Hells Angels/Vagos Shootout: Judge Sends Case Back to Grand Jury, Lawyer Blames New Times for "Significant Slant" Against Angels

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​The cases against seven men with connections to the Hells Angels Motorcycle Club -- stemming from an August shootout with rival biker gang the Vagos -- were sent back to a grand jury on Monday.

 And, in an effort to have one of the biker's trial moved to another venue, an attorney for the alleged gangster blames New Times and other local media for creating a "significant slant against the Hells Angels."

In our defense, all we said was their aim sucked.

Yavapai County Superior Court Judge William T. Kiger decided Monday to send the cases of the accused bikers -- John Bernard, Kiley Hill, Kevin Christensen, Larry Scott, Michael Koepke, Robert Kittredge, and Bruce Schweigert -- back to the grand jury after attorneys for the men filed a motion expressing concerns about testimony presented to the original grand jury by a detective on the case.

"What particularly jumps out and concerns me is the detective's comments to the Grand Jury that the other gang was a family-oriented group and this gang was a criminal enterprise," Judge William T. Kiger said about the Grand Jury testimony. "I'm having a real hard time getting around it."

He's referring to testimony from Detective David Zavos, who, according to transcripts obtained by the Daily Courier, told the Grand Jury, "Based on GIITEM, which is the state gang task force information that I was given, the Hells Angels and the Vagos have had an oil-water relationship for quite a while, and it goes back in their roots in California. The Hells Angels are the dominant motorcycle gang in the world, and they also have a strong presence here in Arizona. The Vagos are newcomers to the outlaw motorcycle gang scene, and they are beginning to make [in]roads into Arizona.

"There's a few members here, but the Hells Angels are seeing that their membership is growing. ... The Vagos for the most part, are not a real aggressive gang. They are somewhat family oriented as opposed to the Hells Angels who are more into the criminal enterprise."

Both gangs are listed as outlaw motorcycle gangs in a 2008 Department of Justice report. So in other words, the judge has a problem with Zavos' implication that the Hells Angels are a worse outlaw motorcycle gang than the Vagos.

Koepke's attorney, Richard Gaxiola, also requested the trial venue be moved because of a negative public opinion of the Hells Angels created by the media -- specifically, New Times, KPHO, and the Daily Courier.

"After reviewing the above articles and comments correlated therewith, one can reasonably surmise that the media has consistently maintained a significant slant against the Hells Angels that has rubbed off into the Prescott community and potential jury pool," Gaxiola wrote in his motion. "Accordingly, in an effort to allow Mr. Koepke to maintain his constitutional rights...of an impartial criminal proceeding, this Court must permit Mr. Koepke to change his trial venue."

We're not sure if Gaxiola's ever heard of Altamont, but the groundwork for how the public views the Hells Angels was laid about 40 years ago -- not in a New Times blog post.


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Ragnarocker666
Ragnarocker666

vagos are nothing but punks who would never be accepted by 81s. vagos are genetic debris, pollution that needs to be rid of. riverside county is infested with this garbage. green is trash...

Marathan
Marathan

The SILENT WAR No reporter or ATF Agent seems to wants to talk about. USA Hells angels VS the women and children of the USA, As the women and child victims pile up around the country the police seem to not want to talk about these hells angel type crimes.Who cares about drugs when freaks wearing 81 patches openly support a child porn convict hells angel leader ? This is what these freaks do openly with out shame or guilt what goes on in private? How big is the list of women and children Victims of these 81 wearing freaks? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.topix.com/forum/city/bellm...

Eagle
Eagle

Vagos are not family orientated and do not belong in Arizona. The Hells Angels aren't what media has depicted them either. When push comes to shove I want the HA on my side!

Speakingup Com
Speakingup Com

Thank you for clearing the names up. If our Media investigated their stories before retelling tales we might get real news. Just like me confusing all the players - the stories are hard to follow and harder to believe. Just like this one, a few Hells Angels at their home, a whole swarm of other bikers drive by and it's the Hells Angels who attack them? That story stinks!

Speakingup Com
Speakingup Com

Okay - I did not read the ATF Jay's book but googled it - the Solo Angels from Mexico is what I guess he wrote about. Vagos - Solo from Mexico - just seemed to fit because Vagos Members can be Law Enforcement & Hells Angels won't accept anyone who has been a Policeman. Sorry - I hate it when the news spreads fiction and that's so irritating. Anyone got the real story out there?

