Sam Fox Adding Seafood Concept With a "Brooklyn-Like Vibe" to Second Arizona Culinary Dropout Location

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This building will be part of the new Fox dining hub in CenPho.
In January, I reported that Fox Restaurant Concepts had plans to open a second Arizona location of its trendy Scottsdale gastropub, Culinary Dropout, in Central Phoenix (another location in Las Vegas was announced earlier this month.) Located at 5632 North Seventh Street (between Camelback and Bethany Home Roads), the restaurant will take over the space of a former auto and motorcycle dealership.

But, according to a recent press release from Fox Restaurant Concepts, the space, with a planned opening date of late fall, will house more than just a Culinary Dropout. In fact, it's being referred to as an "indoor/outdoor urban dining and lounging hub."

Anchored by Culinary Dropout, the location will share an outdoor recreation area and beer garden with a new, soon-to-be-named fish house and oyster bar concept. In addition, the new development will include a local coffee shop and two retail spaces not owned by Fox Restaurant Concepts.

"We were drawn to working on this project because of our ability to use as much of the current structures and create a park-like space in the middle of a very urban setting," says Fox Restaurant Concepts founder and CEO Sam Fox.

FRC says its new seafood concept will have a "Brooklyn-like vibe and be reminiscent of an old urban seafood shack." The menu will serve up raw-bar offerings as well as chowders, fish and chips, and po-boys along with white wines and beers.

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Kevin Oatmeal
Kevin Oatmeal

Brooklyn like vibe??? what the hell is that supposed to mean? Are the owners actually from Brooklyn NY? Or just redneck's who know nothing about Brooklyn or New York for that matter but tell people that it's New York style because Arizonans' don't know any better to make them eat at their establishment.

FC
FC

Regardless of location, it's all about your purveyors.  And Fox chooses to use purveyors that get them mediocre fish at a price point that fits the concept.  Pretty simple really.

Lebonbon
Lebonbon

Despite the rediculous comments here that a primarily off the subject, a number of us in the neighborhood are excited about the news. Fox restaurants have always impressed me. Welcome!

Kenny Powers
Kenny Powers

Looks cool, but anyone who is an East Coaster will tell you that people from Brooklyn would not tolerate the bullshit that goes down here. If it were a true Brooklyn-like venue the staff would be cursing at patrons, which would be sweet.

Maxstar
Maxstar

actually the majority of seafood consumed in the USA is from "farms" the fresh stuff is either shipped out of country or sold to a very select (those who can pay high prices) restaurants... even in LA!

Snarky McSnarkerson
Snarky McSnarkerson

Funny. I find that the "-like" suffix comes in quite handy when describing experiences at FRC restaurants, given that nearly everything from the wallpaper to the menu items is a simulacrum of the genuine article, which Sam and/or his minions once saw in someone else's restaurant.

"Well, that was certainly pizza-like."

Old Pard
Old Pard

Will their also be loud obnoxious Brooklyn accents and personality's here to?

Jolly Jackson
Jolly Jackson

 No there will be boring lame fake pseudo brooklyn people here. after all its Arizona not New York Shitty.

Keep it Real
Keep it Real

 My lady pal Flavia Arena or {Fluffy} as we call her is the most Brooklyn Broad on this Earth. look her up on facebook. she is a real true Brooklyn Bad Ass Italian Biker Broad. she takes shit from no man or women. And she is a good Fuck to.

guest
guest

I stay away from seafood in the middle of the desert. I make the quick trip to los angeles 8 - 10 times a year, so I manage to get enough of the real thing.

Stay boorish, my friend
Stay boorish, my friend

  You must be "The Most Interesting Man in the World." I bet Angelino fish just jump into your mouth to have the privilege of being eaten by you

Old Pard
Old Pard

 Eating a female pussy is another great way to get local seafood.

vicelord
vicelord

as opposed to a male one?

