Joe Arpaio "Kidnapped"? Ex-DEA Honcho Phil Jordan Cries Foul

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I thought I'd heard every Sheriff Joe Arpaio story there was to hear, tall tales and otherwise. But there seems to be one more in the kitty.

This new bit of Joe lore is mentioned in the sheriff's latest, nauseating campaign ad, "It's time you met the real Joe Arpaio."

Like after 20 years, we don't know this carnival barker coming and going. Sheesh.

The ad relates Sheriff Joe's bio in about 30 seconds, which is all you need, if you cut out all the corruption, lies, malfeasance and criminal activity.

"As a top official with the DEA, he traveled the globe, fighting criminals and drug dealers,"
says the voiceover at one point. "He was shot at, even kidnapped. All while raising a family with his wife Ava of 55 years."

Um, wait, kidnapped? When exactly did that happen, I wonder?

I've read both of Arpaio's books in the past, Joe's Law and America's Toughest Sheriff, each co-written with Arpaio's slimy amanuensis Len Sherman.

The autobiographical parts of those books are the same, literally, word for word, and cover Arpaio's time in the Army, as well as his stints as a flatfoot in D.C. and Las Vegas, then as an agent with the Federal Bureau of Narcotics, which eventually became the DEA.

Both accounts are full of massive whoppers, as I detailed in a 2008 column. Arpaio claims to have helped shut down the French Connection. You know, as in the 1971 film of the same name.

For the 2008 column, I spoke with Sonny Grosso, one of the New York City cops involved in that historic investigation. (The "Russo" character Roy Scheider played in the film was based on Grosso.)

Grosso said he didn't know anything about Arpaio being involved in the investigation, and he told me, "The only thing that stopped [the French Connection] was our case."

And, no, that wasn't Gene Hackman playing Joe in the movie.

Arpaio boasts that he single-handedly shut down the Turkish drug trade, though Time magazine reports that the opium trade pumped along, unaffected, long after this stereotypical "ugly American" had amscrayed back to the U.S.

As a cop in Las Vegas, he says he pulled over Elvis. No way to prove or disprove it.

And so on.

Arpaio's war stories are full of drug stings gone bad, Mexican standoffs, gun battles, and how clever and tough ol' Joe was back in the day.

One thing I didn't recall from the books was a kidnapping. So I dusted off those volumes and scanned through them again. Didn't see any kidnapping tale.

I downloaded Joe's Law on Kindle and did a search for "kidnap." Kidnapping was mentioned, but only in the context of illegal immigration.

Nor is Joe's kidnapping mentioned on his campaign website, as it currently reads.

I searched Nexis and Google, came up blank. So I called around to folks who know Joe all too well. None of them could recall a kidnapping caper.


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password1
password1

BE LEGAL & NOT INVOLVED IN CRIMINAL ACTIVITY AND JOE WO'NT BOTHER YOU!!! THANK YOU JOE FOR HAVING SOME!!!! KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!! GET ALL THE ILLEGAL ALIEN'S, DRUG CARTELS AND SCUMBAG CRIMINA LS OUT OF HERE!!!  MAYBE THEN THERE WON'T BE LITTER ALL OF THE STREETS BEACHES, PARKS ECT!!!!! MEXICO IS A TOILET THAT'S WHY THEY DON'T EVEN WANT TO BE THERE!!!! LET'S NOT TURN USA INTO A TOILET IT'S ALREADY BECOMING ONE DUE TO THEM. I'VE SEEN IT W/ MY OWN 2 EYES!!!!! THROWING TRASH IN OCEAN OUT OF CAR RATHER THEN WALK THEIR LAZY BUTT TO THE TRASH CAN ONLY FEET AWAY!!! ENOUGH!!! STOP BREAKING THE LAW!!! DO IT RIGHT BECOME A CITIZEN SPEAK ENGLISH RESPECT OUR LAWS!!!!   

peebeejay
peebeejay

Yep Old joe must be feeling the heat, or perhaps he really is senile....also vomit worthy was the ad where he claims to chamipion children "who are often neglected by the ones they should trust the most...their parents"   i am thinking the hundreds of West Valley  children who were victims of sex crimes sure put their trust in the wrong people...Joe Aprpaio and the MCSO.....yep lets meet the "real" Joe Arpaio  that ought to be a real treat...

