Joe Arpaio's Paid, Campaign Computer Guy Also a Maricopa County Employee

beeatthegarden

MONEY CANNOT BUY ARPAIO LOVE ~ " As the disgusting Arpaio political ads continue to flood local airways, I can’t help but find solace in the adage that like a zebra can’t hide its stripes neither can Arpaio cover up his pink underwear. Arpaio has terrorized his political opponents from the day he decided to run for sheriff way back in the early ’90s. Most of us relate to the elected or appointed o...fficials that he has abused but there are dozens and dozens of normal citizens where he and his “Gestapo” have ruined or attempted to ruin their lives. This is no well thought out political strategy on his part, but rather these actions are who he is and how he rolls. I should know. I’ve known Arpaio for 30 years and I have personally experienced his wrath. It took me 10 years to recover emotionally and financially, but recover I have. Like every dog has his day, Arpaio has had his. Speaking of dogs, Arpaio cares more about people abusing animals than pedophiles abusing children. Now I’m all about loving all the doggies of the world, but Arpaio will round up a bunch of so-called “deadbeat” parents who either haven’t or can’t pay their child support payments and parade them on local TV but, at the same time, neglect hundreds of cases of alleged sexual predators on the loose. Coincidentally, these children have a high propensity to be Hispanic. So what’s with that? He profiles Hispanics looking for illegals but turns his cheek the other way if they happen to be pedophiles? This is an outrageous example of law enforcement gone wild. Under his “Reign of Errors,” over $50 million of taxpayer dollars have been spent settling cases of abuse against Maricopa County directly attributed to how Arpaio’s employees have treated prisoners. You don’t write checks to people because you’re innocent. You write them to either cut your loses, as an admission of guilt, or as a result of a court order. During his watch, outside auditors have confirmed that his department has wasted over $100 million. Remember the trips to Honduras to train the local police? Honolulu to get to the bottom of Obama’s citizenship? Listen up budget-conscious, deficit-hawk Repubs, your boy Joe has blown over $100 million and you continue to vote for this buffoon? I know it’s because you think that his “I’m the Toughest Sheriff in America” persona is making Maricopa County more safe and that you won’t become a target of crime. Think again. Analysis of local crime data indicates that if he were responsible for policing all areas of Maricopa County, we would have had nearly 8,000 murders reported last year. Joe is all about Joe. After nearly 20 years of his “Reign of Terror and Errors,” we know who this guy really is and no amount of out-of-state money can buy our love. Hopefully, the time has finally come where we can together all wave “Adios, Arpaio.” It’s been quite a ride and don’t let the door hit ya in the backside on your way out. There is a new sheriff coming to town and his name is Paul Penzone. He is a 20-year veteran of the Phoenix Police Department. He headed up the Silent Witness program and has a successful track record solving cold crime cases, as well as busting up local meth distribution rings. He is a professional and all about working with other local law enforcement agencies to solve crime. That’s right Joe, your worst nightmare. Someone who is professional. Someone who actually wants to work with local law enforcement. I’m thinking that Penzone is not planning to ride in Arpaio’s tank accompanied by a SWAT team in the Fiesta Bowl Parade". • Jon Beydler is a 34-year Valley resident and the former mayor of Fountain Hills. He lives in south Chandler Posted: Friday, October 19, 2012 2:00 pm | Updated: 1:42 pm, Fri Oct 19, 2012. Commentary by Jon Beydler Special to AFN

danzigsdaddy topcommenter

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whether he is guilty or not, the problem is in the burden of proof. just as i say Penzone did not assault his wife because there is no proof, i have to give this schlub the innocent until proven guilty benefit also. even though joe has always been known for pulling shady stuff as well as the people around him have, we need the burden of proof. you may know it, but, it would be up to proving it in a court of law that would be difficult

JoeArpaioFan topcommenter

@danzigsdaddy But there is proof that Penzone assaulted his wife. The proof is in the Glendale PD and Maricopa County Superior Court records. Penzone even admitted to it (he would never have admitted to it if he had known he would be running for sheriff now).

beeatthegarden

@JoeArpaioFan @danzigsdaddy

Please produce the Glendale PD and Maricopa County Superior Court records so we can read them for ourselves. Just stating your opinion, does not make it so. I have read the Glendale PD report WORD for WORD. It is my humble opinion that If you had read the report as I have, you would not be making such a claim that "Penzone assualted his wife". I would like for ANYONE to read that report and find if they would say what you have.....because the would not. There is NO PROOF of any assault on either side of the matter. Thinking people will investigate for themselves and not rely on hearsay on this, or any other, message board. Yes, and BTW, Mr. Penzone was the party who requested officer assistance in the matter. Not the other way around. Do... read the report.

meeble

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@JoeArpaioFan @danzigsdaddy How many times are you going to regurgitate the same lie on this forum, JAF? Penzone NEVER assaulted anyone. Get your facts straight. The police report is very clear about the incident that occurred between Paul and his ex-wife.

yourproductsucks

@meeble

Get your facts straight

Right back at ya, Fleener.

