Former Jehovah's Witness Preacher Arrested for Playing Strip Poker With 14-Year-Old Boy -- Get All the Grody Details Right Here

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David Nelson
Strip poker can be a fun party game when played by visually -- and age -- appropriate gamblers. It's a problem, however, when one of those playing is a preacher -- it's an even bigger problem when the only other player is a 14-year-old boy.

The former preacher at a Jehovah's Witness church in Phoenix was arrested last night for allegedly playing strip poker -- and doing a lot of other sick stuff -- with a 14-year-old boy more than 30 years ago.

David Nelson, the former leader of the Madison Park Congregation Church near 16th Street and Earll Drive in Phoenix, was arrested last night at his home for molesting a boy he met through the church in 1980.

We got our hands on the police report -- sick stuff.

According to the report, in September of 1980, when he was 33-years-old, Nelson had the 14-year-old victim -- described as "a close family friend" -- over to his house on at least two occasions to play cards. Nelson's rules are different than, say, Vegas' -- the loser in his game is required to pull out his junk and show it to the winner.

As the games progressed, the stakes got higher and the loser was required to touch the winner's penis with his hand.

According to the police report, both Nelson and the victim touched each other's wieners.

As the game progressed further, the stakes got even higher. By the end of the games, the loser had to suck the winner's penis, which happened, the report claims, on at least two occasions.

According to the report, the first time Nelson sucked the victim's penis, he hummed as he went to the bathroom to wash the victim's semen out of his mouth. On the second occasion, he just spit it into a towel.

If you just threw up in your mouth a little bit, we don't blame you.

Nelson was only caught because during a recent phone call with the victim, he admitted to the blowjobs and to playing strip poker with the boy. The conversation was recorded and given to police.

Nelson told police he wanted to apologize to the victim and that everything that happened was his fault (no shit, dude).

Nelson's been charged with two counts of sexual conduct with a minor, two counts of molestation of a child, and two counts of public sexual indecency.
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JJ2014
JJ2014

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Ken D
Ken D

I wonder how long will it take for anyone that has done the "Outside-of-the-Box" research into the REAL origins of "WatchTower Borg" and see that once they "Incorporated" with the MOTHER of ALL corporations is the "Vatican"!!! Once they did that...In went the "Jesuits" and infiltrated ALL THE WAY TO THE TOP of its governing body to corrupt it into the "Sick-Puppy" it NOW IS?!?!?! Doesn't anyone notice that is having the EXACT same problem the Vatican has??????...so many lawsuits that they are "Quietly" settling "Out-of-Court" soo as not to awaken the "Sheeple"...NO SMALL WONDER THEY ARE HURTING FINANCIALLY!!!NOTICE Too...How George Bush...slickly adopted their quest for a "NEW WORLD ORDER"...and what have WE just learned about the so-called New World Order??? Its a "Fascist" world order of "Slaves" for the ruling elite...Sooooooo MANY Idiots out there huh???

Busywoman65
Busywoman65

I noticed that several JW's wrote comments on this. I'd like to know why they are even conversing with apostates. They're not supposed to do that or they could get disfellowshiped . I was a JW for 32years. My father was presiding elder. I've been out since 1982.

Suntwist77
Suntwist77

He needs time to reflect on his sins. Jail is about right. He attempted to get me fired. But I forgive him.

guest
guest

I find it sickening that half the comments on this page are from degenerates who care more about defending their cult than protecting innocent children from people like him.

Ex-Elder 2
Ex-Elder 2

To ex-elder from ex-elder 2Yup, you pretty much summed it up. I went through that just like you. Life has is gifts and life has it's obstacles. Growing up in the truth allowed me to develop skills and abilities that other people never have the oportunity to develop. Things like study methods, public speaking, good morals and ethics for those who develop a concience during the time. I've had people do some horrible things to me during those years as well. I thank God for the blessings and for helping me learn to become a better person because of the trials. Remember, God YHWH is the one who makes it all grow through Christ. Not some man made organization. Jesus said be careful that no man decieve you. I don't think we need a middleman to dictate to us how we are supposed to aproach our Father. Christ already provided the means to do that. May God bless you brother.

Kewin2001
Kewin2001

Implicit trust in Jehovah! Anyone who relies on his own understanding will fall! There are many questions and for many of us makes no sense. A refining period for sure! Trust in Jehovah!

guest
guest

Also, where was the 'holy spirit' on this one? Running late?

