Bill Montgomery Skewered in Puente March, SANE Defends Monty

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Right across from Monty's office, a banner drop from a downtown parking structure telling Monty what's up

Maricopa County Attorney Bill Montgomery took it on the chin Monday, as about 120 demonstrators protesting Monty's discriminatory policies toward undocumented workers marched more than 3.5 miles from Steele Indian School Park to Montgomery's offices in the county administration building in downtown Phoenix.

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Organized by the local human rights group Puente, protesters carried signs calling for an end to Sheriff Joe Arpaio's immigrant-hunting raids on employers, and demanding that the Obama administration stop all deportations, pending the passage of comprehensive immigration reform.

Read the Real Arizona Coalition's defense of County Attorney Bill Montgomery.

They also carried signs comparing to apartheid the county attorney's practice of charging undocumented workers so as to hold them nonbondable, thereby almost guaranteeing their eventual deportations upon conviction.

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Julia Ojeda with her American citizen children, Jennifer (hugging her) and Jonathan: their father, her husband, is being held nonbondable by Monty's apartheid system

Pro-immigration activists incorporated Monty and his sinister policies into their chants, with, "Arrest Montgomery, not the people," and "Stop the raids, drop the charges."

After they reached the county building, two activists unfurled a banner that read "Montgomery is racist," from a parking structure directly across the street.

Montgomery's defenders, the counter-protesters, were the sort who normally defend Arpaio: Grizzled motorcycle-huggers from Riders USA, screamin' Teabagger Art "El Tudy" Olivas with bullhorn in tow, alleged lesbian-transsexual-nativist Lynne Stevens, plus a few other oddballs wearing NRA caps and bearing signs that read "Remember 1986."

You know, as in the Reagan amnesty.

The Teabaggers were on the steps of the little plaza leading to the doors of 301 West Jefferson as the marchers approached from the east. They were soon overwhelmed by the pro-immigration folks, though many of the T-bone-granddaddys held their ground, including Olivas, who screamed non-stop and incoherently into his beloved bullhorn.

Interestingly, despite usually wearing a sweatshirt that identifies him as representing "Latino Legal Immigrant Tea Party Patriots," Olivas claims to be a mixture of Native American, Italian and German. I asked him why he used the term Latino to describe his group.

"The reason it is `Latino' [is] because that's what the white people classify us as," he said. "When they see us, they say, `Latino, Hispanics,' and all that bullshit."

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Shining Soul's Franco Habre (left) and, um, Non-Latino Latino Art Olivas chop it up

Well, that clears that up. I also asked him what he thought of Arpaio's recent slip and fall. Olivas shrugged it off.

"He'll be doing his goddamn job from a goddamn hole in the ground or wherever," Olivas replied.

I wondered about Joe's "broken arm," saying it must be worse than that, maybe a broken rib or a stroke, if it's taking him this long to recover.

"I have no idea," he said. "Just because he talks to me doesn't mean I'm going to go kiss his ass."

Interesting. And what did Olivas think of Monty?

"He's just doing his job," Olivas explained. "He's doing what we pay him for."

Later, the ornery Olivas met his match when a young, tattooed, pro-immigrant guy went toe-to-toe with him, holding a bigger bullhorn into Olivas' face. It was hot bullhorn-on-bullhorn action, with insults and vulgarities flying, till Olivas eventually packed it in, realizing he was out-bullhorned.

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ConcernedCitizenAZ
ConcernedCitizenAZ topcommenter

Mr. Montgomery, Where's your moral compass?

Slavery and exploitation is at the core of destroying these families in the tradition of the GOP "masters" who control the state.

Montgomery, a Catholic, needs to consider who he truly worships. Is his God the GOP or his Catholic faith which traditionally has served the poor, the disadvantaged, the immigrants, and even offenders. 

twotacostogo
twotacostogo

so, illegal mexicans don't like law enforcement? who would of guessed that?

danxranx
danxranx

Sounds like some prettty crazy smack to me dude. Wow.


www.AnonNet.da.bz

ConcernedCitizenAZ
ConcernedCitizenAZ topcommenter

Gangs of America by Ted Nace - the rise of Corporate Power and the disabling of democracy
http://www.gangsofamerica.com/

"Corporations are the dominant force in modern life, surpassing even church and state. The largest are richer than entire nations, and courts have given these entities more rights than people. To many Americans, corporate power seems out of control. According to a Business Week/Harris poll released in September 2000, 82 percent of those surveyed agreed that “business has too much power over too many aspects of our lives.” And the recent revelations of corporate scandal and political influence have only added to such concerns."

