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Air Traffic Controllers Who Saw UFO Muzzled by FAA

Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 11:38:46 AM

By Ray Stern

Air traffic controllers in the main tower of Phoenix Sky Harbor International Airport saw last night's bizarre spectacle of red lights flying across North Valley skies, but the Federal Aviation Administration won't let them talk to the media.

Ian Gregor, FAA regional spokesman, says the agency's policy won't allow controllers to comment even if they want to relate their experience.

Gregor confirmed that "several" air traffic controllers in the tower saw the staggered formation of mysterious lights moving in the sky, apparently over North Phoenix. He says he heard that second-hand, though -- the tower's manager told him about it.

The controllers didn't consider the source of the lights to be a hazard, because nothing was popping up on radar, Gregor says.

Several media outlets are displaying photographs of the lights taken by Valley residents, which seems to confirm that something was up there. Heck, the Republic even quoted no less an eminent source than one of its own reporters, Anne Ryman, as having eyewitnessed the event. Photos and videos can be seen today on www.azcentral.com.

The lights have defied quick explanation. Even the Sky Harbor lookouts had "no idea" what the darned things were, Gregor says.

Yet it seems clear air traffic controllers could offer a professional description of the UFOs, since they are, presumably, experts at spotting distant aircraft. Their guesses at the altitude, distance, speed and physical nature (if any) of the UFOs would carry more weight than those of the average skywatcher.

Gregor won't budge, though. "This has nothing to do with the FAA," he says.

New Times has filed a formal request with the FAA for radar records of any unidentified aircraft in the area from the agency's Albuquerque and Phoenix-area radar centers, just in case anything was missed.

The sky was clear last night, so the lights apparently weren't reflections from a source on the ground. Aircraft would have shown up on radar. Military stealth aircraft would be unlikely to be covered in brilliant red lights. So would alien spacecraft, in this writer's humble opinion. You take the time to fly thousands, if not millions, of light years across space to Earth, only to put on a relatively boring air show? What hosers, these aliens! They can't even seem to give us a missing man formation, much less the secret to a long-lasting technological civilization.

These new lights may be more mysterious than the V-shaped formation over Phoenix that caused a stir in 1997. After that sighting, the military confirmed there were aircraft dropping flares near the Phoenix area, and New Times reported that a local guy named Mitch Stanley looked at the source of the lights with his telescope and saw -- airplanes. His description of squared-off wings gibed with a type of ground-attack airplane called an A-10 Warthog, the same type the military said had been in the area that night. I didn't see the famed Phoenix Lights, but it makes sense to me that if they might have been A-10s, they probably were.

I'd like a rational explanation for these new lights, and soon -- because the media abhors a vacuum. And there are plently of people who will come out the woodwork to fill that vacuum with all sorts of ungrounded nonsense.

Paradise Valley resident Lynn Kitei, who has made a career out of the 1997 lights, is a case study in how much bull can be packed into a few unidentified lights: "Kitei's research goes far beyond UFOs," says a 2006 East Valley Tribune article. "She said she believes ghosts, UFOs and other unexplained phenomena are all connected."

Still, even skeptics like me can't shake their curiousity about things like this. To paraphrase Carl Sagan, incredible claims require incredibly good evidence. So far, there's just no telling whether these lights represented actual aircraft, reflections, weather-related phenomena, Satan, incorporeal alien life or mass hysteria (sorry, Anne). Stay tuned.

Category: News

18 Comments:

John says:

FAA management covering up again????

Say it isn't so!!!!!

Even if nothing was actually there, why not let the controllers speak unless the FAA is more concerned about the airlines/(real customers) than the flying public.

Drew says:

http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/59456

fools. always gotta be playin games...

Daryl Andrews says:

I don't know about the light last night, but the lights in 1997 I saw.

I have yet to believe that these lights were
flares drop over the military range south of south mountain for one simple fact.

I had an apartment at E. Van Buren and the 202.
Just North of Tovrea Castle. When I saw the lights I was looking North.

So until someone can reasonably explain to me how flares dropped south of South Mountain can appear North of E. Van Buren...

Treeman says:

I ready for more than just lights.

