IAMWE's "So They Say," as Explained by the Band

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​Isabelle "Bella" Vise is a simple lady. The 100-year-old from Torquay, England led an equally simple life -- well, simple for the time period in which came up.

IAMWE drummer Josh Carlson met Bella while volunteering at a hospice. The two quickly became unexpected friends, and Carlson told his bandmates about this incredible woman he met.

She lived through wars and personal strife, yet decades later, she's still resilient. After the band played her 100th birthday party, they knew she had a story to tell. Lead singer, lyricist and pianist Tim Maiden began to write poetry inspired by Bella's life, which eventually turned into lyrics for the first single from their debut full-length, "So They Say."

"For the first time I walked away from the piano, where usually the music starts," Maiden says. "I started writing a series of poems about and inspired by Bella's story. The song is a dialogue with herself and her own fears, her thoughts, and her body and soul. At this point in her life her first and second husband had already passed, so death was reality. Being a nurse, only God knows the number of soldiers and innocent lives she had seen pass, so not only was it reality, but it was much too close for comfort. Bella was going to either live in fear or face [it.] In 'So They Say,' she does so and makes peace with death."

At this time, Bella would have been 37. Perhaps she didn't know it then, but she still had much living to do.

The album, appropriately titled She's a Soldier, isn't due out until December, but the militaristic, pulse-pounding style on "So They Say" is a consistent theme from the disc.

"Every note, word, and sound was intentional on this song to look into her world and paint what we hope to be the most honest picture of Bella's life and world during the 1940s," Maiden says.

A heavy dose of Local Natives, Yeasayer and Wild Beasts find their way into the percussion-heavy track, but IAMWE, who opened for Neon Trees September 3, find their own, unique perspective that's far different than the Beirut-style worldly folk they were experimenting with prior to She's a Soldier.

IAMWE followed local mainstays Peachcake at the Neon Trees gig. Their show landed them a few new Facebook fans, several of which remarked that they were the best band to play the show.

"So They Say" is available for free download on their website, www.iamweband.com, or you stream it below.



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26 comments
Thomashsi
Thomashsi

In the late 1980s, I went to Mike Maiden's church for prayer.  He did not pray for me, but instead had a female assistant pray for me.  He had given me a Nebuchadnezzar prophecy in Santa Ana, CA, earlier.  I think Satan used Mike Maiden to anoint me into Satanism.  I have overdosed forty-four times (mostly on thirty tablets of 125 mcg Levothyroxine at one time, once on six boxes and bottles of sleeping pills).  I have a demonic guide that trains me/protects me.  I have the word of knowledge, etc. My great-grandfather was the president, premier, and secretary of the army of mainland China.  Beware of devils like Mike Maiden.

Lala
Lala

You go Judy, speak your mind!

Tammy K.
Tammy K.

WOW..glad to hear the story behind the song.. :)

 Judy your "opinion" has nothing to do with the son of Dr. Michael Maiden. Tim is his own man and his relationship with God and people and music are completely separate from his father.  I think it is unfair and vicious to try and spoil his reputation by speaking smak about his father on a page that tells people about their music!  I mean REALLY??!!Furthermore if you are looking for something to criticize or judge in a church ect. you can make something out of anything..just take it out of context of the COMPLETE situation, mix a lie with a little truth and voila,you've deception!! Top that off with gossip and backbiting and presto you have Sin!  I'm quite sure your impressing God..NOT!!.. Grow up already.

