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Fame, Shmame: Overlooked AZ Hall of Fame Nominees

Sat Sep 15, 2007 at 05:25:41 PM

by Matt Neff

Halls of fame are all well and good, but face it: they never ever get it right. There’s always about twelve dozen perfectly great artists that get completely overlooked, or worse, ignored in favor of total mediocrity, and who gets to argue about it? No one, because halls of fame are HALLS OF FAME. Immortal—unassailable—in the postmodern deterioration of all that is good, holy, reliable, and worth clinging to for dear life, halls of fame bludgeon the gullible masses into comfortably seeing The Canon, and/or give something for tourists to do when they go to Cleveland. And wouldn’t we be better off just admitting that Cleveland can’t be gussied up?

“Hall of Fame” conceptual problems notwithstanding, their choices usually suck anyway. As a certain local music snob with ears full of sarcastic wax (and a close friend) remarked to me the other day, "Hall of Fame? More like Hall of Shame!" I laughed at his brazen wit and we both went out for chianti and pizza. Actually what he said right before that was: it’s not that Alice Cooper, Stevie Nicks and Glen Campbell are simply old, it’s that they’re old, irrelevant, and BORING. They haven’t made any interesting music since 1976, and even then just barely. Sure they’re famous; they’re also limp, money-ridden geezers who couldn’t tear the roof off a Play-Skool pizza parlour. They support the notion that every twenty years all the popular music celebrities on the planet should be loaded onto a rocket piloted into the sun to make room for all the young hellions who are still artistically relevant, in their prime and deserving of fame and fortune.

So, regarding every Hall of Fame that deigns to plague the surface of our fair planet: tear the mothers DOWN! To further support this point, here are some long dead but real cool Arizonan underground acts of a punk-rock variety that I sadly suspect will never make it into our new hall of fame.

The Consumers

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One of Arizona’s earliest punk bands (1977), they were roughed up regularly by all the intolerant hillbillies and hicks who proliferated through late seventies Arizona (quite possibly the very same hicks and hillbillies who attended Fleetwood Mac and Glen Campbell shows). They hit the road to L.A. not long after and called it quits in 1978. Their one and only record is still available from In the Red. They sound a little generic, but, eh, they're still better than the Gin Blossoms. "She really puts out! She really puts out!"

The Brainz

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The initial incarnation of Mighty Sphincter: fairly decent buzzsaw punk with arty inclinations. Cris Kirkwood supposedly wrung his hands with delight when saw them. Here’s the A-side from their one and only 45, which has all but gone the way of the dodo.

Mighty Sphincter

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A death rock hardcore band that follows in Mr. Cooper’s footsteps with doom ‘n’ gloom, makeup and theatrics, and copious knowledge of the Algonquin Indians. Most of their records are out of print but I found a few on used music sites. This is from 1984’s This is Phoenix, Not the Circle Jerks comp LP, which also featured Sun City Girls, JFA, Soylent Greene, Zany Guys, and Conflict (also hard to find).

The Feederz

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Fast, furious, outraged, challenging and completely tasteless: great Situationist-inspired hardcore from a bunch of Southwestern malcontents with axes to grind. I first heard their “Jesus Entering From the Rear” on the Alternative Tentacles Let Them Eat Jellybeans LP and I’ve loved them ever since. This is from their 1984 album “Ever Feel Like Killing Your Boss?” which is available from Broken Rekids and which was originally released with a sandpaper cover to better destroy the records it was placed beside.

The Rotters

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These guys aren’t from Arizona (L.A., rather), but they did write this beautifully offensive gem which was banned from KROQ in L.A. and almost had them sued by Ms. Nicks’ legal team. Consequently they deserve all the recognition they can get. Lots of great information at Break my Face and records available from the Bacchus Archives.

Category: Up On Sun

10 Comments:

Don't forget the Red Squares who recorded the classic 1981 Modern Roll single:

http://www.kbdrecords.com/2006/10/09/red-squares-modern-roll-7/

One of my favorite punk singles ever!

Vavinco says:

Great stuff however I think that the "Sun City Girls" deserve a place here as well as way too many others. Tucson? Come on! Way too many to mention.
Al and all a great list as well as some new ones to search out.

Vavinco, "The Soul of Buenos Aries".

Want to know about Arizona's ties to punk? Ever heard of "White Punks on Dope"? The TUBES (inductees this year who are appearing for the FIRST time only in 20 years with ALL the original members, INCLUDING BILL SPOONER!!) got their start here in the Valley. If you want to know anything about the genesis of bands like those you've named in your piece, you've got to get to know the TUBES!

The template for many of the most interesting bands today was drawn from groups like the TUBES. Much of the incredible new music that is made today, including some of what you've named, has its roots in Arizona. Did you do much research on AMEHOF before you wrote your blog? If you did, you must have done the Cliff's Note's variety, so let me fill you in a little. Think we're overlooking someone due for recognition? We're a mouse click away.

Ever heard of Rockabilly?! Sanford Clark?? He'll be inducted this year because he is our Rockabilly legend. Rockabilly roots exist in lots of today's music, and Clark recorded his groundbreaking hit record "The Fool" right here in Phoenix at Audio Recorders, a studio that had a connection to the "Wall of Sound" Phil Spector is famously known for creating.

