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Vibe magazine doesn't know crap about Arizona hip-hop!

Thu Nov 15, 2007 at 12:55:35 PM

By Niki D'Andrea

Lists are fun to make, and even more fun to dispute. There’s always some glaring injustice to kvetch, some oversight that demands a reaming. For example, Rolling Stone’s list of the “500 Greatest Albums Ever Made” put four Beatles albums in the top 10, which makes sense, but I personally think ranking Sgt. Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band number one of all-time (ahead of The Beatles’ “White” and Rubber Soul albums) is inaccurate, unless we’re talking about the album covers and not the actual album content. Putting the Patti Smith Group’s Horses all the way down at #44 was another point of contention for me, as was ranking Stevie Wonder’s Innervisions at #23, while knocking his incomparable Songs in the Key of Life down to #56.

Music is, of course, a subjective thing, and everyone has his or her own opinions about what is “good.” But when the perceived goal of a list is to tell people what’s new and good, taste makers can miss the mark by miles.

On that tip, Vibe magazine recently named the “51 Best MySpace Rappers,” by state. I’m not sure how Vibe determined who made the list, but I beg to differ with their Arizona pick. The only artist from ‘Zona that passed muster with Vibe was a Phoenix rapper who goes by the handle MC Magic. Now, I’ll admit, I’d never heard of MC Magic until I saw this list. So I checked out the songs on his MySpace page, and they’re pretty solid -- mostly a mix of reggaeton and other Latin flavors, R&B, and low-key, seduce-you type rhymes (think Pitbull-meets-D’Angelo). But while MC Magic’s tracks are slick, I feel that Vibe totally overlooked at least a dozen of our best local hip-hop acts. Believe it or not, P-city is a hip-hop haven, and we’ve got an amazingly diverse array of artists here, any one of which could (and should) have made the Vibe list.

So…here is my list of the “Top 12 Arizona Hip-Hop Acts.” They are not listed in any sort of order, as I believe they are all equally worth your ear. Of course, even this list is going to omit some of our city’s most solid MCs -- feel free to give ‘em a shout-out in the comments, if you feel I’ve forgotten someone.

Cousins of the Wize:
www.myspace.com/cousinsofthewize
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This hip-hop collective has been around the Valley for ten years now, and has a reputation as one of the best live hip-hop acts in town. They’re a full band, complete with guitar, bass, drums, saxophone, keyboards, and two vocalists, and they do a phenomenal job of blending hip-hop with reggae, funk, psychedelia, and indie rock.

Drunken Immortals:
www.myspace.com/drunkenimmortals
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Photo by David Joseph Perez

Easily the Valley’s most popular hip-hop act, Drunken Immortals have recorded with the likes of AWOL ONE, Grayskull, and Abstract Rude, as well as making numerous appearances at The Blunt Club weekly at Hollywood Alley in Mesa. They’re completely D.I.Y., and members of the collective (most notably Brad B, Foundation, and Pickster One) have participated in numerous hot side projects over the year (one of which, The Insects, is listed below).

Cut Throat Logic:
www.myspace.com/cutthroatlogic
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A fiercely localized group (check out their song, “Phire City,” which blasts Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio and praises the campus hotties at ASU), CTL has been kicking around the PHX since before the New Millenium. In 2000, one of the CTL crew, Kamau, shot and killed himself at the age of 19. Soulfly front man Max Cavalera, who had recently lost his stepson and best friend, got a hold of CTL’s demo and the two co-wrote a song called “In Memory Of…” for Soulfly’s Primitive album, as a tribute for the loved ones both musical artists had lost.

Pokafase:
www.myspace.com/pokafase
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Pokafase’s Mastermind album would be the best hip-hop disc to ever come out of Phoenix -- had it ever come out. Poka had a deal with ARTISTDirect. He made this phenomenal album that blended wicked hip-hop spits with funk, crunk, and soul (and included guest appearances by Warren G. and Kokane from the Doggystyle All-Stars). Even Eminem was singing Pokafase’s praises. Then, Poka got screwed by ARTISTDirect (the label actually went under, but retained the rights to the album). So, independent again, Pokafase is working on a new record, scheduled to hit stores later this year.

The Premiere:
www.myspace.com/thepremieremusic
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This duo’s debut album, London Paris New York, is an aboslutely brilliant mashup of hip-hop, rock, and electro. Admitted perfectionists, The Premiere spent seven years putting this gem together, and it paid off in the form of ridiculously hot hooks and catchy potential singles. Take one listen to “Patrick Swayze,” and it’ll be stuck in your head all day.

