Salvia Targeted by Arizona Lawmakers; Proposal Would Make Sales to Under-21 Crowd Illegal
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A bipartisan group of state lawmakers want to make it a crime to sell salvia to anyone under age 21.
The little-known herb for sale at some local head shops reportedly produces hallucinations and out-of-body experiences when smoked or eaten. YouTube videos of users under the influence of the "drug" have gained attention recently. According to the Las Vegas Sun, there's a movement afoot nationally to outlaw the stuff.
The black market can't be too far behind.
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I highly recommend to anyone to visit http://www.SalviaSociety.org and educate themselves on this herb. Salvia has HUGE medicinal potential, but unfortunately most people get their info on Salvia from YouTube and that's what creates all the negativity. Yes, kids get f-d up on Salvia, but that's not what Salvia is all about. Salvia Divinorum has anti-addicting properties (the only herb of its kind) and has helped many people quit their drug addictions. In addition a researcher in San Francisco claims it can one day cure Alzheimer's! That researcher is a renown doctor sponsored by the US gov't to research salvia divinorum. So next time you wonder why is salvia still legal at the federal level, think about that! And yes, everyone's for banning salvia to minors, sure, but don't limit adults and scientists to explore the potential of this amazing herb!
Posted On: Wednesday, Apr. 22 2009 @ 4:26PMWell at least Arizona isn't flat out banning it.
Setting age restrictions like this is a good idea, and a key regulation for any recreational drug.
Posted On: Thursday, Apr. 23 2009 @ 11:35AMIf salvia is a drug, which it obviously is, it should be regulated. I live in AZ and think it's a really good idea.
I invite anyone to check out http://www.pushthenet.com
Posted On: Thursday, Apr. 23 2009 @ 11:39AMI think it is too bad that we have to justify the legality of a plant by medical necessity. It seems that the states should have to come up with some other reason to ban a plant other than "it has effects similar to other stuff we have banned". I think they should have to articulate a harm that it causes, and how banning it will eliminate that harm.
Posted On: Thursday, Apr. 23 2009 @ 11:47AM@ Mike ... I am with you 100%, unfortunately just like the majority that make up this world and the government, judgments are passed so quickly and based on only what they choose to see. Unfortunately these dumb kids are recording everything they do and are just constricting their future. http://digg.com/d1pM6R
Posted On: Thursday, Apr. 23 2009 @ 11:58AMThis plant should not be used by most people. This is a sacred medicine and should only be used with the highest regard for its powers and in the proper context. People who use this plant without doing so in the proper spirit are giving it a bad reputation. Intruders in the other worlds are likely to pay the price, whether they are aware of this or not.
Posted On: Thursday, Apr. 23 2009 @ 11:59AM"Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the Earth..." Gen 1:29
Posted On: Thursday, Apr. 23 2009 @ 12:01PM"donramses says:
I think it is too bad that we have to justify the legality of a plant by medical necessity. It seems that the states should have to come up with some other reason to ban a plant other than "it has effects similar to other stuff we have banned". I think they should have to articulate a harm that it causes, and how banning it will eliminate that harm."
Don Ramses, tell that to your dad when he gets Alzheimer's or your sister when she gets AIDS, or your mom when she gets addicted to crack. This was the most idiotic thing i have ever read! "I think it is too bad that we have to justify the legality of a plant by medical necessity." - ARE YOU F-N KIDDING ME??? http://www.Salvia.md
Posted On: Thursday, Apr. 23 2009 @ 12:13PM@The Shaman: You and your idiotic reasoning has no place in the real world. Do you also believe in an all knowing, all powerful sky-daddy, i.e. god? I bet you don't believe in Santa Claus. Why not? Because belief in a fat man that has magical reindeer is stupid. So is the idea that a fucking plant takes you to "other worlds".
I've only started to hear about this herb. I definitely agree there should be some age limits.
Posted On: Thursday, Apr. 23 2009 @ 12:20PMAll i got to say is outlawing a living thing is complete and utter BS. Regardless of the effect it is not humans right to create LAWS to dictate what can and cant survive on this earth. Just think it is illegal for Marijuana to be growing in the US, obviously we can say goodbye teaching natural selection....instead we should just start teaching human selection. Because within a 100 years that is what earth will be dictated by
Posted On: Thursday, Apr. 23 2009 @ 12:31PMAll i got to say is outlawing a living thing is complete and utter BS. Regardless of the effect it is not humans right to create LAWS to dictate what can and cant survive on this earth. Just think it is illegal for Marijuana to be growing in the US, obviously we can say goodbye teaching natural selection....instead we should just start teaching human selection. Because within a 100 years that is what earth will be dictated by
Posted On: Thursday, Apr. 23 2009 @ 12:31PMBanning salvia (except to minors) will create nothing, but a black market and also move the profits and tax revenues away from the US and create a stronger international market. Salvia is a multi-multi million dollar business in the US. When they ban it here, every American who still wants Salvia Divinorum will just have to order it online from a Canadian company. Very smart politicians we have here! Good job!!
