST WEED!!!!!!!! Jesus Christ, people act as if its crack cocaine!! Alcohol causes 200 times more accidents, addictions and deaths than pot. I mean really, have you ever heard of someone smoking weed and going and killing their wife? No... Have you heard of people drinking and then killing their spouse? Yes!!!Thats okay, I'll still smoke it! Haha!!

That_darn_good2003
That_darn_good2003

Good job Az, for not passing this prop. Now criminals/Pushers can continue getting rich without working! Smart move.

DV
DV

I never saw one commercial on television for 203! I never saw one ad in any paper besides New Times, get real the people who read new times are 1. not likely voters 2. already voting for it if they are a voter! The opposition had links to all the papers in AZ and encouraged people to write letters, I had to use their website to get those links! I only had one letter printed, but I sent respectful and compassionate letters to every paper in Arizona, I tried!

Ed Gogek for KADF had a dozen letters printed and not one of them had a single truth! Media bias was pronounced, but where was the voice of this "campaign"? Public meeting were attended by maybe 1000 Arizonans total, was that something the campaign manger really should have been doing? The lies about abuse and public safety had no merits or basis in reality where were the public rebuttals? Only 2% of the population gets MMJ in States that have wisely decriminalized it, 2% of those(untruthful claims of the opposition) would only be 1 valid patient in 2,500 adults in out state! Teen marijuana use typically drops in MMJ states, distracted drivers kill 100 times more people than MMJ! Soros had a million to throw away in Cal. but not a few bucks to defeat these lying prohibitionists and sell out politicians in their pockets here? you couldn't spare the pocket change for a few 30 second spots catching them in even one of these huge lies? Last time this passed I still remember the TV spots showing patients asking for some compassion, did the polls really give AMMPP such a false sense of security you could let this get away by maybe 0.2% of the votes?!

This is about patients, not about legalization! If we lose because of the empty lies of the opposition and the total failure of the campaign I'm going to be both sad and pissed off! Hey AMMPP, you want to know who I am? I'm they guy that left numerous emails and phone messages over the last couple months trying to get in contact with one person to get signs to put up in my neck of the woods after I donated to you!If 203 doesn't pass know that you didn't just waste an opportunity, you failed! This wasn't just political cause that you were on the payroll of, this is about helping thousands of Arizonans that truly are in need of this for some improvement in their lives!

DV

nignomikksz
nignomikksz

It will bring many monies and jobbys to all the people AZ. Something's gotta happen... and it needs to happen nooowww....

Mike Wasdin
Mike Wasdin

Well there you have it! The sheeple spoke and through "Dumbocracy" they have decided that they should have a say in how other people get to live their life. These people do not deserve freedom, because they do not know how to handle it. Every moronic voter that voted this down deserves to be put into chains and made a slave because they are too stupid to be free!

Free Country? What a joke!

Motherof3
Motherof3

If any of you actually read the proposition you would realize it is completely full of loopholes. One loophole in particular is to allow for anyone over the age of 21 to say they are a caregiver and grow up to 12 plants per cardholder for up to 5 people. There is nothing regulating how many adults can be "caregivers" and grow plants for cardholders on one property. There is nothing in the prop regulating weather or not those "caregivers" have to be a legal citizen of the US just that they are not a felon. do the math 5 patients 12 plants each = 60 plants...now lets say you happen to get 5 illegal "caregivers" growing in one house each with a max if 5 patients that is 300 marijuana plants grown for a total of 25 patients. Sounds like a loophole that would let the drug cartel legally grow and sell marijuana in the US. Thats why I voted No on Prop 203. I agree that it should be legal for those who actually need to use it for medical purposes, however, I believe they should make this airtight from abuse of the proposition. PS: yes taxing it in CA makes the government money....CA is still in a financial crisis...this is not a quick fix for our economy this is a quick fix for the agenda of the marijuana users not for the people that actually would need to use it. One last thing. I see repeatedly in these posts that Marijuana is no more harmful than cigarettes or its just as harmful as cigarettes well answer this question...if its just as harmful as cigarettes are why would I want to legalize it? Didn't your mother ever tell you two wrongs don't make a right? Or was she high all your childhood?

