Joe Arpaio's Lawyer Tim Casey Claims Court Lacks Power to Appoint Monitor with Power over Sheriff

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Sheriff Joe Arpaio's legal Lhasa Apso Tim Casey is either a past master of logical paradoxes, or he has a tin ear for irony. At least that's how his latest filing with the federal court in the ACLU's big civil rights case Melendres v. Arpaio reads.

Last Friday, the parties in Melendres submitted a joint report on areas of agreement and disagreement, regarding how Judge G. Murray Snow's order in the case should be implemented.

Arpaio lost the case in May, when Snow found Joe's office guilty of prejudiced policing toward Hispanics, and enjoined the MCSO from continuing its racial-profiling ways.

Since then, true to form, the sheriff's office has objected to nearly everything the plaintiffs have requested in Melendres, though lawyers for the plaintiffs proved during last summer's trial that Arpaio is a pathetic old bigot, and his office has a pattern and practice of discriminating against Latinos.

So this week, Judge Snow ordered both sides to submit their arguments regarding the various points of contention, the main one being whether an independent monitor is needed to ensure that Maricopa County's near-senile serial racist doesn't continue to violate the U.S. Constitution.

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In his brief on the matter, Casey concedes that a federal judge has the power to tell an elected county sheriff what to do.

And he admits it's well-established that a district court can appoint an independent monitor.

But he argues that an "Article III judge," as in Article III of the U.S. Constitution, cannot appoint a federal monitor, who can tell an elected sheriff what to do.

Read the plaintiffs' latest filing in Melendres.

The most a monitor can do, Casey claims, is suggest stuff to the sheriff, which the sheriff can either follow or not.

Read Casey's asinine arguments in his latest Melendres brief.


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dodgymerchant1
dodgymerchant1

Isn't it time this toxic old fart was in a care facility instead of harassing anyone whose skin tone offends him?

toersbijnsc
toersbijnsc

I think this entire "monitor" issue has been exploited by all involved.. Nothing is getting resolved and eventually because of default power by the judge, someone will be appointed to "advice' Sheriff Joe and make a report to the courts related to the decision made on the issue at hand. A monitor does not have the power to overrule the Sheriff - he or she can recommend to the Sheriff or submit a report to the judge who can then in turn impose a ruling on the Sheriff with due process attached per rule of law. At least, that has been my experience in other cases where a court decree is imposed and conditions are outlined and mandated by law to be followed. The monitor serves the purpose of making sure the mandates are followed and reports accordingly.

The sooner the attorneys stop playing this stall game, the better the taxpayers are because of litigation costs being paid by the county on this matter. Dithering at its best in Maricopa County

valleynative
valleynative topcommenter

Are we supposed to share the reporter's belief that it's obvious that a person appointed by a judge has all the powers of that judge? 

Is that how judges take vacation?  They just appoint somebody else to be judge for a few days?


TermLimits
TermLimits

Arpaio is the "Poster Child" for Out of Control Sheriffs who need to have a Two Term Limit!

The Old Fashioned Elected Position of Sheriff Need not even exist in Large Counties with Majopr Police Forces!

Arpaio is Proof Positive f that the System needfs Change to Control Corruption, and Tyranyts with tooo much Power!

They can become so Powerfu they think they are "Above the Law"!

royalphoenix
royalphoenix

Nickel bag keeps digging his hole deeper and deeper. peace

JohnQ.Public
JohnQ.Public

"Casey can squeal and moan all he wants. I guess he has to, so as to give the appearance of earning the $1 million of the people's money paid to his firm so far to defend a serial racist."

He has to because he is responsible to his client and I suspect that this is the firm direction he has received from his client.  Casey's job is to make the best argument he can on behalf of his client.  That's the lawyer's professional obligation - make the best argument he can on behalf of his client even if he knows or suspects it is likely a losing one.  We may find the argument that he made to be distasteful, but it is the Court's job to sort through the respective opposing arguments and make a legally sound ruling. 

WhoKnows
WhoKnows topcommenter

In response, Judge,  I just have to claim that Tim Casey should be disbarred for being lower than green pond scum.

Flyer9753
Flyer9753 topcommenter

This guy has clearly been doing some of the Meth that MCSO has impounded

dkessler4
dkessler4

LOL.  This advice is about as valid as the advice that Joe used to get from Andy Thomas.  I think that its about time for the County Board of Supervisors to cut off funds for these ridiculous actions.  What the citizens of our county are not receiving is public safety when 420 cases are ignored to pursue Joe's illegal agenda.  Joe does not need a single monitor to bring back a focus to public safety he probably needs a dozen.  Thank you Judge Snow for your assistance to the people of our county.  

