Jan Brewer's Personal Army? SB 1495 Paves the Way

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Senator Allen: Pawn of the feds?

Do you think Governor Jan Brewer, or any Arizona governor from this point on, should have a volunteer military force that she can call up and use for any purpose whatsoever?

Well, that's what the governor would have if Senate Bill 1495 becomes law: A blank check to establish a "state guard" that would do her bidding, whatever that bidding might be.

Where are Arizona's Libertarians when you need them? Ernie Hancock and the folks over at Freedom's Phoenix should be raising bloody Cain right now.

Under statute, the governor can already call up a state guard under an emergency situation where the state National Guard has been called into active service by the feds. 

But some Republicans, in both the Senate and the House, want to include a phrase that allows the governor to call up a state guard, "for any other reason the governor considers to be necessary."

Both the left and the right should be worried about such broad language. If you're on the right, you may love the idea of Brewer being able to call up a force of irregulars populated by militia members. But what if Janet Napolitano was still governor? Would it sit well with you then?

The left will naturally be concerned that a Brewer Brigade will include wackos such as recently convicted murderess and militiawoman Shawna Forde, who would have leapt at the chance to join such a government-backed enterprise, one where the state will pick up the tab for food, shelter, and liability, should someone shoot the wrong person.

Actually, I would contend that even militia types should be skeptical of this measure for numerous reasons. 

Currently, you can have your own group of irregulars that can go out into the desert and patrol with your long guns, just as neo-Nazi J.T. Ready does with his U.S. Border Guard. No law against it.

So why would you want to give up that freedom of operation to be a part of a government entity, that will, inevitably, take all of your personal information, run a background check on you, and even keep an electronic file stored somewhere with your name on it?

Plus, the federal government and the state of Arizona exchange a lot of information, like, say, with the National Guard itself. How do you know that information on the state guard will not make its way into federal hands?

As militias members themselves are aware, both local and federal law enforcement officers regularly infiltrate their groups to gather intelligence on them. But if militia members are part of a state guard and have to cough up their Social Security numbers and allegiances, infiltration won't be necessary. 

Crikey, if I were inclined to conspiracy theories, I might think the FBI helped Senator Sylvia Allen, the primary sponsor of the bill, concoct this slippery slope into tyranny.

So far, it's mainly been the lefty Border Action Network that's been raising the alarm. BAN's concerned about right-wing extremists being part of state guard.  

But some GOPers have problems with it as well. Republican state Senator Frank Antenori voted to pass SB 1495 out of the Allen-chaired Border Security committee, but he was rightly worried by the language and said he would vote against it on the Senate floor. 

And Antenori, he ain't no liberal.

Another concern, there's no money appropriated for the governor's personal army, and no one has any idea how much it could cost, particularly if the Sunday soldiers who enlist start keeling over of heart attacks or killing people by accident, thus leading to lawsuits.

There's still time to call your state Senator, but you better get on it. It was originally to be voted on in the Senate today, but it looks like it's been pulled. In any case, you can find all the Senate phone numbers, here.

There's also a House version, HB 2070. State Representative Jack Harper's more extensive version of the same idea got replaced in a strikeall amendment for the language in the Senate version. (Sniff, poor Jack.) The House version could move at any time. You can find the info for your Representatives, here.

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rockdog48
rockdog48

God bless the gov.  Az. needs the SG now more than ever, especially with the cartels to our South and the evil empire of Obama to the North. 

Graymatr007
Graymatr007 like.author.displayName 1 Like

Alaska has a State Defense Force which is constitutionally provided for. States have the right to create militias and appoint the governor as commander and chief of said forces, when deemed appropriate. This is not a new idea and is not as dangerous as some tend to think...

Tellthetruth
Tellthetruth like.author.displayName 1 Like

22 states have their own state guard. This is non-news bullshit by a clearly anti-Brewer crowd at newfishwrap.com

donttreadonme
donttreadonme

Defenders of liberty will not organize under the banner of "government". It isn't needed and completely counter intuitive. The endorsement of the state is the last thing lovers of freedom want. Staying "unorganized" is the key.