Kewin2001
Kewin2001

As I reflect on matters I too ask the same Question. There is much emphasis on keeping the congregation clean. I always believed that you couldn't hide anything for long and that Jehovah would bring things to light. I am feeling extremely confused as to why this man was permitted to keep his position for so long. Jehovah knew about this.

TEE
TEE

if Jehovah stepped in on everything then we wouldnt have freedom remember satan said we only serve God because He gives us things and we need to prove satan wrong. Things happen and this is satans system so nothing good comes from it even tho he makes it like it benefits us. satan could care less about us and wants to pull us down with him. Just because we get away wit somethin for a period of time doesnt mean God isnt watching but he wants us to get it right, if God didnt care this guy would still get away with it especially if it were up to satan cause hes constantly working on what we like to pull us away from God but having all the spiritual information to go to when something is weighing on us can help to correct our thoughts especially if we have a Bible based conscience. If we dont pray for the Holy Spirit why would we expect it?!! God helps us when he sees we truly want the help u cant ask but continue to sin cause then ur not serious u have to show u r trying and He steps in to give us the strength!

guest
guest

trust in jehovah? how did that work out for this poor victim? it's pretty sad when the police can do better than your elders or your pretend god.

Alex
Alex

All the Jehovah's Witness members that have been in my life seem to not be that happy.

ex-elder
ex-elder

having spent my whole life there, from age 7 to 45 I have the answer to that question about "why most Jehovah witness's are not happy?" as a youth, you live waiting for the " Big Day", the word Armageddon will make your heart skip a beat,you have a constant fear that no matter what you do, its not enough to please jehovah. And then you miss out on a large part of growing up and taking advantage of things that "normal kids" do like play sports in school and if the other children are not jehovah witness's they are considered "Bad association" that can spoil useful habits, so you miss the chance to engage in normal childhood behavior and opportunities to explore the potential of your dreams because you are told that if you are thinking of going into business that you are materialistic and if you are pursuing a collage education that you are not pursuing kingdom interest therefore your spirituality is questioned as to how confident you are in the "system of things" or "the world" so as a child with potential you hold back on your dreams because you don't want to be displeasing to your parents or the elders and others that view you as good or bad association, understandably this would sound complicated to a non- jehovah witness but it comes down to a lot of pressure on a child to conform and hence miss out on basic things for the future such as planning for senior years, and the reason you don't is you are told that this system wont go that long, we are living in" Times of the End" or the" last Days"...so living this way means you can't live to be happy "Now" because it will be in the "new order of things" that you will have "True peace and security" in other words happiness comes later on and not in this life. as you get older and all of your friends are inside the cult, and you are not free to leave without giving up contacts and the relationships you have built up thru life, including family,so it leaves you pretending that there is joy when there is none ,such as going out in field service every week, or you are spiritually sick if you are not regular at it.

TEE
TEE

ex-elder this is not true, im in college trying to further my education and my teens will too! God doesnt tell us to stop doing what we have to just because its the time of the end. Thats like saying go and kill because its the time of the end, God teaches us to still respect authority and eachother by doing so we r respecting Him. My boys go to the park all the time and play ball for fun but we just make sure God also gets His time. The things He teaches us are not burdensome and help us to live a better life. Im sorry but satan cant offer me anything in this system! Jah has nothing to gain by giving us laws that help us to have alittle more peace than usual. Hes God and if he wanted to He could make us but because He cares about us He gives us freedom of choice. So anyone who chose to leave God shouldnt put down those who are still trying and if a person is touching a child he will be punished but how much better is a person saying negative things about a religion that a child really loves and enjoys! All dont go thru situations like this so we need to respect those who r still trying to hold on!!

Satan
Satan

At this moment, there's a JW "brother" at the front door feeding s... to my grandson, with approval of the boy's mother. The "brother" has labeled me "Satan". A couple of times a week a JW "reading teacher" is allowed to "help" my granddaughter, who has long been able to read above her grade level; the girl is concerned because the "reading teacher" says she will not go to "paradise" if she celebrates her birthday next week. Are not these actions mental abuse?Oh, and the JW visitors to my son's wife borrowed my Bible, and proceeded to "edit" it, removing whole sections and marking our others in order to bring it more in line with their version. "Jehovah told us to do it."

