Prop 203 Analysis: How Arizona's Medical Marijuana Measure Could Win; Plus, What Happened?

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We've crunched the latest numbers, analyzed the trend and spoken to campaign experts about the incredibly close race of Proposition 203.


Our take: Arizona's medical marijuana measure will fail without a minor miracle. But we won't burst anyone's bubble yet, 'cause the race isn't finished. As you'll see below, the Prop could still eke out a win.


In our blog post this morning, we mentioned that two voting precincts from Pima County -- which voted "yes" in a big way for 203 -- were outstanding. Well, those votes came in this afternoon and didn't change the totals much. About 1,800 more votes were counted, but they were skewed the same way as other Pima County votes -- with about a 58 to 42 percent split.


The prop needs to do better than the status quo, if it's to win based on the tens of thousands of votes that will be counted in the next few days.


Statewide, 374,000 votes need to be counted, says Matthew Benson of the Arizona Secretary of State's Office. About 274,000 of those are in Maricopa County alone. Another 47,500 are from Pima County. The uncounted votes are made up of early ballots that were dropped off the polls on Election Day, and provisional ballots, which are cast when some problem affects a voter's normal ballot.


Prop 203 was still trailing by about 6,500 as of 5 p.m.

If the people who cast these early and provisional ballots in Maricopa County are the same type of people who mailed in their early ballots, the prop's will go down. For whatever reason, voters who mailed in their ballots skewed much more toward the "no" end. Our calculator shows that 57 percent of early voters supported Prop 203, while 60 percent didn't.

That's quite a different result than the overall Maricopa County total, which was more like 50-50. The reason: More Prop 203 supporters showed up in person to cast their votes. Of the walk-in voters in Maricopa County, 40 percent voted against Prop 203, while 43 voted for it.

Okay, now for the micro-analysis. (We'll ignore all counties but Pima and Maricopa for a moment.)

Assuming that the remaining uncounted votes in Pima County will split along the same lines as the rest of Pima County, there still won't be nearly enough "yes" votes to counter the Maricopa trend -- if the trend is more like the mailed-in ballots.


Imagine for a moment, though, that maybe a lot of these early ballots were dropped off at the polls by procrastinating pot smokers. Maybe the early-ballot trend in Maricopa will be reversed, so that the Election Day ballot droppers are voting like the people who cast normal ballots yesterday. In that case, Prop 203 will win by a few thousand votes.


Spoiler Alert: Brad Nelson, the election director for Pima County, says he believes people who turn in their early ballots on Election Day vote the same as people who mail in their ballot. (Which would mean defeat.) Political strategist Jason Rose tells us today that the "yes" side on 203 will "close the gap" as more votes are counted -- but not close it enough.


"Sixty-five-hundred votes is a cause for concern," says Rose, who didn't work on either side of the issue.


So, what happened to the landslide predicted in mid-October by the Rocky Mountain Poll


Earl de Berge of the Behavior Research Center, which conducted the poll, says the "warning signs" were there: Older people and Republicans didn't like 203.


Clearly, that trend had a major effect on a day when Republicans turned out in droves to support their candidates.


What really hurt the prop, de Berge believes, is that Prop 203 supporters were "out-stealthed" in the final two weeks of the campaign.


"The main issue is they just didn't run a campaign," de Berge says, noting the lack of TV ads for the prop. "They didn't want to stir up controversy."


That worked fine for a while, but when opponents blanketed the Valley with anti-203 signs and lined up politicians to blast the measure, the 203 campaign didn't push back, he says.


Andrew Myers of the "Yes on 203" campaign writes in an e-mail that supporters "have zero plans of conceding anytime soon."

With that many votes uncounted, anything's possible.


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Rod Williams
Rod Williams

Fact: Alcohol, nicotine, caffeine and many pharmaceuticals are highly addictive. All are controlled by big business. All are advertised by the minute to men, women and children.Billions are spent by the pusher to create as many addicts as possible. Addicts give a portion of their labor for these products. Big business can charge what they will and as in the case of tobacco, addicts they will pay whatever to get their hourly fix.

