Spin's Kings of Leon Feature Inserts an Error AND a [sic] into New Times Copy

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Maybe you read Spin magazine's October feature about how Kings of Leon remain defiantly popular despite the fact that everyone who knows anything about music thinks they suck?

Maybe you also recognized the first quote in the piece was from a post on Up On The Sun. The quote has since been fixed online, but, as printed, it read:

"Kings of Leon may now officially be the biggest rock band of -- or at least by -- the '00s. [They] did this in the Internet age, despite the fact that pretty much every music blogger I know actively despise [sic] them. Congratulations, Kings of Leon. You still suck, though." -- Phoenix New Times, March 2010
Those were my words.

Well, besides both the despise(s) error and the accompanying "[sic]." Spin seems to have added those things.

Now, this may not seem like a big deal to some folks -- and feel free to call me a little crybaby bitch in the comments section -- but it's annoying that Spin embarrassed this publication by inserting an error with the in-text correction. The magazine is refusing to run a correction acknowledging that fact, sadly.

Here's the deal: Putting a "[sic]" after something someone says or writes when there are not legal implications to their exact wording is generally douche-y. As the wikipedia article on sic says, the technique is, "used in humorous comments and for ridicule, typically by drawing attention to the original writer's mistakes." That's how they're generally used by music writers -- in my experience, at least. Otherwise, we just quietly clean up the minor error. I'm sure I've probably done this myself when I sought to illustrate how dumb a source was, so I can't complain too loudly.

Anyhoo, when I first saw this, I thought, "Damn, Spin caught some lax editing in New Times! Shit, that's embarrassing! I wish they would have just fixed it, but I guess I got what I deserve!"

Then I did a little investigation. As it turns out, Spin either inserted that error or didn't look at any version of the post more than a few minutes old. Maybe I did mis-type "despise" when the post first published -- I can't recall -- but we definitely didn't leave it up there very long. Maybe some news aggregator pulled that version but since I was told the article went through "fact checking" you'd think they would have caught this, right?

How do we know my version is right?

First, there's this screenshot of the sentence in our blogging software. I pulled this up on our copy editor's computer in front of several other New Times employees who can vouch for the fact that I could not have changed it without the publishing status reflecting that.

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Don't trust our software? Google my sentence. You'll find it was stolen re-purposed by a site called Gazette Direct, one of those generally annoying sites that grabs our stuff, puts it on its site without attribution and collects the hits in our stead.

As you can see, its version, posted on March 20, has my sentence correct. This sort of site generally doesn't correct minor spelling or grammar errors -- they just Control-C/control-V stuff.

Then, try Googling the Spin version of that sentence. No results, unless you put in the [sic] it inserted. That erroneous sentence has since been duplicated far and wide, much to my embarrassment, but always with Spin's "[sic]."

What does all this mean? Spin inserted the error it "fixed," basically. I've asked the author, Steve Kandell, for a correction and presented the evidence above. I was basically told that the magazine put the story through fact-checking before publishing it and doesn't think it made a mistake.

I'm not sure how Spin thinks this happened other than by its own hand, but it's not a big deal, I guess.

It is a little fishy that the article's thesis is that everyone who bashes this terrible band is wrong. That point is belabored throughout the piece as Kandell establishes people like me as straw men using our quotes, then refuting each anti-KOL argument in turn. When doing that, a little wink-nod grammar "fix" to our arguments certainly helps buttress the idea that we're all fools, while the great and wise Spin magazine "gets" Kings of Leon on a level we can't. But, having corresponded with Kandell, who seems like a friendly and generally fair-minded guy, I'm reasonably confident he wasn't looking to get an extra edge at our expense.

He just made a mistake.

About the quote and the band.
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14 comments
KDV
KDV

Lol. Paul McCartney loves the Kings. I suppose you know more about music than he does?

Your friend, Caleb
Your friend, Caleb

If Martin wants people to read and respond to his blogs, all he has to do is write about KOL. Somehow it brings out the best in some people and the worst in him.

Ejames
Ejames

Kings of leon suck and so do you Martin.

Froggermario
Froggermario

You're such an idiot. This is the kind of thing that you bitch about at the office, not write a whiny blog about. No one cares about YOU. Why don't you grow up?

Lillyjou
Lillyjou

You sound like a twat. And people that know things about music (aka listeners and non bigoted idiots such as yourself) love Kings. I hope you rot in hell.

Angelsun1000
Angelsun1000

As a rabid KOL fan, I looked forward to this morning's reviews of the Madison Square Garden show last night. The first one I found online was the New York Daily News and they called the lead guitarist CAMERON but his name is CALEB! No apologies yet for that and I don't care if my comment is (sic) or not. I know the Kings Of Leon are SICK aka awesome!

SteinLebo
SteinLebo

Oy vey, you're like my Jewish mother, alway kvetching about something or another!

Jmjbullock
Jmjbullock

Since you've become music director I think you've done a pretty good job of embarrassing the publication, yourself, and the city of Phoenix on your own without the help of Spin magazine.

Your friend, Caleb
Your friend, Caleb

Probably because they don't take this publication seriously, just like a lot of people. Yes, you are being a crybaby.

Dan Gibson
Dan Gibson

Paul McCartney also married that lady with one leg. We all make mistakes.

KOLfan
KOLfan

Actually CAMERON is Matthew's real first name, all the members of the band use their middle names. I would think a rabid fan (being one myself) would know that. By the way Caleb plays rhythm guitar.

Phoenix New Times
Phoenix New Times

"Music director?"

Were you under the impression this was a radio station?

Wayne Michael Reich
Wayne Michael Reich

It's an honest mistake Marty- you're obviously not impressing him as a music critic, so cut the kid some slack.

An idea!

Next time, why don't you write about our local music scene, instead?That IS your job, isn't it?

Respectfully,Wayne Michael Reich

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