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Nowhey Jose

I think this type of video only makes people more wary of hysterical Hispanic ranting. That sort of vulgar name-calling is absolutely unacceptable. And it is NOT a new Arizona where people who are citizens are somehow in the wrong to say that people who are NOT citizens of the United States should have a say in anything. What a dumb way to try to make a point, Mr. Film-Maker.

Bobby

Couldn't agree more. Of course the point of the film, is to delagitimize citizens of Arizona. Or as is sometimes stated in similar contexts, the filmakers, "stated" purpose, is not his REAL purpose. I could film a gang of leftists, and make them look hatefull and as loony as I wan't to. That is why the great philosopher Plato, rejected Art as film is sometimes defined, as being twice removed from reality. After Gillman got through with this film, I'd call it 3X removed from reality.

Stand With Arizona

Wil Cardon - LOL...he is an open borders loser

Expert Shot

Open Borders? WTF are you talking about? The United States of America has had "Open Borders" since it's beginnings. It has NEVER had closed borders. If you are advocating for "Closed Borders", which you must be because you oppose Open Borders, you are friggin insane if you think that the conservatives in this state are going to go for such a "Liberal" idea. Remember, to change a policy such as the present Open Borders which the United States enjoys (close the borders and say goodbye to free trade and the benefits it provides our businesses) and has enjoyed since the beginning of our country would be a liberal move, not a conservative one. So, face it - you're a liberal. You claim you're a conservative but instead you are proposing liberal policies.
Why should we listen to you, in fact - why should YOU listen to YOU? Your hypocracy and double speak are insane!

Now, if you want to help reform our immigration laws so that less people from other countries feel compelled to enter this country with less than legal documented status, come back and play. Otherwise, go pound sand!

LD19 Resident

Typical fear-mongering Arizona Republicans.

They feel their power slipping away so they decide to spew hate-filled rhetoric in an attempt to dehumanize and criminalize Hispanics.

Why am I not surprised?

Expert Shot

Enter a fear-mongering Arizona Republican!

Bobby

Well, bro, let's assume your'e right. These Republicans are feeling their power slip away and are saying bad things about hispanics. I've read tons of Mexican(lets drop the hispanic pretense for a change) blogs, and even those in Spanish, translated for me by my Cuban girlfriend. Oh, yes. And she was amazed at how anti-white, anti-U.S., so many of them were, and she doesn't even care about politcs. The other side of the coin that you never bring up, is all of the hate-filled rhetoric of the Mexican power groups in Arizona and elsewhere. Everyone that's into these issues knows it, so please don't try to snow me, and save it for those ignorant Americans that are either clueless, or on the left or both. If hate is fine with them, in their quest to take power by breaking the law, why can't the people above feel the same way, use the same methods. The Mexican, or hispanic side of this issue, aren't all sweet and naive people, just trying to "do what's right." In fact, when pushing what those MAS classes have been teaching, they're trying to do what's wrong.

Expert Shot

First of all Bobby, there are no "white" people. "White" is not a race. It is a term ignorant fugks like you use to refer to people who have lighter skin color that other people. But, really, skin color has less importance to a person's "race" in the human genome than does whether that person is left or right handed.

It's a ridiculous notion to think that there is a white race - there is not. Now there have been people who have light skin who think they can get preferences over other people who have darker skin. Those people suck NOW, BEFORE and when they imported slaves into this country to do their work or killed the indigenous peoples of this land because they thought the darker the skin the less human a person is.

We know better now, so - grow up and join the human race. I feel sorry for people of any color skin who think that the person's color is not as important than what color shite comes out of the asshole, but you know what - there's gonna be assholes in this world - don't be one of them.

BTW - I doubt very much that the hate-speech has much to do about the color of skin and has a LOT to do with the color of the policies of the Governments of the United States in dealing with immigration, trade, and illegal drugs.

Bobby

No, it is a term ignorant FUCKS, like YOU, use.

PTCGAZ

you of course realize that the Spanish spoken in Cuba is different than the Spanish in Mexico right?

Bobby

Cool, really cool. Sal Reza has competition with a Republican look alike. You guys have been less than honest about what's going on in Arizona. I knew there were Mexicans that cared, that know how great Arizona used to be. They lived it. Young folks, have been told lie after lie, by the democrat left, just to get cheap votes. Peace, meats. peace.

...........though you may not drive, a great big Cadillac Gangsta whitewalls tv antenna in the back, you may not have a car at allll , but just remember brothers and sisters, you can still stand tall........................