A pack of smokes in Australia sells for $15 to $20. Coming here if that test market is successful. People will be killing for funds to purchase nicotine laden products. Like Heroin was in the Fifties, $20 a day habit was a lot. Nicotine is just as lethal as heroin if not more so. Heroin makes one peaceful inside, nicotine does the opposite. Nicotine and Coffee, bad news for man.If you want a treat go to Youtube and check out a 1952 Camel Cigarette commercial, titled, More Doctors Prefer Camels than all other brands. The next shot is a actor/doctor getting into his 1952 Chevrolet, camera from the rear of the vehicle and a big puff of smoke emits from the exhaust. lol, it's all poison.For another treat find The Flintstone's Winston Cigarette commercial which seriously demeans females plus says how wonderful a Winston cigarette tastes.Look at the volume of alcohol commercials that are shown on a daily basis. Our leaders want us to become hooked to these poisons, easier to control the masses I would imagine.Pot is no more addicting than a frozen Yogurt on a hot summer day. Marijuana is a living being, it meets the criteria for life which is, Energy, Mass and Memory, that is what it takes for life to exist. A marijuana plant is a life form just as you and I are a life form. Pot is relaxing and calming and that in itself is healthy, no stress other than being paranoid since here in Az. it's a felony. Can you believe that? The other substances, alcohol, nicotine and caffeine are anything but calming and peaceful. More like violent and short temper.By the way, whatever pills you may be taking, you can Google Search for side effect of (give name of pill), then read them. Take pot for your ills. Mother Nature is the best doctor one can have and we all have Her, it's just that current man is not only the most destructive animal on planet earth but perhaps the more ignorant.One last note, the more intelligent species of life on this planet are the aquatics, specifically the dolphin, they are also the luckiest with 10 times the area as those who stayed on dry land and dolphins do not have automobiles whizzing around spewing oxygen destroying hydrocarbons and running into things.

Dolphins pod leaders are female in every case, the elder female. Being female supports pain is gain and they should lead, Might is right should stay out of the way. Thank you, Rod

Stephany Kendall
Stephany Kendall

Well thats not always true.There is always going to be people who abuse drugs.There has and always will be.My ex boyfriend is 23,he has cancer and he just recently quit Chemotherapy because it was literally killing him from the inside out.He lost his appetite and his hair .So he talked to a few of his doctors and he smokes maybe a joint a day if that to gain his appetite back.Personally I wouldnt call that abusing.SO with that said maybe you should do some research before you go and offend someone.Besides in the state of Arizona we have ALOT of elderly sick people and it would be good for them to legalize medical marijuana,I voted for it and i went to the march.The best part about it is Im 19 years old I voted for it and I dont even smoke Marijuana .So to conclude my story.Put that in your pipe and smoke it quit the bs!

John
John

Illegal or otherwise, if someone wants pot they're going to find it. It's as simple as asking people at a bus stop. Hopefully it passes; I won't have to be so paranoid :]

Timnchs
Timnchs

The one thing they did not take into consideration is that people who smoke marijuana are rarely rushed to vote early so generally the ones who support it will be sure to come in towards the end.

Indianamouse
Indianamouse

all you anti pot heads can pay higher taxes by not giving pot a chance. Just think of the extra money that would generate from the legalizaation of pot. You are talking multi millions. Better schools, roads jobs research and who knows what else. So vote against it and pay higher taxes you fools.

Applebyrd
Applebyrd

Anyone who voted no to this prop. makes me sick! What right do you think you have to tell someone how much they should suffer? The right to vote? This prop should never have gone to vote. The state should do the right thing by the people. No one has the right to tell someone to suffer. And those who voted no... pray that you don't get to suffer like my mother did. If you do, its your own fault!

Keefersfiddle
Keefersfiddle

I am a republican and self liberty and freedom is my core value,. We are slaves to the federal govornment if this prohibition doesnt change.

