Why Medical Marijuana is Awful -- Compliments of Keep AZ Drug Free

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Prescription pot has become a hot topic in Arizona lately because of Proposition 203.

Prop 203 would allow people suffering from various ailments to be prescribed marijuana by a doctor. It will appear on the ballot in November.

A lot of people don't like it, but it's not just conservative party-poopers who are, well (you know), on the parade.

Yesterday we reported that the Arizona Cardinals have joined the fight against the law. The Cards donated $10,000 to an anti-medical-marijuana group called Keep AZ Drug Free. In our article, we noted that the group didn't return our call to tell us why it thinks medical marijuana is so horrible.

Today, leaders of the group called us back and put us in touch with its self-described "most liberal member," who also happens to be a psychologist specializing in addiction.

In the interest of equal time, check out what he had to say after the jump.

Aside from being a psychologist, Ed Gogek is on the group's steering committee and despite contending he's a lefty who once ran for office as a Democrat, he sees legalizing medical marijuana as a huge problem.

"This is not about medical marijuana. I work with drug addicts, so I see how they lie and scam," Gogek tells New Times. "When this is done in other states, only about 3 percent of the people who use it have serious problems. Anyone can claim 'pain.'"

Gogek points to the problems California's had with medical marijuana and blames -- among others -- the doctors prescribing the weed.

"Almost all of this marijuana is being prescribed by doctors looking to make money," he says. "Arizona advocates say Arizona won't turn into California, but they've actually made the law much worse [than California's]."

Gogek claims Arizona's proposed law is almost identical to California's and would create all the same problems with the money-grubbing doctors. He says Arizona's proposed law is worse because there is nothing in the law that makes it illegal to drive a car, or go to work, stoned.

The specifics of the law aside, we wanted to find out what about marijuana the group finds so horrible and -- as the Keep AZ Drug Free Web site claims -- "dangerous."

Gogek says car wrecks and teenage stoners are the main social problems Arizona would face if medical weed was allowed in the state.

We pointed out that there already are plenty of people driving around stoned now and that teenagers are already getting high. He says when medical marijuana enters the fray, the number of people doing those things increases.

"When you allow medical marijuana, it says to kids 'this is an okay way to treat pain,'" Gogek claims. "When medical marijuana is allowed, there are more people using it and more people driving around stoned. California's rate doubled."

Gogek says the medical benefits of marijuana aren't even that spectacular. He says it's great for treating nausea, but when it comes to other ailments, there are safer, more-effective treatment methods.

"The question is, does the benefit outweigh the risk," he asks. "Marijuana does not meet that standard."

Gogek says he can't see any scenario where he'd support the legalization of medical marijuana. For him to even consider it, he says two things must happen.

First, he says, there would need to be a stipulation that anyone who seeks a prescription for certain types of ailments seek a second opinion from a specialist. Secondly, he would want the law to require a full examination of any patient seeking medical marijuana -- not just a quick, five-minute visit with a Dr. Feelgood.

Gogek seems to find the whole idea that marijuana holds some miraculous medical value as a ploy by potheads to legitimize their drug of choice.

He may be right, but at the end of the day, it's still only weed, dude. Nobody ODs on bong hits.

Gogek has a Web site. Check it out here.



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musky_man1
musky_man1

What prohibition has wrought is magnitudes worse that anything that will happen if cannabis were legal. Cannabis prohibition has brought:

1) Billions to drug cartels (alcohol prohibition did the same thing).

2) Incarcerated millions of non-violent people in the US and Canada at a huge cost to society - 1 TRILLION+ dollars in the US alone in the last 40 years

3) Allows no distribution controls -- more kids smoke cannabis than drink alcohol.There is a yearly US survey that shows that consistently year after year.Dealers do not care about kids.

4) Allows no control over cannabis that might be laced with far more harmful, addictive drugs.