Speakinup Com
Speakinup Com

Everybody has heard about ATF Jay getting in with Hells Angels but he did it under the guise of a Mexican Biker Gang - thought it was probably that Vago dealio. Guess I'll have to google it.

Hailey
Hailey

The ATF Author Jay rides with the Vagos - yes?

Hailey
Hailey

I'd venture to guess James King wasn't even born when Altamont happened. Meanwhile, it's obvious he doesn't like the Hells Angels by his articles having a negative slant. Oh well, he knows how to get readers - they don't recognise his name but they certainly pay attention to Hells Angels.

Lars
Lars

Can we also agree that Hunter S. Thompson's book, old William "Big Bill" Smith biker films, and multiple documentaries about the Angels on cable shows like "American Justice" and "Gangland" have also shaped the public's perception.

Great Job Defense Attorneys
Great Job Defense Attorneys

The alleged victim, Hunter, was confirmed to be high on meth and wielding a firearm at the Stones' concert. Passaro was tried in a court of law in 1971 and was acquitted of homicide charges as he acted in self-defense. Likewise, the HA in the above Yavapai County case acted in self defense. Know your history jack ass James King...

a different fukkin guest
a different fukkin guest

I have heard that the "bruthas" call crack heads "smokey". I doubt that any outlaw or 1% club would have a member with that name in thier ranks. It was a fun read though as is most fiction.

guest
guest

oh my goodness, the hells angels, let me tell you about those fine young boys...I was traveling with my husband, earl, in our motor home. we stopped for gas and I reminded earl to check the fluid levels, we were in yuma and it's hotter than the dickens out there. we get back on the road and what do you know? "the engine's running a little hot," earl says. he had forgotten to put the radiator cap back on at the gas station and it was now nowhere to be found. coolant had sloshed everywhere, earl can't seem to miss a pothole.

Right at that moment, while I was berating poor, stupid earl, four Hells Angels members came roaring up and asked if we needed assistance. earl started to pipe up, but I told him to pipe down and I explained what had happened. one of the hells angels, his name was smokey, took off on his motorcycle toward the gas station, about 10 miles back and said that he would find that radiator cap or get another one in town.

I made the boys lunch while we waited, but it only took about 25 minutes for smokey to return with a brand new radiator cap for our motor home's make and model. They started to leave at that point, but I insisted that smokey sit down and have a good meal first.

what wonderful boys.

Super sweet fiction
Super sweet fiction

people actually believe New Times anyways? I thought this was like a comic book of sorts? Isn't James King a fiction writer? Is this post even real? Did this shoot out even happen? I thought New Time only wrote about things of fiction. I don't get it? You guys should start writing Choose Your Own Adventure style..now that would be awesome and def bring readership up. I really do love this fictional writing called "Phoenix New Times". Is it possible to get, like, more articles about spaceships or like spider man or something..just to really mix it up? Let's get creative! New Times best fictional writing ever!

Guest
Guest

The truth about Altamont is that Meredith Hunter (the 'innocent victim') had a handgun which seems to have been lost on most revisionist historians.

vinny
vinny

Long Live 81!

Peckerwood white boy
Peckerwood white boy

the Vagos MC are not law enforcement at all. they are bad ass 1%ers just like the Hells Angels are. that law enforcement shit is more BS put out by some media somewhere.

JAY
JAY

the vagos mc are from corona california started around 1966. they are not from mexico. you got your cholo mc names all confused dude. are you from the east coast?los solos angels are from mexico, vagos are from california,mongols are from california HA are from berdoo california. actually most original 1%er mcs started in california. the year round warm sunny desert west coast is true biker country thats why the whole 1%er biker culture started there. it sure didnt start in the north east USA or back east USA. the east coast is either humind and rainy down south or its the cold ice frozen snowmobile country of the northeast. bikes were born and made to be ridden in a warm sunny climate. and that is the southwestern and west coast california USA.

JAY
JAY

the vagos mc had nothing to do with the HA or jay dobyns. 2 different things. the HA and vagos do not get along. they had a shoot out in Arizona a few months back.

Peckerwood white boy
Peckerwood white boy

you need to get with the times. your running about 40 years behind the 1%er biker culture.

Jim
Jim

the MC ATF agent Jay Dobyns rode with were the LOS SOLOS ANGELS. A REAL MC IN TIJUANA MEXICO. but he was not really a member. he and his fellow ATF narks were a bogus charter from Arizona. they were not in any way affiliated with the real MC in mexico.