IdontRecall
IdontRecall

It seems that the "player" is beign played by his own minion, after all D OLD FART'S 2 cells brain hasn't been there 4 quite a while, he doesn't recall shit -when is convenient 4 him- and that's probably why timmy is telling him that he's "ABOVE THE LAW" -just like his buddy's movie, the HB Steven Seagal- while probably he laughs all D way to D bank. Hang in there JOKE, Timmy's submitted argument will save U from that mean judge trying to impose a Monitor on U, due 2  tim's argument, which is a perfect example of his Mastery on Constitutional matters.

OATHKEEPER1958
OATHKEEPER1958

PRAYER FOR DANSDADDY   http://youtu.be/XqWJIz243mo 

DEAR JESUS PLEASE REACH INTO THIS YOUNG MANS HEART HE HAS TO MUCH HATRED FOR THE FOLKS THAT ONLY SAY WHAT THEY FEEL AND DEAR LORD MAKE HIM SEE THE RIGHT WAY AND SHOW HIM.  GOD WE AIN'T ALL PERFECT AND I CUSS TO.  I DRINK AND I THROW A SHIT STORM IN THE HOUSE BUT DEAR GOD YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE THAT HAS THE POWER TO CHANGE THIS DAM COUNTRY BACK TO THE WAY TI WAS AND HELP US ALL!!!  AMEN!!! 

OATHKEEPER1958
OATHKEEPER1958

SOUNDS LIKE A BUNCH OF MUMBO JUMBO TO ME.  THESE LIBERALS IN WASHINGTON NEED TO MIND THEIR OWN BUSINESS AND LET THE SHERIFF BE.  I DON'T SEE ANY OF THEM MESSIN' WITH ANY OTHER SHERIFF OUT THERE, ALL THEY WANT TO DO IS TAKE AWAY RIGHTS.  AMERICA NEEDS TO WAKE THE HELL UP!!!!  YALL REALIZE THAT ALL THIS CRAP HAPPENED WHEN THE SHERIFF STARTED TO DIG IN AND FIND OUT ABOUT BOHAMMAS BIRTH CERTIFICATE.  FOLKS A CONSPIRACY IS UNFOLDING RIGHT FROM UNDER YOUR NOSE.

ConcernedCitizenAZ
ConcernedCitizenAZ topcommenter

@toersbijnsc  Litigation and the mass incarceration of Arizona's people, appear to be the top business model in Arizona. Lawyers get obscenely rich off government cases paid for by the taxpayers, who can no longer afford their own attorneys when needed. 

taylorchef
taylorchef

The original number of ignored Sex Crimes was 432. You can add to that 90 more MCSO uncovered in their own investigation. That's the one they wanted $5000 a copy for.

MaskedMagician1967
MaskedMagician1967 topcommenter

Hill folk, you aren't worthy of the title Southern Gentleman.

Danzig is and has always been far more patriotic than you'll ever be. He faithfully served the people of the United States as a Marine much the same way I served in the Army.

The beauty of the 1st Amendment is that it allows for disagreements. I oppose the hateful old man. You should be thanking folks like Danzig and me for putting our asses on the line so you and Robert can spew your hateful views.

david_saint01
david_saint01 topcommenter

@HILLFOLKREDNECK i really loath when right wing extremists exploit Christianity to conform to their hate, intolerance, and ignorance. You have enough to worry about with yourself hill..seek the Lord yourself FIRST, set the example, THEN preach about others needing him. 

MaskedMagician1967
MaskedMagician1967 topcommenter

Hill folk, Washington leaves other sheriffs alone because they DO THEIR JOBS! (Emphasis added and is my own.)

When I go to DC next year I plan on meeting with Holder to see if he has the balls to indict the Flaccid Failure on abuse of power and conspiracy to violate civil rights laws. When the old man goes down he's looking at 10 years minimum for each count. And I'll make damn sure he does the time consecutively.