Posted On: Thursday, Apr. 23 2009 @ 12:36PMMike, I think you need to reread what donramses wrote.
He's saying we shouldn't have to come up with ANY reason, medical or otherwise, to keep a plant from being outlawed.
Another harmless substance criminalised. Well done, you have just pumped hundreds of thousands into the illegal drugs trade.
Posted On: Thursday, Apr. 23 2009 @ 12:50PMdonramses says:
"It seems that the states should have to come up with some other reason to ban a plant other than "it has effects similar to other stuff we have banned"."
They always have! It's called "cause of harm." Salvia Divinorum has NEVER been proven to cause ANY harm! The DEA has been studying Salvia Divinorum for over 10 years and they have concluded numerous times that it has no negative side effects, it is not a danger to the public's health and has no potential of abuse.
So again, why do you want to ban this plant?!
Excellent article about why salvia is still legal and always will be at least at the federal level (and in California): http://www.salviasociety.org/legal-salvia.htm
Posted On: Thursday, Apr. 23 2009 @ 12:55PMI always enjoy reading snippets from scientific articles that include the words "May," or "think." My favorite part was when I ran a pubmed search and one of the scientists quoted has never done any research on Salvia. That lends some great credibility to his "think" comment.
Posted On: Thursday, Apr. 23 2009 @ 1:06PMKill it before it grows! That is government for you they hate plants.
Posted On: Thursday, Apr. 23 2009 @ 1:51PMThis video shows the dangerous effects of salvia when it comes to hair growth! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jOOe7aHCKw
Posted On: Thursday, Apr. 23 2009 @ 1:52PM"Mike says
"donramses says:
I think it is too bad that we have to justify the legality of a plant by medical necessity. It seems that the states should have to come up with some other reason to ban a plant other than "it has effects similar to other stuff we have banned". I think they should have to articulate a harm that it causes, and how banning it will eliminate that harm."
Don Ramses, tell that to your dad when he gets Alzheimer's or your sister when she gets AIDS, or your mom when she gets addicted to crack. This was the most idiotic thing i have ever read! "I think it is too bad that we have to justify the legality of a plant by medical necessity." - ARE YOU F-N KIDDING ME??? http://www.Salvia.md"
DONRAMSES IS SAYING THERE IS NO REASON TO BAN ANY PLANT, AND THAT IT IS A SORRY STATE OF AFFAIRS WHEN THE ONLY THING KEEPING PLANTS LIKE THIS FROM BEING BANNED IS POTENTIAL MEDICAL USE. God, read and understand before you voice your opinion.
Posted On: Thursday, Apr. 23 2009 @ 3:59PMI think Salvia should be banned. I've seen enough. Anyone caught trafficking in it should be executed where they stand, the same as for marijuana.
These people should not be brought to trial or given jail time...that is the problem. Just shoot the dealers when you do the knock-knock at their place of residence or by the side of the road when you pull them over and find the drug in the search of their vehicle.
Posted On: Thursday, Apr. 23 2009 @ 4:11PMMike says:
"Divinorum has anti-addicting properties (the only herb of its kind)"
while i completely agree with the rest of your statement i think this may be untrue as ibogain has also been studied and is currently used as a anti-addictive treatment for alcohol among other things
CheechWizard says:
"Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the Earth..." Gen 1:29
this must be gods step child as the plant very very very rarely if ever produces seeds
Posted On: Friday, Apr. 24 2009 @ 5:27AMSince when was a minor under 21? You can buy cigs at 18 but can't smoke anything else? If I'm considered to be an adult by the government at 18 I should have all the adult priviledges I mean come on.
Posted On: Friday, Apr. 24 2009 @ 7:29AMkrame says:
"Mike says:
"Divinorum has anti-addicting properties (the only herb of its kind)"
while i completely agree with the rest of your statement i think this may be untrue as ibogain has also been studied and is currently used as a anti-addictive treatment for alcohol among other things "
Be that as it may, i meant that Salvia works differently from any other substance. "Salvinorin A is the first known naturally-occurring non-nitrogenous full kappa-opioid receptor agonist, and it is the only diterpenoid compound known to have activity at this important receptor." - to read the full article: http://www.salviasociety.org/legal-salvia.htm
Posted On: Friday, Apr. 24 2009 @ 9:31AMCheechWizard displays most ignorant Bible quoting fools by leaving out the whole passage of Genesis 1:29 'Then God said, "I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food."' I don't think people are using this for food... With that said..."It's from the earth, God put it hear for me and you"
Posted On: Saturday, Apr. 25 2009 @ 8:13PMThis really is kind of harsh from the legislators and they should consider the case more seriously.
Posted On: Sunday, Jul. 5 2009 @ 9:47AMMan, Tiger got busted. Hahahaha. Oh well, any man's going to do what he's going to do, right?
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