Dennis Gilman

Show us some evidence Bobby. This is the Arizona Republican Party. What group are you comparing the hate, racism and homophobia to? Simply claiming that Mexicans do it to becuase you claim you read it somewhere hardly compares to the republican party with the super majority, making more crazy laws, chasing Obama's Birth certificate (while the rest of the Nations's wacko's have moved on) Are you so stupid as to believe that Art Olivas and Russell Pearce will attract the Latino vote?

PTCGAZ

oh yeah and one last thing Bobby, I do own a car. I drive my 1998 Honda Civic that I bought new in 1998, and have the title to. You see Bobby, I may not be employed while I go to school, but I did have jobs before AND when I have my jobs I can buy things like cars and PAY for them. SO STFU.

Bobby

Alright bro, calm down. I wasn't addressing you in particular, just trying to spread a little Curtis Mayfield type love around.

PTCGAZ

why should I calm down? you are the one that is being a fucktard.

PTCGAZ

well, if you remember back in history to 1979, when I was 1 year old, when Don Bolles got killed I think you can say that people of my generation that lived here grew up with Republican hatred, hypocrisy and idiotic politics, which includes murdering reporters who have dirt on you.

FormerRepublican

Stephen Lemons, Great reporting. You nailed it.

Pastdaj

Looks like the sheriff likes Mexican food, I'm sure chorizo is his favorite, HAY!

Pastdaj

Babeu doesn't like Mexicans in the US, but he does in his ***.

DrugstoreTruckDrivinMan

For all their phony patriotism the only thing this country means to these hate filled pieces of trash is an opportunity to steal and what they really use The Constitution for is toilet paper.

Bobby

It's possible, but so have the Presidents, Bush, Clinton, Obama, Bush sr., and that's where the root of all of this comes from. The next question is, Are you too clueless to see this, that it's all drivin from above. Could it be that the agendas are different, yet both might be unconsititutional? Friend, that is the kind of crap that happens, WHEN YOU CHERRY PICK WHICH LAWS YOU WANT TO OBEY AND WHICH YOU DON'T. Think about that for a while, and you will make severl important clarifying connections that will enlighten you as to why we are where we are today--again, disrespect for and a cavailier attiutde towards the laws, just what the elite need to get away with what the things they get away with. Things much more serious, murderous in fact, to your average human being.

PTCGAZ

are you suggesting that Clinton, and Obama used the Constitution for Toilet Paper? I sure seem to remember most people were much happier when Clinton was in office. IT was refreshing after Reagen was president.

Dennis Gilman

Clinton raised taxes ion the rich and YES-it did have a positive effect on the economy. Both the weathiest and the middle class did better. The times when America has been its strongest was always when the rich were paying there fair share. So you are wrong again Bobby (as ussual)

PTCGAZ

I will too give Clinton shit loads of credit. He ended the Reaganomics which almost ruined our country. Why is it that whenever there is a republican out country almost dies?

Bobby

Times in the U.S. were economically better when Clinton was President for some people, but it had not one tiny thing to do with that clown. His presidency literally started at the same time that the public internet did. This created many real jobs that employed a lot of people, and an equal number of non-jobs, that is, IPO offerings, that pushed the stock markets to the stars, simply because of all the investment cash in new businesses, a majority of which were based on unsound principles. All of those worthless businesses created by speculators, went bust, one after the other while Clintons second term was ending. That left Bush, with reduced political capital. Of course, and his neo-con administration, then criminally lied to Americans and it continues today. So don't give Billy, the Bomber of the ancient Christian Capitol of Serbia Clinton, any credit.

Bnbk

Great job,once again Dennis !

PTCGAZ

agreed. I enjoyed the video.

DrugstoreTruckDrivinMan

We have a simple definition of Repubs at our place. Those that either have committed a criminal act or will in the future.

Bobby

So I guess your stance on all of the B.S. wars, that got Bush labeled and rightly so, a criminal, is one of approval now that Obama and the Democrats are in charge. Sounds like a very selective view of criminality, wouldn't you say?

Wbee73

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Bobby, What the heck are you talking about? Your comments aren't even making sense dude.

PTCGAZ

so basically what you are saying is that Obama inherited Dubya's mess.

Bobby

But he did promise to end them, Remember bro, in his campaign speech. What happened? But the GOP isn't in power bro, Obama and the Democrats are, Right? You can't have it both ways. I realize Obama will be re-elected, and then I will get back to you when he finally stops all the B.S. wars, but don't hold your breath in the meantime. Peace.

PTCGAZ

what do you mean? Obama didn't start the illegal wars in the middle east. Even right-wingers have to agree that the wars in Iraq are not real wars. We illegally invaded Iraq, Afghanistan and the GOP wanted to invade Iran as well.