IdontRecall
IdontRecall

@HILLFOLKREDNECK, THANKS GOD THAT THAT CLOWN SHURF HAS ONLY 5 MORE DAYS 2 REMAIN IN OFFICE, AFTER THAT EITHER HE FOLLOWS THE MONITOR'S ORDERS OR HE IS GOING TO PRISON WHEN HE'S HELD IN CONTEMPT TO COURT. FIRST OF ALL, THANKS TO JUDGE SNOW 4 STOPING THIS FUCKING BULLY AND SHOW HIM WHO IS BOSS. D REASON THAT NO OTHER SHURFS AREN'T MESSED WITH IS BECAUSE MOST OF THEM ABIIDE BY THE CONSTITUTION AND THE RULE OF LAW, NOT MAKING A MOCKERY OUT OF IT. I HOPE U OPEN UR EYES & SEE THE BIG PICTURE. HILLBILLY

danzigsdaddy
danzigsdaddy topcommenter

@HILLFOLKREDNECK  i am going down tomorrow to donate money to the firefighters from Yarnell's fund....................want me to grab some extra money and send it you so you can buy a keyboard? its only $8..................that may be a lot for you, but it isnt for me, so it would be no problem

danzigsdaddy
danzigsdaddy topcommenter

@HILLFOLKREDNECK  no, actually it all started to come out when the sheriff started making his personal mission his only job (and doing that very half-assed) maybe if he enforced all laws instead of only one specific one, people wouldnt be going after him

ConcernedCitizenAZ
ConcernedCitizenAZ topcommenter

@PinkPanther1976 @JohnQ.Public Casey the go-to lawyer for arpaio's cronies, as well. Red flags?

JohnQ.Public
JohnQ.Public

@PinkPanther1976 Some might even say that Casey's done a deal with the devil for his own enrichment. It certainly doesn't do anything for his professional standing to lose the case at every turn but you're right - it certainly has been financially lucrative for him. But everyone gets their day in court and Arpaio's entitled to appropriate representation and to make the best argument he can on his behalf, regardless of how rediculous that argument sounds

IdontRecall
IdontRecall

@danzigsdaddy, If U send those $8.00 2 Hillfolkredneck, probably he'll send them right away 2 the FETID FAILURE, since he might B his john.

OATHKEEPER1958
OATHKEEPER1958

@danzigsdaddy @HILLFOLKREDNECK  WELL I AIN'T GONNA ARGUE WITH YOU YOUNG MAN YOU GOT  ALOT OF HATE IN YOUR HEART AND NEED TO LET THE LORD IN.  I KNOW YALL THINK THE GOOD SHERIFF IS THE DEVIL BUT THERES A REASON WHY THE SHERIFF HAS BEEN HERE FOR YEARS AND MOST OF THE STATE RESPECTS WHAT THE GOOD SHERIFF HAS DONE.  AND YES HE ENFORCED THE ILLEGALS LAW AND YES HE MADE THE INMATES WHERE PINK UNDERWEAR AND YES HE MADE A TENT CITY AND YES HE MARCHED ILLEGALS DOWN THE ROAD.  I PRAISE GOD AND THE LORD AND THE SHERIFF IN ONE VOICE AS A TRUMPET OF THE LORD!!!  BECAUSE HE CHOSE TO STAND UP TO BOHAMMA.  YOU GOT TO SEE THE BIGGER PICTURE HERE AND NOT JUST MARICOPA COUNTY.

JohnQ.Public
JohnQ.Public

@FuckJoeArpaio  Don't get me wrong....a monitor is a definite necessity in this case. Casey's arguments appear to me to be circular and without merit and the reality is that he likely knows that.  AND this should have been handled by the Civil Services Division within MCAO - if that division needed additional staff resources to handle this it could have hired additional attorneys to work within the division at a fraction of the cost compared to what they've paid Casey to handle this matter. 

But, my original point was that Casey's professional obligation is to his client, which is the MCSO, and to make the best argument he can make on behalf of the MCSO (provided it isn't fraudulent or unethical), even if it is ultimately a losing argument.

FuckJoeArpaio
FuckJoeArpaio

@JohnQ.Public  In criminal matters, with an individual's liberty on the line, and in matters that potentially limit personal freedoms, I completely agree that everyone is due their day in court.

