The Office Finale and Five More Signs Your Indie Music Is Getting Old

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3. "Indie" people love pop.

We talked to Ra Ra Riot last week. Two albums removed from being the quintessential thoughtful college-rock band they're touring right now on this very dance-y album:

It's no longer surprising when an indie band declares its affection for a pop star, or the other way around - vwhen Kanye West puts Bon Iver on an album. It's only surprising now when they aren't excited about it. Influence has moved in both directions.

2. Everybody in the world has been struck by how meaningless "hipster" is

In 2006, linguistic arguments about the word "hipster" were restricted to a small subset of people who were either worried they'd be called hipster or worried they wouldn't be called hipster. In 2013, people use the word to mean basically anybody who has seen an Apple product, which has spread that same fruitless discussion to a much broader audience.

1. That Garden State trailer

They won't let me embed it, but I can link it -- it's that short one with Frou Frou in it. Man does it look like it came out in 2004.

At some point in the past four years, the debate over whether Garden State was good or sucked hardened into a conversation over whether you thought Garden State was good or sucked when people were having debates over it.

None of this really matters, though; the music is the same, and you can and should enjoy it for as long as you want. That was the problem with "indie" from the beginning. When you label music for some reason other than its sound -- the label it's on, the place it's from, the radio stations that play it--you're destined to be proven incorrect by time, and to have to come up with some new labels.

At the time I remember thinking of a lot of this music -- like Jim and Pam -- as New Music, above all else. Now it's just music I listened to when The Office was still on the air.

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