Bobby

Well the genius known as DrugstoreTruckDrivinMan, was defining Republicans as criminals and I just proved to him that the Democrats are apparently their best students.

PTCGAZ

Fuck you Chad, I hope you get buried in a landslide next election!

PTCGAZ

Did that jackass mother fucker NAZI from Yavapai county realize that Most people here Do not agree with his stupid assessment of AZ, or his idea of what the Constitution is?

Bobby

There are millions, I mean millions of solid, and sound thinking Ameriacan citizens, of every culture in the U.S. that have an alternative view of Arizona, from yours. To many of them Arizona is a beacon of light, in a United States that is increasingly going towards a humongous, all encompassing leviathan, that wants to control every aspect of Americans lives. They don't want dissent from their obvious agenda to put every American into their animal farm. So, Arizona stands alone, intrepid, brave, unafraid, by saying the buck stops here for you totalitarian ideologes. Our message to you Leviathan is, We will enforce our border laws, we will not allow Racist classess, taught by communist, or ethnic supremacist teachers who try and shape young minds to hate the nation they are growing up in and being educated in, because that's evil,etc. We will reject, says Arizona, politicians who call for boycotts, ruinous to Arizona's small business people, many of whom had family businesses for a hundred years serving Arizona's people faithfully. Arizona is saying, We are going to be a "nail in the knee" to you Leviathan, we are not going down in the face of your constant threats to our defending ourselves against your open borders, and other agendas. That's how millions of Americans see Arizona now, a state that is now drawing a line in the SAND, no pun intended.

PTCGAZ

you are right Arizona stands alone as the new third Reich where a bunch of ignorant brainwashed fucking fools like yourself think that you can bully the local population and fail to follow the Constitution. WELL GUESS what not all of us are stupid like you.

Expert Shot

Where did Marx get the idea for the government to take from people who have money and give it to those who don't? Oh, yeah - the US Constitution!!!
Don't you think that the man who helped take down the largest Monarchy in the world might have been at least a little influenced by our founder's thoughts as reflected in the U.S. Constitution?

There's proof:
http://www.marxists.org/archiv...

Stop trying to scare people with your fear-mongering. Our country's constitution encouraged the revolution against an absolute monarchy in Prussia and is the basis of much of the thought on the struggle between the working stiffs and the wealthy and corporate investors who want to try to get as much "bang" for the buck in purchasing labor inputs to their industry as possible.

Problem is, this exploitation of workers is the cause of civil unrest, fluxuation in the economic cycles and economic depressions. The more the workers are paid, the less strife and the more all people are lifted up.

Dennis Gilman

LD 18 was considered the most conservative district in the State. The majority said ENOUGH and voted out Pearce. Obama is tied in Arizona with Romney or any other of the assclowns on the ticket. Get your facts right Bobby.

Bobby

I don't think it's the laughing stock of the U.S. I have lived and traveled through the Southwest for many years. I never heard of Arizona being described as a laughingstock, but I do know that milliions of people in Europe and around the world including the rest of the U.S. visit the Grand Canyon and other historical places. I do agree with you that there seems to be a lot of white weirdo's in Arizona, but I don't include myself as being like them. Many are on drugs, and I have never taken drugs in my life, nor do I own a gun. I could continue trying to reason with you as to why things like those MAS classes, and other subjects are outright insane, but what would be the use. I will tell you and others this, and have a clear conscience in saying it, I care more for those hispanic/Mexican kids than you people do, who believe they should be indoctrinated with utter crap, that is only going to badly skew their view of the United States, as well as many white people, that those MAS classes berate, and who actually do care about their fate in life, as you people, in my opinion, really don't. The teaching of Marxist ideology has a place, in philosophy classes. The teaching of it to impressionable minds by teachers who have a Grand Canyon size chip on their shoulders towards white people, and this nations history, is criminal.

PTCGAZ

what trouble making is that?

AND AZ is full of the stupidest people I have ever met. I have been in a bunch of states. I was born in Ohio, lived in PA, visited all the states on the Eastern Seaboard, been through most of the midwest and have traveled around, and AZ is the dumbest state I have ever been in. The people here are stupid, just like you.

BTW what informed Americans are you talking about? you realize that AZ is the laughingstock of the US right?

Bobby

The problem with your argument is that aside from all the trouble making you guys do in Arizona, most Arizonans, and most informed Americans, that know what the issues are ARE NOT, on your side.

Jenny234

Politics aside, whoever made this video is an absolute a$$. I'm not pro Dem or pro Rep but the bullsh*t editing to only include a sentence here or there was pathetic. Now if the videographer is pro Dem or just anti these particular men then I'll give you credit for effort. Still propaganda though!