The Smithsonian Institution's Music Curator recently contacted The Az Music and Entertainment Hall of Fame to get information from our music archivist about legendary American musicians and music figures with ties to Arizona who were inducted at our last ceremony. And our mission does not exclude bands like those you've mentioned. And it doesn't restrict itself to music.

Do you dare to give yourself a mind expanding and entertaining one of a kind experience next Sunday at our show? Remember that the music being made TODAY is tomorrow's music history. You might find you shouldn't be so quick to judge someone's music based on when it was making its biggest news.
Mariah Fleming
Az Music and Entertainment Hall of Fame
www.azmusichalloffame.org

geezelflinker says:

Let's see, tha acts you name as worthy of inclusion into some new Hall of Fame are old (1977 through the early 1980's), no longer putting out music (irrelevant) and therefore BORING. Sounds a lot like the critique you laid on Glen Campbell, Stevie Nicks and Alice Cooper.
The acts you name are neither famous nor are they money laden geezers, but they're certainly limp (inactive).
"Cool" is certainly one criteria for inclusion into a Hall of Fame, but a serious track record of quality output is certainly needed. That's where your acts come up short, way short.
Remember, one man's "cool" is another man's "lame".

Liz Boyle says:


Matt Neff calling Stevie Nicks and Alice Cooper "old and irrelevant" calls to mind the time when, as front-man for Generation X, Billy Idol trashed The Who, as "old and irrelevant".

The front cover of the compilation "THIS IS PHOENIX NOT THE CIRCLE JERKS" features a picture of an old, downtown Phoenix boxing arena called Madison Square Garden, or Mad Gardens, to those of us that were active on the original Phoenix punk scene. Even those of us who were underage at the time, are pushing 50, now.

The original punks that were there, are geezers now, too, I suppose, so why stop at Stevie and Alice? Grant and The Geezers are hooked up to oxygen tanks, Killer Pussy is in need of an Aussie Makeover and my friend Bill Bored is on the AARP mailing list.

If you were among the 150 true, original Phoenix Punks who crammed in to see JFA open for Black Flag at Tempe's Knights of Pythius Hall, you're a few years away from a senior discount.

Ageism is foolish. I'm damn glad to have made the transition from mosh pit to middle age. I'll never forget my friends and contemporaries on the fledgling Phoenix Punk Rock Music Scene, circa late 70's-early 80's.

The Arizona Music and Entertainment Hall of Fame is doing a great job recognizing Phoenix creative pioneers of all genres.

Hang tight. The punks are coming.

Liz Boyle
Board of Directors
The Arizona Music and Entertainment Hall of Fame


ninjvidwrx says:

Think you're missing the point here geezel.

Current "relevance" (ie. putting out music) doesn't mean irelevant.

There are interesting common threads with each Inductee (work ethic, passion, etc.) that caused them to rise above mediocrity or blaze new ground for future artists to build on or innovate from.

There's more to the story unless you're content on just reading "Once Upon a Time" and "The End" and then rip out all the pages in between.

So geezelflinker , that's "cool" you feel that way.... or maybe that's "lame" ....guess all depends on one's view.

LAMusing says:

The event was a few days ago, but It could not have been the original Tubes "appearing for the FIRST time only in 20 years with ALL the original members" since keyboardist Vince Welnick committed suicide last year.

LAMusing says:

Bothered me that the Music Hall of Fame rep said the Tubes would be "appearing for the FIRST time only in 20 years with ALL the original members, INCLUDING BILL SPOONER!"
Uh, ALL the original members can not be appearing since original keyboardist Vince Welnick committed suicide over a year ago. It's fine to say all the surviving members would be appearing, but this ommission is strange coming from an organization that should know a lil' something about the groups they are inducting. Vince was not only a founding member (even before fee was the lead singer), he stayed with the group till they disbanded, later joining The Grateful Dead.

Hotchman says:

The AZ Music Hall of Fame is an amazing thing and they have done a great job picking honorees. Of course, some bands didn't get in this year, some bands didn't get in last year! This isn't going away, it will be around for awhile. I remember when Walt and Hans were talking about this thing at Beeloe's and one of them brought up this very idea of "exclusion" and the other said that the Hall of Fame would be around long enough to recognize every one that should be.

Stevie Nicks and Alice Cooper SHOULD BE in the Hall of Fame! Dear god just cause they aren't punk doesn't mean that they are not impactful to music today.

As for the punk bands you talked about while I have never heard of them I am sure they spawned this band or that. Give it time, if they impacted Arizona Music I am sure somebody will nominate them.

Finally, quit arguing semantics! Vince died and it sucks but you are arguing over having the surviving members or just members. Come on, just be happy the Tubes played for God's sake! Or are you one of those people that ascribes to idea that everybody but Jerry on a stage isn't really the Dead? Or Pink Floyd at Live 8 wasn't really Pink Floyd cause Sid wasn't dead.

Get past it.

Peace
Your Friendly Neighborhood Hotchman
Co-Founder of the old KnotRadio.org

Sonic Mike says:

Well, I'm sure we will never get into the "AZ Hall of Fame" or any other; it wasn't the point then, and it isn't now. I am just happy the band had such international connections that RAVE UP in Italy put out an actual vinyl LP of rare studio and live cuts. Offers for reunions shows continue to come, but all the above aside, the fact we were in Phoenix playing PUNK and being appreciated was the best thing ever for us...especially when a fan from Germany writes me and sez "I play Modern Roll at least 5 times a day, and it shall be played at my funeral". Can't top that.

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