5) Perpetuates the "harm" that cannabis does. I submit that because millions use it now in the US and Canada, that harm would have shown itself now -- it has not. In fact, the tremendous medical benefits of cannabis are now really starting to be known -- read Clint Werner's book, Marijuana: Gateway to Health. Go to You Tube and see "Run From the Cure".

6) Would provide police with more support i.e., I have trouble supporting police that are going after harmless cannabis users at the expense of those who have committed far more serious crimes. My tax dollars are being wasted -- that bothers me!

I could go on, but I'll close with a few final comments. First, anyone who truly does the research about cannabis almost invariably changes their mind -- it did mine. Second, I am not a cannabis user at the point, but as I age, I want that option ... see the video, "Should Grandma Smoke Pot" ... you will be surprised ... see the video on You Tube by Dr. William Courtney/Kristen Courtney about juicing Cannabis -- a non-psychoactive way of taking it with HUGE medical benefits ... learn about your endocannabinoid system and why cannabis is good for it.  People -- do the research and do NOT accept the government propaganda -- it is, frankly, a pile of half-truths and misinformation.

LASTLY -- WHY DOES THE US GOVERNMENT HOLD SEVERAL PATENTS FOR THE MEDICAL USE OF CANNABIS IF IT HAS NO MEDICAL BENIFIT -- SEE: http://www.cannabisinternational.org/patents.php

Hitchenspick
Hitchenspick

Use to be a pot smoker, but quit by choice. It didn't cause me to have an auto accident, as a matter of fact, it slowed my speed down and was in control of the vehicle. Can't quite make the same statement regarding drunk drivers.What Gogek doesn't seem to realize is that the good people of Arizonia, with permission, will be growing their own pot, which creates less need for the Mexican drug cartel to do business in the state.

Mcolon90
Mcolon90

Hes never smoked the herb, therefore he has no room to talk about the herb

D Voltaire
D Voltaire

Hey Eddy, Guess WHO?!"This is not about medical marijuana. I work with drug addicts, so I see how they lie and scam," Gogek tells New Times. "When this is done in other states, only about 3 percent of the people who use it have serious problems. Anyone can claim 'pain.'"

Gogek See's how Drug addicts "lie". Gogek calling anyone else a liar that is the definition of hypocrisy!!!I'm just taking my reply to one of Eddy's other rants of stupidity and Lies!http://www.trivalleycentral.co...

Wow Gogek calling something dishonest, that is the very definition of hypocrisy!Gogek:"that’s dishonest. In other states only 2-3 percent of medical marijuana patients have cancer, AIDS or glaucoma. The rest have mild problems"TRUTH:In the 14 States that have passed total decriminalization of Medical Marijuana more than 10% of patients do get MMJ for the Serious Illnesses you listed(i.e. Cancer, Glaucoma, AIDS, HIV) and you already Know that "chronic pain" embodies conditions such as IBS, IBD, Chrohn's disease, colitis, pain from auto accidents, migraine sufferers, Arthritis, Epilepsy, ESRD/dialysis patients, Fibromyalgia, Hypertension, Muscular DystrophyParkinson’s Disease, Post Traumatic Stress Disorder, Quadriplegia, Radiation Therapy, Seizure Disorders, Sleep Disorders, Spinal Cord injury/Disease, Sports Injuries. Are You suggesting Eddy that these people should suffer needlessly because Lord Grogek from above has declared their suffering from "MILD" Problems???

Grogek: "Under Prop. 203, employees can come to work high on marijuana and can’t be fired or sent home for the day even if they’re heavy equipment operators or school teachers.-And people can drive under the influence of marijuana and can’t be charged with DUI. "TRUTH: [36-2802] of the Proposition! Read it! People intoxicated on Marijuana at work or behind the wheel will in FACT have NO protection whatsoever!!! Trace amounts of THC can stay in a patient system for up to 5 weeks after they medicate, they are only responsibly protected from being deemed intoxicated only for these trace amounts!

