Joe Arpaio Scores $93M Building Named for Him? Maybe

JoeArpaioFan topcommenter

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But what if somebody other than Arpaio was sheriff and their name was there instead, would you write the same article about that too? Probably not!

bdickus2001

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I'm no fan of Arpaio, but I have common sense enough to recognize that the architects are not suggesting the building be named for him.

His name is on the renderings because to indicate who the sheriff is!

If Penzone was sheriff it would be his name in the renderings.

I don't approve of politicians advertising their names on public signage and buildings (e.g. "Welcome to Phoenix! So-and-So, Mayor") but it just happens.

Arpaio is enough of a fuck up for you to blog & write plenty of articles about without you having to go making shit up!

truthseekeraz topcommenter

As a taxpayer and voter, I do not want to see the Sheriff's name on the building, further "branding" himself. This is not a monument to one man. A Colorado disgraced and imprisoned sheriff had his name on the building and everything else. Why honor a criminal? Not knowing what the future holds in the millions of $$'s of lawsuits that could reach one Billion $$'s down the line at taxpayer expense, demands thinking ahead. Time to end personalizing all the county vehicles, signs and military "toys". Elected sheriffs should not be able to further their campaigns.

truthseekeraz topcommenter

Also time to slash the Sheriff's PR budget. Tired of the media stunts at taxpayer expense.

StacyP

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Perhaps they can just name a urinal after him?

StacyP

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...or what if it has a note that reads: No Judges, Politicians or Activists were charged with conspiracy to commit fraud in the creation of this building?

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truthseekeraz topcommenter

@vickysandhu200 spot-on! Removing the statute in the dark of night...

Tommy_Collins

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Let's not forget a statuette of Old Slow Joe surrounded by his team of security "experts", protecting the facade known as america's "tenderest" shurf.

Eventually any recognition will likely meet the same fate as that of Old Joe Paterno, another closet criminal.

I think my supervisor, Andy Kunasek, will be all for any recognition of Old Slow Joe. :-)

GreenHornet

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One wall of the building should be filled with the names of those killed by the MCSO. Another wall should be filled with the names of sex crime victims whose cases were ignored by Joe.

truthseekeraz topcommenter

@GreenHornet You hit it out of the ballpark!

Tommy_Collins

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@GreenHornet

Excellent idea. I'm not sure the wall would be big enough, however.

danzigsdaddy topcommenter

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@Tommy_Collins tommy i have a question for you, have you seen the arpaio ad on t.v. "meet the real arpaio"? on it they claim he was kidnapped and shot at. have you ever heard this before? i cant find any info on it and believe it to be a lie. at no point in the commercial does it say that it was approved by arpaio, so i have a feeling that it may be a lie and he will pull the same B.S. he did about his book when confronted about it (where he says he knew nothing about it and it was somebody else who said it)

Tommy_Collins

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@danzigsdaddy @Tommy_Collins

Zigs, I have seen the ad several times, typically late at night uring the news. I have NEVER heard or read any claim anyplace that the Geriatric Goon had been kidnapped. Hey, he just makes stuff up and then expects the media to disprove it. As long as the media doesn't do so it appears to become 'fact' over time.

MaskedMagician1967 topcommenter

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Just what we need: The Flaccid Fraud stealing another $93 million taxpayer dollars.

danzigsdaddy topcommenter

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@MaskedMagician1967 on top of the 99 mil he mismanaged, on top of the probably another 100 mil in lawsuits (and there are more to come) he wont be happy till he burns through his first billion of our money

MaskedMagician1967 topcommenter

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I think he's already hit that mark. Wouldn't be surprised if there is more taxpayer cash wasted because he refuses an audit of his books.

I think we need stronger state and federal laws to protect us against people like the Flaccid Fraud.

We definitely need a state Constitutional amendment that would limit every elected public servant to two consecutive or non-consecutive terms in office, including the sheriff. (This should also be a federal requirement, especially for Congress.)

The sheriff should be a sworn peace officer (given that A.R.S. 11-441 lays out that requirement and AZPOST does not)

We definitely need state and federal abuse of power laws. These laws should clearly define what abuse of power is, what constitutes abuse of power, and lays out penalties for violations.

Just sayin'

MaskedMagician1967 topcommenter

@Tommy_Collins ARS 11-441 does not require the sheriff to be certified peace officers, though the first requirement of the sheriff is preservation of the peace.

I would LOVE to see a state Constitutional amendment that would require the sheriff be a certified peace officer rather than a civilian administrator.

truthseekeraz topcommenter

@MaskedMagician1967 Great suggestion. Create a petition on change.org so people can begin to sign it.

Tommy_Collins

@MaskedMagician1967

I must be missing something. I couldn't find any section in 11-441 that addresses certification of a sheriff. Conversely, R13-4-103 (B) specifically exempts 'sheriffs' from needing to be certified. While I agree that every sheriff SHOULD be certified it appears there is no legal requirement for certification, unless you can point to it.

shadeaux14 topcommenter

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@MaskedMagician1967 We also need an independent entity to police the police. Letting law enforcement police themselves has proven, time and time again, to be an abject failure. The "Blue Wall of Silence" is devoid of anything remotely resembling ethics, or honesty.