Where did this powerful institution come from? How did it get so much power? In Gangs of America: The Rise of Corporate Power and the Disabling of Democracy, author Ted Nace probes the roots of corporate power, finding answers in surprising places. A key revelation of the book is the wariness of the Founding Fathers toward corporations. That wariness was shaped by rampant abuses on the part of British corporations such as the Virginia Company, whose ill-treatment killed thousands of women and children on forced-labor tobacco plantations, and the East India Company, whose attempt to monopolize American commodities led to the merchant-led rebellion known as the Boston Tea Party.

In Arizona, incarceration is favored over education of the people. 
So who is Montgomery beholden to? CCA / Chuck Coughlin / ALEC / Koch Bros. ?



DNichols
DNichols

@Bgray59: Before the January 2008 start of the I.C.E. Deportations, the "Foreclosure Crisis, the Great Recession, ect. Legal Residents could pick and choose any job they wanted, in fact the Twenty-five year period prior to the I.C.E. Programs was "The Most Prosperous Time in Total U.S. History.

Now our Children can take their College Degrees to the Farms, and pick food, hoe weeds, drive tractors, ect.

You are blaming the Hard Working People who's Hard Labor was the very FOUNDATION of our Storng Economy for the Economic Damage done to our Nation by Deportation/Incacerations of good hard working People.

These are Family Units made up of both legal, and un-documented "Human's"

This is America's Darkest Hour, it has made many Supremacists, and Racists' including Nazi's very happy.

Wake up America.

bgray59
bgray59

Sounds like Montgomery is doing his job.

DNichols
DNichols

January 2008 began the E-verify Law, the Hitler like I.C.E. Deportation/Incarceration Programs, and of course the "Foreclosure Crisis", The Great Recession", and our "Ballooning National Deficit".

"America is great because it is good, when it ceases to be good, it ceases to be great."

Alex De Tocqueville

Since the stsrt of the I.C.E. Deportation/Incarcerations in January 2008:

Over One Hundred Hispanic Immigrants have Died in I.C.E. Custody.

Over Thirteen Thousand un-documented Immigrants have been Incarcerated for years with out even charges.

Over Five Thousand Legal Hispanic Children of un-documented Immigrants are now in U.S. Foster Care.with Parents ripped away from them.

Over Forty-Two Thousand Hispanic "Human Beings" now lay Dead at the Harsh U.S. Mexico Border where I.C.E. has Deported/Dumped Hundreds of Thousands into a known "Drug War" with nothing, not even water to be killed, or to Die of the Elements. (The I.C.E. Mass Graves.)

Hitler burned Humans in Ovens, I.C.E. has burned Humans in the Desert.

Where is the "Humane" Immigration Reform?!!!!

This is our I.C.E.'d Economy, I.C.E. "Put the Car in the Ditch!"

To: Good, and Brotherhood, from Sea to shining Sea.

FRONTERA
FRONTERA

Way to keep montys  feet to the fire.Yes  monty tries to have it both ways,but the JIG is up.At heart he has hurt manyLATINO families,on the account someone is trying to feed there kids in the USA.  Montys problemo is, his past is so well documented that one day hes talkin to the base,tea party.Then hes trying to act like he didnot say  and do those deeds.    With   a  likely chance of a Democrat Governor in 14-CARMONA and a AG being D,THIS  hateful racist monty will get as the scriptures proclaims,what shall ever a man soe, so shall he reep. In my book Montgomery is the modern day " GEORGE WALLACE OF ARIZONA."                                              

danxranx
danxranx

The whole thing is pretty funny when you think about it.


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azcumsquelcher
azcumsquelcher

@truthseekeraz It's about time wealthy conservatives learned from wealthy liberals. Ownership of the media is key to mainstream acceptance of views/ideology

ConcernedCitizenAZ
ConcernedCitizenAZ topcommenter

Montgomery's and arpaio's (just to name a few) "puppet masters". Shameful destruction of our democracy.

bob_lablaw96
bob_lablaw96

@DNichols Since 1986, somewhere between 11 and 20 million illegals have come here.  The last amnesty program turned out to be the beginning of the next amnesty program.  If you love them so much, take them back to their homeland and show them how to be prosperous.  Help them defy their government, not your own...or my own

bgray59
bgray59

@DNichols ICE did not kill the people in the desert.  They killed themselves by attempting to cross without proper resources and planning.  

If the 13,000 have been held without charges why have immigration attorneys not filed a writ of habieus Corpus. Is it because there was no profit for the attorneys.


What about the millions of legal residents who cannot get a livable wage because illegals have depressed wages so low.  Look at Construction laborer rates in Phoenix vs St Louis.  Phoenix  Labors start and top out at 10.00 per hour.  St Louis  Labors start at $10.00 and top at $22.00.  Construction cost per square foot are the same.


