New Coffee Shop Opening Next to Over Easy in Arcadia: Is This a Good Idea? Discuss.

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​Look, I'm no expert when it comes to real estate for restaurants (my idea for a neighborhood bar next to a Mormon temple failed miserably), but when I walked out of Over Easy in Arcadia a few days ago and walked past a "coming soon" new coffee shop just one space away, I had to take pause.

A coffee house next to a breakfast joint -- is this a good idea? Given the number of restaurant closings these days, maybe I'm just hyper-sensitive.

Get the details after the jump and lemme know what you think.

The new java joint is called the Black Cat Coffee House. A construction worker told me it's the owner's first venture and is set to open in August. Not surprisingly, Black Cat will offer espresso-based drinks, specialty coffees, and pastries.

Judging by my quick peek inside, the place looks pretty cozy already.

What say you, Java Fiends? Is Black Cat, a specialty coffee and pastry shop that's one door away from Over Easy, a breakfast joint that sells regular coffee (also an ice-brewed coffee with cinnamon and cardamom) and breakfast sandwiches different enough or are the two too close for comfort?

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How to open a cafe
How to open a cafe

Opening a cafe is a great idea, especially if you are going to place it in a place where there are  possible clients that could become your constant patron.

starting a cafe
starting a cafe

Diffidently yes, such great idea .  Your on your right track while building a cafe that many people will go to this place.

Don Hall
Don Hall

Hi. I’m Don and, along with my wife Tima, we are opening the Black Cat Coffee House. We will do our best to provide quality service and products for those in and around the Arcadia area and, of course, for all those who enter our establishment. It is our plan to open around the beginning of September. So, hopefully you will come in and visit us.

davelog
davelog

Could be worse - I once worked for a guy whose next enterprise was opening a coffee shop across Mill from the Plantation. That didn't last long.

Schadenfriend
Schadenfriend

As an Arcadia neighborhood denizen, I think it's a good idea. The businesses are different enough. One is an overpriced scene with mediocre warmed-over food that people inexplicably wait for every weekend. The other's a coffee shop. 

Desert Cat
Desert Cat

I, for one, am NOT thrilled. Having met the new owners, they are not the nicest of people and clearly do not know what they're doing in the coffeehouse business. The last thing this town needs is another wanne-be who thought it would be "cool" to own a coffeehouse.  

Jlcouleur
Jlcouleur

Over Easy does not serve espresso drinks. I am an exmple of someone who would go to OE for food and BC for coffee

spelling_bitch
spelling_bitch

Look at the Safeway on 32nd and Camelback - the Starbucks there is close to Hava Java which is always packed and serves fabulous coffee. In turn there are several restaurants around the area - and everyone does well. So bring it on Black Cat. As long as you have free wifi and chai - and LOTS of electrical outlets - I'm there!

Clari
Clari

I don't know--this is counterintuitive, but maybe it's actually a good idea.  There is something kind of lonely about a number of really good restaurants that I have been to lately; they are positioned in nearly empty shopping areas and strip malls.  Maybe they got a good deal from a desperate landlord, but the possibility of walk-in traffic drops to nil and there is no buzz factor-- the positive vibe felt when you see other diners, shoppers etc.  I think maybe it's better to be near a number of other restaurants and shops. 

Ashley Oakes
Ashley Oakes

There is always a huge wait at Over Easy and I usually go get coffee at Starbucks while I'm waiting. If there is a place next door, I will probably go there instead. I agree with Stacey that if they have later hours than Over Easy, it will probably be a good thing for that area.

Stacey Wacknov
Stacey Wacknov

As a neighbor, I will say: I am THRILLED to finally have a coffee shop within walking/biking distance.

And there's no conflict at all. One is a full restaurant, with expectations that you'll buy a full meal when you visit and only stay as long as it takes to finish said meal. The other is a cafe where you grab a cup and/or linger. To boot, Over Easy closes at 1pm. They also tend to get a little confused if you run in for an iced coffee to go (which, frankly, I've never understood).

The real question you should ask: Will the Starbucks inside Safeway hurt Black Cat's "to go" business? It'll be interesting to see how that plays out.

If the coffee and staff are good, I plan to be at Black Cat quite often.

Sarah Geiger
Sarah Geiger

I only like this because it is right in my hood! With Carmel's down the street, it is nice to have options. 

Modern Man
Modern Man

Don, all the best to you and Tima, I am rooting for you. Phoenix needs more locally owned spots, and less Starbucks. If I may, strive really really hard to provide the highest level of customer service. You can get coffee anywhere, but if you can build a spot with charm, great, sincere service, you will have a winner. You might consider checking the highest rated spots on Yelp, and seeing what they are doing right. Maybe be a mystery shopper, etc. Best of luck, I look forward to checking out your spot.

Don Hall
Don Hall

Hi DC. Both Tima and I have been at the Arcadia Towne Center as much as possible since our build-out began in April. Since we have primarily interacted with the contractors and neighboring tenants, I am guessing that you are making these comments from some possible previous meeting. If either Tima or I have done something to upset you this much, we sincerely apologize. Furthermore, we would like to invite you into the Black Cat once we open, so that we can apologize in person over a hot cup of coffee, a nice espresso drink, or a fresh-brewed iced tea. Perhaps we could even have a fresh bagel, pastry, quiche, or fresh fruit. DH

Don Hall
Don Hall

Hi SB. We will have free wifi (well…free for you, but not for us) and chai. Also, we have paid quite a lot of attention to designing in a number of electrical outlets (or, as the electricians have been referring to them – recepts.) DH

Don Hall
Don Hall

Hi Ashley. Tentatively, we plan to open from 6:00 AM – 10:00 PM, 365 days a year. But, we are still “tweaking” our possible hours. DH

Modern Man
Modern Man

Good points Stacey. I don't think the Starbucks inside Safeway will compete too much. Black Cat will be a destination, whereas Starbucks in a grocery store is more of an afterthought. I am not sure of the attitude of Arcadia residents, but I am hopeful they get the importance of shopping local, and supporting local businesses. 

Don Hall
Don Hall

Hi Stacey. We will do our best to earn your business. DH

Don Hall
Don Hall

Hi MM. Thank you very much for your support and your advice, which I think is very sound. We look forward to having you visit our shop.

Modern Man
Modern Man

My pleasure, I look forward to checking out your spot, it sounds cool. As you guys become part of the community, people will be loyal to you. While I am downtown, and not in Arcadia, I can tell you that I drive by four starbucks to hit my beloved Giant Coffee, they have a customer for life. I am sure you will have the same thing going. Best wishes!

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