Dyskad024
Dyskad024

I'm sorry but what the hell is this talking about ok loopholes, lets figure this out do you not think its a loophole for the government in this state, which by the way we all voted on, to pull over anyone they see fit, literally if you look Latin or black or Hindi they have the right to pull you over search your vehicle detain you with no cause at all because of how you look. it was a loophole built into a regulation that this state voted on sure as a white women with 3 kids you didn't care about this and probably voted yes to this but for a loophole in which growers who are already growing plants making it legal for them is against you right; and you understand the state/country that you live in this whole rant of yours is completely hypocritical, my wonder is were you stupid enough to vote yes on 302 even though you are a mother of 3 kids? just remember drug dealers paying taxes makes it so we all know who they are as a mother it will be your responsibility to make sure your children don't get the wrong idea because no matter what MJ is not going anywhere anytime soon

Charles Ward
Charles Ward

You say that like loopholes would be a bad thing. They're like the tasty center of a delicious chocolate truffle!

Bath Tubfart
Bath Tubfart

I use marijuana after a night of drinking to recover from the ill effects of hangovers (nausea, headaches, etc... Marijuana works so well for me that I can absolutely understand how their is a medical use for it. I hope this Prop passes!

And anyways.... what medical use is their from ingesting alcohol? I can't think of a single one, yet its legal? C'mon guys... wake up

Robert Purdy
Robert Purdy

Are you guys high or what. Just kidding. NOT. Realy I want this to pass

AT1990
AT1990

obvious troll is obvious

nick
nick

to jeff and any other sad people : I aggree with L91192! He should have mentioned that you have canabinoid receptors in your body something you were born with isnt that kind of ironic? and that there have been 0 deaths from marijuana while many from each of the drugs you listed you. marijuana is not a bad plant at all marijuana and its close family have more heplful products in them than most things. as well that everything is good no bad untill you smoke it wrongly with a vap. you get none of all the bad chemicals from smoking. so its the persons choice if they want to add that extra factor. its a shame something so helpful is so hated on and probally alot of the ones who say no smoke cancer sticks those should be illgeal not the ganja

Leonard
Leonard

You are in no position to say anything about another persons intelligence or ignorance Jeff, since you are clearly a fucking buffoon who believes everything he is supposed to.

Try thinking for yourself and doing your own research Jeff, though its clear you lack the acuemen for such an endevour.

Darklightercharm
Darklightercharm

the only reason it is concidered illigal is because it puts 3 of the biggest industries in jeperdy the tobacco companies lumber companies and textile companies the major cash cows in america but if it were made legal they would need people to run dispenseries and growers something the economy needs is the increase of jobs not legilizing it would show that america would much rather send its moneys overseas then keep it within the people

Emileebubs
Emileebubs

The ONLY reason that weed is bad is because there are people who use it irresponsibly. Like teenagers who do it for fun. But is this bill meant for them? No. It's meant for people who are constantly in pain that cannot use regular medications. Like my dad. He suffers from chronic kidney disease and nearly any prescription or over-the-counter medication he takes makes him extremely sick. But since he is RESPONSIBLE, he can smoke some weed, feel better, and not be stupid around people. Have some faith people. The people who need it most are the ones who show it by being responsible. So lay off a little.

Lamar91192
Lamar91192

(to Jeff) your a very stupid bias dumba$$. and some people who are really sick cant handle swallowing pills or shots so they smoke and for you to try and come on here and make a statement full of bias statements makes you look pretty stupid. you dont know shit people like you think they know things but really smart people laugh at people like you

token black guy
token black guy

Why has nobody talked about the fact that legalizing marijuana will cut down on the rapidly expanding drug trade with the most dangerous city in the world, which is right outside of the state I live in. I guess its all fun and games until a white man is beheaded or a white hospital is shot up leaving innocent white folks dead.