Freddy Beemer
Freddy Beemer

there was an ATF agent who rode under cover with the skull valley Hells Angels in Arizona named jay dobyns.HE DID NOT RIDE WITH the vagos. he wrote a book about it called NO ANGEL. he also has a website bragging on himself. where do you people get all your untrue facts at anyway? its the information age. any thing you want to read or learn in online now. you just have to figure out after reading it if its the truth or not. that part is up to you.

Chip Douglas
Chip Douglas

dont forget Hells Angels leader 72 year old sonny barger staring as Lenny the pimp on the lame 1%er biker tv show SOA sons of anarchy adds to all that bad reputation to. fake tv show or not. sonny plays a convict who has killed 3 atf agents on the show and is one of the old time original starters of the SOA club. that also adds to the bad HA image to even if its a tv show. the HA themselves have to give the legal go ahead and OK to let any body make a tv show about them like on gangland history channel etc so its partly their own fault to. they love the bad reputation they get. but on the other hand they whine and snivel complain like big baby's about people and the cops saying they are evil and bad. the HA are hypocrites.if your a real 1%er why would you care what straight square society thinks? FUCK THEM . FTW ...FUCK THE WORLD remember? the HA used to be true nonconformist 1%er outlaw bikers. now days they are conformist pretending to be nonconformist and worry about their self image. any old grateful dead hippie acid head from the 1960s can see that they are not who and what they claim to be anymore. the HA are violent in their own 1985 movie they made about themselves called Hells Angels forever from 1985. they are violent in history channels in search of the Hells Angels staring sonny barger and HA george christie from the ventura HA in Calif. and if thats not enough true to life violence just read the local news where there are HA charters. death,meth,death beatings they even kill their own brothers like josh harbor from ventura calif and hoover seybert from Arizona. violence like this has been going on for over 40 years from the HA. back in the 1970s and 80s it was bombs made by HA sleepy jim jim brandes in oakland blowing up oakland cops like bill zerby. HA violence is nothing new. most people dont know shit or the half of it. most of you readers are armchair warriors and are not 1%ers and never will be. the HA used to be cool in the 60,70s,80s up until the mid 90s then it all went downhill and they turned into bald fat punk ass gang bangers. they are no longer bikers. just 2 wheeled punk redneck bully gangsters and bike thieves. they lost the plot long ago. as for a bad HA image they bring it al onl themselves. they dont need our help they do just fine on their own making themselves look bad.

Chip Douglas
Chip Douglas

either way they are both dead. more than 30+ years ago dead. the world is now a safer place. who fucking cares? nobody thats who. its 2010 not 1969.

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PEE WEE
PEE WEE

I am a Hells Angels member in las vegas Nevada and there is no Hells Angels member named or called smokey in the USA. you are not telling a true story GUEST! smokey is a nigger name we would never have a member with a nigger name.

sue
sue

you should have asked them for a snort of their homemade meth and then fucked their brains out. they love sluts like that. they call them turn outs. fuck lunch lets fuck! dear guest your story sounds made up.

Tommy Collins
Tommy Collins

Well, of course they are. All this hubbub about them being criminals and all that is just plain fiction. In fact, all the videos and photos of what appears to be criminal activity is just stuff that media makes up to make them sweet fellers look bad...

Now you just get back on your hog and make her wash yer harley for ya.

sue
sue

yea they are all good christian church going good old boys on 2 wheels. unless you piss them off. then you get beat bloody and stabbed or shot to death by one of them like cynthia garcia did in mesa Arizona few years ago. they sliced her throat and threw her dead body in the desert. and they also shot and killed their own HA brothers josh harbor from ventura california and hoover seybert from cave creek charter. both of them were shot in the head at 2 bar different bars in phx AZ at different dates. yea they are great christian guys to know. with friends like that who needs enemies?

Kenny O
Kenny O

THE HA in the 1970s and 1980s were way more violent than they are today and cooked snorted and sold the best speed,meth, crank on earth and made millions of dollars on it. back then they TCB! now its all fluffy riders with bald heads living on the bad ass reputation of the old long haired bearded HA brothers who paved the way for the younger bald shave headed geeks of today. the real glory days of the real Hells Angels mc were starting to vanish in the mid 1990s. more proof of the downward spiral of the HAMC. these HA guys today are half wit knuckleheads and are about as stupid and un street smart as most punk ass gang bangers who live at home with their parents.

sue
sue

and to add to that Alan Passaro the Mexican Hells Angels stabber member who stabbed Meridith Hunter at altamont was murdered by his own HA brothers. he was shot in his head and found floating in a lake in sonoma county california after altamont. around 1973. what goes around comes around.

vinny
vinny

Red and White all day long!  Cypress, ca the 70's!