Hello from .... Germany,

your actual UFO-sighting is very ordinary here in Germany. Since 9 months we get in our UFO-Center CENAP all weekends exact such reports from all party of the nation. To call am number: 600 times! Right 600 times in 9 months. It´s ever the same thing: Relativly cheap Asian Skylaterns ! Seen in the nightsky ist it like a scene from Spielberg's 'Close Encounter...'-film. See here our own experiments for inducing UFO-sights here by YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbK7IrrYffI - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCB7dZJJtW4 .
Best from Germany


Werner Walter , German UFO-Center CENAP.de

ET says:

People of Earth. We come in peace. Can any of you tell us how to to get to the entry ramp of the Trans-Andromeda Starway? We've been driving around since 1977, so we finally decided to stop and ask for directions. Nice planet you got here, but seriously, you need more rest stops.

dont look to any world governments for et info they are already in cahoots with the greys who have their own agenda that will not last that much longer. The arcturians and sirians are very spiritual beings here to assisst us with our own spiritual evolution and they are already cleaning up our nuclear mess that should have destroyed our planet already. There are agencies above the president that pretty much run all this hell we see our world in now. Even when clinton was asked about ufo disclosure he responded that there is a government above him that he has no say or info on. That is documented. MIB is real wake up earth people sleeping time is over.

ihki says:

stealth blimp again, its been sighted all over, same M.O

oh yeah for some real scary stuff:

http://patriotsquestion911.com

In other words you have to check your brain at the door to believe the explanations put forth by the government. Therefore those with common sense, the media, and the UFO witnesses are nuts.
I think I went through that before when I believed in Bush.
Joseph Capp
UFO Media Matters
Non-Commercial Blog

In other words you have to check your brain at the door to believe the explanations put forth by the government. Therefore those with common sense, the media, and the UFO witnesses are nuts.
I think I went through that before when I believed in Bush.
Joseph Capp
UFO Media Matters
Non-Commercial Blog

MIKE KEHOE says:

ARMY FLARES DON'T DO DESIGNS? AND DON'T STAY IN FORMATION IF THEY DO PLEASE SHOW ME A VIDEO-TAPE OR FILM ,AND THE REST OF THE WORLD- WHO BELIEVE IN UFO'S. IT'S THE M.A.N.-US.GOVERMENT THAT WANT US TO BELIEVE EVERYTHING IS FINE-GUESS WHAT ? THE WORLD IS ABOUT TO BE AMAZED SOON ,AND WHEN IT HAPPENS WE WILL ALL AWAKEN TO SEE JUST HOW MUCH CONTROL OUR GOVERMENT HAS ON US !!! ARMY FLARES -B/S. i COULD BET THE PEOPLE WHO WITNESSED IT WILL THINK DIFFRENTLY ABOUT OUR FUTURE...WAKE UP PEOPLE,,WE ALL ARE FROM DIFFRENT STARS!!

Juiceman says:

I served active duty in the military in the 90's for a unit that had the opportunity to field test some of the new weapons systems and stuff the gov. was coming out with. I worked first hand with artillery and aircraft deployed flares. I have not seen any flare stay in place for a long period of time and have never seen them make methodical movements as if in formation.
We must consider the purpose for these flares as used by the gov. They are used to apply light over enemy targets, to mark targeting areas or as decoys as are used on A-10's to divert enemy missles.
This poses another interesting question and that is: Why are these lights (especially if they are flares)near a large city like this?

sigh says:

This was just some idiot with some red road flares, and balloons. He admitted to it.

Yes this is technically feasible. These 20 minute flares weigh nearly half a pound (Google Orion Flares) A 1 and a half foot diameter helium balloon can support a half pound payload.

They stayed in a pattern because there was hardly any wind! Geometric shapes will always show up when you have 3 or more fixed points. Just look at the stars at night, what do you see? Individual points of light? or does your brain create patterns? (Constellations)

You people are now making the original 1997 sighting appear FOOLISH! A large CRAFT was seen then, the flares came afterwards as a cover story! You are doing more harm than good by spouting off this nonsense. Do a little research before you make your claims. This is the problem with Ufology. Serious Ufologists get grouped together with sensationalists who are just as bad as debunkers, you wont even try to research these things.

CaboThomas says:

The irrefutable BOOK says that our KNOWLEDGE and our UNDERSTANDING will exponentially increase the closer we come to the END. And it will...

otto says:

I live by Luke AFB, and they F16's were flying that night. It didn't registar until I heard the news the next day. They were out til at least 9:30 when I fell asleep

rob says:

I flew in Vietnam in the USAF; I have never seen TWO flares come down equally much LESS seven??
waiting for SOMEONE in our government to get the BALLS enough to tell us the truth??

Thanks for reporting this.

It's always great to see real journalist report this kind of material.

The heavy curtain of cover up is slowly lifting.

The first real initiative was launched by Dr. Steven Greer in 2001, with the Disclosure Project at the National press club.

If you had to start somewhere looking into this, that is where I would start. It's a great introduction to the subject for your family and colleagues.

Richard Lalancette
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

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