VW's support 203
VW's support 203

a pothead isnt a criminal .. was an alcoholic a criminal with it was illegal .. then they ended prohibition .. and there all fine now... alcohol has ruined my family for generations .. and was a gateway drug to others .. when us potheads only gatewayed to munchies and possible mushrooms .. because they stayed hippyish .. i myself have been a POW of marijuana for DUI's both times i was on my way home from work .. about a day after i smoked .. totally sober . I had long hair and wasn't in a new car .. so .. they road tested me .. i passed .. then they took me in and made me piss .. everyone knows that weed stays in there for weeks .. so i got f'd .. since then i have quit smoking .. so i can still drive daily legally .. i think i was the only supporter of 203 with it plastered all over my car .. .. do to i had nothing to fear .. know i f i get pulled over im like.. an ass .. and dont let them cops do anything .. cuz i got nothing to fear .. I also got a lot more time do play video games and such cuz im not smoking and .. thinking about where to get it .. although .. these folks gotta think what if prop 19 passed .. because it will in 2012 when all the Obama supporters come out in droves to keep him in .. it will create Cali to have a monopoly on production and sales worldwide .(its goingto be like the production,distribution,and sales of Alcohol ...creating a market like the internet .. new invention for legal money and all these poor states are going to cry that they didn't do it first .. and the world will flock to Cali like Amsterdam .. When this happens or 203 passes i am going to start a company .. a dispensery .. ,distribution , and security force to support .. I be one rich ass independant .. lol

shrox
shrox

Marinol is $3500 for 90 pills...most insurance plans won't cover it.

shrox
shrox

I am a MMJ patient. I was diagnosed with Parkinson's in 2000. After a few years of horrible prescriptions like Requip, which cause me to projectile vomit for about two and half hours a day, I tried marijuana to quell the nausea and vomiting. Then I noticed a significant improvement overall, with two weeks I was no longer crawling up the stairs, after several more weeks I could run again! Inside the THC molecule is a dopamine molecule, and dopamine is the chemical that is lost with Parkinson's! So, yes, there is a very good and legitimate medical use.

Bubblyxo
Bubblyxo

NO to PROP 203!!! If we legalize medical pot, then we can start opening the door to all other "natural" drugs..why not shrooms? that grows from the ground right? aren't poisonous berries also natural, why not eat those while you are it??

And **FYI** do your research, there already is a drug called MARINOL that uses the same ingredients as marijuana and it is used to treat the side effects of chemotherapy. Look at California, medical marijuana is a joke there and it'll be a joke here. Soon everyone from ages 5 to 100+ are going to be high all the time!! Isn't that a threat to our society??

Who cares if alcohol or prescription drugs can kill you from overdosing, if you're dumb enough to overdose then you deserve death as your punishment!!! We don't need more stupid people increasing the risk rate for other such as driving high and killing other INNOCENT people!!!

Bstinkymeyer
Bstinkymeyer

all stubborn old people need to die already. Just because you think something doesnt help medicaly doesnt meen other people in this world could not use it to help with there medical issues. Lets put it this way if we voted on religion all the christians would pick there own religion not realizing that other people in the world like there own religions that make them happy. this is a free country dont let people influence how you feel. be a strong human being and stand up for what you believe in. So when you die like these coward old people. You can die knowing at least my generation wanted medicine accesable for those who needed it.

Spot
Spot

My wife and I are both early ballot voters that dropped our ballots off at the polling station. We both voted yes, but are not procrastinating stoners. We just like to get our I voted today stickers without having to wait in line. Its like fast pass for the polls!

Rightpundit
Rightpundit

i love that...older people & republicans didn't like 203...well i don't like them either. can they just die off already?

keep your laws off my body! if i want to sleep with it, then i should, if i want to smoke or eat it i should, if i don't want to have a baby or take your vaccines i should have the liberty to choose.

J Curwen
J Curwen

Another thing that affected the election IMO was the deliberately staged appearance by one of the local activists on the media with his new dispensary "to be open for business" the day after the election. He pulled that stupid stunt the day before the election. That stunt cost Prop 203 some votes.

RetiredArmy
RetiredArmy

"Earl de Berge of the Behavior Research Center, which conducted the poll, says the "warning signs" were there: Older people and Republicans didn't like 203"

Funny, aren't these the same people who have been screaming at the top of there lungs that they want there freedom back, and want the government out of there life? What a bunch of hypocrites.