Hollywood627g
Hollywood627g

Hey spook, how would u like it if spooks started getting beheaded and spooks started vetting shot up along with there spook hospital?

Stuart
Stuart

alright Jeff you obviousley have never smoked pot and have been brainwashed by reefer madness propaganda. i truly feel sorry for you because you are this blindly ignorant. Also i just wanted to tell you about the different ways you can administer marijuana that does not cause any harm to your body like smoking it does. Smoking weed is bad for your lungs just because your taking in burnt plant matter, fortunatly the smoke is not radioactive like cigarrette smoke is so you wont contract cancer. however there is several ways to take in cannabis that has nothing to do with smoking. 1. you can use a vaporizer which allows you to only inhale the THC vapors instead of smoke. 2. you can cook the THC into butter or some kind of fatty oil because THC is highly soluble in lipids which is fat. 3. you can brew cannabis into coffee because along with lipids it is soluble into caffeine as well.

constantbuddahsmoker
constantbuddahsmoker

So if marijuana were legal people are afraid of what exactly?Oh yes the fact that our nurses, doctors, and other proffessionals would apparently come to work HIGH??? Sounds like a lot of B.S. to me, alchohol is extremley legal yet do nurses, doctors, and other proffessionalls come to work DRUNK??? If i'm wrong lay it on me.

Jeff is an ignorant fuck
Jeff is an ignorant fuck

People dont smoke 24 blunts a day like they do cigarettes..... As for driving weed impairs you maybe by having a tiny bit less focus, or maybe your decision making ability is slightly slowed down. But DRINKING? are you fucking stupid. Ill take a bong rip for every shot you take, and well see who crashes into a building first. Alchohol impairs vision, motors skills, and the thought proccess ENOURMOUSLY.. Its harder to detect because it affects you less jackass. Of course its easy to see the drunk guy swerving, but we never suspected that high guy.. damn hes so dangerous. Oh yeah and im sure everyone who has cancer wants to be hopped up on morphine, or oxycodones and cant function rather than a little stoned and pain free. I have Chrons disease, and never smoked weed in MY LIFE until i couldnt sleep for days with abdominal pain and constant diarhea and vomiting blood. Does that make me a stoner? Becuase i smoke, ONLY to relieve pain? You think i didnt try those drugs? Try bieng a normal person walking around on oxycodones. YOU are the only one who is ignorant, you are such a stupid fuck. I hope that you get a debilitating disease and someone tells you what you can and cant use to ease your pain. THat was all directed towards JEFF...

Emileebubs
Emileebubs

Whoever you are, I want to meet you man. I love you already.

Fukoff44
Fukoff44

americans are so fucking stupid. i have lost faith in this country and its voters. TAKE THE BLINDERS OFF. these are the same people that think the president actually has anything to do with what goes on. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...

Stuart
Stuart

Marijuana needs to be legal in this country, right now it is easier for teenagers to get pot rather than alcohol and ciggarrettes. Thats because alchohol and ciggarrettes are REGULATED! if a teenager wants to buy alcohol or tobacco they have to first find somone who is of age that is actually willing to buy for them. When it comes to buying marijuana all they have to do is have the cash and a dealer will sell them a bag and p.s. DRUG DEALERS DONT CARE ABOUT HOW OLD THEIR CUSTOMERS ARE! so if we make marijuana legal we can tax it, and regulate it. so not only are you going to put thousands of two bit drug dealers out of business but your going to create a barrier for young people to purchace marijuana. Also prohibition obviously has not worked especially since the people who grow and distribute the plant actually oppose it being legal so lets do the right thing and legalize it already its about time we start making money off this stuff. and to tracy who thinks that you cant make money off of this because you can grow it in your back yard I just wanna say why would somebody take the time and effort to grow marijuana if they could just go to their local convenient store and buy a bag. for example people have the ability to brew their own beer but most people dont because they can just go buy a six pack.

usssolle
usssolle

I dont get it. In every forum or blog nationwide there more people for weed than against it.. I think there is a conspiracy.