The_American_Nightmare
The_American_Nightmare

Last "the little bird" told me was that Mr. Joe was to be starring along side Chuck Norris, Sylvester Stalone, and Mr. Ex-Governator in "The Expandables 3". =)

 

Mr. Joe is simply a delusional character pretending to enforce American values, but what he seems to of forgotten is that this country was founded by immigrants, who is he to decide who stays and who doesn't? Last I checked he wasn't supporting any illegal immigrant who may I add holds a job as opposed to any U.S, citizen who is happily sitting on their couch receiving welfare. Why not take a stance against teen pregnancy, or is it that next time we'll hear him tearing down doors on over hormonal teenagers???

 

Mr. Joe should just get his act together and start fight what is truly affecting our society, not what we can say is benefiting it, who else will take under paid wages and work overtime if not these people in search of a better life. They are not taking anything away from anyone the are simply earning it. 

 

mcwkr
mcwkr

So...a "little bird" told Arpaio Fan that there would be the largest immigration raid yet coming?  Shows you just how STUPID the MCSO really is.  Anyone would would divulge "highly sensitive and secretive in nature information about an ongoing investigation PRIOR to a raid to somebody who blabs all day on the comment boards regarding the Sheriff needs to be hung out to dry.

 

danzigsdaddy
danzigsdaddy topcommenter

i have noticed, since this article, ABC 15 hasn't shown the commercial (that I've seen)

MaskedMagician1967
MaskedMagician1967 topcommenter

The Old Fool's newest delusion: that he was kidnapped while working for the DEA.

 

However, the DEA has shut the Geriatric Geezer up. They said he was never kidnapped.

 

Remember the bullshit RICO lawsuit Rachel Alexander signed off on?

 

Then there was the white powder scare...

 

There was also the time when the Old Fool claimed that an inmate wanted to "publicly assassinate" him...

 

There was also 432 uninvestigated sex crimes against children...

 

Just goes to show what happens when you employ a disgraced, corrupt, narcissistic old man in a position of power.

robert_graham
robert_graham topcommenter

A little bird has just told me that MCSO is about to do the largest workplace raid to date.  It is estimated that more than three hundred illegals will be removed from the Phoenix workforce shortly. Ha ha ha.  That means that at least 300 unemployed US citizens will then have jobs. Don't say I didn't tell you do.

fairymagic13
fairymagic13

The so-called "cover-up" in the Illegal Weapons Purchase Program, which involved a covert (as in SECRET) program to try and document - for purposes of prosecution - the use of U.S. Citizens as straw purchasers for drug lords and terrorists.  Sort of like the problems we had with the Reagan and Bush I selling illegal weapons to death squads in Central American and to Iran through Isreal in the late 1980s and early 1990s.  It's REALLY hard to prosecute these types of crimes without documentation that proves, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that the intent of the purchaser of the weapons is to pass them on to the criminals. 

 

Criminal prosecution does not depend on preponderance of the evidence.  Even one "doubt" of the guilt of a defendant can kill your case.  If your case fails, AFTER you've presented it - AFTER you've presented evidence of the SECRET program to try to uncover the facts of the case, you've blown whatever advantage you have.  The idea here was to discover and document the pathways of the criminal networks which traffice MILLIONS of weapons each year from the US arms manufacturing industry to people who mean the U.S. no good. 

 

The Drug Lords and Terrorists who rely on the US Straw Purchasers and the US Arms industry (also known as THE MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX), would love to have the "ins and outs" of the covert program so they could defeat the government's attempts to stop the flow of weapons to them. 

 

By insisting on release of classified information which would detail the names of agents involved, methods, and other tools of this surveilliance program - or even talking about it - the people doing so (politicians trying to whip up their gun nut voting base primarily) are traitors to this country's safety and security.  More guns in the hands of international drug smugglers and terrorists and warlords in other countries will not make the ability of our families to raise their children better happen - it will make it much harder to do so. 

