Korn Guitarist Munky Discusses Moving Away From Dubstep With Next Record

Jim Louvau
Munky performing live with Korn.
This past Saturday, Korn crashed through town, performing at the Arizona State Fair. I watched in glee. This is a band that truly contributed to opening the door to metal for me. Before that discovery, I was a sixth grader rocking out to Westside Connection, much to my Backstreet Boy-loving locker partner's dismay.

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So imagine my excitement when Korn's 1998 album Follow the Leader connected hip-hop and heavy metal more seamlessly than any album before or after. I had the opportunity to interview the guitarist James "Munky" Schaffer, and decided to serve it up for this installment of Metal Mondays.

Up On The Sun: You and your wife are expecting your first child any day now right?

Munky: Yes, around November 15.

Do you have any names picked out?

Yes, but I can't say anything! We do have some names picked out though. [Laughs]

Korn has always been at the forefront of the metal's evolution. Jonathan Davis said back in July that you guys are getting ready to record your 11th album, but it's not sticking with the dubstep style. What can you tell me about that?

Well, I'm headed there right now actually. I'm driving to the studio now. We've been working on it for awhile, just recording ideas. I wouldn't say it's a 180 from the last album, but we're definitely taking a different approach. We're not going with the dubstep style, but we are using a lot of interesting recording techniques.

So do you think it will be a bit heavier than the last one?

I think it will be. I think once Jonathan puts vocals on it, it has...it's more melodic and the guitars are more aggressive and much more in your face. I think what we did before was bold and took a lot of balls, in regards to the album devoted entirely to dubstep. To me it's very much a Korn album, but I want to feature more guitar on this album, on the one were writing right now, we still have one foot in the electronic [style], not necessarily the dubstep [sound], and we still have a fresh approach on the guitar riffs with some melodic vocals. Jonathan is great at sort of delivering the aggressive lyrics and vocals.

Jim Louvau
So on The Path of Totality with the dubstep direction, were you completely on board with that at first, or did it take you awhile to warm up to the idea?

I wanted to change things right away, you know, because for so long we were writing songs with the same method. You know, drummer, guitar, bass. And it was nice when we wrote the new record and we just felt like, you know, this feels like it needs something. Jonathan has been really into doing deejaying and is into the more aggressive style of dance music, and we also wanted to keep it simple. So that's why we decided to try some of the dubstep stuff. We've always been a band that's tried to reinvent themselves and innovate what we do, I think. We were at the point in our career you know, our tenth album, like, let's go for it! And if we don't like it, we don't have to put it out. Let's just try it and see if it works. And working on the song "Get Up", it was just so refreshing so after that we thought, like, let's just do a whole album [in the same style].

Alright, so moving on to your side project Fear and the Nervous System. I saw the music video for the song "Choking Victim," and it was so crazy. Can you tell me a bit more about that project? I know you have been working on it for quite awhile.

Yeah, I've been doing this whole thing on my own; from writing the songs to booking studios to hiring musicians, and, you know, it 's been a project that I have been working on for quite awhile. It's hard to find the time to do that when, you know, 90% of my time is focused on Korn. And that extra 10% is time that I have to work with the other guys, recording. Then I leave on tour and come back and record some more. It's been a process for about five years. Finally we got it off the ground and have had a couple shows.

The music, I can't describe. I guess it's like a heavier Smashing Pumpkins, [an] alternative rock album. You can order it through Amazon and iTunes. It's been a long process, considering 95% of it is involved with me. It gives me a lot of gratitude that Korn has been so successfully. It's very humbling to have that level of success. It reminds me of how hard people at labels, management, booking agents...how hard they all work every day for bands. It reminds me of that process.

How is that outlet a different release for you from Korn, musically?

It just feels like two different worlds now. Korn is very aggressive and Fear and the Nervous System is how I can experiment with different instruments and being musical. There's a lot of piano on it, and our keyboard player [Zac Baird] is also our keyboard player in Korn. That's how the project originally started.

Your father passed during the recording process; did that make the music more personal to you, in terms of creating it?

Yeah, it did. It was a really hard time. That's one of the reasons I started the project. I first started writing it with our keyboardist [Baird] on a Korn tour. When I got back from tour I found out my father was in really bad health. We weren't doing anything; Korn wasn't doing anything. So I wanted to sort of...I used music as sort of a drug. It's my escape. I use it to get away from reality, and I think a lot of people are that way. So that's what I did. I thought, "Okay, I have to do something because I don't want to be sitting in a hospital every day, all day." It was hard to deal with, so I went into the studio and just started writing song, and this was the result of it. So really, if we keep the thing going, it's in memory of my father, you know?

Oh yeah, and channeling that type of energy really makes the best kind of music.

Yes, and it's very melancholy. It definitely provided an outlet for that aggression.

I am really sorry to hear that about your dad though.

He was a great man and he lived a great life, and I am glad I was there in the end.

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My wife was a huge fan of Korn and got me into them.  However, since Head left and then David, she hasn't been that much into them, especially as they keep changing their sound.  Now she calls them Kron because it just isn't Korn anymore...  I, however, still love them and am behind them 100% for experimenting and trying new things.

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Aww, and here I thought for sure Kornstep was the wave of the future...

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