Scramjet
Scramjet

A pothead is a pothead is a criminal, is a dope dealer, is a dope pusher, is a pothead.

Dope is for losers.

The Baron
The Baron

If anybody out there believes this proposition's loss is legitimate, they are forgetting the rich history of vote fraud in this country, which is the only possible explanation for these impossible vote tallies. I mean, does the status quo actually expect us to believe, much less accept, that every last voter out there suddenly changed their minds about pot in the month before the election and exactly flip-flopped the results?!? Every poll showed this and Prop 19 next door with comfortable margins of victory until, mysteriously, 2 weeks before the election, the gatekeepers began placing low-key stories about how it probably wouldn't pass due to the numbers suddenly reversing. Does anyone reading this comment actually buy this chronology? Does anyone believe that Gabrielle Giffords and Raul Grijalva would be losing by nearly 2/3 margins at the beginning of the evening and remotely be able to pull off upsets and survive? Not without the help of Diebold and utterly corrupt elections directors like Brad Nelson and Karen Osbourne-these people are so crooked they have to screw themselves into their pants in the morning. I say we have to free the vote and then we'll free the herb.

malcolmkyle
malcolmkyle

If you support prohibition you've a helped create a black market with massive incentives to hook both adults and children alike.

If you support prohibition you've helped to make these dangerous substances available in schools and prisons.

If you support prohibition you've helped put previously unknown and contaminated drugs on the streets.

If you support prohibition you've helped to escalate Murder, Theft, Muggings and Burglaries.

If you support prohibition you've helped to divert scarce law-enforcement resources away from protecting your fellow citizens from the ever escalating violence against their person or property.

If you support prohibition you've helped to prevent the sick and dying from obtaining safe and effective medication.

If you support prohibition you've helped remove many important civil liberties from those citizens you falsely claim to represent.

If you support prohibition you've helped create the prison-for-profit synergy with drug lords.

If you support prohibition you've helped escalate the number of people on welfare who can't find employment due to their felony status.

If you support prohibition you're responsible for the horrific racial disparities which have breed generations of incarcerated and disenfranchised Afro Americans.

If you support prohibition you've helped evolve local gangs into transnational enterprises with intricate power structures that reach into every corner of society, controlling vast swaths of territory with significant social and military resources at their disposal.

If you support prohibition you're promoting a policy which kills our children, endangers our troops, counteracts our foreign policy and reduces much of the developing world to anarchy.

Neurotics build castles in the sky, psychotics live in them; the concept of a "Drug-Free Society" is a neurotic fantasy and Prohibition's ills are a product of this psychotic delusion.

Prohibition is nothing less than a grotesque dystopian nightmare; if you support it you must be either ignorant, stupid, brainwashed, corrupt or criminally insane.

If you support prohibition then prepare yourself for even more death, corruption, sickness, imprisonment, unemployment, foreclosed homes, and the complete loss of the rule of law and the Bill of Rights.

Nay
Nay

As a fellow Arizonan, I am extremely ashamed of my home state, if this act isn't passed! (which may occur if most early votes were "No" voters). I have several sick family members that are sick with chronic illnesses in which prop 203 could have been an ideal prop ( a new CHANGE) for our medicare and different methods of medication instead of medications that sickening and worsening the disease. YES (PILLS). I am totally against most medications that are seen as "Pain Killers" which are mainly lethal drugs in the long run. Imagine a sick a person, or not even there is a sick person in my state multiple people with illnesses right now that could have seen a huge advantage with this act being passed!! I am really outraged about this particular result and in other RESULTS as well. For all the "NO" voters on Prop 203, I spite you for being selfish and for showing your shaming disregard toward our sick in the state of Arizona!