TEE
TEE

First off no one can say that because a person celebrates their b day they will not make it into Gods kingdom. No one knows what Jah will decide, he knows the hearts of everyone, those who will be good servants and those who wont! We definately dont edit the Bible this is Gods Word and it clearly states at Rev 22:18 I am bearing witness to everyone that hears the words of the prophecy of this scroll: If anyone makes an addition to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this scroll. Now why would we edit the Bible to make it say what we want when God goes against this and we serve Him! Please continue to read past 18.

ex-jw elder
ex-jw elder

hello satan, its wonderful to talk to you about something i agree with you on, the reason they are afraid of you is because you are on to them and i wish i knew just a lil bit of what you know 40 years ago, i applaud you for your efforts to save your family from further abuse, by the way don't leave your grand son in a room alone with them you should stay there and correct them when they are wrong your grand son will pick up on who is really telling the truth, if not now later just plant the seed as they say.

ScottJW
ScottJW

Anna your hatred for the witnesses is duly noted. Its too bad though that your exaggerated statistics (not really statistics) are false. As with any organization, there are those that come into it with the purpose of committing harm to others. The Watchtower does indeed NOT have a problem with pedophiles. There have been very few instances and they have for the most part been dealt with by the law. This conduct is not condoned by God or the organization in any way. But neither is adultery, stealing, homosexuality, etc. Fortunatly, we have a God who is more forgiving than people like you. If you had read the Bible and were familiar with it, you would have read 1 Cor. 6:9-11, "What! Do YOU not know that unrighteous persons will not inherit God’s kingdom? Do not be misled. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men kept for unnatural purposes, nor men who lie with men, nor thieves, nor greedy persons, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit God’s kingdom. And yet that is what some of YOU were. But YOU have been washed clean, but YOU have been sanctified, but YOU have been declared righteous in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ and with the spirit of our God." Even in the early congregation, despite being annointed Christians, some fell back into their sinful ways...but were expelled from the congregation. The same is true today, when someone committs a serious sin and shows no repentance. Pedophilia happens to fall under the jurisdiction of the law, so the innocent victim needs to go to the authorities and report this heinous crime.As for the alleged attacker, I have read several articles about this situation, this when be totally un-journalistic and news worthy. They all speak of this man as having retired from being a witness. Witnesses don't retire, we don't have a church, etc. It sounds like, if somebody actually was a journalist and investigated ALL the facts, this man was either disfellowshipped (maybe for the same problem) or he left on his own accord. Either way, he is not a witness. I understand that he is alleged to have done this horrible thing when he was a witness. Sadly these things happen everywhere, the work place, schools, etc. But do not confuse the issue. Jehovahs Witnesses in now way, shape or form condone this conduct nor is it tolerated. I hope that the innocent victim has somewhat recovered and I know that in the paradise, Jehovah God will completely wipe away the damage done to him. What a wonderful hope for all and any who have suffered traumatic things in this system. To those who hate the witnesses: Matthew 11:19 "the Son of man did come eating and drinking, still people say, ‘Look! A man gluttonous and given to drinking wine, a friend of tax collectors and sinners." Jesus was accussed of horrible things and then murdered. He told his disciples they would not be treated any different.But know this...this good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth...and then the end will come!

Gegie
Gegie

You are a complete IDIOT! seriously, pull your head out of you butt. the only person you have convenced on this page is yourself.

Margarett
Margarett

And Amen to this. Exaggerations are wishes. Regards Brother.Margarett

ex-jw elder
ex-jw elder

Dear Brother Scott and Sister Margarett,I can tell that you are newly Baptiste and uninformed you will look back at this day and say to yourself wow, how naive could i have been, I remember getting the youth book at 16 years old and when reading the chapter about "making the truth your own" i went to the local library to do research and read many things that i dismissed feeling like you do here, that these people were angry and lairs , little did i know they knew things i should have not taken 40 years to learn. hope you can get past the anger and get back to reality.

bob250
bob250

The reason that the Mormons and Jehovah's witnesses are especially concerning to ME is that they are sending their followers out at my door possibly when I'm not there. As an atheist I don't care if they preach about blood transfusion or if they set dates, I don't care if they preach that Jesus is god Jesus isn't god Jesus and Satan are one, I don't CARE about that. What I do care about is IS THE PERSON AT MY DOOR TALKING TO MY CHILD A PEDOPHILE. I think we have a RIGHT to know.