HR1616

@brahmresnik More proof this state is just insane.

narizona

Had a Grandfather that was buried there , wonder if he'll wake up now?

yourproductsucks

Very classy move to mock the Memorial for Fallen Deputies, ste(ph)en. Your irreverence towards the the families of those who sacrificed all is unfortunate.

DickTrickle

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@yourproductsucks No, it's not a monument for fallen deputies, YourProduct. It really is a physical symbol of an agency lacking real leadership.

jonnyquest topcommenter

@yourproductsucks Absolutely right. Many WWII German soldiers served honorably, didn't commit war atrocities, or steal from helpless people. We should put up some monuments to them too.

GreenHornet

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@yourproductsucks You mean, like Scott Norberg's family? Or Marty Atencio's?

yourproductsucks

@GreenHornet

Divert and make counter accusations when you have no ability to address the argument.

GreenHornet

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@yourproductsucks Just learning from your excellent example, YPS.

danzigsdaddy topcommenter

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@GreenHornet correct. just because MCSO killed them before their day in court doesnt make them automatically guilty. they deserve reverence too, not like MCSO running marty atencios photo in joes "slammer" paper as mug shot of the week after they killed him. where is the reverence for his family? if you give no respect...expect no respect

truthseekeraz topcommenter

@yourproductsucks ... and the penthouse suite of offices for the Maricopa County Sheriff overlooking his minions. No place for any county sheriff at taxpayers expense.

truthseekeraz topcommenter

@yourproductsucks Checked out the photo of the horse under Wells Fargo logo. Looks like a tribute to Wells Fargo -- the banker for the private prison corporations.

shadeaux14 topcommenter

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@Tommy_Collins @yourproductsucks @BossD @danzigsdaddy Sorry Tommy. but the MCSO hasn't paid any attention to the "Good of the Taxpayers for years. Arpaio had filled the department with megalomaniacs and badged bullies who get their jollies pushing people around.

I think a much better use of the 93 million would be to use it to do thorough psych evals on every deputy and detention officer the see how many of them are psychologically and emotionally stable enough to wear a badge and carry a weapon.

MaskedMagician1967 topcommenter

@Tommy_Collins @yourproductsucks @BossD @danzigsdaddy I completely agree with you Tommy.

There are professionals who work for the MCSO shurf and it is those people who deserve my signature on their paychecks.

To tarnish or sully the good names of the professionals who actually want to do the job is wrong. I don't like the MCSO shurf, but I would still expect professional and courteous police service from MCSO.

yourproductsucks

@GreenHornet @danzigsdaddy

If we are lucky, then it won't be an issue when it comes time to place the name on the building.

GreenHornet

@yourproductsucks @danzigsdaddy then we can just leave his name off, and not have to worry about replacing it, eh?

GreenHornet

@yourproductsucks @Tommy_Collins @BossD @danzigsdaddy How did Lemmons attack the men and women of the MCSO? He didn't. He's mocking Joe. Remember, the guy who wants his name on a $90M build?

Oh, and who calls Lemmons "steen" which is creepy slang that I'm sure YPS wld like to explain to us?

YPS is a troll, pure and simple, and probably well paid to do it.

Tommy_Collins

Jonny, every agency has those, as you know. Yes, the figure head, known affectionately as Old Slow Joe, is directly responsible, but my comment was regarding the memorial. Whether in law enforcement or the military, or as a medical professional, if an employee gives their life in the "line of duty" they deserve some degree of memorial. Many, if not the majority. of peace officers in Arizona give willingly of themselves for the peace, safety, and well being of the citizens and taxpayers. Let's not forget that for the sake of an article about an elected curmudgeon.

yourproductsucks

@danzigsdaddy

All Sheriff's Office Buildings have arpaio's name affixed. When he is gone, his nam will be immediately replaced by his predecessor. If you were to visit a Serhiff's Office building in Pima County you would see Clarence Dupnik's name affixed.

jonnyquest topcommenter

@yourproductsucks @Tommy_Collins @BossD @danzigsdaddy I have personally encountered MCSO deputies who won't do their job. They are slackers who get away with it because of their boss, Joe Arpaio.

yourproductsucks

@danzigsdaddy @Tommy_Collins

The Memorial already exists and can be found outside the front doors of the Board of Supervisors conference room. The new building has nothing to do with Arpaio, but is a budgeted item for the County and includes a state of the art communiations center for dispatch.

danzigsdaddy topcommenter

@Tommy_Collins i have no problem with them recieving a memorial and feel it is justly rewarded. i also have nothing but contempt for arpaio, so i see (in my opinion) that it being dwarfed by by the proposed arpaio building as an insult to their memory. but i do get what you are saying tommy, i just find it hard seeing a memorial for something honorable sitting alongside something that to me represents the deeds arpaio does

yourproductsucks

@Tommy_Collins @BossD @danzigsdaddy

" While most of us here, speaking mostly for myself of course, hold the MCSO sheriff in complete disdain, there is no need or benefit to besmirch those officers who work professionally for that very same agency."