JoeArpaioFan topcommenter

Where is the proof??? Just because he is a county employee doesn't mean anything. Stephen Lemons will say anything to demeanor his enemy even if it includes untrue facts. Instead of being bias, it is time that Phoenix New Times publish the dirt on Penzone or must I be the only one to do that? Have you seen http://therealpenzone.com website yet?

BusterBrown

@JoeArpaioFan nice crayon work, asshole

fsmith3

If Arpaio gets ousted, will that be reason for Lemons to be considered for the Pulitzer prize?

How about an "Izzy" award?

JoeArpaioFan topcommenter

@fsmith3 I'd rather see him get a good ass whipping.

david_saint01 topcommenter

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@JoeArpaioFan @fsmith3 lol im your huckleberry ;)

david_saint01 topcommenter

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@JoeArpaioFan @fsmith3 meaning, come try to kick mine....=)

yourproductsucks

Is there evidence of this guy working on campaign matters while on duty or is this just one additional example of yellow journalism from the same author?

JoeArpaioFan topcommenter

@yourproductsucks Yellow journalism of course.

david_saint01 topcommenter

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lol kid acts as if hes this genius by his quote....but i think its hilarious that Chad Willems apparently thinks he has the authority to determine if someone is breaking campaign laws...Cute. "I uphold the law, but not when my people break it" - Joe arpaio

OnlyInArizona

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If Maricopa County's new Human Resources Director (who just happened to be recruited from MCSO) doesn't investigate this issue, I'll know the coverup is complete. How did this guy Smith work for MCSO at the same time he worked for Maricopa County and fly under the radar? His supervisor had no idea? Are his timesheets accurately filled out, or did he lie?

JoeArpaioFan topcommenter

@OnlyInArizona Keep crying us a river. You lose.

OnlyInArizona

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MCSO is full of "moonlighters" who work at private enterprise during work hours using county resources/time. One only has to be reminded of Aaron Brown and his "security job" for the Fiesta Bowl...where reportedly he spent his days lining up MCSO deputies for night shifts, etc. Now you have this guy Rafael Smith working for the County AND not reporting his fairly lucrative contract with MCSO to his employers.

Readers...isn't this the same type of scenario that Arpaio/Hendershott and the MACE Unit tried to indict others on? Didn't he spend a ton of money trying to indict County workers for "misuse of county resources?" Isn't this scenario the exact same thing...only there really is money being made by the county employees?

Why can't Smith's (and Aaron Brown's for that) hard drives be copied so that the County Attorney can prosecute if in fact the County is/was being used as a cash cow? This is disgusting.

JoeArpaioFan topcommenter

@OnlyInArizona Moonlighting is not against the law. It's encouraged.

david_saint01 topcommenter

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@JoeArpaioFan @OnlyInArizona lol so, in one comment above you claim this guy isnt doing it..then in this comment say its ok...can you pick a theory and stick to it, we have enough flip flops to deal with in Mittens already...

danzigsdaddy topcommenter

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@JoeArpaioFan idiot moonlighting is not encouraged, and in some circumstances is even grounds for termination

OnlyInArizona

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Incorect. Again. Moonlighting IS prohibited if it conflicts with your employment or if you used county resources to make "extra money". Time will tell whether that happened.

danzigsdaddy topcommenter

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isnt it strange how Joe has such a good IT guy, yet they keep losing video, files and memo's that are needed in all these court cases or investigations? or is the fact that no digital data remains what makes joe consider this guy a good IT guy?

Flyer9753 topcommenter

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@danzigsdaddy

I was wondering that myself. Anyone working in the private sector with this guys record of losing things on the network/computers he is supposedly administering would have been fired long ago, and rightly so.

FrankG40

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Here's a picture of the vehicle

http://www.azcentral.com/ic/imgs/surveillance-vehicle.jpg

JoeArpaioFan topcommenter

@FrankG40 They're spying on you as I speak. Your IP address has been recorder and you have been classified as a domestic terrorist.

Flyer9753 topcommenter

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@FrankG40

Thanks, I was just looking for that.

Interesting, I can ID several of those antenna and it could listen in on a lot

One of the best reasons for people to learn how to properly encrypt their home networks and hard drives.

Unfortunately too many people do not, or they do it using the built in weak encryption the vendor uses, that the vendor has also given the keys to all law enforcement agencies so they can break thru easily.

Encrypt your shit ppl - if you need help ask, a lot of us who know what to do properly are willing to help.

The 5 additional seconds it takes for you to type a password to access something is well worth the privacy it gets you.

FrankG40

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There have been many allegations about MCSO's "secret" IT and surveillance staff.........strange that during the last wrongful death lawsuit, a witness was going to testify about his computer being remotely accessed and files being deleted and amazingly the county offered a HUGE multi million dollar settlement........and there's that mobile surveillance vehicle lurking around which has abilities people would be amazed at........all paid for by the Feds.....makes you say hummmmm......

wherewasi

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... and that picture of Chad is a bit disturbing. He should lay off the beer, as he is starting to look a bit like Hendershott.