Bobby

Ahhhhhhhhhh, a very perceptive American, one immune to the techniques created by people like Edward Bernays, etc. There is hope.

Dennis Gilman

Bobby. I can't find one thing taken out of context or you would be all over yourself posting it. if you are so into these clowns you can find the entire thing up somewhere. Google it. There were a few people filming. One is an over weight blond lady whose teeth look like they could benefit from some Universal Health care coverage. She posts her crap on republican blogs. She's a point smarter then you but that is no compliment for either of you. Go find those videos and come back when you actually have something intelligent to post.

Bobby

Thanks for replying Dennis, but they are all over u-tube, unfortunatley for those who claimed, "nothing of the kind was going on."

Dennis Gilman

Would you watch a 2 hour video? They said it and they will stand by every word. None are taken out of context. You can't explain away hate. That who they are and what they do. If you want an ad for the republican party watch fox.

FormerRepublican

Dennis Gilman, Well said. You've documented this shameful chapter of Arizona's history that will last for all eternity. Your courage is to be commended. Without the films and the Stephen Lemons articles and blogs, the decades long status quo would remain. You've unearthed the rat's nest that is Arizona and its corrupt rulers.

Dennis Gilman

Bobby,
You can't just change the subject , create a new topic and then claim you won an argument. It's weird and doesn't make sense. But MAS has already been working
well in Tucson since the 70's and it did, in fact, help create model citizens who do have compasion, understanding and love for for equality. The anti-MAS folks that had the independent study of the program ignored the results of their own study as soon as they saw it. Students go on to higher education and become successful at a higher rate. The program worked and thats the real issue with fear-based racists such as yourself. So you are wrong again. As for "secret" videos taken and then pulled off YT, take the tin fiol hat off Bobby. It never happened.

Bnbk

No Dennis he doesn't,he just regurgitates the same old bullcrap.

Bobby

Millions of Americans saw and HEARD, the asshole in one of the racist MAS classes, teaching his reconquista, Arizona and other states belong to Mexico, type bullshit, and you clowns can put any spin on it you want. If your goal is the disenfrancisement of thousands of young minds from the nation and state they are growing up in and getting educated in, by forcing them to listen to that crap, THEN KEEP GOING, YOUR'E ON THE RIGHT TRACK, AS YOU HAVE BEEN FOR YEARS. What happens after they get indoctrinated with that crap, huh geniuses? Do you imagine then that they will become model citizens and love everyone equally? Of course you don't, that's not why you morons are so engaged in this sick stuff. You have an obvious agenda.

Dennis Gilman

Again Bobby-you aren't making sense. YT isn't removing videos of the Az State Republican Committee meeting. Take off the tin foil hat. Your consistent about one thing-avoiding the topic or the truth. You lack the ability to defend your views so you just change the topic from comment to comment. That doesn't work anymore.

PTCGAZ

and I have seen the ones that show the truth in AZ get taken down. REALLY quick, find the Del Webb protests. I bet you can't find them. I tried several times to find them since a dumbass like you didn't believe that they existed. In fact it might have been you.

PTCGAZ

lol he feels abused because he can't take the pressure of knowing he's ignorant and spends his time making shit up on a blog. I don't spend much time here, I do read all the articles of course and make plenty of comments, but I am very busy. I got my cacti to take care of, my classes to go to, and my on-line games to play.

Bobby

That bother you Gillman, that whites could be as offended by racism exhibited against them as other groups claim to be? You have a problem with that Senor Gilman?

Bobby

If U-tube removed those video's it isn't proof they werent there, unless millions of Americans have been hallucinating, rather, it just goes to show U-tubes politics. I have noticed hundreds of B.S. videos of the kind where Brewer has a mustache,and similar crap that proves absolutely nothing.

Dennis Gilman

In fact I'm not the only one who couldn't find all the nonsense you claim was taught in MAS. Tax dollars did go to an investigation and found the program was a model for the Nation. Do you remember who called for that investigation? Do you ever think before you post?

Bobby

Now who's lying Dennis? They were there and unknown to those arrogant jerks, being quietly filmed. It was and is all over U-tube.

Dennis Gilman

Thats because they aren't there. I can't film it if I can't find it. Poor white boy feels abused?

Bobby

Too bad Gilman, in my opinion, didn't "document" the anti-White, anti' U.S. racist rants in a lot of those MAS classes given at taxpayers expense,(many of the taxpayers whom the classes were dissing) by those Mexican "Trotskyite" teachers. All those "educators" were missing was the round glasses. But that's not the kind of service or work that interests him, I guess.