Dominic Armato
Dominic Armato

I know!  It's a good thing all of those SoCal oyster farms and dayboats bringing live shrimp and fresh tuna into the port of Long Beach ensure that L.A. restaurants don't have to have their seafood shipped in from somewhere else like we do here, huh?

guest
guest

you are very wrong. exceedingly fresh seafood is available without a drive from long beach. I used to go to a place in koreatown where the owners would go spearfishing in the morning and bring whole fish into their restaurant by noon. Independent diver boats are working the coast north of malibu on a daily basis bringing up scallops, clams, mussels, urchins... any attempt to compare phoenix to la with regard to seafood (or anything else) is going to fail miserably and only provide the basis for a good laugh, but go ahead, I'm mostly in this whole thing for the lulz.

Dominic Armato
Dominic Armato

Let me see if I can simplify this.  Given that when fish leaves a merchant in Los Angeles,in the morning, the product that walks across the street is served during the same dinner service as the one that goes on a truck for Phoenix, I can think of only three reasons why somebody would eat seafood in L.A. but not in Phoenix:

1) He refuses to eat seafood unless it just hit the shore within the past couple of hours -- even the same day isn't adequate.

2) He can't be bothered to find the good stuff in Phoenix (which is, no argument, a steeper hill to climb, but that doesn't mean it isn't available).

3) He just likes pissing on Phoenix because it makes him feel better about himself.

Is there one I'm missing?

Dominic Armato
Dominic Armato

First off, if you're going to casually sling civic snobbery, you might want to try it on somebody who's lived here for more than a couple of years.  Doesn't make it any less of a dick move, but at least you'd be hitting the target.

In any case, you've sidestepped both questions.

Regarding the limited amount of dayboat seafood in Los Angeles, great!  What restaurants do you visit to get it?

When you go to a great restaurant in Los Angeles, do you first confirm that the seafood came off a local dayboat?  Or do you just assume it's fresher because you're a couple hours closer to the coast?

One more bonus: Do you not eat seafood that wasn't locally fished?

guest
guest

well, for you, try the redondo beach pier. it's casual and touristy which will appeal to arizoniacs who don't own a necktie, and you can literally watch the seafood come off of boats. ( I realize that redondo is not the city of los angeles, but it's more or less a suburb). the port of los angeles is really close to LA proper. you seem to be fixated on trucking seafood, but unless you're eating at a restaurant located on a fishing vessel at sea, there will be some transportation involved, but it's mere minutes away. I don't blame you for making do with what you have, everybody does that to one extent or another, but you should realize that's what you're doing.

Dominic Armato
Dominic Armato

Great!  Let's hear about them!  What restaurants are you going to in Los Angeles where you're getting seafood that hasn't at least traveled a few hours by truck?  Or has morning spearfishing become de rigeur in Los Angeles restaurants? When you go to Los Angeles, do you avoid seafood when you can't confirm that it was caught just off the SoCal beach a few hours ago?

I'm not comparing the seafood to be found in Phoenix to that in Los Angeles on the whole.  That would, indeed, be laughable.  But it has everything to do with distribution and very little to do with geographical location. What I'm saying is that almost without exception, the seafood you get in great restaurants in Los Angeles has been flown or trucked in same as here.  And the same applies almost everywhere. Le Bernardin isn't pulling their uni and kampachi out of the Hudson, but they seem to get some pretty good quality fish. L2O in Chicago managed to pull down three Michelin stars, and they're a helluva lot further away from the nearest ocean than we are.

The point is that this persistent meme that you can't get good seafood in the desert, while convenient for a tired witticism (no water... har har), is a stupid, stupid myth with no basis in reality.  Most places don't want to shell out to have it shipped in (because, sadly, most people don't want to pay for it). But that doesn't mean it isn't available.  Paris is a two hour drive from the nearest coastline.  We're four.  Is that the difference between being able to get fresh seafood and not being able to get it, or would you stay away from seafood in Paris, too?

Guest
Guest

The seafood also makes the quick trip to Phoenix in a refrigerated truck, so I manage to eat enough of it here without having to go to a hellhole like LA.
 Now isn't 100 years ago. Looking forward to this restaurant very much.

guest
guest

you're right in that LA is a hellhole, and that's why I fit right in.

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