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Well, 60% of Arizona registered (~ 2 million) voters didn't bother to vote. Probably similar in California. Prop 203 is behind by a few hundred votes. Maybe more people should vote if it's important to them.

Jenna Schaffer
Jenna Schaffer

Both my mother-in-law and I voted yes on prop. 203 and we live in prescott...

GOPcanRotinHell!!!!
GOPcanRotinHell!!!!

It's funny that the people of this country are screaming "WHERE'S THE JOBS!?!?" Yet, it seems like this ballot initiative (and to a further extent, California's prop. 19) will not pass. I will have ZERO sympathy for every American who voted no on these initiatives. Full legalization across the country would have opened up MILLIONS and I mean MILLIONS!!!! of jobs!! Yet, the paranoid, mostly GOP-"family friendly" idiots voted against it; along with scaring others into voting no. After tonight, I no longer feel hope, or nice towards any of these idiots. I hope they all get their jobs outsourced; because that's what they just voted for!!!

Timeofdeparture
Timeofdeparture

EXACTLY!!! AMERICANS ARE RETARDS!! its going to BE HERE EITHER WAY FOLKS!!! so why are you outsourcing our jobs??? do you know how much money is going STRAIGHT TO CANADA??? and leaving the u.s. EVERY DAY!?!?! you might as well just accept it so we can rebuild our economy..do your research its the most resourceful plant there IS.

Swed4life
Swed4life

It needs to be passed. Im sick of all the backwards thinking going on in this country. Why are cigarettes and alcohol accepted in society while a natural plant like marijuana is demonized? Wake up people and see what hypocrisy is going on.

Zanderdeez
Zanderdeez

Common marijuana myths for those that dont know what they are talking about

1. Marijuana causes brain damage

The most celebrated study that claims to show brain damage is the rhesus monkey study of Dr. Robert Heath, done in the late 1970s. Their results were published under the title, Marijuana and Health in 1982. Heath's work was sharply criticised for its insufficient sample size (only four monkeys), its failure to control experimental bias, and the misidentification of normal monkey brain structure as "damaged". Actual studies of human populations of marijuana users have shown no evidence of brain damage. For example, two studies from 1977, published in the Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA) showed no evidence of brain damage in heavy users of marijuana. That's not the sort of thing you'd expect if the AMA thought marijuana damaged the brain.

2. Can Marijuana damage reproductive organs

This claim is based chiefly on the work of Dr. Gabriel Nahas, who experimented with tissue (cells) isolated in petri dishes, and the work of researchers who dosed animals with near-lethal amounts of cannabinoids (i.e., the intoxicating part of marijuana). Nahas' generalisations from his petri dishes to human beings have been rejected by the scientific community as being invalid. In the case of the animal experiments, the animals that survived their ordeal returned to normal within 30 days of the end of the experiment. Studies of actual human populations have failed to demonstrate that marijuana adversely affects the reproductive system.

3. Marijuana is a "gateway" drug

This is one of the more persistent myths. A real world example of what happens when marijuana is readily available can be found in Holland. The Dutch partially legalised marijuana in the 1970s. Since then, hard drug use-heroin and cocaine-have DECLINED substantially. If marijuana really were a gateway drug, one would have expected use of hard drugs to have gone up, not down. This apparent "negative gateway" effect has also been observed in the United States. Studies done in the early 1970s showed a negative correlation between use of marijuana and use of alcohol. A 1993 Rand Corporation study that compared drug use in states that had decriminalised marijuana versus those that had not, found that where marijuana was more available-the states that had decriminalised-hard drug abuse as measured by emergency room episodes decreased. In short, what science and actual experience tell us is that marijuana tends to substitute for the much more dangerous hard drugs like alcohol, cocaine, and heroin.