Gogek:"Medical marijuana states have the highest rates of teenage marijuana use."TRUTH:States with Medical Marijuana laws report less than 1% increase in teen Marijuana Use and that's only because people tell the truth when they are not scared of being thrown in cage! California Teen Marijuana use has Dropped Below the National Average! (thank you for saving us from the 20% or 30% nonsense, make up just one number and stick to that lie you fool!)http://www.opposingviews.com/a...

Grogek:"Besides, the American Cancer Society and National Multiple Sclerosis Society are against medical marijuana"TRUTH: They both support Research of Medical Marijuana, in fact the ACS funds Marijuana research!

So you have to wonder why someone would make all this up??? Drug Treatment Centers make millions of dollars every year from prohibition!

http://ww3.cancer.org/docroot/...

http://www.nationalmssociety.o...

http://www.cancer.org/Treatmen...

The truth will set you free, but first it will make you Very Angry!

If you had One valid complaint against Prop 203, why would you ONLY use empty lies to oppose it?

Prop 203 is the best legislation written to date in our Country to walk the line and both provide patients the Protection they deserve and also provide our communities with protection through regulations and restrictions!

Here's some more of his lies, be sure to see the comments!http://prescottaz.com/main.asp...

ZZardozz
ZZardozz

Cannabis isn't medicine? Really? How do you explain these pictures of old Cannabis medications, which were available in every drug store prior to 1937? http://www.momsformarijuana.co...

Cannabis is SO MILD, they gave it to infants with colic! People used it widely and there were no problems. The powers that be in Washington wanted to outlaw Hemp, because it was competition for synthetic fibers, and other products. "Marihuana" was the excuse to get rid of it.

SO,,, you people who claim Cannabis has no medical use - HOW do you explain these pictures? (of course nobody will comment on that one)

NJinFlag
NJinFlag

It's interesting that he referred to himself as a "psychologist" as he's really a psychiatrist who at least once and possibly still does prescribe a bunch of prescription meds much worse than marijuana. He then went back to school and studied homeopathic medicine and now is focusing on that type of medicine. You would think he would have learned that the benefits of medical marijuana certainly outweigh any risks and that it's much better than so many prescription drugs.

Child
Child

Arizona may be the ONLY state in the USA who will prevail and protect the values of what America is all about. The problem with America today is that they no longer give a hoot about the children. They only care about their own self-centered ideas. The children are the future. The adults have the responsibility to protect, teach and care for the children. If the adults neglect, ignore and destroy the children today, America will destroy itself in the future.

Dave Hempreneur
Dave Hempreneur

Being from California, I did not like the Cards that much any way but now I really don't care for them. Great reporting, and their lack of response shows they can't defend this in any way.

What about ex-football players who, after sacrificing their bodies for the sake of the owners, are now in need of a sustainable way to control their pain? I guess the Cards support opiates for pain maintenance - OK to get addicted or die cause they are now legal. A strange world......www.healthygreenmedicine.com

TrentO
TrentO

Please give the quack a piece of your mind let him know hes ignorant. DrGogek@gmail.com

Morbidph8
Morbidph8

Here is the email of this quack please give him a piece of your mind. lol DrGogek@gmail.com

Shoppi Cartlaw
Shoppi Cartlaw

Don't believe the hype that marijuana is safe. Marijuana use results in dependency on marijuana for many people evident by the number of people using marijuana today. MARIJUANA will CONTROL you and your life, and you cannot do anything about it but push other people to use it with you.Face it, MARIJUANA is controlling people's lives today that's why there are various propositions on legalizing marijuana.Admit it, you as a pot user, need to have marijuana because you are dependent on it. Your entire life is a lie and you are spreading this lie to others. Marijuana users generally feel this euphoria that they don't have to worry about anything. They push others to use pot like them thinking that pot is the answer to their sorry lives that they cannot accept without pot. Don't be deceived by pot users and pushers. There is a reason why pot is called dope. You cannot believe information that is coming from a pot user because the pot user's mind is altered to believe 100% in this drug and be dependent on it. You cannot have a proper discussion with a mind that has been altered by pot. That's is why medical marijuana programs are a complete mess evident that people who proposed these laws have damaged brains that can't properly organize a program to not conflict with other laws. The medical marijuana programs are a testament of a psychedelic circle of conflicting laws proposed by pot users and pushers.