BLESSEDONE333
BLESSEDONE333 like.author.displayName 1 Like

TYPICAL PAGAN MORON RANTS ... "Under statute, the governor can already call up a state guard under an emergency situation where the state National Guard has been called into active service by the feds."

HAHAHAHAHA YOU ARE SO STUPID YOU DON'T EVEN REALIZE HOW DUMB YOU SOUND! YOU BASICALLY SAID - THE GOVERNOR CAN CALL UP FEDERAL EMPLOYEES TO BE STATE POLICEHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHDAMN YOU PROGRESSIVES ARE GOOD FOR NOTHING!

WHEN THE WORLD SHAKES BENEATH YOUR FEET AND THE CHINESE AND MEXICANS COME UP FROM THE SOUTH IT WILL BE YOU PAGANS WHO CRY OUT FOR A STATE MILITIA

REPENT - TIME IS SHORT FOR YOU PROGRESSIVE LIBERALS

Tellthetruth
Tellthetruth like.author.displayName 1 Like

New Times, please learn to read English: It doesn't say the state guard would be for whatever reason the governor considers necessary.

"If the national guard of Arizona or a major portion thereof is called into active federal service, or if the national guard or a major portion thereof is alerted for federal service OR FOR ANY OTHER REASON THE GOVERNOR CONSIDERS TO BE NECESSARY, the governor may establish an armed force for the safety and protection of the lives and property of the citizens of the state which shall be known as the Arizona state guard."

Stop distorting the truth.

rockdog48
rockdog48

@Tellthetruth The New Times is nothing more than a liberal rag that propagates the uber left agenda.  Most are members of the Socialist party with a few actually claiming to be Communist.  Traitors that will be dealt with when their usurper the illegal alien Ovomit declares martial law this summer. 

Tellthetruth
Tellthetruth like.author.displayName 1 Like

New Times, you are misleading. It says IF the national guard is called for whatever reason the governor deems necessary THEN the governor can establish an armed state force to protect the lives and property of the citizens of the state. Stop distorting the facts.

Tellthetruth
Tellthetruth like.author.displayName 1 Like

New Times, you are misleading. It says IF the national guard is called for whatever reason the governor deems necessary THEN the governor can establish an armed state force to protect the lives and property of the citizens of the state. Stop distorting the facts.

Peggy Lang
Peggy Lang

We already have a National Guard and it's legal...NO YOU CAN NOT HAVE YOUR OWN ARMY!

HD11
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As a matter of fact, there already IS an Alabama State Defense Force, one that George Wallace could have called up at that time, but Wallace chose not to.

http://www.sdf.alabama.gov

"The ASDF is under the control of the Governor of Alabama, who serves as the state's Commander in Chief."

Wallace, however, understood that taking a symbolic stand outside of that Auditorium was nothing more than political posturing. He never considered using military force.

There are 23 states that have had their own State Defense Forces since at least WW2. At no time in their long history has any Governor ever even remotely considered deploying those State Defense Forces against federal troops. Even the suggestion that a Governor COULD have done so is sheer nonsense and pure propaganda.

Case Closed on that stupid supposition. You had better check your facts and your history the next time you come up with that kind of specious reasoning.

Is that all you got?

WillCro
WillCro like.author.displayName 1 Like

Well stated. A lot of people tend to forget the legalities and just speak from their own fears and opinions of what might be, shame as they are the problem in this country today.

JT Ready
JT Ready like.author.displayName 1 Like

To say that a governor could not activate his or her state militia against federalized troops is patently false. Typing in all caps is imbecilic and proves nothing. Clearly, federal troops have been used to usurp Constitutional restrictions on numerous occasions inside CONUS. In 1993 Waco, Texas for instance, Delta Force (Combat Applications Group) commandos were used contrary to the Posse Comitatus Act and deployed against civilians not convicted of any crime and with no Marshall Law being declared. This resulted in the horrific death of scores of unarmed elderly, women, and children. Likewise, Delta Force has been deployed in the Atlanta prison riots of 1987. At any time a governor would have had the authority to intervene.

With all the rhetoric flying around about the 10th Amendment state's rights and the Tea Party secessionist fervor, it is wholly possible that a future conflagration between federal troops and a state's militia is at least feasible. Perhaps it is you who should study American history a bit more. Such scenarios are well documented as an integral part of the fabric of America. State's (Colonists) versus Federal (King's) troops during the War of Independence are well founded in reality. The echoes of gunshots circa 1775 at Lexington and Concord have not quite faded from memory for those with a knowledge of history either.

