Joe Arpaio Lies, Insults His Deputies, Promises School-Posses with "Automatic and Semi-Automatic" Weapons

But for our semi-senile autocrat, if the deputies involved had more firepower, they (magically) never would have been shot. That's why, he promised, he would be arming "all my deputies with automatic, semi-automatic weapons."

So both the posse members and all of the actual deputies will have automatic and semi-automatic weapons. That's a situation Hartmann compared to Uganda at the end of its civil war, or the current anarchy in Somalia.

Hey, maybe Joe should have his own nuke? I mean, why not? Then he could protect us from enemy attack as well. Better safe than sorry, right?

As for his geriatric posse men and women, each reeking of old-person smell, why, they're the same as deputies, Arpaio contended, a comparison I'm sure his actual deputies love.

"My posse have been through the same requirements as regular deputies," Arpaio prevaricated. "Over 100 hours of training, and refresher courses."

This, of course, is complete bullshit. As I pointed out in a recent post, Arpaio's posse members are not certified by the Arizona Peace Officer and Traininng Board.

That means they are not peace officers and do not have the power of arrest.

They may wear uniforms nearly-identical to actual MCSO deputies, but they are not trained like deputes are. Far from it. I'm not sure what this posse "training" actually entails, as AZ POST Executive Director Lyle Mann told me that POST provides zero training to Joe's posse.

According to POST's website, law enforcement agencies enroll their trainees in a POST-certified academy, where they will go through "a minimum of 585 hours of mandated training," and "pass a Comprehensive Final Examination."

Which, I reckon, is a good thing. To compare a pear-shaped posse member to a sworn officer is completely ridiculous. As ridiculous as Arpayaso himself.

Sure, some posse members are former LEOs and ex-military. But even if they've been POST certified in the past, or certified in some other state, if that certification has been inactive for three years after separation from a law enforcement agency, they must renew their certification, or they cannot be re-employed as cops.

The AZ POST website spells out the trouble with acting like a cop when you are not POST-certified:

"A person who has inactive peace officer certification has no law enforcement authority. A person with inactive certification who takes action as a peace officer under certain circumstances may be committing the crime of impersonating a public servant. In order to perform the duties of a peace officer or exercise the authority of a peace officer, a person must have both active peace officer certification and be authorized to exercise that authority or perform those duties by the appointing law enforcement agency."

Arpaio is practically encouraging his posse members to commit "the crime of impersonating a public servant."

I mean, why not identify these posse members as posse members, instead of allowing them to wear uniforms and drive cars that identify them as MCSO deputies, when they are not?

This latest stunt by Joe is a disaster waiting to happen. But hey, this is what 50.7 of the electorate in Maricopa County voted for. And we have four more years of it to endure.


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comrade
comrade

I wonder if one of those army veterans in the Posse, go into Flashback armed with an automatic weapon,  thinking that all those children are the enemy, what is going to happen

shadeaux14
shadeaux14

"To compare a pear-shaped posse member to a sworn officer is completely ridiculous."

This would be true if we were talking about a "Law Enforcement" agency. Unfortunately, we are talking about the MCSO, the county's premier organized crime family. 

Linda Gibson
Linda Gibson

All it takes is one simple happy trigger finger and Arpaio will have himself in a noose hanging by a limb of a tree in his own back yard.

Linda Gibson
Linda Gibson

I recall being chased around Sun City by a volunteer posse. I was doing mu job of deleting auto parts. I did not know he was tailing me. When I arrived at my destination, this old guy jumped out of his car, mind you he had cop lights on it too, he was threatening me and was going to turn me in and then I noticed he had his hand on his holster. I turned to him and said, " I did not break any laws. I did not speed. I am only guilty of being a Latino. You on the other hand are impersonating an officer, so, you probably broke more laws just cause you think you have the right to harass and chase people. Talk about profiling, I'm a woman and Hispanic, two thing that old timers hate. I told him where he could go, and I proceeded to tell him he better get out of my sight in 5 minutes or I am going to make a complaint.". He then hurriedly got into his make shift cop car and left. I never was bothered by him or any other jerk water posse.

Mike Kzle
Mike Kzle

Yep. The Newtown killer was terrified of dying right before he shot himself.

Mike Gray
Mike Gray

Unless it is someone, like, maybe, JT Ready in his posse.

Joe Kennedy
Joe Kennedy

your assault weapons are useless against armed drones and stealth fighters.

Joe Kennedy
Joe Kennedy

And if anyone brings up the militia crap let me say this..

Joe Kennedy
Joe Kennedy

Scot you mentioned the kid from yesterday and his bullying story, he was already suspended last year for designing a "hit list". I don't believe his story and to say "good for him" is asinine. There are other ways to handle bullies and when I went to school I did it. It's called being badder then the bully and kicking his ass. It seems more kids would rather have a weapon do it for them now. It's not just one thing that will solve this problem it is many combined and gun control over assault weapons and high capacity clips of a start.