MaskedMagician1967

@wherewasi And what about the boa constrictor around his neck?

JoeArpaioFan topcommenter

@MaskedMagician1967 @wherewasi Or the noose around your neck.

david_saint01 topcommenter

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@JoeArpaioFan @MaskedMagician1967 @wherewasi do us a favor fan boi...go to your garage and shut the door, start your car, and breath deep.

A_Cunning_Linguist

@MaskedMagician1967 @wherewasi

Let's not hold anything against the boa. He's only a model, doing his job. Trying to make a fat guy look slimmer....

titosan

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Somebody should conduct an audit on these fools, probably they are sending money overseas

right there where "Mitt Robme" has His. Afterall they are republinuts.

crbullseye

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I highly doubt the mugshot page gets 16 million hits a day! Smoking that stuff is fun.

Princeton

The same could probably be said about Penzone and Stauffer. I am sure they don't handle all the campaign affairs themselves. So what if Arpaio hired that firm. He can spend his money any way he wishes. I am confident my large donation to Arpaio a few months back is being put to good use.

azweasel

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@Princeton You are a fucking moron for giving arpaio one red cent.

wherewasi

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@Princeton... and, no, he really can NOT spend the money "any way he wants". There are rules, you know. But then, your hero Da Shurf only follows and enforces the laws that he wants to.

For example, paying rent to his wife for his campaign office - maybe not against the law, per se. But if he's paying his wife $1200 a month, in order to avoid the appearance of converting campaign funds to personal income, he should find a different office for $1200 per month and vacate Ava's space and let her rent it to someone else for $1200 per month. Assuming it's WORTH that. Or could it be that he is leasing his campaign office from his wife for $1200 per month because the going rate for the space would only be $800 so he's giving her an extra $400 ...?

I liken this to Mary Rose Wilcox's votes in favor of an organization that gave her a business loan. This issue was investigated and the last 5 votes were reviewed. She was not present for the first one, and the other 4 supervisors all voted aye. The other 4 were unanimous. Her vote didn't change the outcome of any of the votes. She did nothing "fishy". BUT, in order to avoid the APPEARANCE of inpropriety, she should have abstained from voting. Then there would have been no question of a conflict.

Oh, wait. I forgot that I'm preaching to Dee Dee's vagina. I know it is pointless to use facts or logic. Carry on with your numb mumbles, Daffy JAFfy...

Flyer9753 topcommenter

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@Princeton

Wow - you should be a spin Dr and an avoidist, since you avoided the entire issue here.

Who cares if Arpaio handled it himself in any fashion. You are right, so what if Arpaio hired that firm.

The problem comes when a county employee (Rafael Smith) double dipped at all or did not report he was working for the Arpaio campaign, that is a violation of the Hatch Act.

"As a merit system-covered employee, Smith is required to inform the county in writing of any moonlighting."

"He also is required to adhere to a scrupulous policy regarding political activity. Any political work on duty is a no-no, for various legal and ethical reasons."

Next time try to stay on the topic

Sorry you wasted your donation/money

p.s. $1 is not a 'large' donation

yourproductsucks

@Flyer9753 "The problem comes when a county employee (Rafael Smith) double dipped at all or did not report he was working for the Arpaio campaign, that is a violation of the Hatch Act."

This is most certainly NOT a violation of the Hatch Act. If he were to be getting paid as an employee of Maricopa County and was working on Arpaio's campaign, now that would be a violation of the Hatch Act. There is no evidence of this happening. What he does on his own time is a federally protected right.

Bnbk

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@Flyer9753 @Princeton

How san you say that Flyer ? One dollar may very well be a large donation for Princeton.

Flyer9753 topcommenter

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@Bnbk @Princeton

Oh I am 100% sure it is, from Prince's perspective, but I was not talking about from prince's perspective, I was talking about from realities perspective

Something that is clearly foreign to Prince, reality that is

MaskedMagician1967

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Does anybody really believe the Flaccid Fuckup when he and his incoherently babbling mouthpiece of a campaign manager say that the IT guy worked on the Old Fool's campaign?

Princeton

@MaskedMagician1967 I think Penzone's finances and money spent and where should be investigated too because I smell a rat. The fact that he has been paying for "Facebook likes" is totally unacceptable.

wherewasi

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@Princeton First of all, I doubt he pays for "Facebook likes". Second of all, even if he did, who cares and why is it "totally unacceptable" - ? Facebook likes are not votes. What IS totally unacceptable is the fact that Arpaio lies every time he opens his mouth.

MaskedMagician1967

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@wherewasi Liz, the Old Fool's Wikipedia page has a quote from the Tin Star Shurf. The quote is "One thing I don't do is lie."

I started laughing my ass off at that remark.

MaskedMagician1967

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@Princeton Hi JAF. Back again to spew your delusional, incoherent babble I see?

No one is listening or paying attention to you or your delusional, incoherent babble. Go spew your mush somewhere else and leave the sane voters of Maricopa County alone. We have important work to do, like taking down the MCSO shurf....