Margarett
Margarett

Amen to that. I'm not big on "second chances" for molesters. I want all chances and second chances to go to victims and potential victims. Forgiveness can be a grave sin if it results in more pain for victims. Regards to you and your family.

Margarett
Margarett

Listen up all enablers of pedophiles.

I'm a Jehovah's Witness in good standing.The Bible says to be obedient to your parents. Well, what if your mother is Ma Barker.

Being obedient to Elders needs the same reasoning, because you're not going to be excused by God or man for blind obedience. I'm afraid there are rogue elders, or ones influenced by rogues in authority, that give very corrupt advice. Ignore advice that is obviously corrupt.

If you are a victim, or your child is a victim, and you yourself are satisfied with the evidence, call the police. Never treat a rapist as a brother. If your congregation is, that's on them. Try not to let them get away with it, but don't destroy yourself.

It may be wise to call the elders first, and naturally, seek good guidance but call the police, who can establish that there was a crime without two witnesses. And especially call them after the elders are able to help you establish that there has been a crime.

There is a time to keep silent and a time to speak about the subject of forgiveness, and this wouldn't be the time to even touch on the subject. This person has to answer for this crime.

Caesar's things to Caesar. The first temple of Israel had its 'own' kings to care for the crimes of *ape and murder. However, the second temple came under Rome's rule, and crimes of *ape and murder were handles by Caesar. Also, the Christian Congregation handed these crimes over to Caesar.

As do Christian Congregations today. (God obligates all states, so don't go there.)

Regards.

ex-jw elder
ex-jw elder

I would love to have been the fly on the wall in the elders meeting last night when all of this hit the news media, by the way Frank Gomarcho from channel 3 was married to a J. W. sister that was in my congregation on the east side, I left because I too was spell bond to believe many of the false teachings such as the end of the world coming in 1975, and then later by the end of the century, all they have ever done was point to how close we are to the world coming to an end, claims made in the "Truth" book that came and went such as the reference to 1975 see for your self just Google .... Jehovah's witness and 1975......so many of the new ones have no clue about or dismiss it by the term "new light" which by right is a definition for "oops"....by the way if i sound angry at the religion , how would you feel if you spend your whole life on the bus that is suppose to take you to the land of paradise only to find that its going the wrong way and telling everyone else they are going the wrong way and then one day you see a sign pointing into the right direction so you get off the bus, no they didn't kick me off i made a decision to get off and stop wasting my life following another mans dream that has no truth to it, I grew up in it from age 7 telling my friends that the world was gonna end by 1975, and when the year came and went, then we were told that Jehovah was allowing more people to come in the fold, i went on to pioneer as a full time servant and was en elder for almost 20 years, it simply became embarrassing to go out and teach things i no longer had confidants in, hence i believe has something to do with why it took 30 years for the victim to come forward and take it outside the organization where something can really be done about the crime, i have witness where the elder were judge and jury and decided enough time has gone by no need to take any action or do "private reproof"..... i feel sorry for the old man a tiny bit but, he had his second chance until he got caught and now that's being taken away, yet the victim had no chance it was all taken away that November 30 years ago, and i agree most Jehovah witness are great people but the policy they have for things like this reflects the level of stupidity the higher ups have, i read the letter from the "Governing Body" that said don't call the police unless you live in a state that requires you to. and that night i went home and told my wife who in our congregation was a "child molester" so that she would not send our kids to his house to play with there kids, i wonder what they did here at this kingdom hall and how many elders knew for the last 30 years and never said anything, there is so much more to this then whats on the surface so far, .....stay tuned as they say

TEE
TEE

wow!! if u knew of something and didnt come forward what does that make u? this isnt a teaching of God! I too been in the truth since I was a young girl and still I'm happy. I refuse to let satan get a hold of my life. If u were in the hall that long then u would no that Jesus started ruling in 1914 when he casted satan out of the heavens and thats when it started. God never gave us a date for He says no one knows the day not even His son! Being in the truth b4 u must no Mark 13:32 nd 33, Concerning that day or the hour nobody knows, neither the angels in heaven nor the Son, but the Father. Keep looking, keep awake, for you do not know when the appointed time is. So why were u expecting a certain date if God tells us no one but Him knows the hour.