random
random

Great response:)

grieved
grieved

REPLY TO CONFUSEDI didn't imply anything.  Those were God's words. I quoted the passage from the Bible.  Miriam and Aaron were murmuring and complaining about a decision that Moses  (the leader of the people) made.  This angered God and  He plainly says to them that they have no right to criticize His servant.Our words are so powerful the Word tells us that death and life are in the power of the tongue.  God sets before us life and death, blessing and cursing and advises us to choose life.  Not only does He tell us to choose life, He adds that if we do, that both we and our descendants may live.I am trying to shed some light on this dangerous slanderous behavior.  I come in the name of truth and love and pray that it is received.It sounds to me that Judy is deeply wounded.  Hurt people...hurt people.  I pray that Judy would have the revelation to know that speaking out against others will not heal her heart.  She has taken offense.  Whether the offense is real or imagined, does not matter it produces the same result and feelings.  When we take the seed of offense, it produces a root of bitterness which wraps around our heart causing pain. I hear the extreme pain in Judy's writing.  It is apparent that Judy already has some that share her perspective.  It will not matter how many she can persuade to share her perspective, she will not find closure or healing in this matter and it will only be a matter of time before she finds fault with some other church, pastor, friend, or relative and the whole cycle will start again. It will be a new day but the same story.  Where has our eternal perspective gone?  One day, we will answer for every idle word.  What about the destructive words?   

Judy
Judy

Some of the CFTN Pastors will have a HUGE amount to answer for, including all of their destructive words and their destructive actions.

Many it's because hurt (offended and bitter) CFTN Pastors . . . hurt people.

I'm so glad that I contacted many investigative news reporters.

Keep drinking that CFTN KOOL-AID!

Jasmine
Jasmine

Dear Judy,

STOP! This is uncalled for! Where is the love in all of these posts?? I'm sorry you feel this way and I'm sorry for however you have been wronged but this is clearly the wrong place for what you are trying to get across. The Bible is clear about confrontation and reconciliation. You are to confront the person you are having an issue with and leave room for repentance. NOT going around talking about other peoples mistakes. Have you ever heard of grace? Sounds like you have much evaluation to do, for you are coming across very bitter.

P.S. did you even download the song??? 

random
random

Great Response:)

BackSlider
BackSlider

I saw this band at their recent Marqee show.  Great songs, groove, vocals and passion!  Ms. Caldwell BIG credit to you for providing some valuable coverage to a new rising group.  And to blogging "Judy", please take your personal problems to your expensive therapist, this article featured music NOT your unresolved issues... "in my opinion"... NO ONE CARES!! 

Judy
Judy

There are several INVESTIGATIVE NEWS REPORTERS, who DO care!!

Heather
Heather

You are the hottest band in AZ!!!!!

I really like your song Magic Carpet ride.  When can I get a CD?

Also are any of you single?  I have been to 3 of your shows and really think your an awesome band.:)!!!!

xoxo Heather;)

iamwe fan
iamwe fan

thank you iamwe for being awesome!!!

Gianna
Gianna

Great article! These guys are full of passion for music and people. Every time I see them their music just gets better and better! Definitely one of my favorite bands, keep it up boys!

GODS child
GODS child

It says in the WORD of GOD the accuser of the breathern is the devil ,so give know place to the devil GOD is the only judge so i pray no weapon that has been formed against any of the Pastors will not prosper and every tounge that rises up against them shall be condemed, haterd is so wrong GOD is LOVE as children of GOD we are to edifiy the body not try to tear it down, I love all the Pastors and the whole Body because iam his child, please consider your own actions in this situation, GOSSIP!! is devilish

Judy
Judy

It is NOT gossip when it is the TRUTH!

I attended CFTN, for several years. 

I observed and/or experienced many of the things that I mentioned. 

My CFTN friends also observed and/or experienced many of those same things.

Some of the things that I reported were revealed directly by Executive Pastor Bob Putnam, HIMSELF. 

Pastor Dan Telkamp was FIRED by Bob and Debbie Putnam, in a cruel way.

My Lord Jesus Christ said:

"And you shall know the TRUTH, and the TRUTH shall make you free."

-- John 8:32

A certain CFTN pastor has a reputation for being angry, critical, vindictive and bitter and also for mistreating people.  This is not gossip, nor is it it a secret.

I observed what some would call an "emasculating spirit/attitude" at CFTN.