But arguing that Arpaio is "entitled" to litigate this point at taxpayer expense isn't nearly so cut and dried. There is a public interest in limiting the financial burden resulting from Arpaio's illegal policing and malfeasance. There is a public interest in assuring the integrity of the office of Sheriff and, in light of recent rulings, the public is entitled to be protected from illegal policing. If that means a monitor, so be it.

danzigsdaddy
danzigsdaddy topcommenter

@HILLFOLKREDNECK i notice you arent denying that you own no metric tools nor are you denying that you just slap on pads and call it a brake job.....................tools dont make you a mechanic, just the same as I own a pair of scissors and it doesnt make me a barber

danzigsdaddy
danzigsdaddy topcommenter

@HILLFOLKREDNECK and for your info, a lot of those illegals ARE paying taxes (thats what they do when they use that fake ID to get that job) they just arent getting the refunds at year end or getting the retirement or social security for all they pay in. the employers (who are also breaking the law) are paying around 8% social security on each of those ID's and then pulling income tax (state, federal) on top of that. the ones that might not be paying tax are the ones who work like you do or like i do and are 10-99 employees or workers. if they were not paying taxes they wouldnt need the fake or stolen ID that the employers need. so those illegals ARE contributing just like you and I

danzigsdaddy
danzigsdaddy topcommenter

@HILLFOLKREDNECK  you just said it "THIS COUNTRY GOD HAS GIVEN US ALL" that is what i have been saying all along, whereas all your previous stuff seems to exclude hispanics and blacks. this isnt your land, my land or theirs, its gods and hes letting us ALL use it

OATHKEEPER1958
OATHKEEPER1958

@danzigsdaddy @HILLFOLKREDNECK ERASED MY MEESSAGE THIS DAM COMPUTER AND I PAY I PAY ALL MY TAXES HELL THATS MORE THAN ANY OF THESE ILLEGALS DO!!  MY PATRIOTIC DUTY IS TO LIVE A RIGHTEOUS LIFE IN THIS COUNTRY THAT GOD HAS GIVEN US ALL.  AND YOU NEED TO LET THE LORD IN YOUR HEART BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO MUCH ANGER. ALL OF US HAVE SINNED AND COME SHORT OF THE GLORY OF GOD. I WILL PRAY FOR YOU TONIGHT AND HOPE THE LORD BRINGS SOME PEACE TO YOU YOUNG MAN.

danzigsdaddy
danzigsdaddy topcommenter

@HILLFOLKREDNECK seriously, do you report your income for all these side jobs you do? or are you just shirking your financial burden like you did your patriotic duty?

danzigsdaddy
danzigsdaddy topcommenter

@HILLFOLKREDNECK of course the ranger runs great..................its been up on blocks in your front yard for how many years now?

danzigsdaddy
danzigsdaddy topcommenter

@HILLFOLKREDNECK so you can afford snap-on but not a $8 keyboard???? whats wrong with that picture??    did you really mean Harbor Freight?

OATHKEEPER1958
OATHKEEPER1958

@danzigsdaddy @HILLFOLKREDNECK LET ME EDUCATE YOU ON SOMETHIN' YOUNG MAN ABOUT THE AUTO INDUSTRY.  SOMETHIN' THEY DON'T TEACH YOU IN THAT ASE SCHOOL. YOU KNOW YEARS BACK WE DIDN'T HAVE A DAM COMPUTER FOR A VEHICLE AND IT RAN JUST FINE NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY GO AND PUT COMPUTERS IN THERE TO GET FOLKS TO BUY IT. THATS WHY THESE IMPORTED PIECES OF CRAP CAN'T RUN GOOD. AND I DO ALL MY WON WORK DONT NEED FANCY ELECTRIC TOOLS AND THE SORT. EVERY VEHICLE I WORK ON IS DAM GOOD QUALITY AND EVERYONE THAT I HELP THEY TELL ME WELL GEE I TOOK THIS VEHICLE TO ONE OF THOSE CERTIFIED MECHANICS THEY TOLD ME THIS HERE WAS WRONG. THEN I TELL THEM WHAT THE REAL PROBLEM WAS AND FIX IT JUST RIGHT AND SAVE THE FOLKS SOME MONEY. DON'T TAKE MUCH TO FIX A VEHICLE WELL UNLESS YOUR DON' THE ENGINE OVERHAUL BUT OIL CHANGES THEY WANT TO CHARGE YOU $60 FOR A GODDAM OIL CHANGE. MY 1990 RANGER RUNS JUST FINE AFTER ALL THESE YEARS AND I NEVER ONCE TOOK IT TO ONE OF THOSE SO CALLED CERTIFIED MECHANICS. SNAP ON TOOLS ARE THE ONLY TOOLS I USE.