Margarett
Margarett

To all: The truth doesn't change the hypocrite, and the hypocrite doesn't change the truth.

Be careful what you call false prophecy. 1914 was an undeniable hit. Compare the global synchronized events of that year and after with Jesus statements on the Mount of Olives and The Four Horsemen. It will commence before earth succumbs to man.

1975 was the year a particular thousand year day ended, and making room for Jesus thousand year reign, we thought the window of transition was likely here and even before. However, I remember caution around this strong idea, and I don't remember wild abandon with spending. (My one Aunt however, thought it wasn't fair to Anthony Pools to make timed payments on her pool and wanted to pay it off. She was talked out of it.) I personally think this year was 'quietly' significant.

Read the short bible book of Jonah. He was a true prophet, but he didn't look like one after God mercifully postponed the prophecy of destruction that God gave Jonah to preach.

Habakkuk 2:3 For [the] vision is yet for the appointed time, and it keeps panting on to the end, and it will not tell a lie. Even if it should delay, keep in expectation of it; for it will without fail come true. It will not be late.

Regards to All.

guest
guest

1914 was an undeniable hit? it was supposed to be armageddon, according to Russell. It wasn't until years later that your religion started calling it 'the end of the gentile times'. Learn your own history, please.

Ron_mcintirer
Ron_mcintirer

All allegations of this type are to be reported to the civil authorities for investigation. Clearly even if he were a JW it was in name only not in deeds or actions. Sad people like this prey on young ones. Also the article made it sound as though he was the head of a congregation, which simply is not accurate. The person may have been an elder but clearly if he committed these things as indicated he will no longer be one nor will he be allowed to be around young ones. Just like any organization there is a cross section of people of all types in JW congregations. Some belong for dubious reason most for honorable ones.If someone has not turn back from their former way of life regardless of their background they are not truly a JW. Being a JW is more of what is marked on your heart not outward appearance. This person mentioned cleary was not living as one of Jehovah's Witnesses. If anyone is or has been abused they need to report it to the authorities. If someone is made aware of abuse they too have an obligation to report this to the authorities as well.

Joebazots
Joebazots

@Ron - tell that to my daughter. The elders didn't see fit to call the authorities immediately as is required by law in their state...and they also didn't bother to tell me, a man in good standing that they'd known for YEARS. When I called the society, the guy on the phone said it was regrettable that they hadn't followed the law, but that it was too bad and that the society would let those local brothers handle it. This was AFTER spokesman JR Brown made his reply to the world about sexual abuse, assuring onlookers that they follow the letter of the law.

Also, if it doesn't happen, why has the Society settled these cases out of court for hundreds of thousands of dollars if there is nothing there? Check the court records. They are public and you should have no problem accessing them.

Susan G.
Susan G.

At this point in time I wish that a hell in which persons are kept alive only to be burned and tortured forever were biblically accurate, because I'd love to see him burn forever, however, as a Jehovah's Witness I don't believe in a burning hell. "People that abuse children, however, will not escape Jehovah's fiery anger." (direct quote from 2010 Convention)

Gegie
Gegie

That is not a quote from the Bible, its a quote from the Assembly. What does that tell you rite there? Think a bit before you preach your cults lame teachings. And i still dont understand why ANY J.W. is on this site commenting on anything. You know full well this is unexceptable for you to have any part in a conversation with "worldly people" on this matter. Dont you need to go study for the meeting tonite, or practice your speach for going door to door, or go try to find some "sheep"? You are a perfect example of the hypocracy in the congragation, you know you should NOT be on this site. period.

WestCoastDJO
WestCoastDJO

Gegie,You say...."You know full well this is unexceptable for you to have any part in a conversation with "worldly people" on this matter."

When in fact, we are well known for going door to door for the sole purpose of speaking with "worldly" people about our beliefs.

Additionally, leaving a comment in this forum is not "hypocritical" as you state but loving. We hope that honest hearted ones will see through the illogical reasonings sometimes presented and respond to the truth.

bob250
bob250

Defenders of JW's are either members themselves or outsiders who are naively unaware of the details and specifics of the cult. OR a lying Shill The best source of info on JW is EX-members who are no longer under the spell of the Watchtower corporation.

bob250
bob250

Defenders of JW's are either members themselves or outsiders who are naively unaware of the details and specifics of the cult. OR a lying Shill The best source of info on JW is EX-members who are no longer under the spell of the Watchtower corporation.