Even CRNT TV reports that the immigration and violence problem is the fault of the Mexican Government. You cannot complain that CRNT  is in the hands of the teabaggers.

Go back and do some empirical research before you start your great philosophical rants infused with half truths and manipulated data.

azcumsquelcher
azcumsquelcher

@FRONTERA George Wallace? What the fuck do you know about history? You people throw around the "racist" label at anyone who upholds the law that we, as citizens of Arizona, have legislated and thus have the duty to enforce. If what we do is "racist," then I'm not even sure what you would call Mexico's border policy with Guatemala. 

bob_lablaw96
bob_lablaw96

@FRONTERA Bullshit!  You sound like you have more illegal family members than citizens.  Take your show on the road.  It is pretty thin and tasteless.

We DO NOT need, or want, more illegals.  Is it that hard to comprehend? Comprende?

FRONTERA
FRONTERA

@danxranx its funny like monty is the  modern day GEORGE WALLACE of  Arizona,and latinos are being unjustly hurt......

ConcernedCitizenAZ
ConcernedCitizenAZ topcommenter

Go after the Mexican Mafia and drug lords instead of the established families working to survive.

bob_lablaw96
bob_lablaw96

@truthseekeraz @DNichols Rant about the Koch Brothers all you want, but they are not the driving force of immigration. The corrupt government of Mexico pushes these illiterates to our borders, hoping that they can get a job and send needed money home to Mexico.

All for me, and no one else?  That sounds like the mantra of the illegal immigration supporters/dupes.  Why can't we just enjoy those that come here legally?  Why must we make special considerations for those that prefer to break into our country?

The Koch Brothers are your red herring in this debate.  Why not admit that you do not care whether illegals are a burden or a boon, you just want to hug them all...at our expense.

bgray59
bgray59

@truthseekeraz @bgray59 Assumes facts not in evidence.


As usual with you, when you cannot manipulate the facts and logic to refute my arguments, you result in personal attack.


In this case you have skipped any pretext of fact, logic or reasoned discourse and gone to the default  position of a weak mind,

bgray59
bgray59

@MotherJones @bgray59 Each office holder swears an oath to uphold the law.  Failure to uphold the law can and should result in the dismissal of that official.


Mother you are a little early in resorting to personal attack.  I guess you do not wish to take the time to rebut the facts and logic of my arguments.  

shadeaux14
shadeaux14

@bgray59 ,

If you want to really address the reason wages are being depressed all across America, look no further than your local Walmart and look to the union busting efforts and right to work legislation republicons are so fond of.

DNichols
DNichols

@bgray59;

How many of the Over Forty-two Thousand now laying Dead right where I.C.E. Derported/Dumped Hundreds of Thousands in to a "Known Drug War" with nothing, not even water are in Fact Deported Humans Dumped to Die?!!!

I would say All of them.

These Human Beings worked hard in Mexico, and saved for years for their Journey to "The Greatest Country on Earth."

When they were Dumped to their Deaths they had not a Peso, no Water, and faced hundreds of miles of Harsh Desert to walk accross to try to get home!

They were Dumped to Die Period.

This is Fact: The United Nations should go to Mexico and do a little "Research" of the "Truth".

I doubt God will see much difference in this Mass Dumping in the Desert, or Hitlers Ovens.

Lets quit Pretending.

America was Built on Far Better Principles, and Values.

To: Good.

MotherJones
MotherJones

@bgray59 @DNichols "What about the millions of legal residents who cannot get a livable wage because illegals have depressed wages so low.  Look at Construction laborer rates in Phoenix vs St Louis.  Phoenix  Labors start and top out at 10.00 per hour.  St Louis  Labors start at $10.00 and top at $22.00.  Construction cost per square foot are the same." 

Ever hear of this little thing called unions? Arizona is a right to work state. Missouri is not. In states where unions have more power, wages are higher. This has zip to do with immigration.

"ICE did not kill the people in the desert.  They killed themselves by attempting to cross without proper resources and planning. "

Wrong. If you knew anything about US border policy, you'd know that the US government cut off migrant crossings in El Paso and San diego, creating a "funnell effect" where migration goes through the Sonoran Desert. The govt. did this knowing people would die.