15 “Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. 16 By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thorn-bushes, or figs from thistles? 17 Likewise, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them."-- Matthew 7:15-20 (NIV)

Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather EXPOSE THEM.-- Ephesians 5:11 (NIV)

grieved
grieved

Not sure where you came up with the notion that if it is supposedly true, then it doesn't qualify as gossip.  A gossip is one who spreads tales.  Take the blinders off and see what you are doing.

Lev 19:16Thou shalt not go 3212 up and down [as] a talebearer 7400 among thy people 5971: neither shalt thou stand 5975 against the blood1818 of thy neighbour 7453: I [am] the LORD 3068.Pro 11:13A talebearer 1980 7400 revealeth 1540 secrets 5475: but he that is of a faithful 539 spirit 7307 concealeth 3680 the matter 1697.Pro 18:8The words 1697 of a talebearer 5372 [are] as wounds 3859, and they go down 3381 into the innermost parts 2315 of the belly 990.Pro 20:19He that goeth about 1980 [as] a talebearer 7400 revealeth 1540secrets 5475: therefore meddle 6148 not with him that flattereth6601 with his lips 8193.Pro 26:20Where no 657 wood 6086 is, [there] the fire 784 goeth out 3518: so where [there is] no talebearer 5372, the strife 4066 ceaseth 8367.Pro 26:22The words 1697 of a talebearer 5372 [are] as wounds 3859, and they go down 3381 into the innermost parts 2315 of the belly 990.

Judy
Judy

Several of the CFTN staff are bitter and hateful persons, who use their power to take vengeance on anyone they dislike.  They are accountable to NO ONE.  The TRUTH will come out, even if it takes the secular media to reveal it.

iamwe fan
iamwe fan

The only thing your "exposing" is that you are a bitter and hateful person, and that you don't have the common sense to recognize that this is a COMPLETELY inappropriate place to be bring these things up. 

Judy
Judy

This is my opinion.

IAMWE Band Member Tim Maiden is the son of Church For the Nations (CFTN) Senior Pastor Michael Maiden.

Tim seems like a nice guy but it would be good if the Phoenix New Times would do a story about his father's church.

This church is commonly known as CFTN.

Senior Pastor Mike Maiden is the former pastor of Eagle's Nest church in Scottsdale, Arizona.

While he was the Eagle's Nest senior pastor, Mike Maiden encouraged his parishioners to invest in a Ponzi scheme. They lost a huge amount of money and were devastated.

(Mike Maiden says that he was conned by a con artist.)

A pamphlet written by Pastor Mike Maiden described the con man's "Vision Plan" for funding a new $2 million church building, as follows:

"For the past year I have prayerfully sought the Lord for the plan anddirection he would have us take in regards to the financing costs of theconstruction and improvements of the new building.… The plan anddirection God has given us is strategic, sound and safe!..."

With regard to Mike Maiden's current church, Church For The Nations ("CFTN"):

Senior Pastor Michael Maiden PUBLICLY REFUSES to pray for certain people, who come to him for prayer.  He usually does this in front of the entire church congregation.  Pastor Maiden seems to do this, on a regular basis.  I saw this for myself, on several occasions, and also was told about it from some friends.

Dr. Mike Maiden does this by leaving the particular people whom he does not want to pray for standing at the church altar, ignoring them and praying for everyone else, instead.  This is hurtful, embarrassing and humiliating.

Some of my friends knew that Pastor Maiden was displeased with them, for various reasons.  Nonetheless, they were shocked when Mike Maiden REFUSED to pray for them!

Mike Maiden brags about his expensive house and his expensive possessions.

He wants to be the Leader over 10,000 churches (not just 10,000 people).

CFTN Senior Co-Pastor Mary Maiden states that, "We are all just one big family," yet there is blatant favoritism toward Mike Maiden's children.

Pastor Maiden has sometimes referred to himself as a Prophet.  He has compared himself to at least one Biblical Prophet, in the past.  (I cannot remember which one.)

Dr. Maiden frequently prophesies over people but his prophecies do not always come true, by any means.

Mike Maiden's staff pastors say things like, "Dr. Maiden is a Prophet."