jake
jake

thanks you and i have over 6 sever medical conditions so all of u know and i am for prop 203 i am only 19 years old and i have a disease that i have to take two different types of pain medications that are opiate bases if u dont no what that is it is heroin but man made it is nasty every day i take it i wish i could just smoke instead because it would make my like so much easier and better and o yea 4 out of those 6 ARE SEVER CRONIC PAIN and MJ dose work so all you people that are saying no to it i would love for u to have to live one day in my shoes and see the amount of pain im in and what i have to go thru and see the 11 pill i have to take every day just to get my self out of bed do u think thats fun for me no its not at all i didn't want to live like this but its life and shit happens so before u all say no no no do research and maybe feel the pain of other people and especially someone my age think how i feel every day for once and just not your ignorant selfs and the best part is i bet ur all typing or reading this with a cold beer or a glass of wine in ur hand or smoking a cigg. which is a proven fact thats kills way over 50,0000 all together so all u no votes do some real research and feel other peoples pain not just no i dont want it by my kid ur all stupid i bet any of ur children are looking thru ur medicine cabs trying to see what they can get high on and u never think of that, thats one of the worse drugs in todays world so all u people get a grip and come to the real world this is a medicine no matter what u think i some it to help me sleep at night because even with my meds i cant >> and again offffferrrr is upp and if u voted no on 203 write back let me know i would be glad to tell u what i have to go thur every single day of my dam life to make it day by day so if all you stuck up yuppies and mormans or people that dont no your facts research alot and i mean alot before u post one thing because u make ur self look dumb i hope u enjoy knowing that because of people against it could make people be in sever pain for the rest of the life once u no that feeling and have it for more that a day and not just having a child ladies u also get back because u would wish that vote was a yes instead of not and its a proven fact its not a gateway drug to all u dumbas people that say that if u think that well sorry u should have started to do all those drugs u did after u smoke and it called THE RONG CROWD OF PEOPLE.thanks dan

LIV2RYD
LIV2RYD

Why wouldn't you legalize marijuana? i looked up The annual causes of death in the US. Alcohol is an outstanding 85000, Tobacco is number one at 435000, prescription drugs is 64000, Marijuana is at 0, yet i guarantee half the people that voted no, are users of tobacco and alcohol. In 2008 drunk driving accounted for 32% of all traffic accidents in the US. Marijuana was 0%. I don't know about you but I would rather be on the road with someone high than drunk. But yet marijuana is still illegal. What is so bad about it. Its easy to overdose on a pill but you have to smoke your body weight in about 2 hours to od on marijuana. have you ever seen the picture that says "not everyone that gets hit by a drunk driver dies" (if not look it up!!) Where is the one about the high driver?

it is my life
it is my life

It is a shame the voters in this state can't separate their personal views and their political views. We get it, you are against smoking marijuana, but do you have to also be against someone with a debilitating disease smoking marijuana? I am personally against abortion, but politically pro choice. I am personally against guns, buy politically for guns. The NO voters, as has been stated before but I'll repeat, should be ashamed.

Jmb
Jmb

Dear prop 203 NO voter,I have to wonder how many of you actually read prop 203 before voting on it. My guess is you saw Marijuana on the ballot and selected NO, without consideration. I can only hope that when you are puking your brains out during chemotherapy you think about what your vote actually meant. Who are you to tell a dying cancer or aids patient that they cannot have something that could help their quality of life while they wait to die. Shame on you.

John
John

We really won't know until all provisional, absentee, and mail-in ballots are accounted for.. and this, Maricopa county officials have said, could take anywhere from 10 days to two weeks.DO NOT CONCEDE Mr. Myers!

informed
informed

you raise a point of abuse, dtropiano, but that's to be expected in any medical marijuana state. after all, it is the drug of choice. and i say that because in its history of 10,000 years of recorded history, nobody's died from smoking pot. and what would you rather have people doing, overdosing on prescription medication like oxycontin or over the counter pain pills like aspirin? or would you prefer them falling asleep from too much pot? by the way, the gateway theory's been disproven, you drive next to stoners on the highway every day, and it's only illegal because "marijuana encourages colored people to look white men in the eye"--harry anslinger's words, not mine

Bwilmot
Bwilmot

The detractors point to the large number of potential abusers while patently ignoring those that desperately need the medicinal value i.e. cancer patients - nausea, pain topical use for skin cancers, and much more.

anti-prop 203
anti-prop 203

here's a suggestion -- you would be less paranoid if you stopped smoking pot.

no to prop 203
no to prop 203

extra money for legalizing pot???? ha sounds like its not going to be used for medicinal use then is it?? it'll be for recreational use just like california's so-called "medicinal usage"

Nay
Nay

?