4. Marijuana hurts the immune system

Like the studies claiming to show damage to the reproductive system, this myth is based on studies where animals were given extremely high-in many cases, near-lethal-doses of cannabinoids. These results have never been duplicated in human beings. Interestingly, two studies done in 1978 and one done in 1988 showed that hashish and marijuana may have actually stimulated the immune system in the people studied.

5. Marijuana is more addictive than tobacco

Smoked marijuana contains about the same amount of carcinogens as does an equivalent amount of tobacco. It should be remembered, however, that a heavy tobacco smoker consumes much more tobacco than a heavy marijuana smoker consumes marijuana. This is because smoked tobacco, with a 90% addiction rate, is the most addictive of all drugs while marijuana is less addictive than caffeine. Two other factors are important. The first is that paraphernalia laws directed against marijuana users make it difficult to smoke safely. These laws make water pipes and bongs, which filter some of the carcinogens out of the smoke, illegal and, hence, unavailable. The second is that, if marijuana were legal, it would be more economical to have cannabis drinks like bhang (a traditional drink in the Middle East) or tea which are totally non-carcinogenic. This is in stark contrast with "smokeless" tobacco products like snuff which can cause cancer of the mouth and throat. When all of these facts are taken together, it can be clearly seen that the reverse is true: marijuana is much SAFER than tobacco.

6. Legal marijuana would cause ill social hazards

Although marijuana, when used to intoxication, does impair performance in a manner similar to alcohol, actual studies of the effect of marijuana on the automobile accident rate suggest that it poses LESS of a hazard than alcohol. When a random sample of fatal accident victims was studied, it was initially found that marijuana was associated with RELATIVELY as many accidents as alcohol. In other words, the number of accident victims intoxicated on marijuana relative to the number of marijuana users in society gave a ratio similar to that for accident victims intoxicated on alcohol relative to the total number of alcohol users. This finding has been supported by other research using completely different methods. For example, an economic analysis of the effects of decriminalisation on marijuana usage found that states that had reduced penalties for marijuana possession experienced a rise in marijuana use and a decline in alcohol use with the result that fatal highway accidents decreased. This would suggest that, far from causing "carnage", legal marijuana might actually save lives.

7. Marijuana "flattens" human brainwaves and causes neural brain waves

This is an out-and-out lie perpetrated by the Partnership for a Drug-Free America. A few years ago, they ran a TV ad that purported to show, first, a normal human brainwave, and second, a flat brainwave from a 14-year-old "on marijuana". When researchers called up the TV networks to complain about this commercial, the Partnership had to pull it from the air. It seems that the Partnership faked the flat "marijuana brainwave". In reality, marijuana has the effect of slightly INCREASING alpha wave activity. Alpha waves are associated with meditative and relaxed states which are, in turn, often associated with human creativity.

8. Marijuana is more potent today than in the past

This myth is the result of bad data. The researchers who made the claim of increased potency used as their baseline the THC content of marijuana seized by police in the early 1970s. Poor storage of this marijuana in un-air conditioned evidence rooms caused it to deteriorate and decline in potency before any chemical assay was performed. Contemporaneous, independent assays of unseized "street" marijuana from the early 1970s showed a potency equivalent to that of modern "street" marijuana. Actually, the most potent form of this drug that was generally available was sold legally in the 1920s and 1930s by the pharmaceutical company Smith-Klein under the name, "American Cannabis".

9. Marijuana impairs short-term memory

This is true but misleading. Any impairment of short-term memory disappears when one is no longer under the influence of marijuana. Often, the short-term memory effect is paired with a reference to Dr. Heath's poor rhesus monkeys to imply that the condition is permanent.

10. Marijuana lingers in the body like DDT

This is also true but misleading. Cannabinoids are fat soluble as are innumerable nutrients and, yes, some poisons like DDT. For example, the essential nutrient, Vitamin A, is fat soluble but one never hears people who favour marijuana prohibition making this comparison.

11. There are over a thousand chemicals in marijuana smoke

Again, true but misleading. The 31 August 1990 issue of the magazine Science notes that of the over 800 volatile chemicals present in roasted COFFEE, only 21 have actually been tested on animals and 16 of these cause cancer in rodents. Yet, coffee remains legal and is generally considered fairly safe.