Mike Maiden sometimes tells people that they are healed.  I heard him tell a woman who was terminally ill, "You are a WALKING MIRACLE!"  Of course, she died, a short time later.

The CFTN Executive Pastors, Bob and Debbie Putnam, recently fired CFTN Children's Church Pastor Dan Telkamp (who was one of Mike Maiden's long-time, loyal friends, for many years).

Mrs. Telkamp was also fired.  The Telkamps were very beloved by the members of CFTN.

Pastor Dan Telkamp and his wife, who were the Heads of the CFTN Children's Church and Ministry, were not even allowed to say goodbye to the kids!

In the early-to-mid-2000s, the Telkamps founded this new church, CFTN, along with Mike and Mary Maiden.  They were absolutely shocked when Executive Pastors Bob and Debbie Putnam fired them.

You would think that Mike and Mary Maiden would stand up for their dear friends, the Telkamps.  However, that never happened.

The Putnams (whose son B.J. is married to Mike Maiden's daughter Melody) seem to RULE Church For The Nations.

Is Mike Maiden just a figurehead?

Bob Putnam said that the CFTN Church Board chose to give money to a Clothing Fund for Mike Maiden, which the Board created.  Bob Putnam said that HE (Bob) picks out ALL of Mike Maiden's clothing!  Bob Putnam said that Mike Maiden has no taste in clothing, which is why Bob "has" to dress Pastor Maiden.

Recently, while they were in Puerto Rico, CFTN Executive Pastors Bob and Debbie Putnam were robbed.

According to Bob Putnam, Pastor Debbie Putnam PUNCHED the robber and told him to "GO TO HELL"!

One CFTN member told me that Bob and Debbie Putnam have a list of people that they consider to be "persona non grata" (people who are not welcome at the church).

Another CFTN member told me that every time she went up to receive prayer (at the church altar) from Dr. Mike Maiden, Pastor Debbie Putnam would BLOCK her way!

Another CFTN member alleged that Bob Putnam told him -- when he asked to speak to Mike Maiden -- that "Nobody gets past me and my wife.  No one is allowed to speak to Dr. Maiden unless we give them permission."

Church For the Nations (CFTN) is bringing in MILLIONS of TAX-FREE dollars each year!

In my opinion, unless one enjoys blatant hypocrisy; spiritual abuse, emotional abuse; cliques; favoritism; retaliation; manipulation; control; false "prophecies" from Pastor Mike Maiden; required "Pastor worship;" required TOTAL loyalty to CFTN; egomaniacs; rudeness; neglect and cruelty, one should avoid CFTN (Church For The Nations)!

In recent years, the problems that I have mentioned regarding CFTN appear to have grown much worse.

CFTN has done some good things for the local community but it would be great if Phoenix New Times would investigate this church.

Would anyone say that this church is a cult?

Mike
Mike

Dear Judy...So this entire page and article in which we are reading is in regards to IAMWE. If you want to bring up other outside issues that tear down others you should not do it in here. You sound like a very bitter and scornful woman. If you are "true follower of God" and you care about what He has to say then you would not come on here and gossip and talk about other people. Forgive and move on, you are no better than the church (if what you are saying about them is true) for coming on here and slandering them. If you have a personal discrepancy bring it up in a confidential area or site. Call the reporter and do something, don't come on here and show how immature and petty you are.

grieved
grieved

Dear Judy, As you read the following, please take note of God's displeasure.  Miriam suffered as a direct result of criticizing God's servant.  Please remember, to every action, there is a consequence. Miriam and Aaron Are Jealous of Moses 1-3Although Moses was the most humble person in all the world, Miriam and Aaron started complaining, " Moses had no right to marry that woman from Ethiopia! [a] Who does he think he is? The LORD has spoken to us, not just to him." The LORD heard their complaint 4and told Moses, Aaron, and Miriam to come to the entrance of the sacred tent. 5There the LORD appeared in a cloud and told Aaron and Miriam to come closer. 6Then after commanding them to listen carefully, he said:   " I, the LORD, speak to prophets   in visions and dreams.    7But my servant Moses   is the leader of my people.    8He sees me face to face,   and everything I say to him   is perfectly clear.   You have no right to criticize   my servant Moses."    9The LORD became angry at Aaron and Miriam. And after the LORD left10and the cloud disappeared from over the sacred tent, Miriam's skin turned white with leprosy. 

