Here's How Not to Approach a Journalist on Facebook

Categories: Beef

Screen Shot 2013-03-08 at 3.50.03 PM.png
This is how your lead singer was going to end our "friendship"? By just writing me off, calling me an uptight twat, and then saying Arizona, the state that he's toured in oh-so-often, was nothing but meth-filled?

Ouch.

At this point, I sent over the contents of our conversation to some local promoters I know. Guess what? They didn't like it, and now you're on the 86 list of clubs in Los Angeles and Scottsdale. Sorry, bro!

I really was open to a friendship with Daniel David Spence and the rest of your bandmates, two of whom are now no longer listed as members on your Facebook page. Hope things are okay internally. But, suffice it to say, we're probably no longer going down that road now that Daniel David Spence has blocked me. I'm okay with that. Fall Out Boy is back together, after all.

Love,
Nicki

See also:

-Top 5 Punk Albums of 2012
-Why Nicki Minaj is the Most Annoying Person in Music Right Now


Follow Up on the Sun on Twitter and friend us on Facebook

My Voice Nation Help
43 comments
Joshua Rodriguez
Joshua Rodriguez

There a lot of stupid people out there, and a lot of them are "artists".

jordobordo
jordobordo like.author.displayName 1 Like

Hi Nicki, I actually used to be in this band.  In fact I'm the guy still featured in the picture on the far left.  I just have to say I have no stake in this band at all, but I find that conversation really hard to believe.  I know dan really well and although he will respond like that to people who really are hard core assholes, i've never seen him just go off on someone for essentially no reason.  This makes me think this is one of two situations. number 1 is that you deleted alot of the thread and there are other messages from you that prompted him to get pissed and block you.  number 2 would be that he was confused at who you were and thought you were some other jerk (he does alot of promoting online and answers alot of messages so it is easy to get confused, i know i used to do it!)  so even though im not in Spence anymore, i'll just apologize to you on behalf of dan and everyone.  I really cant imagine it being more then a misunderstanding.  He's not that big of a dick haha.  but if that is the way it shook out then so be it!  (i added you on facebook by the way but couldnt send you a message)

asugirl8884
asugirl8884 like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 4 Like

First of all, this was supposed to be somewhat funny and a commentary on the ridiculous amounts of spam we all get, which can be extremely irritating especially if you're a journalist.

Second point: Nicki is the nicest, most caring person you'll ever meet. She is also a great journalist. She follows up with people and isn't afraid to ask tough questions. In this case, it was meant to be a joke. Mr. Spence didn't take it so well, and seems to have an extremely large ego and an inability to deal with women who question him. Sounds like he has mommy/girlfriend issues. He needs to learn how to communicate and respect people or he won't go very far in this world.

Whatever the case may be, Nicki doesn't deserve the flack for this. Mr. Spence does. He is rude, immature and clearly needs to grow up. I think the last time I heard the word "twat" use was when I was in eighth grade. Learn how to properly promote your band. Learn how to TALK to other people, especially women, with respect and dignity, instead of like a 12-year-old boy with no social skills. Mr. Spence deserves all the negative feedback he is getting, and it's unfortunate he has to go online and force his friends to defend him. 

As an aside: The most irritating part is the spam is designed to look casual, like he just typed it up. I hate this kind of deception.


bubbaphatbootyhunta
bubbaphatbootyhunta like.author.displayName 1 Like

@asugirl8884 Love the fact that you automatically assume that this guy has an "inability to deal with women who question him".  WAY TO PLAY THE GENDER CARD!  Did it ever occur to you that this might have been a misunderstanding, and the fact that nicool16 has a vagina didn't even enter into it?

Good to see that sexism is still a 2-way street!

reality
reality

Wow you Americans just make everything a goddamn drama don't you?

hadouken
hadouken

@reality Im an american and I think this is absurd. Can't believe this garbage gets posted.

MadInAmerica
MadInAmerica

 @hadouken @reality I'm an American and this is an outrage. How can be people be SO DRAMATIC? I can't even believe it! All they do is get all worked up over nothing! For nothing! Well guess what? I'm done with it. I am going to get everybody on the 86 list of everything everywhere forever.

eovogt
eovogt

I cant believe you make a living doing this.

selough
selough

I think it's time to call the Facebook police.

eremitic
eremitic like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

Wow, love how people are defending this guy for spamming (which is against Facebook policy) and being a manipulative douche.  There are a million better ways to meet connects that don't involve strangers mass spamming and subsequently attacking the person they originally wanted to be friends with on Facebook all because they couldn't use her for what they wanted. Getting them blacklisted may have been a tad overboard but whatever.  Entitled attitudes like that make me think they just spam for plays anyway and puts the entire band in a negative light.  Music isn't even that good, either.  Basically, there's a professional way to go about this sort of thing and nothing this guy did was even remotely close to that.

hotchman1
hotchman1 like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

I wonder how many of the comments here are from fans of this band. Nikki is a good person and not a Twat. Especially not after a 5 min facebook conversation. What a little idiot this guy is.

JustForThis
JustForThis like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

Commenters need to realize that when contacting a promoter or journalist to plug your music/band, sending multiple copy paste messages clearly hinting that you expect some exposure or name passing in return is not only rude, but incredibly unprofessional. Then to follow a simple request to state your business with more bullshit and insults? It boggles the mind...