Jason
Jason

Humm . . . shall we then go to Judas Iscariot for the correct info about Jesus Christ? I guess the faithful apostles are not to be trusted: they just may have been a tad bit bias.

Your comment is foolish.

jean
jean

ex-members are usually ones who are mad because they were caught committing a sin there for will talk about Jehovah in a bad light just to make them selves look better. Just because you want to be able to commit adultery or do drugs with out being disfellowshiped means we should have to or listen to you. How is the best source from one who is mad because they dont like the fact its immoral to have sex before marriage or do drugs, or anything else for that matter?

ex-jw elder
ex-jw elder

hello Jean, the problem here is ,your comment is insulting and ignorant of you to express that just because someone change there minds about the organization that they must want to lead a immoral life, such comments reflects the evil in your hart to blast those that have simply come to there sense that the whole thing is nothing but a cult, it make good people think bad and horrid things about other good people , you should take the time and do your own research and you will find the reason the organization does not want spend time on the internet, as an ex-elder for 15 years and a regular pioneer for 14 of those years i felt very strong about the views and teaching just as you, but it was on my death bed that i discovered the no blood beliefwill eventually change due to new light the way so many other views have changed and revised , as an elder we got those correction about every 6 months hence the need for a new elders manual , i did not want to explore and immoral life, nor did i want to got out door to door and tell people things i no longer had confidants in ,i had heard from the stage one time too many," how close we are to the end" i am 50 years old now and i was there in 1968 when the book "truth that leads to everlasting life" was presented at the Atlanta GA international assembly, and my mom showed us the page that pointed to 1975 as the year Armageddon would strike, i remember the fears of a child of every thunderstorm thinking this could be the end, wow talking about child abuse i and others should not have had to grow up with such fears, from your comments i can tell that you are new and ill-advised, when you allow yourself to look out side that box you will find the true meaning of life and living it the way Jehovah intended you to, he wants you to embrace the gift of life and live it well, I was never dis-fellowship in fact i am still considered in good standing but i have no desire to be led to stray anymore, now i am fully happy and have come to embrace what life was meant to be, as long as you stay there, you will Die never knowing the true meaning of life and its gift....that would be sad.

TEE
TEE

If u would have followed the Bible instead of others words u would see that it says no one know the hour, not even the Son! so if Jesus doesnt know the hour it is coming how would an imperfect person? 1 Thessalonians 5 speaks of Him coming as a thief in the night. We never know when a thief is coming. So God teaches us to stay awake paying attention to the things happening around us because by the bad things going on we know its close.

bob250
bob250

My family has been associated with 3 congregations of Jehovah’s Witnesses in Atlantic Canada and Quebec over a 45 year period.There were pedophiles in each of the three congregations, they were never exposed or reported to authorities. Elder’s within the Jehovah’s Witness Halls, kept it secret.Elder’s will go to any lengths to hide any sin inside the Watchtower organization. They said not to tell “outsider’s” of inside problems, as it brings disgrace on Jehovah God. ON January 1, 2008, the Watchtower organization bagan to publish two different Watchtower magazines. One for inside the cult, and one for the public. That should indicate the difference between what they tell the public, and what they dictate to the followers.My expereince with the Watchtower organization has been very negative. The only thing it taught me was to be a good salesman. It destroys families.

TEE
TEE

Wow thats wrong! One watchtower is for handing out in service and the other is done at sunday meetings for question and answer so anyone that attends a sunday meeting can and will get that watchtower so they can follow along and comment if they would like. If any elders kept info like that a secret then they will be punished in due time, thats not what they teach. I have kids that enjoy it very much and i never felt threatend at all and my boys are teenagers they speak their minds and love everyone in our congregation. Dont yall know that if we hide stuff in the congregation it STILL brings reproach on Gods name. Just like satan is doin with this situation!!!!

jean
jean

you can go on line and get those magazines so how is it private? The watchtower study articles are put into one to save paper and money and only one issue a month is placed. It is not so others will not know. Anyone has access to the study articles. They are down-loadable. Please dont talk about things you dont know about.

Gegie
Gegie

Jean - as the J.W. that you are, why are you making comments on this site? You know full well that is a "forbidden" topic, and to even be talking to "worldly" people is also unacceptable. I DO KNOW what i am talking about because i too was raised in this sick,distorted, cult. DO NOT sit here and try to make excuses for the sick cult you choose to be apart of.