danzigsdaddy
danzigsdaddy topcommenter

@HILLFOLKREDNECK  do you even own a micrometer?  dial indicator? hell lets start out basic...............do you own metric wrenches (and no a crescent wrench doesnt count.................... or pliers)

danzigsdaddy
danzigsdaddy topcommenter

@HILLFOLKREDNECK i see, since you are unable to learn new technology or keep up with current automotive advancements you just assume you are the only honest mechanic out there. time and the world are passing you by while you wallow in your ignorance. if you were an actual good mechanic, you would be learning the newer tech to help the people you say are being ripped off by all the "unqualified" and "dishonest" ASE techs. do you even know why there is ASE certification? its to keep the techs current on technology and to make sure there is a set standard of excellence and knowledge for those techs it is also a badge that you wear proudly to display you are not some ignorant drunken bumpkin working under a tree and have been educated or trained to work on the vehicles that people spent their hard earned money on. meanwhile, rubes like you are destroying those peoples cars and charging them for shoddy workmanship and sending them off in cars that may or may not be safe after you are done. we usually call idiots like you "pad-slappers" what that means (because i really dont think you know enough to figure it out) is that you are the kind of nimrod that does a brake job by just slapping on a set of pads. you are the kind of menace that doesnt inspect or know how to inspect the whole brake system. you dont turn rotors, you dont flush the brake fluid or system, you dont clean or replace any other parts besides the pads, and you sure as hell dont know how to work on the calipers. you then send the person out with rotors that are probably too thin and will overheat and warp, calipers that will hang up, or brake lines that are faulty or leaking. the brakes that you just installed should be warrantied for a set amount of miles but wont even last half that because you never turned the rotors. you basically sent a person who was foolish enough to trust you out in a car that now has a great potential for imminent brake failure. and all the while that you are sending people out in death traps..............you are saying that the illegals are taking those jobs from you. well thank god they are, because sooner or later your unqualified uneducated drunken hillbilly ass is going to cost someone their lives with one of your brake jobs

danzigsdaddy
danzigsdaddy topcommenter

@mrh0202201091  even if someone was stupid enough to pay HILLFOLKREDNECK to work on their car, i have a feeling he doesnt report it as income or pay taxes on it

mrh0202201091
mrh0202201091

AND WHAT CHECK FROM THE GOVERMENT DO YOU GET....UNEMPLOYMENT...OF WHICH MILLIONS OF HISPANICS HELP PAY INTO.....SOCIAL SECURITY....AGAIN OF WHICH TONS OF HISPANICS PAY INTO...AND NOT TO MENTION..CITY..STATE.. AND FEDERAL TAXES...IT S A SYSTEM OF WHICH WE ALL PAY INTO......

danzigsdaddy
danzigsdaddy topcommenter

@HILLFOLKREDNECK HAHAHAHAHA................shade tree mechanic...........just because you get drunk and stare at an engine does not make you a mechanic. do you know what the biggest money maker for certified mechanics is? its going back and fixing the stuff drunken idiots like you thought you were fixing.  let me guess, your favorite and most used tool is the old stand by "BFH" (big fucking hammer)............i can just see you now buying used suspension parts from the junkyard.  just because you and your buddies did a pad slap brake job once..................it doesnt make you a mechanic

OATHKEEPER1958
OATHKEEPER1958

@danzigsdaddy @HILLFOLKREDNECK YALL DONE PISSED ME OFF AND YOU KNOW WHAT ASE STANDS FOR?  STANDS FOR AIN'T SHADETREE EDIOT!!  HELL SHADETREE MECHANICS ARE THE ONLY HONEST FOLKS AROUND THAT'S THE GODDAM PROBLEM IS YALL WANT TO STICK ALL SORTS OF COMPUTERS AND CALL YOURSELVE THE ASE CERTIFIED!  AIN'T NO SUCH THING A ENGINE IS A ENGINE YALL TRYING TO INVENT THE WHEEL AGAIN.  LET JESUS IN YOUR HEART YOUNG MAN

THE_JUDGE
THE_JUDGE

@danzigsdaddy I think they are the same troll. They are both shitty out of work mechanics, their trolling styles are similar and ideologically they are on the same page.  Two separate windows into one disturbed mind. His post/s used to bother me until I realized that jaffy is handicapped,poor, un/underemployed and simply lashing out while simultaneously trying to entertain himself. It is pathetic and sad. I still hate the motherfucker his postings simply ceased to annoy me.