Maybe you should take a break from smoking MJ!! Or don't target yourself!!

Just advice!!

Mesaguybcrich
Mesaguybcrich

I support MJ Legalization, but your spelling is horrible.

J Curwen
J Curwen

Hmm, for $3500 I could buy over a pound of California's finest. That's way more than 90 doses. I say let the free market determine the price.

TinaBeth
TinaBeth

Marinol only contains synthetic THC. THC is the substance in marijuana that gives the high. However, there are over a hundred other substances in marijuana, called cannabinoids, that don't get you high, but have other effects, such as muscle relaxation and pain relief. None of these cannabinoids are in Marinol. Marinol is not a substitute for marijuana.

I think Bubblyxo answered their own concern: "who cares if alcohol or prescription drugs can kill you from overdosing, if you're dumb enough to overdose then you deserve death as your punishment!" Well, Bubblyxo, if you will let alcoholics or prescription drug addicts make their own decisions about what to ingest, why won't you let me make my own decision to ingest marijuana? You don't want high drivers killing innocent people, but drunk drivers kill innocent people all the time, and alcohol is not illegal. (Also, don't worry that marijuana will "open the door" to other natural drugs like poisonous berries; poisonous berries are already legal!) Marijuana is no worse than alcohol, so let's not treat it differently.

J Curwen
J Curwen

Give me a break, kid. Who do you think funded this effort? Old farts like yours truly bankrolled it. Youngsters like you sitting on their asses cost us this election -- they and the probable vote rigging.

you're a dummy
you're a dummy

I'm 23 and I voted no. I hope you die already, you're a waste of oxygen.

Dejt176
Dejt176

SCRAMJET

dope is a term used for meth crack black tar and not a pot head isn't a loser ur prob just some stuck up yuppie that has never tried it or u just like to drink beer or wine which is a proven fact that is 1000 times worse for u then smoke MJ so Before u go calling name stop and research because i have a disease and that dose help me sleep at night and makes my pain go away so keep u dam mouth shut that is offensive and not right that is like making fun of some one for having cancer and having to take kemo so DO UR DAM RESEARCH before u post anything and stop calling people dopers ur a rude pice of shit and need to know what ur talking about before u say anything ur not right in the head tat all and that grosses me out IGNORANT ScramjetScramjet DO UR RESEARCH U SCUBAG

Rightpundit
Rightpundit

YOU NAILED IT! they are all for less govt control unless it involves their "family values" rhetoric-then freedom/choice goes out the window.

Nay
Nay

WOW!! Ridiculous!!!

Independent Lawyer Guy
Independent Lawyer Guy

Scramjet- This is the most idiotic nonsensical post I've read all day. Go drink another Budweiser or pray for my soul or do whatever you need to do to cope with your close minded, tell others how to live their lives existence. I must be a loser. A proffessional, educated, six figure earning loser. I don't "push" or "deal" though. And I am a criminal because the law says its illegal for me to inhale the smoke from the flower of a particular plant.

But- If you want to call me a criminal you have the right. Though at one point voting if you were black was illegal. (So was voting if you were a woman). It was also legal to beat your slave and/or wife with a switch, so long as it was no thicker than your thumb. (Hence the term "Rule of Thumb") I guess because the law says something it makes it morally right or wrong??

tom
tom

exactly!!!!!! 100% agreeall these people on here are potheads wanting to legalize so they can get high for recreational use.. why not just go to California??? 46% of the population want to legalize for recreational use.. next time its on the ballot, go make it 51%

Pit Boss
Pit Boss

Dope? Who uses that term anymore?

J Curwen
J Curwen

A pothead is still better than the like of you.

Rod Williams
Rod Williams

If walking down the street became a felony, would you become paranoid walking down the street?