Exactly!

I have little issue with those who hold (righteous) contempt for arpaio. To attack the men and women of MCSO collectively because of anger and resentment towards arpaio is misguided and wrong, even if it's ste(ph)en lemons who is doing it.

Tommy_Collins

@yourproductsucks @BossD @danzigsdaddy

Interesting. I've not see it but will swing by and check it out.

For those who have been lambasting YPS over this I would kindly ask that you stop. There is no need for an attack on a memorial of officers who have suffered while doing their jobs. While most of us here, speaking mostly for myself of course, hold the MCSO sheriff in complete disdain, there is no need or benefit to besmirch those officers who work professionally for that very same agency.

Please keep in mind that MCSO is there for the good of the taxpayers, regardless of the intent and design of the sheriff.

yourproductsucks

@danzigsdaddy

I don't have the energy to spoon feed you. Suffice it to say, you are wrong, regardless of what you perceive the truth to be. SImply recognize you are ignorantly posting and the best thing you can do is stop digging.

yourproductsucks

@david_saint01 Arpaio's endorsement of Napolitano had nothing to do with Norberg, but had everything to do with the AG's (Napolitano's assignment) investigation of the infamous pink underwear scandal involving Hendershott.

It wasn't hard for Arpaio to cross the aisle since he originally was a Dem.

yourproductsucks

@GreenHornet I've never hid my employment. In fact, it's common knowledge. Glad to see you catch up with the rest of the group.

GreenHornet

@yourproductsucks @BossD @danzigsdaddy Now I know you work for MCSO. Hah. that's right behind your bldg. Thing is, it's not at 5th and Jackson right now. This pic is just a sugg of what things might look like. And lemons was insulting Arpaio. Doubt he even knew what Mr Ed was for. U did tho. Tell Joe hi up there on the 19th flr.

yourproductsucks

@BossD @danzigsdaddy

http://www.art.com/products/p1631809148-sa-i4191079/richard-cummins-they-served-well-sheriff-s-memorial-phoenix-arizona-united-states-of-america-north-america.htm

There is a pictue of The Memorial you assert does not exist.

david_saint01 topcommenter

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@yourproductsucks @danzigsdaddy @GreenHornet being that i know more about both than you YPS (im not telling how, but ask specifics and ill give them), i can tell you both were murder. Ask yourself this YPS, why did joe give Nappy his endorsement for Gov? What was the time correllation between Norberg's death, and the endorsement...and what position did Nappy hold when this all went down??

danzigsdaddy topcommenter

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@yourproductsucks so they are gonna buy a sculpture for about probably a hundred thou to honor those who gave their lives, and dwarf it in the shadow of a hundred million dollar monument to a guy who looked the other way while people lost their lives while in his custody? sounds honorable to me

danzigsdaddy topcommenter

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@yourproductsucks you mean the horse under joe arpaio's name? the little tiny statue under the big letters spelling out J O E A R P A I O?

BossD

@yourproductsucks @danzigsdaddy Arpaio's name is on the building, YouPieceofShit. Take your straw man and go home.

BossD

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@yourproductsucks @danzigsdaddy There is no memorial, just like there is no building. And no name on no building. I went in a close as possible on the picture in the link, there's nothing on the horse statue or the base. how wld YPS know what the freaking horse is? nice diversion YPS. BTW, are you on duty right now?

YPS = You Piece of Shit

yourproductsucks

@danzigsdaddy

The Riderless Horse IS the Memorial. IT is what lemons was irreverrently referring to when in the artist's rendition of the buildings front entrance.

danzigsdaddy topcommenter

@yourproductsucks read the article..where do they say its a memorial to fallen officers? they say its a building that si being considered to be named for him. you brought up the memorial and tribute to fallen officers

yourproductsucks

@danzigsdaddy

His name isn't on the Memorial. Moot argument. You are obviously ignorant of the difference between the new county building and the Sheriff's Office Memorial.

danzigsdaddy topcommenter

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@yourproductsucks no what is sick is putting the name of a man who looks the other way to deaths of the people in his custody on a memorium to fallen officers. they died defending rights or laws, he ignores them and has contempt for them. putting his name on a memorium to fallen officers is as sick and repugnant as naming a holocaust victim memorium after adolph hitler. whereas the officers laid their lives in honor, joe arpaio makes a mockery of what they stood for.

yourproductsucks

@danzigsdaddy @GreenHornet

Bill Coleman had as much to do with Atencio and Norberg as you do. Your logic is flawed and sickening.

danzigsdaddy topcommenter

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@yourproductsucks maybe he's paying homage to the unconvicted that died under joes time in office alongside the fallen deputies. there have been quite a few of them also.