That One Time Soulfly's Max Cavalera Pissed on a Star-Struck Fan, and Other Tales
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I wouldn't change anything. It's fucking crazy. I wouldn't have done some of that shit right now, as a regular person. There was a day I went to Bashas' on a Sunday morning and stole a bottle of vodka. It must have been 10 in the morning on a Sunday and I wanted to drink really bad and Gloria wouldn't give me any money, so I had this plan . . . I got a winter coat with lots of pockets and I walked up to Bashas and got my vodka. I got about three blocks away and three cops surrounded me. They brought me back home and asked Gloria if she wanted to deal with me. I'm glad these things happened. I wouldn't do that now . . . I laugh about it now, but its crazy behavior. I think my life is cooler because I actually did it. I went to the dark side. I know how the "hell" is . . . I don't want to be part of it again, but I know what it is.
Do you think everybody has that? The dark side?
I don't think everybody has that. My brother's not like that at all. He's always been pretty straight. He said in the book that he didn't drink because he wanted to take care of me. I wonder, did I make him like that because he felt like he had to take care of me? He told Gloria that he was so glad that I met her because she could help him take care of me. When they did the intervention, it was both of them. They'd had enough and said, "We can't do it anymore." Igor flew all the way from Brazil to tell me that if I didn't stop, I wasn't going to make it. He said, "We need to get you some help. We all do."
I went to this place [rehab]. It was horrible but great. It was pure hell getting off the drinking and drugs, but it was great.
How long were you there?
I was there six months. I was only supposed to be there for three months, but I wasn't ready. They asked if they could keep me longer. I probably wasn't ready to go after three months.
Do you talk about this in the book? It could really help people.
I think I did a little bit. My mom came to visit, and she talked to a lot of the people there and got to know some people. I mention it toward the end. It had to be this kind of battle for me, or it would not have gotten fixed. Even though I hated the therapies, and it felt like a waste of time sometimes, and I felt like I'd heard it a million times. They have to drill it down into your head. It is part of the process.
Is it difficult being on tour with alcohol around constantly and people partying?
It's all around me. I came to good grips with it. It is a place I don't want to go back to. If I take one painkiller or have one drink, I'm going back to that place and I don't want to go back to it.
Musically, it has been really good. I remember things now. I don't remember much of the Sepultura days. It is all hazy. There is a section in the book where I talk about when I met Dino [Cazares] from Fear Factory and he talks about us meeting in a bathroom in [Los Angeles]. We were taking a piss, and there was this glammed out kid between us, and I just started pissing on the kid. Dino talked about us laughing our asses off and I don't remember any of that.