Hoo
Hoo

This Keep AZ Drug Free propaganda also lies in that same FAQ answer by stating that the American Medical Association has "rejected" cannabis as medicine. In fact, last November the AMA called for a review of the Schedule 1 status of cannabis because of scientific studies indicating "...that smoked cannabis reduces neuropathic pain, improves appetite and caloric intake especially in patients with reduced muscle mass, and may relieve spasticity and pain in patients with multiple sclerosis." http://www.ama-assn.org/ama1/p...

Even the DEA has had enough fortitude to remove references in their propaganda incorrectly citing that the AMA supports Schedule 1 status (due to pressure from Law Enforcment Against Prohibition. This anti-prop 203 group needs to be called out on their lies!

Pit Boss
Pit Boss

This guy is a clown and a liar. I just checked out that sham http://keepazdrugfree.com and looked at the FAQ and it is full of lies and propaganda. Here's an example:

QUESTION: The Marijuana Policy Project says marijuana is medicine. Does Keep AZ Drug Free think marijuana is a medicine?

ANSWER: No. Marijuana is a Class I illegal substance under the Controlled Substance Act, because it has been found to have no acceptable medical use, is subject to abuse, and is not safe for use even under a physician’s care.

To the "doctor": Please don't play games with people's health. If marijuana has no medical value, why is THC (the chief psychoactive cannabinoid in marijuana) available in pill form under the name Marinol? http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pu...

Now doctor, why would you and your politically-motivated organization blatantly lie about this? Why would you purposefully mislead people into thinking marijuana has no medicinal value when it's already been approved by the FDA for appetite stimulation, nausea and vomiting? That sounds very unethical to me.

Pit Boss
Pit Boss

There are financial and political interests here that you'll never hear these guys talk about. Vote YES on Prop 203.

Jos Harrison
Jos Harrison

If the concerns he has are valid, then i think i'm going to have to vote against it. Honestly while i'm not interested in getting stoned, i am for it being legal, but i also realize that consumption should be regulated like alcohol, or perhaps narcotics, both of which are illegal to be under the influence of while driving or using heavy machinery. Do people do it? -=looks around=- I'm sure some people do, but that doesn't make it right. Give me a law that has the same restrictions as alcohol, and i'll vote yes, screw the need for a prescription.

Seanb
Seanb

vote yes on 203

Hackel 1949
Hackel 1949

What do u think about state of AZ. Opening medical dispensers?They claim I can have XX oz / week with a prescription. The problem is Doctors won't / can't write a script. Without putting there license at risk. Pressure from the federal government and colleagues. I know this as my Rehab doter at the University of Wash State Medical Center said use marijuana if it helps but I can't write a prescription or even advise the use. Because of politics, pressure from above.If a physician does write a script is my Insurance going to pay? And if not. Who will set the price.I am on a fixed income totally disabled in a industrial accident in another state. Will my L&I pay.This proposed system might work fine if you can afford the price. And how will they set a price?? are they go to use inflated street prices or there own over inflated estimates of values as bench mark.? This proposal is whrittled with problems. Keep the State out of the medication business. Politician and Law makers are not doctors.And I for one want to grow my own. It's all about quality control. Dave.

Livinisez
Livinisez

Is this guy for real? Sounds to me like their token liberal has gone over to the dark side. The real issue here is the thousands of kids in jail over draconian drug laws. Face it kids, prohibition still doesn't work. I think the only hope for real decriminalization will be when the tobacco companies see the cash cow that cannabis can be.