Survivalist:
http://www.slaveentertainment.com/about-page.htm
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The five MCs that comprise Survivalist all bring different things to the table, whether the group’s laying down rhymes over a ‘70s soul beat, or pumping up the crunk. They’ve been around since 1999, but I haven’t heard any news on the group since the 2004 release Retribution. That album came on the heels of a Billboard Top 10 Hot Rap Singles chart appearance for the song “Bounce.” They even once got a write-up in Vibe. Perhaps Vibe excluded them from the “51 Best MySpace Rappers” list because they don’t seem to have a MySpace page. Survivalist, if you’re out there, holla!

Tha Formula:
www.myspace.com/thaformula
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This Phoenix duo won the Phoenix New Times “Summer of Sound” hip-hop category, which was determined by audience voting at a live show. They strive to merge “Top 40” hip-hop with “alternative music.”

Mista Maja:
http://www.myspace.com/gaijinmaja
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Known as being one of the very few Black rappers to venture into the “anime rap” genre, Mista Maja raps about such geek chic topics as video games, Transformers, and of course, Japanese anime. He’s performed at anime conventions all over the country, and has some pretty fly vids up on YouTube.

Mello Mello:
http://www.myspace.com/mellomlo
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More on the soulful R&B tip than the urban hip-hop tip, Mello Mello makes smooth soul songs with urban beats, designed to make the ladies swoon and give the fellas more seductive tracks for their mix tapes. The duo’s latest album, An Abstract Love Story, is available now from several sources, including CDBaby.

Antedote:
www.myspace.com/antedote
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Like The Roots, Antedote creates organic hip-hop with live instrumentation, incorporating a rich, jazzy sound into their socially conscious hip-hop songs. They were voted “Best Local Band” on the “Best of Phoenix” ballot by Phoenix New Times readers this year, and have shared the stage with such luminaries as Pigeon John, Common, Busdriver, Buck 65, and DJ Z-Trip.

The Insects:
www.myspace.com/theinsects1
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Photo by David Perez

Spearheaded by Brad B and Foundation of Drunken Immortals, The Insects provide the same eclectic array of sounds as D.I., but with minimal instrumentation (usually just vocals and turntable), and for free. You can download The Insects’ entire first album, at no charge, from their MySpace page.

Fetti Profoun:
www.myspace.com/fettiprofoun
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I’ve complained in print about Fetti’s handle before, but his raps are tight enough that I can forgive what I think is a lame stage name. His debut album, Valley Fever, bounces with springy beats, samples, and 12-bar spits that rankle everything from death (“Death’s Creepin”) to Sheriff Arpaio’s infamous pink-underwear jail (“Tent City”).


Eight other great local hip-hop artists not discussed in this list (and also overlooked by Vibe):

Wildlife Refuge Crew
Intrinzik
Emerg McVay (Did homeboy really move to Chicago?)
Cross Platform
The Smob
Vocab Malone
ILL AL the Anglo Saxon
DJ Kane

Category: Up On Sun

43 Comments:

ALONSO says:

I'd like to congratulate MC MAGIC for making the list. Local independent artists can learn a lot from MC MAGIC.

Alonso.

mattx says:

This needed to be done. Thanks nikki from Antedote. Oh, and The Inescts rule all of you big time.

Allan says:

MC Magic is part of the NB Ridaz crew. can't beleive you never heard of him before.

crispy says:

no feeblez? damn..

dickheadmagoo says:

novelty is the man in phoenix

katie sue says:

nice list, shows off the mad talent AZ has when it comes to hip-hop. Gotta say Antedote & Drunken Immortals a must have though :)

Vessel says:

Congrats Vocab more people should Check out your tunes!Nikki D'Andrea definatley Knows Hot music when she hears it!

~Wisdom says:

A very well put together list, mad props to all of the artists mentioned, you did leave out Novelty though and Rexx "The Street Politician" and I definately do agree with how so much in Az gets overlooked. I notice one thing, however, there are also females in Az Hip Hop and it's about to go down with MPRESS on the forefront to represent. Stay tuned for the single to be released in '08 "Where Did Hip Hop Go?"

Your forgot Rexxx-Tha Street Politician
He's one of the hottest in the game... his URL is:
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=4967105
I think you should revise your list... Most on this list have never even been heard of!

T-dogg says:

dont forget about Point9, he's quietly killen deez fools! trust me, in 3years or less he'll be the next big thing!