 

I think that's how we should judge these types of activities - do they make it easier or harder to raise our children in a safe and secure nation.  If it doesn't pass that test, jettison it. 

 

Arpaio fails the test of making it safer for us to raise our children - he makes it harder.  Undocumented immigrants have always been with us, in fact Europeans were once "undocumented immigrants" at one time.  We need to accomodate them rather than criminalize them.  For our sakes, I would ask the author of this article and its readers to learn about the human instinctual trait of immigration and how it has shaped our world from time immemorial:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration

 

Ross
Ross

They sure have you fooled.  You really think that's the real Joe Arpaio, you see every day?  Have you noticed how he has never agreed to a DNA test?  Who you are dealing with here is Jose Pendejo, an Arpaio look-alike,  substituted for him when a Mexican mariachi gang took the real Arpaio 15 years ago, and is now forcing him to play viola in a Culiacan band. 

robert_graham
robert_graham topcommenter

Go on, keep crying us a river but you are wasting your time.  Constantly blasting Sheriff Arpaio just shows how desperate you liberals are getting that you'll say just about anything to help your candidate win.  But the truth is you are only hurting yourselves.  You people are the ones who are blind to our laws as you want to be able to circumvent them and you just cannot stand the fact that they are being enforced.  But even if Penzone does win, which would of course be by accident, he will still be required, by, law, to enforce "show me your papers" or be fired ASAP. Of course he would be closely monitored to be sure he is upholding the law.

robert_graham
robert_graham topcommenter

 @The_American_Nightmare But you seem to miss the point that ILLEGAL is ILLEGAL... period!!!!!!!!  Arpaio is enforcing the law. Why do you object to that, because you think that illegals' deserve a free pass?  It ain't gonna happen!!!!!

Flyer9753
Flyer9753 topcommenter

 @JoeArpaioFan 

 

1. I will believe that when I see that

2. How many US citizens will he arrest and detain this time?

3. Is he going to go after the employer who gave them the job? Or is he a Joe contributor (aka - briber) who will be ignored?

4. Has Joe already written his television appearance for this?

danzigsdaddy
danzigsdaddy topcommenter

 @JoeArpaioFan figure this one out nimrod, where would they possibly get the manpower to pull a raid like that? if they bring 100 MCSO deputies to try to arrest 20 people, they would have to call in the national guard to net 300. also there is no single buisness in the entire state of arizona that has 300 illegals working for them. not to mention you are avoiding that joe not only was never kidnapped, but he also ignores all other crimes just so he can go do his sweeps. you sit here and cry how joe is being slammed on, if your mother, sister, daughter, girlfreind or wife got raped and they ignored the case because they were busy doing a sweep, would you still be defending him? if you say yes, you are as big a liar as he is. BRING US PROOF THAT HE WAS KIDNAPPED!!!! turn on a t.v. and there is our proof that he is claiming it. PUT UP OR SHUT UP.  

fairymagic13
fairymagic13

@JoeArpaioFan

Umm.  I think that you are Mr. Lemons using an alias to inflate the numbers of comments to his blogs!  AM I RIGHT?  You obviously know that the way in which Phoenix New Times judges the popularity of their writers is by counting the number of comments posted after each article.  Your constant posting here with your troll taunts could only be interpreted as your intent to inflate the numbers of comments, therefore giving Mr. Lemons a higher comment count.  It's the only explanation - plus you're giving out updates and news that only Mr. Lemons would know.  I don't mind if you do that Mr. Lemons, it's your articles and I'm sure your bosses know you're doing this.  If I'm right, do I get a free glass of water at the New Times Building when I come down there to get my photo taken?

robert_graham
robert_graham topcommenter

 @fairymagic13 You are a moron.  I suppose you think that 9/11 never happened either don't you?