Scot Koontz
Scot Koontz

It's not exact science Joe, but it's human nature, these idiots don't always wanna die too, but i think it makes some of them think twice and the more of us that have concealed permits the less it would happen, I think. They go after people they think are defenseless, although as someone else pointed out gun control or for that matter everyone having a gun will not stop the evil from doing horrible things. I think the facts are that we are never going to curb this sort of thing till people have their heads screwed on straight, and until many other things take place first..look at that kid yesterday...shot a bully, good for him...that needs to stop and who knows, maybe bullies will think twice before doing their shit to others from now on in fear of later retribution ? Certainly arming everyone isn't going to solve it either. Explaining those things you mentioned on says to me that having armed people around didn't stop anything there from happening anymore than if everyone laid down there weapons and said no more, which we know will never happen. I still don't know what the pic has to do with the story, lol...I'm lost, lol

918-101
918-101

Watch out ... here come some FACTS!!!!

If any of you ignorant people would actually look at the Posse and what they do, you might change your thinking. Attend orientation and see the age range of people that are in the Posse. For all of you that think everyone is from Sun City, you are sadly mistaken. There is a large group that range from 20-45. And if you start with OMG, 20! ... well, they can fight for your country at 18 ... still wanna complain? The man hours that the Posse provides every year, if you were to pay them, because remember, they work for FREE ... would be about 4.5 MILLION dollars. Not only do they give their time for FREE, but all of their uniforms and equipment are payed for by themselves. Nothing comes out of your pocket ... even the marked cars they drive aren't county owned.

Joe Kennedy
Joe Kennedy

Explain Fort Hood, Virginia Tech or Columbine

Paul Merrill
Paul Merrill

Ok, stop being shock-journalists. Throwing a picture of gay, man-love up there makes you look unprofessional and just as ignorant as the homophobes.

Scot Koontz
Scot Koontz

well i'm a big believer in if evil doers think that people are carrying weapons themselves, such in the case of concealed weapons permits, they are less likely to commit their evil, just saying...they want places where no one will fight back, but if they think everyone will they will back down

Sharon B. Salomon
Sharon B. Salomon

I'm sure that a deranged person planning to kill children will think twice if he/she knows there is an armed guard at the school. Puleeeze!

Jason Jantzen
Jason Jantzen

WTH does the image have to do with the article? How more biased can you get???

Destina Dominguez
Destina Dominguez

"Maricopa County Sheriff's Office posse man Glenn Coffman gets naked with an alleged prostitute." Nice thumbnail!

Gregory Bill Jacklin
Gregory Bill Jacklin

Now if the teachers were armed and had proper training the posse could be used elsewhere. Gun Control will never stop an Evil man set out to do Evil.

Jeff Ramon
Jeff Ramon

What the hell is up with that photo?

Sam Edwards
Sam Edwards

why does the photo look like two Men holding eachother ever so tightly?

ArizonaSucks
ArizonaSucks

When isn't Arpaio a liar....it is what he does best.

danzigsdaddy
danzigsdaddy topcommenter

most of the people Joe is recruiting as posse (sun city seniles.....oops meant seniors....i think) need to have their driving privilidges taken away because they are dangerous, if they cant control a golf cart, who thinks they could handle an AR-15?

DPSnAZ
DPSnAZ

This old fool boasts a .50 Cal. machine gun atop his "tank". A weapon that has a safety range of more than 7 miles. 'nuff said!!

Tommy_Collins
Tommy_Collins

The old man is truly a goober. Such an embarassment to law enforcement.

What he didn't say was that his deputy who is now fighting for his life very likely did not follow trained procedures in how to deal with what is known as a "High Risk -or- Felony Stop". I have the utmost sympathy for the family of the deputy and I hope he pulls through and lives to take his due retirement. However, he apparently made some mistakes that put him in peril and almost cost him his life.

The old man described his deputy as "old school and tough". Neither of which will stop bullets.

With 29 years of MCSO service I think the deputy should have been riding a desk until his retirement date. I also think that having elderly members of the posse in uniform and marked cars is asking for one or more of those posse members to be attacked. The old man didn't have an answer for that one.

Perhaps divine intervention will occur and the old man will retire to a snowy pasture in Massachusetts, where he belongs.

In the mean time professional law enforcement officers are taking the brunt of being the ass of jokes due to this nasty, evil, selfish bastard who calls himself a 'shurf'.

WhoKnows
WhoKnows topcommenter

Schools require extensive background checks on all employees.  Are the Prune Posse members checked to the same degree?  There have been posse members that are convicted criminals!

PissOnArpaio
PissOnArpaio

What a embarrassment Arpaio is to law enforcement.

Posse with automatic weapons, amazing.

This buffoon believes his own bullshit.

dennis20
dennis20 topcommenter

Can't wait to see Seagal and Arpaio smash thru the wall of a school in a tank looking for a joint.

dennis20
dennis20 topcommenter

Arpaio comes on the video around 16:30 if you prefer not to hear the rest of the show.   

WhoKnows
WhoKnows topcommenter

Arpaio is simply too stupid and too egotistical to comprehend he had his balls handed to him in this interview.

What surprises me is that Joke's handlers let him go on a program where the person doing the interview wouldn't bend over and kiss the Joker's ass.

robert_graham
robert_graham

Here we go again, more yellow journalism from Mr. Lemons.  Go screw yourself.

66rock
66rock topcommenter

"reeking of old person smell"?  Why was it necessary to disrespect the elderly like that for this article ?  Shame.

jonnyquest
jonnyquest topcommenter

Joe Arpaio is a piece of shit...but "do we really want firefights going on around our schools?" What's the alternative? Let the bad guy carry on? I mean, you call the cops in such a situation. What do they do? COME WITH GUNS TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM!!!

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