TEE
TEE

Uh we talk to worldly people everyday, at work, school and everything we do even door to door so where did u get that! People r soooo blinded by satan as they were when Jesus was preaching and they put him to death but in the end Jehovah says vengeance is His so be careful what u say!

Once Abused Too
Once Abused Too

Disgusting.

And there's no such thing as "preachers" in the congregations, btw.

To you hate mongers here: There is no Policy of "hidden" pedophilia among Jehovah's Witnesses.

The current treatment of such is that those who are accused must also face criminal charges by the family in order to proceed against them. I know, because I've had a family close to me go through the process in the past 10 years. Pedophilia is NOT tolerated; any individual accused and found guilty of such is not just disfellowshipped, but if ever allowed back in, it becomes a permanent warning on their records; they will never be allowed a position of responsibility again. I know: I have personal knowledge of ones who are in this marked position because they spoke to me about what had happened.

I'm sorry, but all this hatred is irrelevant. And I'm sorry, I was also 14 and in a Witness family...I knew whether or not to let people touch me and do such things to me. I was sexually abused/molested when I was younger than 14, and then didn't know who to talk to about it - because my mother was a messed up depressive and my dad was always out of it trying to cope with her insanity. By 14, though, I knew what had happened to me and why it was wrong according to the Bible. This child might have been seduced by this man in a position of power, but he also had either absorbed or not absorbed Bible teachings against such by that age, and his own family's ability to talk openly would have affected whether or not he was talking to them about what had happened. If child hides embarrassing abuse, or a family stifles their own flow of communication, that's not the fault of the congregation as a whole; each individual is responsible for their own standing before God.

In my own situation, I grew up in a household where people didn't talk openly about sex openly; and I know for a certainty that this wasn't the fault of the congregation I grew up in. That was a result of my parents' inability to communicate. I've never fallen for this absurd idea so many of you hate mongers have, that somehow the congregation is at fault for what happened to me.

What's at issues is this one man was indecent and twisted and used a child's trust to do what he did. And yet, a 14 year old knows what fornication is, no matter what, when you are in a Witness family. To blame the congregation for the actions of such a wolf in sheep's clothing is just a way to make excuses for whatever your own internal problems are and find someone to blame for your desire to not be a part of this system of belief anymore. IMO, this man should face the consequences for his illegal and disgusting actions, and his name certainly is repugnant beyond belief; he deserves whatever he gets. You reap what you sow. It doesn't make a difference if he's Catholic, Jewish, Presbyterian, or JW. He is a predator and deserves punishment. Was not punishment given in Israel to such perverts? So shall it come upon this man, and hopefully to any others who want to use their position to find new victims.

This man is a pig for what he did; and the author of this article is a pig for describing the indecency against the child so vulgarly.

jean
jean

I agree I would never blame Jehovah or the congregation. These ones are being weeded out and if they are known about are reported and Disfellowshiped from the congregation. It is not taken lightly. the reason it goes on for so long is because its not reported. Its up to us as parents to educated our children about sex so they know about molestation. If we dont then they are targets and can be victims. But if the congregation didn't even know about it how can they report it to authorities?

Bill
Bill

It is interesting that no blame is given to leadership by your comments. It is the policy of the organization that silenced the victim for 30 years and allowed this man to have assembly parts and have access to hundreds of children unrestricted for 30 years as an elder. You know it is not swept under the rug?????? Well in this case it was 30 years. At the silentlambs website www.silentlambs.org there is over 1,000 testimonies of JW children that were molested and in each case it was swept under the rug. There have been 23 documentaries in 13 different countries each with numerous testimonials of JW children being molested and covered up. So if your molestation was not you are certainly an exception to the rule. Shame on you for insulting this victim and the hundreds of thousands that have been irreparably harmed by the polices of this religion on child abuse.

TEE
TEE

That is not the policy of the religion< in the Bible Jesus stated His Father's words that fornicators, idoltaers, nor men who lye with men will inherit his kingdom. So if witnesses follow God and Jesus how could they possibly ignore an act like this. When Jesus was preaching and the children tried to run to him and got stopped Jesus said let them come because kids were the most important to him, so they would be known as hipocrites if they let this happen and still preach the word, it is always reported to the authorities if known about!!

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