Docbob498th
Docbob498th

Yeah right, the RepubliCONS who control this state really care about kids. that's why Az. is ALWAYS at or near the top of the list when it comes to things like no. of uninsured children, lack of affordable daycare, no. of children living in poverty, no. of teen pregnancies, school dropout rate, etc.,etc. Oh, and Az. was in this position LONG before illegal immigration became a problem . As fra as I'm concerned, Az. is the state that most closely resembles a third world country.

MORBIDPH8
MORBIDPH8

Thats why im against Prop 302. My smokes got taxed to help children. Ok no prob nothing wrong with helping kids. I hate how the state wants that tax money for the general fund. Thats BS. The state needs to cut the fat not steal from programs. And as always YES ON PROP 203!

Docbob498th
Docbob498th

Your blog shows you to be just another pig-ignorant person who swallows the party line without even noticing the bad aftertaste. About every 4 or 5 yrs., I get enough pot to last me about 2 wks. when it runs out I have NEVER had any type of withdrawal, physical or psychological. Btw I am now 61 yrs. old. I recently took an IQ test for fun and scored 136 which, I believe qualifies me to join MENSA (If I wanted to spend time with those self important clowns and I say this from experience). Just an anecdotal note, I was diagnosed with Multiple Sclerosis. The medicine I obtained from the Neurologist didn't do a damn thing so, after much research, I found that marijuana relieved the spasticity associated with MS so I got some and I take exactly 4 puffs from a pipe once a day and guess what? the spasticity is GREATLY reduced. Next time you render your opinion Shoppi, try not to sound so DUMB.

?!WTH!?
?!WTH!?

Don't believe the hype that religion is safe. Religion results in dependency on religion for many people evident by the number of people practicing religion today. RELIGION will CONTROL you and your life, and you cannot do anything about it but proselytize to other people to practice it with you.Face it, RELIGION is controlling people's lives today that's why there are various proposals for spreading the word.Admit it, you as a brainwashed sheep, need to have religion because you are dependent on it. Your entire life is a lie and you are spreading this lie to others. The Religious generally feel this euphoria that they don't have to worry about anything. They push others to practice and think like them thinking that religion is the answer to their sorry lives that they cannot accept without it. Don't be deceived by devout and deluded. There is a reason why religion is called "the opiate of the masses". You cannot believe information that is coming from a religious person because the religious person's mind is altered to believe 100% in this fantasy and be dependent on it. You cannot have a proper discussion with a mind that has been altered by religion. That's is why religious rituals are a complete mess evident that people who proposed these religions have damaged brains that can't properly organize a religion to not conflict with other religions. The religious rituals are a testament of a sociopathic circle of conflicting philosophies proposed by the religious and the devout.

---

See I can spew (non?)-sense, too...

Pit Boss
Pit Boss

And Reefer Madness lives on. Thanks to this idiotic and unethical "doctor", you have automatons like this who now buy into the latest anti-medicinal marijuana tactic: Let's tell everyone that the only reason pro-legalization groups are speaking out is because they are made up of marijuana addicts. And of course, addicts will lie to get their fix, so they're really just trying to make it easier to get for themselves. LOL! Makes perfect sense and doesn't sound too irrational at all! Thanks doc!

Thanks for telling lies to protect your own interests as well. Thanks for neglecting to mention that marijuana has been used as a medicine for over 5,000 years and has several thousand studies backing up its medical value despite our Government refusing to research it.

While the doctor lies to us and tells us no Medical Organizations view marijuana as medicine and thus don't endorse it, here is a partial list of Medical Organization who've gone on record as saying it should be reclassified and made available to patients:

- American Medical Association (blatant lie by this "doctor" and his group, thanks Hoo)- American College of Physicians- Leukemia & Lymphoma Society- American Academy of Addiction Psychiatry- Institute of Medicine- American Academy of Family Physicians- American Academy of HIV Medicine- American Nurses Association- British Medical Association- American Psychiatric Association- Lymphoma Foundation of America

And hundreds of others.