12. No one has ever died of a marijuana overdose

This is true. It was put in to see if you are paying attention. Animal tests have revealed that extremely high doses of cannabinoids are needed to have lethal effect. This has led scientists to conclude that the ratio of the amount of cannabinoids necessary to get a person intoxicated (i.e., stoned) relative to the amount necessary to kill them is 1 to 40,000. In other words, to overdose, you would have to consume 40,000 times as much marijuana as you needed to get stoned. In contrast, the ratio for alcohol varies between 1 to 4 and 1 to 10. It is easy to see how upwards of 5000 people die from alcohol overdoses every year and no one EVER dies of marijuana overdoses.

Zanderdeez
Zanderdeez

oh did i mention more jobs for everybody

Zanderdeez
Zanderdeez

Let me just say my parents have very different views on this issue. My step dad who has screwed up his life drinking and smoking (among other stupid decisions) votes against it,but my mom who doesn't drink much (maybe a glass of wine once a month) or smoke (anything) is a registered nurse and who's brother(my uncle) died from drug related issues is voting yes on prop 203

Jeff
Jeff

thats probably one of the dumbest things ive ever heard. ever heard the saying two wrongs dont make a right? just because there are things that people are allowed to do doesnt mean bring more things to the table. also, pot has 50-70 percent more carcinogens than cigarettes. another thing, it just makes roads more dangerous. Its harder to detect than alcohol and it takes much less quantity of it to impair you than alcohol. There are much better alternatives than medical marijuana that have worked for people for years such as oxycodone, fentanyl, hydromorphone, and morphine. The ONLY people who think this prop should be passed are stoners and youre all ignorant.

hippo
hippo

Nice encourage use o oxys aka synthetic heroin real smart fact majority of herion users started from prescriptions drugs wow jeff really. How uneducated on the topic are you? Gzz ignoranus

Nix Hot Wife
Nix Hot Wife

Yeah dude your right all those prescription meds are legal and there are more people hopelessly addicted to them too. It's painfully obvious you have no idea what you are talking about. You think it makes the roads more dangerous, got news for you man, more people are killed by drunk drivers then pot smokers and yet it's perfectly legal to drink yourself stupid and then get behind the wheel of a car and kill yourself or others. Yet we are talking about legalizing a plant that doesn't kill people and all you ignorant people come out of the woodwork with all your out of date conceptions about it and call us ignorant because we want it to be legal. Cigarettes and alcohol are completely legal and kill more people than anything else. You take 13 tylenol and that will be the last headache you ever have, and you want to talk about narcotic pain relievers like they are ok, you can OD on those just as easy as anything else yet here is a plant you can smoke and it is impossible to OD and is NOT addictive (the only people who clam is is are the people who have no idea and say it is to keep it illegal, but you talk to any "stoner" and they will tell you different) It's people like you Jeff that have no idea what your talking about, it's you the ignorant ones who point at us and act like we don't know what we are talking about. I wish you people would wake the hell up. Stop talking about thing you clearly have no idea about.

Lindsey
Lindsey

Oh yeah hardcore drugs like oxycodone, fentanyl and morphine are so much better for you. Dumping harcore chemicals into an already sick body causing extreme nausea and other horrid side affects like liver damage is the way to go! Lets never allow a sick cancer patient to experience the soothing affects of marajuana and instead inject them full of dangerous drugs that lead to other addictions like METH AND HEROIN! GOOD CALL!!!