danzigsdaddy
danzigsdaddy topcommenter

@HILLFOLKREDNECK i actually have more respect for JoeArpaioFan than i do for you. instead of crying how everyone is taking away his job, he took a job at Burger King cleaning the bathrooms. he adapted and survived, you wont, youd rather cry that no one is giving you work that you dont deserve anyhow

danzigsdaddy
danzigsdaddy topcommenter

@HILLFOLKREDNECK so it illegals who are taking all the food stamps and lowering the wages ???? your comment has a few flaws in it skippy. #1 if illegals are getting all the foodstamps as you say, how are they doing it? and also it means citizens are the ones claiming them also (and your comment indicates you might be on them too). #2 illegals are lowering the wages?? illegals arent the ones paying so they cant lower the wage. if you want to blame someone, blame the employers. in my job i took a lower salary in order to get and keep my job instead of the other guy that i was more qualified than (he was white by the way) i had to lower my pay expectations in order to beat him out for the only opening in the company. a realist can see that he would have to be competitive, a pessimist would just see it as the other guys fault...............i am a realist, you are way beyond a pessimist. you also say you are a shade tree mechanic and that illegals are taking away your jobs. 2 things about that you need to see more clearly, #1 work harder or stop doing inferior work or start pricing better and you wont lose your jobs. #2        I AM a ASE certified mechanic and its "shade tree mechanics" like you that are taking away our work (and many, probably you included, are turning out inferior work and ripping people off and giving all mechanics a bad name).  try this one superstar (its what i did), if your industry is failing, move on to another industry, adapt and survive. automotive was getting bad for me, so i went into the A/C field. once i got into the A/C field, i established and proved my worth. i adapted and survived, all you are doing is crying that you are failing because of others when it is actually your inability to adapt or assimilate. YOU are the problem, not them. 

IdontRecall
IdontRecall

@HILLFOLKREDNECK, So toothless 1 U R admitting that D CLOW SHURF, in UR own words,"..AND YES HE ENFORCED THE ILLEGALS LAW AND YES HE MADE THE IMMATES WEAR PINK UNDERWEAR...BLAH...BLAH..". If that's not evil U R beyond salvation, thus U need 2 stop using the name of God in vain. How U dare 2 praise the Lord and the satanic shurf in the same prayer, U R SATAN'S MASSSENGER AND U PLAY HIS HAIRY TRUMPET.

danzigsdaddy
danzigsdaddy topcommenter

@HILLFOLKREDNECK are you upset because they are getting your foodstamps?? well i am getting upset because YOUR sheriff is taking my tax money and blowing it to cover his ass. if illegals keep taking your jobs..............stop doing inferior work or work harder

OATHKEEPER1958
OATHKEEPER1958

@danzigsdaddy @HILLFOLKREDNECK  I KNOW DAM WELL WHAT A RACE TRAITOR IS ITS' FOLKS THAT DON'T WANT TO LOOK OUT FOR THEIR OWN FIRST. DON'T MATTER WHAT COLOR YOU ARE, DON'T MATTER WHERE YOU CAME FROM, A RACE TRAITOR CAN BE ANYTHING LIKE GOIN' AGAINST THE SHERIFF I WOULD CALL THAT A RACE TRAITOR BECAUSE THE GOOD SHERIFF IS DOING HIS JOB AND RACE TRAITORS ARE THE ONES THAT WANT TO GO AGAINST HIM WHEN THAT DAM ILLEGAL ALIEN IS THERE TAKING YOUR JOB, TAKIN' ALL THE FOODSTAMPS AND LOWERING ALL THE WAGES.  NOW I'M A SHADE TREE MECHANIC YOU KNOW HOW MANY ILLEGAL ALIENS TAKE MY BUSINESS?  TO MUCH.  SO DAM RIGHT I SUPPORT THE SHERIFF.  THIS IS AMERICA I CAN SAY WHATEVER THE HELL IS ON MY MIND AND AM EXERCISING MY GODDAM FREEDOME OF SPEECH!!!

danzigsdaddy
danzigsdaddy topcommenter

@HILLFOLKREDNECK it isnt your country coward, you never fought for it. you let others die for your rights while you sat comfy and safe at home. you have no right to lay claim to the country that my friends and comrades at arms died for. if anyone has a right to decide who can be here it would be we who fought for this land (and that includes indians and mexicans and blacks as well as whites)

danzigsdaddy
danzigsdaddy topcommenter

@HILLFOLKREDNECK  by the way, one of the teachings of christ was that we are all brothers...............not just the white ones (or does the term race traitor come up in the bible?????)

danzigsdaddy
danzigsdaddy topcommenter

@HILLFOLKREDNECK i do see the bigger picture, you dont. people like Joe are against everything i fought for when i took an oath to defend this country and the people in it. if you want to support anti-establishment agendas and promote lawlessness.............support that old fool. me, i prefer to respect ALL life and ALL laws. 

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