Sweet-thang69 says:

yea, point nine is da shit...here's his site

myspace.com/pointnine

StreetSmart says:

umm...Atllas?

Jay100 says:

FETTI!!!!!!! But wheres atlas???

Nathan says:

THE PREMIERE!!!

Nathan says:

THE PREMIERE!!!

Tree85250 says:

Fetti is definately the sickest rapper in AZ! Hands Down "Valley Fever" was hotter then any of these other guys albums. But gotta give love to Antedote fasho

funkwell says:

conspicuous by his absence... GRIME

catch him live:
with Dead Prez Nov 30
with KRS1 Dec 6

http://www.myspace.com/grimemusic

Tragic says:

Yo mad respect to The Smob for making the list, there one of the most diverse and real groups out of AZ.

GDep357 says:

Fetti Profoun is hot...Im glad u showed him sum love he is under rated. I keep Valley Fever in the deck!
Gdeezy

mama juju says:

Mad love to The Smob for making the list I caught them down at a show with Zion I and then ran back in to them at 1st Friday slanging t-shirts and now have seen them eversince. Keep pushing that product and represent AZ to the fullest

Bazeline Killa says:

GREAT LIST. GOTTA HAVE IMMORTALS AND CTL IN THERE. BUT YOU MISSED APOLLO.

KreechR says:

To all that know The Smob we will be down at 1st Friday on Dec 7th around 3rd St and Roosevelt doing a charity event for Christmas Angels. We will be having a night of blues & hip hop with all donations going to the families. Stop by and check it out to help support our community and listen to some real conscious hip hop.

Jennifer Diaz says:

I agree with Bazeline on Apollo. Ironically, he was featured in VIBE along with Poka 2 years ago and was also on that MTV show. I first saw him win the Source battle at America West.
Whiteboy can spit

Anonymous says:

This is exactly what New Times is known for. Underground rappers that perform with white rock bands.

You didnt mention Willy northpole who signed to Ludacris. Hot Rod who signed to G-Unit. Woodpile who signed to C-Bos label. Atlas who signed to Rawkus.
You didnt mention Iroc who owns 5th coast record. You didnt mention Apollo who did his thing the past couple of years. You didnt mention Grime. Novelty. etc.

VIBE knows more about hiphop than some chic from New Times

YA'LL DIDNT EVEN MENTION SOL CAMP?? THE LATINO SUPREME TEAM.. WOW.

FORMULA AND CTL ARE DOPE THO!

Ivory says:

WOW....this list is missing AZ's top artists. Being best in AZ- this list is a fraud. This is the writes picks...who has never even heard of Mc Magic who has dominated the AZ rap scene for over a decade!This is such a biased non researched list.New times should be ashamed to let this crap go to print! It is sad that no effort was put into this In no particular order
1.Woodpile 67000 plus records sold, signed to west coast mafia...nuff said
2. Willy Northpole- Signed to DTP touring the world
3. Juice Signed to Black Wall Street, Touring the world
4.Hot Rod signed to g unit touring the world
5.Grime has huge pull and makes major moves from coast to coast, brings many large acts to phoenix
6. Atllas has done major work from MTV to being signed to Rawkus, Mixtapes with kay Slay
7. Span Phly signed to Rawkus tour the country

Tyrone S says:

How are Apollo and Atllas not on this list when they were both on mtv? How is woodpile and willy northpole not on this slit? Has New Times ever even featured either of them?

never even heard of any of these artists

Ellison says:

the hip-hop coming out of az (note it's az and not just phx) is about 4,000x better now than it was in the late 90's. i like a lot of the artists/groups mentioned on the page but there were several left off...so i thought i'd throw some names out there for everyone else...and these are just the artists that i know and or have heard of:

random
novelty
smooth
n.o.s.e.
emerg mcvay (didn't move back to chicago but he is from there)
kk kavy
monk mcnasty

i have seen and or heard all of these artists either in person or on an album and i can honestly say that they're all pretty talented. the ones that aren't from az, they still rep it to the fullest, if you haven't heard then you need to go check 'em out

-ell-

jj says:

how come ocean was not mentioned?