Confused
Confused

dear grieved,

I was reading the article when I ran across your and judy's comments. While I can understand if Judy has some issues with her past church, am I to understand that you are implying that she has no right to critisize the church she witnessed bad things happen at? And that mearly bringing it to light is punishable by God? If that is the case, then I guess the no one needs to bring to light the atrosicty's done at ANY church and it should be swept under the "metaphorical" rug. Is everything ok then if it is done in the name of "God"?

Mandy and Trev
Mandy and Trev

Powerful music. Passion and inspiration. IAMWE we love you. Can't wait to see how far and how deep you take your music. 

Judy
Judy

Tim Maiden is the son of Church For the Nations (CFTN) Senior Pastor Michael Maiden.

Tim seems to be a great guy but it would be good if the Phoenix New Times would do a story about his father's church.

This church is commonly known as CFTN.

Senior Pastor Mike Maiden is the former pastor of Eagle's Nest in Scottsdale, Arizona.

While he was Eagle's Nest senior pastor, Mike Maiden (unwittingly) encouraged his parishioners to invest in a Ponzi scheme. They lost their money and were devastated.

(Mike Maiden was conned by a con artist.)

A pamphlet written by Pastor Mike Maiden described the con man's "Vision Plan" for funding a new $2 million church building, as follows:

"For the past year I have prayerfully sought the Lord for the plan and direction he would have us take in regards to the financing costs of the construction and improvements of the new building.… The plan and direction God has given us is strategic, sound and safe!..."

With regard to Mike Maiden's current church, Church For the Nations (CFTN):

Senior Pastor Michael Maiden PUBLICLY REFUSES to pray for certain people, who come to him (in front of the entire church congregation) for prayer. He seems to do this, on a regular basis. I saw this for myself and also was told about it, from some friends.

Several of my friends knew that Pastor Maiden was displeased with them, for various reasons; nonetheless, they were shocked when Mike Maiden REFUSED to pray for them!

Mike Maiden brags about his expensive home and his expensive watch.

The CFTN Executive Pastors, Bob and Debbie Putnam, fired Dan Telkamp, who was one of Mike Maiden's good friends, for many years. Mrs. Telkamp was also fired. They were very beloved by the members of CFTN.

Pastor Dan Telkamp and his wife, who were the Heads of the CFTN Children's Church and Ministry, were not even allowed to say goodbye to the kids!

The Putnams (whose son B.J. is married to Mike Maiden's daughter) seem to RULE Church For The Nations; Is Mike Maiden just a figurehead?

Bob Putnam said that the CFTN Church Board had to give money to a Clothing Fund for Mike Maiden. Bob Putnam said that HE (Bob) picks out ALL of Mike Maiden's clothing! Bob Putnam said that Mike Maiden has no taste in clothing, which is why Bob "has" to dress Pastor Maiden.

Recently, while they were in Puerto Rico, Bob and Debbie Putnam were robbed. According to Bob Putnam, Pastor Debbie Putnam punched the robber and told him to "Go to HELL"!

In my opinion, unless one enjoys cliques, favoritism, retaliation, manipulation, control, "prophecies" that often do not come true, required "Pastor worship," required total loyalty to CFTN only, egomaniacs, rudeness, neglect and cruelty, one should avoid CFTN (Church For The Nations)!

In recent years, the problems that I have mentioned within CFTN appear to have grown much worse.

CFTN has done some good things for the local community but it would be great if Phoenix New Times would investigate this church.

gupagup
gupagup

So if it's so how do we rid this church of the evil one? Pray Hope Love

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