Good on you Nicki, if this guy wants fame and recognition he can earn it the hard (real) way...

selough
selough like.author.displayName 1 Like

@JustForThis right? These comments saying the writer is the one to blame are saddening. Why would you ever insult someone that you are trying to get to write good things about you? PR and marketing aside, that's just against all common sense. Clearly he knew Nicki's reach by contacting her in the first place. Spamming (yes, c/p and name dropping is spamming) a journalist is going to get you nowhere but the black list.

Popater
Popater like.author.displayName 1 Like

What a cunt Nicki is ey. A few words on Facebook and you end this guys and his friends ambitions. Ha that's journalism for you right?

samom7
samom7 like.author.displayName 1 Like

Writer is an uptight twat, she needs to smoke a blunt and chill da fuuuuuuuuck ouuuuuut. #420blazeitfaggot

DumTwat
DumTwat

@samom7  You need to stop putting strangers dicks in your mouth, that speech impediment you have got there is quite nasty.

Lovekayy
Lovekayy

Spence sounds like the douche, this is not the way to approach anyone.

jondoe1922232
jondoe1922232

writer is an uptight twat:

www.reddit.com/r/Music/comments/1a5hmu/how_not_to_approach_a_music_journalist_on_facebook/

anamendez.photograph
anamendez.photograph like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

He approached you for a useless friend request on FB that you could have ignored, and you tattle and get him banned from LA and Scottsdale. We're you so desperate for his genuine affection?

This is how bands promote themselves, fuck them for trying to get to as many people as possible right? 

DumTwat
DumTwat

@anamendez.photograph Yes fuck them for being spammers, it's also how 3rd party cam porn sites get business as well. Don't be a dumb twat, The band guy was a douche about it all after being confronted lashed out like a 12 year old.

Don't side with 12 year old. We don't like pedaphiles round these parts.

jjeastman
jjeastman like.author.displayName 1 Like

@anamendez.photograph It's not about the attempted self promotion. It's about the unprovoked use of highly derogatory, misogynistic language.  It's completely inappropriate.  Oh! and lets not forget his trashing of an entire State with blatant pompous generalities.   He showed his true colors and deserved what he got.  Boycott this band, at least until they find  a front man worth looking up to.  

anamendez.photograph
anamendez.photograph like.author.displayName 1 Like

@jjeastman @anamendez.photograph She laughed because he was spamming, her whole reason for replying was to get him to admit it was spam. If she had ignored it like a normal human being it would be an adult response. Instead she egged it on and pursued it to provoke him. I don't defend his response to her merely her reaction which I believe is much more drastic than a few curse words. She ruined and is trying to ruin a whole band because of 1 guy. He isn't the only member and I think this Nikki got way to personal.


Plus I don't think the state of Arizona should take his trashing seriously, he was trying to insult her obviously.

Bethan
Bethan

@jjeastman

It's got nothing to do with misogyny, he's just a rude asshole

Bethan
Bethan like.author.displayName 1 Like

@selough The word isn't used to be directly misogynistic, it's just being used as an offensive word, regardless of who's fucking genitalia it happens to be referring to. That's like saying that by saying the word 'fuck', you're against sex in some way, because it's providing a negative connotation towards sex (it doesn't, that would be stupid). The word 'fuck' is now used as an offensive word in general, not just to describe two people having sex. Just because the journalist was female, does no mean that the use of the word 'twat' was misogynistic - it is just a word he happened to choose.

selough
selough

@Bethan @jjeastman it became misogynistic when he used the word twat, which is a derogatory term aimed towards women.

AdamS
AdamS like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

@anamendez.photograph

This is not how GOOD bands made up of GOOD people try and promote themselves. This is how shitty bands full of shitty douches promote themselves. 


anamendez.photograph
anamendez.photograph like.author.displayName 1 Like

@AdamS @anamendez.photograph I've received a few of these requests from bands, if this Nikki was so offended and thinks of herself so highly that she does not like being approached in a copypaste spam manner then all she had to do was ignore it. Instead she eggs and makes fun of the artist for spamming and then pouts and gets revenge when he insults her. 

bigboyg
bigboyg like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

Holy shit Nicki is a douche


bubbaphatbootyhunta
bubbaphatbootyhunta like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

Wow!  You seem to be as big a twat as the singer!  Congratulations, and all the best in your "social media strategist" career!

thetrunkspace
thetrunkspace like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

that's awesome Nicki. take the power back!

jjeastman
jjeastman like.author.displayName 1 Like

Didn't his mother ever teach him manners?  That is no way to talk to a lady.

rwinslett
rwinslett like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

Always nice to see someone's true colors shine through. What a pompous ass.

stevie.rice
stevie.rice like.author.displayName 1 Like

@rwinslett Not just that, he's been trying to get in touch since last August. He had finally got a response. Was "shit happens" the best he could manage?

From the Vault

 

Clubs

Phoenix Event Tickets
©2013 Phoenix New Times, LLC, All rights reserved.
Browse Voice Nation
  • Voice Places Phoenix

    Voice Places

    Find everything you're looking for in your city

  • Happy Hour App

    Happy Hour App

    Find the best happy hour deals in your city

  • Daily Deals

    Daily Deals

    Get today's exclusive deals at savings of anywhere from 50-90%

  • Best Of

    Best Of...

    Check out the hottest list of places and things to do around your city