robert_graham
robert_graham topcommenter

 @fairymagic13 You are an idiot.  I suppose you want shoplifting to be legalized too or the sale of drugs?  Idiot, if Mexicans would only legally come here there would be no problem.  Your theory has no merit.

danzigsdaddy
danzigsdaddy topcommenter

 @Ross so thats who kidnapped him! well now we can put it to rest, he really was kidnapped after all. but as for the stand in, are you sure his name is pendejo or is that just how you translate arpaio into spanish?

danzigsdaddy
danzigsdaddy topcommenter

 @JoeArpaioFan so we are just blasting arpaio by pointing out his blatant lies? we arent blind to the law, joe is. proof positive are the el mirage rapes (that MCSO was the primary police force for). and no F@#$ing SH&* penzone will enforce the law. he has been and will continue to do so.

danzigsdaddy
danzigsdaddy topcommenter

 @JoeArpaioFan  so whats your deal? do you think its okay to have rapists and pedophiles everywhere as long as we cut down on illegal immigration? he has run the deadbeat dad deal for over 6 years and only netted 2000.  he has been chasing illegals for over 6 years and only gotten about 500. in less than 3 years he overlooked over 400 rapes and molestation IN 1 TOWN!!!! his failure rate is higher than his success rate. he has cost this county over a quarter billion dollars while only saving around a million in earnings from the jobs he opened up. he should be going after the people hiring the illegals also. if they had all these illegals, what makes you think they would have hired someone who was a citizen instead?

danzigsdaddy
danzigsdaddy topcommenter

 @JoeArpaioFan  he is not enforcing the law. he is picking and choosing what laws he wants to enforce, and ignoring the rest 

danzigsdaddy
danzigsdaddy topcommenter

 @JoeArpaioFan  so should arpaios ass for ignoring cases and lying to further his career.   KIDNAPPED MY ASS!  lying all the time joe, lying all the time 

robert_graham
robert_graham topcommenter

 @Flyer9753 (1) If MCSO arrests and detains US Citizens it is only because they had no paperwork to prove they were not illegal aliens.  Fact is many Hispanics who are here legally will purposely get stopped and refuse to cooperate therefore creating the scene themselves just to sue.

 

(2) Regardless if employers are held accountable the fact remains that those working at a particular business who are illegal are illegal must be removed and punished for identity theft.

 

(3) Joe doesn't need to waste precious television time saying this because it is a known fact and has already been expressed before.

 

(4) You are an idiot moron!

danzigsdaddy
danzigsdaddy topcommenter

 @Flyer9753  i dont know the answers to 1,2 or 3,but i got money riding on #4 being yes, and long ago 

MaskedMagician1967
MaskedMagician1967 topcommenter

 @danzigsdaddy With that put up or shut up remark, you sound a bit like MontyPug, our disgraceful county attorney...

robert_graham
robert_graham topcommenter

 @danzigsdaddy Stop blaming Joe, if you are worried about what might have happened in El Mirage, call the El Mirage Police Department.  Why would you blame Joe for something that may have happened in another jurisdiction?  he simply locks up who is brought to him so what is your fucking problem?

robert_graham
robert_graham topcommenter

 @fairymagic13  @JoeArpaioFan Let' see, first I am accused of being Sheriff Arpaio then I am accused of working for Arpaio and now I am being accused of being Mr. Lemons? How funny but no I am none of them.  But how can you accuse me of "troll taunts" when I speak the truth? You object to my posts because you too don't like the idea that illegals' are given free passes to violate our laws.  Well, you can go fuck yourself too.

MaskedMagician1967
MaskedMagician1967 topcommenter

 @JoeArpaioFan  You really are an idiot.