Not
Not

If "pot" is grown in your back yard it doesn't contain anymore carcinogens than your lawn does. The only carcinogens that it does contain is what we put in it from the growing process to make it grow faster and more potent. Cigarettes are more addictive and worse on your body than marijuana will ever be. I agree two wrongs don't make a right, but "pot" should never been illegal to begin with. Why make a natural growing plant illegal? Because bible thumpers from the 50's and 60's persuaded congress to make it illegal. Scare tactics have kept the ignorant more ignorant and scared to do any research on marijuana. If you would actually read from non-biased reports you would see there are few if any long-term side effects. You might say "it causes cancer" research shows anything can cause cancer. Cancer is just a abnormal grown cell that reproduces to cause a tumor. So let's make sunshine, eggs, milk, crayons, and sleeping illegal. They all have potential to cause cancer.

Bath Tubfart
Bath Tubfart

You couldn't be more wrong, Jeff. I actually feel sorry for you and your beliefs.

Psychedelic_daisy
Psychedelic_daisy

in a recent study it proved that alcohol is one of the most dangerous things you can put in your body not even crystal meth was worse. Marijuana is one of the least harmful things you can consume as far as "drugs" go. yes it impairs you but it would be used as a prescription, you're not supposed to drive while intoxicated on anything and it does not impair you more than alcohol and for people who smoke on a daily basis it takes a hell of a lot of pot to get so high you can function. By legalizing, even medicinally, it would drop crime rates simply for the fact that less of it would be coming through the Arizona/Mexico border which means less drug cartel. People need to focus more on what's actually a problem then whether or not some kid is smoking pot in his basement. There are a lot more things to be concerned about. Maybe you should check your facts before you voice your opinion.

John Hairofalo
John Hairofalo

ignorance is bliss jeff..u live in your own high obviously. You sound so baked on your idea that I hope that next time there will be a prop Jeff so we can vote yes to be as high as you are.

Rob
Rob

Jeff:

If you were trolling, that was excellent.

If you were serious...

Megan
Megan

you think oxycodone is safe & marijuana has more carcinogens than cigarettes????? seriously?? where in the world so you get your information?? you would rather have someone on oxycodone on the road than someone on marijuana?? do you have any idea the effects of painkillers? besides this prop is for people with SEVERE illnesses. such as cancer and AIDS. you think those people are just going to smoke up and then go for a joyride? most are probably bedridden. what would you do if your mother got cancer and the only thing that helped her keep food down during chemo was pot? you wouldnt want her to have it?? you are the ignorant one. do some research Jeff before you go spouting off at the mouth.

Mac
Mac

Wow.... I take it you have never had cronic Pain because to say that taking Fentanyl is better, is idiotic. I can exist without being in a stupor, without the possibility of a overdose and able to regulate my medicinal needs much better.And where did you come up with 50 -70% more carcinogens ? Put the booze down and actually learn a bit about it. There are many ways to use it. smoking is only one way.

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yahoo-YLZGUZNMKYS5QFMR7GR3WI2OEA

I guess you don't know that Tylenol kills more people every year than every other drug combined, legal and illegal. Might want to do some research.

Me
Me

You are so ignorant Jeff, it must be painful. If not, then it should be.

Urit83
Urit83

you are an idiot,apparently you are one of those pillheads that seem to think because someone with a degree tells a chemical is safer it is.How easy is it to detect someone who just popped a oxycodone and decided to go for a drive?I don't know where you got your info on the carcinogens, but you are wrong.

Emileebubs
Emileebubs

Certain people like my father, who has a chronic illness, cannot take medicine like those simply because they make him throw up and sicker. Marijuana is the only way for him to get rid of his pain sometimes. I think your the ignorant one. PLUS, I know more people who get addicted to prescriptions like those and fall asleep behind the wheel and similar situations rather than RESPONSIBLE users of marijuana.

Chrsc354
Chrsc354

Really, the ONLY people who think prop 203 should be passed are stoners and ignorant people, what about the people with CANCER! Have you ever read the side effects for oxy and all the other horrible drugs you listed? Have you ever actually taken any of these drugs? Some people may not respond to heavy narcotics very well. Marijuana is not just for stoners, it is a medicine and a natural one at that. It has been helping people for years and is already legalized in California for medical purposes and it has helped hundreds of thousands of people. What is the big deal?