I can only assume that since this "doctor" is only a psychologist, and therefore cannot prescribe medicine, that he feels he can ignore the Hippocratic Oath that M.D.s are bound to. Very ethical of you, "doctor."

I have to wonder if Mr. Bidwill has some ties to pharmaceutical, alcohol or private prison industries. Perhaps his fortune rests in areas other than the Cardinals (which would make sense considering that the franchise was a mess before Warner's arm took over).

Thanks James King, for being a true professional and letting both sides of the debate have their say. That in itself allowed for this "doctor" to spread his lies but to an audience that knows the truth. And here I thought fear and scare tactics were reserved for the religious right.

Morbidph8
Morbidph8

Please stop being a ignorant fear monger. Either do some research and find the TRUTH of STFU. Thank you. VOTE YES ON PROP 203 VOTE YES ON PATIENTS RIGHTS!!!

Morbidph8
Morbidph8

Wow total BS. There is no proof that Cannabis is addictive. Tell me ever see a episode of Intervention about a pot head? Of course not. You might wanna you know google some stuff because you have no clue.

"For some users, perhaps as many as 10 per cent, cannabis leads to psychological dependence, but there is scant evidence that it carries a risk of true addiction. Unlike cigarette smokers, most users do not take the drug on a daily basis, and usually abandon it in their twenties or thirties.

Unlike for nicotine, alcohol and hard drugs, there is no clearly defined withdrawal syndrome, the hallmark of true addiction, when use is stopped."

-- Colin Blakemore, PhDChair, Dept. of Physiology, University of Oxford (U.K.), andLeslie Iversen, PhDProfessor of Pharmacology, Oxford UniversityEditorial, The Times (U.K.)Aug. 6, 2001

johneverest
johneverest

The AMA also said it does not support and current state initiative for medical marijuana....lets not leave that out. The AMA said a review of its status should be done, which I agree it should. A complete unbiased study needs to be done by a group that is niether pro nor anti marijuana, that way the true medical relavance of it can be determined and we can know what it should and shouldnt be used to treat and what interactions it has with other medications. HIV patients for example have studies out there indicating that HIV patients who use marijuana progress to AIDS much quicker than HIV that do not. Before we cover the entire country with differing state laws on it and keep telling people its great, we need the proper testing to be done which has not. VOTE NO on 203 ....the real fight is with getting the feds to allow controlled medical testing

HaroldPeterson
HaroldPeterson

You just made a great point....there is already a pill form containing THC, so why does no one want to use it.....? Because you dont get high. It is clear that the doctor was referring to the form in which most people will be using it if pass, which is by smoking it.

NO on Prop 203
NO on Prop 203

You're right the hidden interest is the main supporting organization behind prop 203 has the mission of complete legalization of weed for medical and non medical purposes and they are sadly using patients as a stepping stone.

TrentO
TrentO

Read the law it has the same restrictions as alcohol. IE can't drive or be high at work. http://stoparrestingpatients.o...Ed Gogek is a quack he stands to lose money from court appointed drug classes if this passes.

TrentO
TrentO

Read the lawhttp://stoparrestingpatients.o...If you live 25 miles away from a dispensary you can grow your own. Also the more patients a dispensary have the cheaper the cannabis gets. VOTE YES ON PROP 203 VOTE YES ON PATIENTS RIGHTS!!

Charles Ward
Charles Ward

Come on, the Cardinals are deeply tied to the alcohol cartels. Ever count how many beer commercials appear in even one game on the TV? Most college and pro sports teams are just as connected, too. Regardless of whether Bidwell actually owns stock in any of those industries, he gets paid indirectly. His hand is definitely in the till.

jojo
jojo

Tell all the people in rehab for marijuana that its not addictive!

TrentO
TrentO

No VOTE YES on prop 203. We get enough states together on this. Plus after CA passes prop 19 and legalizes cannabis, The Feds will have no other option but to LISTEN to us. It's time to stop the lies and fear. Tell the Feds enough is enough, Prohibition needs to end. It failed for alcohol and it failed for cannabis. I'm tired of my hard earned tax dollars going to a failed war on drugs.