 

I have been to New York and the site of the former World Trade Center. I watched as 3,000 people were killed. Shut the fuck up asswipe.

danzigsdaddy
danzigsdaddy topcommenter

 @JoeArpaioFan  re-read the post you are replying to. you missed everything that was said. how in the hell you got what you did out of that can only be attributed to you being brain damaged. read that last paragraph a little closer. since your profile picture doesnt look like you are native i am assuming your relatives came over here against the wishes of the people who were here originally. that would make you a product of illegal immigrants. since "illegal immigrant" is something that was nonexistant about 100 years ago (as in people who came here with the governments consent) your family either had no right to be here according to the true natives of this continent (nor wanted here) or your family is very recent immigrants and really have no excuse to be trying to keep people from trying to come here.

fairymagic13
fairymagic13

 @JoeArpaioFan I am an idiot - I agree.  Compared to your huge intellect at least.  Thank you for helping me improve myself.  You know, the first step to admitting you have a problem is to admit it.  You kind words are very helpful in this regard.

 

No, I don't think shoplifting should be made legal.  However, the sale of drugs is legal, or at least the last time I picked up my wife's prescriptions at Walgreens I didn't get arrested, and Cop was RIGHT BEHIND ME in line at the prescription pick-up counter.

 

As for your wish for Mexicans to come in to the US legally, I think you have already got your wish granted.  Millions of Mexican citizens come into the United States each month to shop, vacation, do business, eat at great diners (like 5&DIner) and participate in our sporting events.  They are a great boon to local businesses in Arizona and many other states in the US, adding over 1 Trillion dollars to our Economy every year.Here's just one example of how your wish is coming truehttp://ebr.eller.arizona.edu/stories/2009/mexican_visitors_contribute.asp

 

The number of undocumented immigrants is a small fraction of those who come here from Mexico legally and spend a lot of money for our local businesses.  It's so nice that you are helping our local businesses by saying good things about Mexican people all the time.  Thank you.

 

BTW - The idea that the US Government agencies tasked with protecting us should not reveal their sources and methods of SECRET surveillance is not my idea - it's George Washington's.  He even wrote about how to keep secrets from the British and many of our brave soldiers and spys have died keeping our secrets from our enemies.  So, it's not my theory IDIOT!

MaskedMagician1967
MaskedMagician1967 topcommenter

 @bob_lablaw96  Bob, I said JAF looks like Rachel Alexander's fiance.

 

She is in fact straight. I've heard rumors in my part of town that she's hot for me. Apparently she thinks I'm the reincarnation of Jim Morrison, the Doors singer.

 

I've been waiting for her so we can go out on a date. 

danzigsdaddy
danzigsdaddy topcommenter

 @JoeArpaioFan  where is all your paperwork that states emphatically that you are NOT an illegal immigrant? according to you, even though you are a U.S. citizen, you should have that on you at all times. if you do not have it (and no U.S. citizen does) does that make you an illegal? you do not look caucasian, so you would fall under MCSO's "reasonable suspicion" of being an illegal. and hearing the way you go off on your rascist rants, i could just image how pissy you would get when they ask you "do you speak english Pedro? where is your paperwork?" because thats just how they approach most hispanics.   

bob_lablaw96
bob_lablaw96

 @JoeArpaioFan  @Flyer9753 JAF drizzles this same horsecrap on every story.  He is delusional, at best.

 

I doubt that he is Rachel's fiance, as I have heard that she is straight.  As for his other screams, that sometimes American citizens are arrested because they don't have their papers, I just throw up in a bucket and try to move beyond his idiocy.

 

JAF has the same attitude that his sperm donor, Joe Hairpieo has about civil rights.  What they both need to understand is that there is a right way, and a wrong way, to arrest and deport illegals.

 

I would almost rather see Obummer reelected than to see the Jokester get enough votes to drive us further into financial ruin.  I am on the edge on this, but I am so tired of that saggy assed piece of shit telling us whatever he hopes we will believe (I mean Arpaio here, but understand the possible confusion)

azweasel
azweasel

@JoeArpaioFan @Flyer9753 Somewhere in joearpaiofan land, a village has lost its idiot. Arpaio is a total fraud and you are the same old idiot with shit flowing out of your mouth.

danzigsdaddy
danzigsdaddy topcommenter

 @JoeArpaioFan  why are you still talking? you were supposed to be getting proof of joes kidnapping 

danzigsdaddy
danzigsdaddy topcommenter

 @JoeArpaioFan  if you are so into not letting illegals take americnan jobs, why isnt the people who are hiring them a problem? they evidently werent going to hire an american anyhow