Nay
Nay

Thank you Tina, people such as this inconsiderate person you replied to should do THEIR research instead of ranting about some BS story about "opening doors" to our children. Shroom's COME ON!!! @ BubblyxoThe doors have already been opened you FOOL!! Your ridiculous.

Nay
Nay

@ J Curwen

I agree with you 100%!! The "older" generations are the one's that literally put this prop in motion!! The one's that didn't consider the importance of the prop or thought the prop would damage our generations to come are the one's that voted "NO" But why or how would this damage our younger generations? Our kids in this state are already exposed to drugs that are considered lethal, such as methamphetamine's or opiate based medications. I believe the prop was too exploited on the NO side!!

jamie
jamie

wow glad you can SPELL so well... and you are SO EDUCATED about all the different types of drugs.. why not do your OWN RESEARCH and see there is already a drug called MARINOL that is used to treat people with debilitating diseases and treats the side effects of chemotherapy such as nausea... you are such a hypocrite!

Rod Williams
Rod Williams

What substances do you use for recreation? Would you like to compare side effects of what you use to what pot users feel? Please.

If you are a caffeine addict then you're in for a rough ride, never can quite relax with that poison going through your system. I know that caffeine is highly addictive, the company that marketed it knew that too, Coke and its caffeine was the gateway drug from way back when, Coke knew that what they were pushing would create addicts, that's what it was all about, selling Coke.

Don't like the jitters or headaches when you try to quit? The obvious answer is to purchase some over the counter pharmaceuticals, they probably own that also. lol

What about nicotine? Just as highly addictive as caffeinated drinks and can be hard to quit, it is said that heroin addicts can cold turkey and quit that substance but quitting cigarettes is another story. I lucked out and quit by sleeping in a hospital ward for 6 weeks locked in a nylon tent. I didn't even know I was quitting, woke up and didn't want a cigarette, smoked for 47 years, never went back. I don't drink coffee either except an occasional sip every few days or so. Last time I used alcohol was 1983 or 4 at the Pat Benetar Concert in Tempe. I was heading down the road towards alcoholism, would drink a few beers at lunch. Pot saved my life.

Also saved my life after the hospital, went in with an aneurysm in the basilar region of my brain, they peeled my scalp off did their magic and stapled my scalp back on. They gave me pills to dilate my blood vessels, common for head injury patients, the pill is named Dilantin, it dilates and is listed as a seizure preventive, not allowing clots to form easily. Just as taking an aspirin thins blood , Dilantin or pot both dilate our blood vessels. The big problem with Dilantin are the side effects, reads like a horror story and I lived them for 4 months. Pot dilates my vessels just fine and without the deadly side effects. I could go back to the pills and suffer like hell to be in step with the law plus lose my sense of taste and smell which is one of the many bad side effects of the pills.

J Curwen
J Curwen

Hey, I'd settle for decriminalization. I wouldn't even grumble too loudly about pot offenses being 90 day misdemeanors. But all pot offenses are felonies in this state. Same penalty for getting caught with a joint as for getting caught with a pound.

So, we take whatever we think we can pass despite our neolithic legislature. I'd love to live in California, but unfortunately I'm stuck in bible belt Arizona. The best we can hope for is a medical exemption here for now.

I mean WTF? Arizona -- where half the people pack pistols perfectly legally without permits, but people risk felonies for getting caught with a joint. Now who is more dangerous to society? A pothead having a couple of puffs, or granny with a 9mm in her purse?

Rod Williams
Rod Williams

Dope is a term used to describe substances that are highly addictive, have damaging side effects that require treatment. Some of the substances are:

Alcoholmethnicotinecaffeinepaint thinnercocaineheroin

Marijuana is used to treat those who use dope.

J Curwen
J Curwen

Screw Marinol. It's just synthetic THC in an oil base to be taken orally. It has no cannabidiol to take the edge off. It's like eating a pot brownie -- no way to titrate the effects and you're off for six or eight hours minimum. Smoked or better yet vaporized pot works better and is more easily titrated. It's cheaper, too, even at $400 per ounce. We know all about Marinol, baby. It's the pharmaceutical industry's answer to a question that hadn't even been asked by anyone without a fiduciary interest.

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