JSmith
JSmith

Well in regards to you saying that the only people who think this prop should be passed are stoners, I can say that I have never smoke marijuana in my life and I am very much in support of this bill passing. Do you really think you can control people doing drugs just by making it illegal? Obviously that is not true, and obviously that is not working seeing as how millions of people are STILL doing drugs. If someone wants to do drugs, they are going to do them whether it is illegal or not. All having a law against drugs does is create a violent black market (think pre-prohibition of alcohol) and fill our prisons with nonviolent "criminals". If marijuana and other drugs were legal, yes people would still do them (just like they are doing currently) but it would eliminate most of the crime surrounding the issue. Stop trying to control people and worry about yourself.

Kellie602
Kellie602

Clearly you have not done your research. Medical marijuana isn't just used for pain. The medication is also used to treat nausea and vomiting. It can be the difference between life or death in those suffering from some of the most vile diseases man has seen. Medications the pharmaceutical companies push on the poor and suffering are so expensive that insurance companies won't even cover them. When it comes to Prop 203- I'm pro life and choose to allow my fellow citizens to not live in pain or die suffering. The ignorance you speak of comes from the uneducated people who choose to voice their opinions with nothing to hold it true.

Ian
Ian

Jeff, you my friend are absolutely incorrect. Legalization of medicinal marijuana would be the most progressive and beneficial thing that could happen to this state. To start, Marijuana is the least detrimental and most natural substance. If you feel like filling up on prescription medications with countless side effects and many negative long term results, then help yourself, but for the rest of the world, marijuana has proved to have countless benefits with limited to no side effects for patients of Glaucoma, cancer, HIV/AIDS, Multiple sclerosis, Epilepsy and seizures, Ulcerative Colitis and Crones Disease. The amount of deaths and injuries resulting from alcohol are insurmountable. How many fatalities are related to the consumption of Marijuana? Close to none. Just because you're a closed minded, arrogant redneck, you should check your facts before you begin preaching your regressive agenda. Also, legalization of Medicinal marijuana would cut down on drug cartel violence, taxing it would give the economy the stimulus it needs to re-boot itself and countless more jobs would be created in agriculture and sales.

Blair
Blair

How many people die from oxycontin/morphine overdose per year? around 10,000.... People that die from marijuana each year=0..... cannabis doesnt cause cancer. in fact it may actually decrease tumor size in mutant cells i.e. cancer cells according to UCLA medical study by Dr. Tashkin

Dustywpalmer
Dustywpalmer

you are a complete moron and have obviously not done your research. Spatting out inequalities is irrelevant. Oxycontin is on the same level as heroine and can be bought easier. look it up fuckface. ps liver damage. mike phelps is a eight time gold medalist ask him how smoking marijuana is affection his atheltic carrer with all those carcinogens.

Lde
Lde

Yeah, because opiates aren't addictive, easily to overdose, and have don't detrimental side effects.

Timeofdeparture
Timeofdeparture

you just named a list of addictive drugs...and yet you put down a plant which has been cultivated for thousands of years???? FACT is FACT and you CANT OD on pot...yet you CAN OD on Tylenol if you wanted.

Allexcasey1
Allexcasey1

First it doesn't matter how much more carcinogens it has because there not smoking a pack of joints every day. And by the way half those alternatives are much more harmful than marijuana...

Bicklebickle
Bicklebickle

Can you cite any credible sources that can back up your claim? I didnt think so!!!

tracy
tracy

I believe its all about money and you cant make that much money of MJ if anyone can grow it in there back yard. I think thats the plain and simple truth.

Zanderdeez
Zanderdeez

your not allowed to grow tobacco in your backyard either.

Andy
Andy

Where does it say cultivation would be legal?

BJeff
BJeff

Cultivation of a limited number of plants would have been legal if a patient lived more than 25 miles away from the nearest licensed dispensary.

Psychedelic_daisy
Psychedelic_daisy

In California you're allowed to grow on a small portion of your property but they limit the square footage and the number of plants a single person can grow.

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