Just my opinion
Just my opinion

In No Angel and in the book about the Mongels (written by 2 different undercovers) They both say that there is undercovers working with the Vago's in Kingman. The Vago's also have an informant who was working with them when the shootout occured and the tri-state president of the Vago's got in the back of the cop car and informed on the Angels....Last time I checked thats not what 1% clubs are about unless of course your the 1% that snitches,

Guest
Guest

Some people care because of the lies and bullshit the press and bloggers spread. Meredith Hunter had a gun and should have had his ass kicked, but according to most revisionist historians he was just an innocent nigger at a concert, and they blame the HA for being too aggressive. Some people care about the truth, douchebag.

 THE BRAND
THE BRAND

dont come back go kill yourself nobodys cares.

JAY
JAY

i saw a group of HAs bull whipping one of there own club brothers with bull whips they carry with them on their bikes in the dark alley next to the steel horse saloon in phoenix Arizona at the corner of bell road and 19th ave. this is also the same bar where an HA from ventura california named josh harbor got shot in the back of his head in the parking lot one dark night. not to forget HA hoover seybert who was shot in the front of his head at close range on his bike with his old lady on back in front of his so called HA brothers in front of Bridgettes last laugh bar on cave creek road. what im saying is if they beat and kill their own brothers then whats to stop them from beating or killing you? never trust a hells angels not to attack!

Chip Douglas
Chip Douglas

the mafia is not as bad as they say they are. or the Manson family. its all made up by the media. Satan does not exist either nor heaven or hell. all the violence and death at altamont 1969 was all made up by the media to. or just watch the movie gimmie shelter with the rolling stones and see real live true to live hells angel violence! hells angels beating peaceful loving hippies with sawed off pool ques. not a black guy with gun who they later stabbed.

Chip Douglas
Chip Douglas

well then if its all made up by the media then why is everybody so scared of them and fear them? the media is not good enough or smart enough to make up some of the shit you read about them. the media is not that good.

Cpl.usmc81suppporter
Cpl.usmc81suppporter

U should prob go f$&k your self, no other mc in the world is as hard to get into even to this day or as dedicated. Just because they dont run around selling dope or murdering people on the streets doesn't make them any less of badasses.

Guest
Guest

Can't argue with any of that.

Bthorton12345
Bthorton12345

This is about as true as it gets the vagos like every other 1%er club wants to be hells angels but cant hack it thats how most of them got started anyways they tried to be HA but didnt make it the outlaws are a prime example of that and by the way you can become a full patch vago for 1300 dollars and that is 100% true

JAY
JAY

even hells angels leader sonny barger does not care about this event in 1969 anymore. ask him. he has a real life to live.

HELLS ANGELS BOBBY
HELLS ANGELS BOBBY

dear author or guest, stop by and meet us the HELLS ANGELS ARIZONA in person at the steel horse saloon in north phoenix Arizona corner of 19th ave and bell road north east corner behind jack in the box. we pull up to the bar around 9pm every Friday and Saturday night like clockwork ask for me BOBBY HELLS ANGELS CAVE CREEK. if we are not there stop by the clubhouse at at 21448 north 24th ave just north of rodse garden and north of lone cactus and south of deer valley road. we would like to talk to you in person. BOBBY REINSTRA HELLS ANGELS CAVE CREEK ARIZONA.

Ken
Ken

patriots are not cool, Hells Angels are. if your worried about something that did not effect you from 1969 you need to get a life. your a loser dude! is there not enough shit in the present day world to worry about? even the bible tells us to not worry about the past. its water under the bridge and there is nothing we can do about it. each day has enough worries of its own. why borrow trouble from the past? call Hells Angels leader sonny barger at 623-780-8149 and ask him about altamont. he wont even talk about it anymore and he was there on the front row. move on with your life man sonny barger did.

Chip Douglas
Chip Douglas

why would you care? are you an HA member? i think not. i know plenty of 81club brothers and they could care less about yesterday or ex members of the club much less some thing way back in 1969 before some of the younger members were even born yet. worry about what happened in your own life in 1969 if you can remember it or were even born yet. im sure nothing back then really affects your life at all if you were alive then. why not think about the peace and love at woodstock 1969 a few months before altamont instead of dwelling on bad vibes bad karma and violence like at altamont? dont you have better things to do with your life? like take a ride on your big bad harley or something? or do you even ride bikes at all?

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