"Spiritual Warrior" Sweat Lodge Organizer Holds "Self-Help" Seminar and Tells Audience How Hard Deaths Have Been on Him

• It would be great if we could see more accredited news reports featuring both sides of the coin, not just James Ray's!

• <p>How important is your undergraduate major with getting into dentistry school? I'm planning on majoring in music in addition to taking my math and science classes. I love music so much and want to get an education in it, but I don't want it as a career. I know technically you're undergraduate major can't stop you if you kill the DAT, but I dunno. My overall goal is to be an orthodontist.</p>

• <p>This is truly a wonderful process gone very wrong. I have participated in a good number of "sweats", some presided over by Native Americans and some not. In ALL cases, everyone participating was told before and during, "if at anytime you feel uncomfortable, too hot, dizzy etc. GET OUT OF THE LODGE. We also hydrated before, during and after. The processes I have been to have had nothing to do with endurance and everything to do with prayer, connection to God, forgiveness, reverance, acknowledgement of family and loved ones and, of course, the natural purification process due to sweating. </p>

• <p>I just wanted to say that I am very refreshed that this article is offering critical thought and opinion in response to James Ray's very obvious attempts at PR damage control. </p> <p>It would be great if we could see more accredited news reports featuring both sides of the coin, not just James Ray's! </p> <p>Thanks to Duff McDuffee's twitters, I came across a very interesting talk radio piece. It features someone who was at the scene in Sedona and recounts what she witnessed (A licensed and practicing counselor BTW), with special guest Jim Tree (A Native American trained to perform sweat lodges). I felt that it offered considerable insight about what was going on there. As well as being educational for anyone curious about what a traditional Native American sweat lodge REALLY entails. </p> <p>The podcast version can be found here...</p> <p><a href="http://www.blogtalkradio.com/ShawnaBowen/2009/10/13/Support-and-Insight-for-Parents-with-troubled-Teen" rel="nofollow">http://www.blogtalkradio.com/ShawnaBowen/2009/10/13/Support-and-Insight-for-Parents-with-troubled-Teen</a> </p>

• <p>I cant believe he would try to imitate a traditional ceremony for personal monetary gain. Nothing good could of come from that as youve seen. Messing with a religious ceremony</p>

• <p>There's so much more to this fraudulent cult leader. There were warnings about him on Rick A Ross's cult watch forum over 2 years ago. <a href="http://forum.rickross.com/read.php?12,77450,77484#msg-77484" rel="nofollow">http://forum.rickross.com/read.php?12,77450,77484#msg-77484</a><br /> There's a copy of the waiver he made the victims sign that clearly indicates he was out for their money and completely indifferent to their safety.<br /> Does anybody know what the Arizona statutes have to say about criminally negligent homicide because it sounds like it to me.</p> <p>This isn't even the first time that paramedics had to be called to one of his fake sweat lodges. People have been taken to the hospital before when this new age cult leader tried to "push them to their limits." </p> <p> When you do something this stupid that can forseeably result in the death of a human being, you need to be in prison. Also, I hope the families and loved ones all get good attorney's and sue Oprah for making this guy a millionaire. She has promoted so many fake native writers I can't even count them all.</p> <p>New Age quackery is BIG BIG business up in Sedona, so the power and the money will probably get together and spin this thing. Ray has already hired his own investigators! Ha! He's using his millions to do damage control. He didn't even visit Liz Neuman in the hospital and she's still in a coma. He went to his next seminar to charge the gullible fools there $900 to hear his bull. He'll be in La Jolla California at the Hyatt regency this Saturday if any Natives want to go and help AIM protest this murdering fraud. He's so broken up about the deaths he caused he's only charging half price for the next spiritual retreat. Only $250,000 to risk some more lives. Go get em feathered bastard!!!</p>

• <p>james ray is no spiritual warrior. i agree with the two comments. he is not native and he needs to go to prison where there are real natives who have respect for their ceremonial ways, who will deal with him for making a mockery of their sacred ways. the only god he knows is on the almighty dollar.</p>

• <p>Ah, poor new aged kook. He got $600,000 to peddle his stupid self help to willing dupes at $10K a pop. Then, because these sheep felt they needed this grifter's guidance they went into a crowded tent full of steam, without any controls, or any safeguards and died.</p> <p>Ray is responsible, and the idiots that willing allowed themselves to climb into this woo woo death tent share part of the blame.</p> <p>Throw this moron in prison, and we will see how well his snake oil works there.</p>

• <p>The only difference between this guy and James Baker is he thumps his own book instead of a bible. </p> <p>Phony asshole.</p> <p>No one has the right to replicate the religious ceremony of the native americans.</p> <p>If this guy is 'being tested' then he must have an inkling of how the families of the sick and dead from his sweat lodge are feeling now.</p> <p>I have a message for this guy:</p> <p>Your test has just begun, you asshole.</p> <p>You are so self important you fled the scene, like so many criminals who kill and flee.</p> <p>You are a piece of manure, nothing more.</p>

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