Flyer9753
Flyer9753 topcommenter

 @JoeArpaioFan 

 

1. US Citizens are not required by any law to show "paperwork'

 

2. Nice attempt to dodge the question - why don't you answer it?

 

3. Then why does he waste precious television time whenever he can?

 

4. You would know seeing as how you are the king of idiots

MaskedMagician1967
MaskedMagician1967 topcommenter

 @danzigsdaddy MontyPug used that same remark when blasting the feds over their decision to sue us over the MCSO shurf and his racial-profiling ways...

 

I think PNT even has a story or two on it...

 

I really think JAF is disgraced, suspended, former deputy county attorney Rachel Alexander's fiance. He's unemployed, has 5 kids and can't feed them so he trolls PNT to drum up support for the MCSO shurf....

 

Lucky for the few of us that are sane we don't support the Geriatric Geezer....

danzigsdaddy
danzigsdaddy topcommenter

 @JoeArpaioFan illegal immigration isnt the only crime, nor is it the worst one happening under joes leadership. yet its the only one he is concerned with

danzigsdaddy
danzigsdaddy topcommenter

 @JoeArpaioFan he should be sending people out to stop those crimes that are under his jurisdiction (and they were) not just locking up whoever is brought to him. if he was as concerned with all crime as you say or looking out for kids as you say, he wouldnt pull cops off those cases. and thats my fucking problem nimrod, it should be yours too

fairymagic13
fairymagic13

 @JoeArpaioFan Why thank you for your polite response.  I take it you are NOT Mr. Lemons then, although you do not deny it in your post.  My term "Troll taunts" means, to me anyway, those posts which are designed to elicit a reaction from other posters, not for the furtherance of any positive goal, but only for the satisfaction of the troll having elicited a response. 

 

However, you appear to have missed my point.  In posting so many time, the troll, that's you, is assisting the author of the article by making the comment count rise considerably.  Again, is this your goal?  If not, there's not much more you are accomplishing in your endeavors here. 

 

Again, comment count is a prime determining factor in the success of an article written by writers at the Phoenix New Times.  It's kind of like voting for them - doesn't matter if your post agrees with the article or not, the fact that another comment clicked the ticker over - it counts.  So thank you for helping to make Mr. Lemons one of the most popular - and well paid I might add - writers at the Phoenix New Times.  Perhaps Mr. Lemons will give you a ride in that new Charger they bought him for going over the 400 comment mark on over 20 articles recently - ALL THANKS TO YOU!

 

danzigsdaddy
danzigsdaddy topcommenter

 its only truth in your mind. facts are what make truth. you and arpaio have yet to supply them

fairymagic13
fairymagic13

 @JoeArpaioFan You are? Well that's not what you wrote above.  What you wrote was "I suppose you want shoplifting to be legalized too or the sale of drugs."   There it is - what you wrote.  I guess you were incorrect in your meaning.  If you meant "illegal" drug in your sentence, then YES, you are correct.  I do wish that the government would remove some drugs which are now on the "Schedule I" specifically.  The reason for this is that, as a capitalist, I'm sure you understand the law of Supply and Demand.   If the supply of a product is suppressed by legislation for example, the price of the product will go up.  That makes the desire on the part of other capitalists to take higher and higher risks to produce and market the product because of the profits.  The more suppression of the product the more profit and the more risk one will endure in order to market the product.  For example, marijuana.  If Marijuana were to be removed from Schedule I of the Schedule of Controlled Substances, the prohibitions against the sale of the plant would be removed.   There would be little risk and therefore little profit.  If there were little or not profit, the fund necessary to pay for the growers, shippers, etc. would not be available and the market which had been artificially propped up by government interference would collapse.  It would be virtually impossible to buy marijuana on the street anymore.   Just one example Mr. Fan.Read more about this issue here:

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Removal_of_cannabis_from_Schedule_I_of_the_Controlled_Substances_Act

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