AzLoVe says:

Just wanted to give some love to some new guys in the game:

dEwBi- they've been hustlin all year to make things happen and so far have exceeded expectations. You can catch them live almost every other week playing at venues all around AZ...Check them out live playing w/ KRS-ONE, Cut Throat Logic, and Grime December 6, 2007 @ The Old Brickhouse

www.myspace.com/dewbiaz



DRock says:

ya, i was actually at the premiere's album release show a little bit ago, and three of these artists on the list performed that night.. (emerg, the premiere, and fetti profoun), all of which put on a kick ass set. I picked up a copy of tje premiere (whose new kind of sound is nothing but ice cold) and fetti's new hot disc, and my crew has been bumping their shit over the last month or so! mad props to these cats for releasing some real hot shit! emerg is supposed to be coming out with a new solo album real soon as well... good list, ms new times lady!
check em out yall!

-DRock

Anonymous says:

This is the real list!!
1. Atlas
2. Roca Dolla
3. Juice
4. Fetti Profoun
5. Antedote
6. MC Magic
7. Willy Northpole
8. Hot Rod
9. Pokafase
10. Cut Throat Logic
11. Drunken Immortals
12. Novelty
In this order these are the best rappers in Phoenix hands Down!!!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous says:

Much love to Mello Mello for sticking to their script! These guys are positive, and actually make good music!

Hotchman says:

The acts on the list are great but I would include Grime on there as well.
Someone mentioned that this is what the New Times writes about...To the extent that some of these acts have white frontment. WHO CARES??? Black, White, Asian, Hispanic if it is good shit it shouldn't matter. As for the ones that are missing, the problem is that the Arizona Hip-Hop scene is so underground that many people are only exposed to those that play big enough shows to get the coverage. I know that with all the negatives that have happened at some local shows lately (see what happened at the Clubhouse) it is hard to get gigs but that is the fault of the scene itself.
Don't blame the writer for picking the best of her scope of knowledge, blame yourselves for creating an environment that prevents the word from getting out.

Thurston says:

Is it not Odd that there are so many acts that have made this list, and others that haven't, that you just have NEVER heard of. Its a big place out here, but the scene need not be so disjointed. Its great to do your own thing, and grow even more awesome crews for AZ, but help your fellow artists out, and get to know each other... Rappity Rap Rap...

-thurston

jimmy wierd says:

and for some reason everyone always forgets the best emcees phoenix has to offer... THE SOCIETY OF INVISIBLES... signed to babygrande, touring,etc.etc.

spaceship thief. says:

Clint Malik...

seeing clearly says:

Impossible to give AZ better music when not given a chance, could be why this list is flooded with the SAME OLD SAME OLD.


Give the FRESH music a CHANCE to BREATH AZ.

Anonymous says:

Did you see the video yet? 1 of these groups mentioned has a video worth watching. We need to stop hating and appreciate those talented enough to actual make a career from their music. Can you guess who is Grown & Sexy on the list???

Anonymous says:

I kno im late but im still gonna shot out wat i think...first of all everyone needs to stop hating!!! That is the reason why az hip hop isnt on the map! If we all just gave respect to those mentioned and listed the artists that we thought should have made it then it would be better for the whole state of AZ. All these artists are actually doin it and some who werent mentioned are too. AZ HIP HOP SHOULD STICK TOGETHER INSTEAD OF HATING. Mad luv to all that were mentioned in the top and bottom.
J Rhyme
And by the way Fetti Profoun is nice...I saw him at Juggheads...respect

Anonymous says:

I kno im late but im still gonna shot out wat i think...first of all everyone needs to stop hating!!! That is the reason why az hip hop isnt on the map! If we all just gave respect to those mentioned and listed the artists that we thought should have made it then it would be better for the whole state of AZ. All these artists are actually doin it and some who werent mentioned are too. AZ HIP HOP SHOULD STICK TOGETHER INSTEAD OF HATING. Mad luv to all that were mentioned in the top and bottom.
J Rhyme
And by the way Fetti Profoun is nice...I saw him at Juggheads...respect

Anonymous says:

I kno im late but im still gonna shot out wat i think...first of all everyone needs to stop hating!!! That is the reason why az hip hop isnt on the map! If we all just gave respect to those mentioned and listed the artists that we thought should have made it then it would be better for the whole state of AZ. All these artists are actually doin it and some who werent mentioned are too. AZ HIP HOP SHOULD STICK TOGETHER INSTEAD OF HATING. Mad luv to all that were mentioned in the top and bottom.
J Rhyme
And by the way Fetti Profoun is nice...I saw him at Juggheads...respect

I think you did fine overall.

Everyone will feel slighted in some way by any 'list'.

I was shocked to be included, even as an afterthought of sorts. I know I am not #1 sickest MC. Just try to stay consistent and make creative art that reps God's Truth.

Much Love to AZ and please everyone - make music that benefits humanity and not just yourself.

peace
vm

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