ZZardozz
ZZardozz

OK then, if Cannabis has no medical value, how do you explain the existence of Marinol? If Cannabis doesn't work, why would Marinol work, and why is that preferable to you? Marinol costs about $500 per month to take or more, and only contains ONE cannabinoid. Natural Cannabis has a balance of many Cannabinoids, most notably CBD, which balances out the THC. CBD actually brings you down. It's the anti-THC component.

If it's so important to you that Cannabis medicine is only available from big drug companies, at least endorse Sativex, which is made from the natural plant!

Morbidph8
Morbidph8

Ummm you can also eat and vaporize cannabis. You don't have to smoke it. Marinol is a joke. I love how people claim cannabis is not medicine yet tout Marinol as a useful drug. Wow big Pharma has you brain washed.

Pit Boss
Pit Boss

What's the difference what form it's in? It's the same chemical, only one is synthetic an one is natural. And one is patented by a drug company and costs $10 per dose. Guess which one?

Thanks for proving my point.

captkeebz
captkeebz

People don't use the pill because it doesn't relieve their pain, and it costs 3 times as much.

ZZardozz
ZZardozz

Here's the deal: 2 things are true. Cannabis is an ancient medicinal plant that is good for so many things, it can be considered to be a panacea. Any alcoholic who switches to Cannabis from drinking alcohol SHOULD BE ENCOURAGED to do so! That is a legitimate medical use, among many others!

It is also a non toxic inebriant for those who aren't sick. It isn't either - or, or one vs. another. Both things are true.

MORBIDPH8
MORBIDPH8

More lies... BTW why do you care if a harmless plant used for thousands of years is made legal? What business is it of yours what I put into my body? Why do you have the right to take my rights away? Fear and Lies will never overcome Truth and Logic VOTE YES ON PROP 203!

NO on Prop 203
NO on Prop 203

Actually while the law adresses impaired driving, it also protects drivers that are high from being prosecuted based on having it in there system. there is no standard for testing it like there is alcohol and your blood alcohol content. What does this mean....It means you cant drive while high but if you do, police officers hands are tied to actually enforce it.

MattArmstrong
MattArmstrong

Something like 60% of all rehab admissions are court ordered, so that's a pretty lame argument.

TrentO
TrentO

Court appointed drug classes don't count. Ever see an episode of Intervention on a Pot Head? Of course not.

Pit Boss
Pit Boss

You mean the people who are given the choice between rehab and jail time when they're arrested? The majority of patients in rehab for marijuana aren't there because they sought treatment, they're there to avoid jail time.

ZZardozz
ZZardozz

It doesn't matter how much or how often you point out that Cannabis can be vaporized or eaten. The prohibitionists will always go back to that talking point of "anything you smoke can't be good for you". They KNOW that it's not a valid argument, but they use it anyway because enough gullible people, who won't research it, will be believe it.

MattArmstrong
MattArmstrong

Currently there is no standard for Marijuana, Cocaine, Heroin, Vicodin, Morphine, Codine, etc, yet there are people that get busted for DUI for them every day. It's called a road sobriety test.

MORBIDPH8
MORBIDPH8

Philips to unveil saliva-based roadside drug test later this year http://www.engadget.com/2009/0...

Not to mention cops could carry a simple mouth swab drug test that takes minutes to take, and will show drug use in the past 3 hours. You have no argument. VOTE YES ON PROP 203!

Morbidph8
Morbidph8

There is a reason for that. If I where to medicate, then say 3 weeks later get into a car crash. I would not get a DUI for having THC metabolites in my system still. BTW our cops are not idiots they can tell when somebody is impaired. Please have a little more faith in the people that serve and protect.

captkeebz
captkeebz

Reckless driving is still against the law, and you used the word 'there' incorrectly FYI. Maybe you should go back to school.

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