http://www.aclu.org/files/pdfs/immigrants/humanitariancrisisreport.pdf

"Deaths have paralleled strengthened border enforcement efforts in the last fifteen years. Growing academic research has substantiated that these policies and strategies have made border crossing difficult, dangerous and even life-threatening. In a 2005 paper evaluating the border and immigration strategy implemented since 1993, researcher Wayne Cornelius summarized that one of the consequences had been the spike in migrant deaths. In 2006 the University of Arizona Binational Migration Institute issued a scientifically rigorous report examining the “funnel effect” produced by the border enforcement strategy that had made southern Arizona the site of the greatest number of unauthorized border crossers’ deaths on the southwestern border.70 In 2009, another researcher, Douglas Massey, testified before the U.S. Senate Judiciary Committee that accelerated militarization of the border had also increased “the risk of death”.71 Many more studies by the U.S. General Accounting Office, Rutgers University and the University of Arizona have confirmed that migrant deaths have paralleled strengthened border enforcement efforts irrespective of the addition of an official, government search and rescue operation to prevent migrant deaths.72 The former INS Commissioner under the Clinton Administration and signer of the “Border National Strategic Plan for 1994 and Beyond,” Doris Meissner, put it simply: “Still [in 2009] such deaths continue to loom as a tragic byproduct of border enforcement.”

bgray59
bgray59

@azcumsquelcher @truthseekeraz @bgray59 Obviously you cannot read and process information.  Please address my response with facts and a reasoned argument.

Once you have no intention of dealing with the real subject and can only attempt to insult and denigrate anyone who offers a position to what you believe but cannot defend.

azcumsquelcher
azcumsquelcher

@truthseekeraz @bgray59 apparently holding any type of non-progressive political view makes you a paid troll. With all of these random employees of the GOP running around the internet, republicans must be scraping the bottom of the barrel for pennies these days

bob_lablaw96
bob_lablaw96

@shadeaux14 You are right, but you are speaking from a "Right to Work" State.  Unions have no base here.  I do not think that they are relevant any more, but may be of use in some industries.

The Farmworkers, and SEIU are unions made up of mostly illegal workers.  Why would we want them demanding benefits?

bgray59
bgray59

@shadeaux14 Look at the places were jobs have been created.  States with right to work laws.

Look at the states and cities who are going bankrupt.  Strong irrational government unions and elected officials who depend on those unions to stay in power.  Detroit has been taken over by the State. Atlanta will go into bankruptcy within the next 2 to 3 years.

The only thing which allows some people to survive is Wal-Mart. 


If you do not like Wal Mart do not shop there.  If enough people follow your lead then they will change their policies and raise their prices.  My guess is that you do most of your shopping at Wal-Mart.  You rail against them but you continue to support them because it suits your economic interest.

You really aught to read the economic studies done on the Meat Packing industry.  Also include Chuck Hagels involvement.  It is a primer on the entire problem of unions and the loss of manufacturing jobs in the US. 

Before you blame the Republicans research Bill Clinton's involvement with Tyson foods and the Chinese.  Bill gave the Chinese favorable treatment.  This accelerated the loss of manufacturing jobs. 

When you have completed your home work assignments come back and join the discussion.

bgray59
bgray59

@DNichols Their elected government (Mexican) created the problem through their economic policies, corruption and deals with the Cartels.  In order to maintain their position they are actively encouraging their Citizens to violate US Law and go north.  (CRNT documentary on the border problems).  

NSA threat report identifies Mexico as the greatest threat to collapse.  In order to stay in power the ruling oligarchy is exporting the citizens to the US by any means possible.  Their hope is that the surplus population will not rebel against and cause a repeat of the slaughter which occurred in the early 1900s.

azcumsquelcher
azcumsquelcher

@truthseekeraz @MotherJones @bgray59 @DNichols and Reagan's drug war is probably at fault too right? When does history ever cease to explain the current shortcomings of people? Is there no such thing as personal responsibility? Are we able to constantly shift blame on previous generations for every issue we face today? Mexico was a shithole before NAFTA. It's up to their government and people to make appropriate changes to their economy and system of governance . Not every global problem is the result of 'murica

bob_lablaw96
bob_lablaw96

@MotherJones @bgray59 @DNichols Ummmm, they cut off the easy routes as a way to tell the illegals not to bother.  Why should we pave a street for them to cross into our country?

I hate to sound rude, but why are you people not spending your energy, and money, lobbying the Mexican government to improve the lives of their countrymen?  Why not demand an end to Mexican corruption?  Why demand all American people to support these people just because you like them?

There are procedures in place to immigrate to the United States.  Why is it that we have to accept millions of Mexicans, instead of Turks, or Somalis?  

Why have laws at all if you do not intend to enforce them?  The Mexicans should wait just like everyone else.  They are no more privileged than any other country's poor.  They need to demand the same things of their government that they do of ours.

bgray59
bgray59

@MotherJones @bgray59 @DNichols The illegals make the choice. They know the risk.  It is their responsibility not mine nor the US governments.

Do you not believe in personal responsibility?

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