Likewise, for a putsch to take place, a charismatic governor would only need a state militia to physically achieve a coup. Conversely, a military junta could emerge during civil unrest. Examples of this have spanned the world over. And not just in third-world countries. So stop being insulting and stick to the relevant fact that in our turbulent times, we should at least examine all the possibilities when deciding upon a state milita or not.

HD11
HD11

Typing in caps to emphasize a particular word, in a venue where one cannot use italics, is perfectly acceptable. It's not ALL caps, its one or two WORDS in caps.

Besides, you don't get to dictate anyone else's blog-posting ettiquette. Totalitarian mindsets seem to be a trend among Libtard "Control Freaks", don't they?

What is REALLY imbecelic is to say that troops under the command of a State's Governor would be turned into some sort of "Praetorian Guard" because of the emergence of the Tea Party. Following that kind of "logic", then the 2008 sweep of the Presidency and both Houses of Congress by the Libtards should have resulted in the establishment of an Obamunist "civilian security force" modeled on Stalin's NKVD. Didn't happen.

All of the examples you cited were of FEDERAL abuse of power, not states, and certainly not State Defense Forces.

Using the example of an ad-hoc militias engaged in hasty combat against the forces of a tyrant king 200 years ago in Concord and Lexington is REALLY grasping at straws, don't you think? Having studied a bit more of history than you apparently have, I can confidently say that this is about as far away from what we are discussing here as you can possibly get. This is like comparing apples and Winnebagos.

Since any State Defense Force would be made up of the same Citizen-soldiers as the National Guard has been, then why wouldn't your imagined scenario come about by a Governor utilizing a National Guard that had been corrupted into mutiny against the Feds by the "evil geniuses" of the Tea Party? Either could be just as easily argued.

There are 23 states that have activated their State Defense Forces. At no time during any of the past 70 years of MODERN history have any of them done anything remotely like what your fevered imaginings have conjured up out of whole cloth.

Your position is so weak that you have to make up scenarios that must be "imagined". You are not arguing your position based upon anything in reality, you are struggling AGAINST reality.

On one hand, we have facts, law, and history. On the other we have your imagined scenarios and unreasoned paranoia. Looks like you have certainly made your choice between the two.

Everyone else, take a look at the facts and make your own choices. Make some choices that don't rely on imaginary scenarios.

There are plenty of in-depth studies of the facts, history, and law surrounding State Defense Forces. All of them point to the fact that these SDFs could and should be used as "force multipliers" in SUPPORT of the National Guard and of the security of a state's Citizens and property.

State Defense Forces and Homeland Security - Heritage Foundation, October 8, 2010 by James Carafano, Ph.D. and Jessica Zuckermanhttp://www.heritage.org/resear...

Expanding the Use of State Defense Forces in Homeland Defense Missions, November 01, 2003 by LTC Brent C. Bankus, Senior National Guard Advisor, Strategic Studies Institute, US Army War Collegehttp://www.strategicstudiesins...

The latter of the above two studies was undertaken by the U.S. Army War College. I don't think that they would have published a study favoring the State Defense Forces if they envisioned any kind of whacked-out scenario where the Army would end up in combat against them.

Such a suggestion is nothing but pure Bovine Scatology.

JT Ready
JT Ready like.author.displayName 1 Like

So now I am a "libtard"? Ha. Cute. Nice new moniker to add to my collection. The funny thing is, both the left and the right are guilty of creating institutions capable of usurping Constitutional provisions so long as it is their favorite party who is in power at that particular moment. What we end up with is erosions of our rights which nobody had the integrity to stand up against until it became too late to correct them without unintended consequences already becoming manifest. Do not assume to be an expert on quashing speculative arguments simply by regurgitating other people's studies and brashly calling people childish names on an Internet blog. You only expose yourself as a well-educated fool.

HD11
HD11

The bill in the Arizona State Senate, SB 1495, that would activate the Arizona State Guard, has moved out of committee and towards a vote on the Senate Floor as of Thursday 17 February 2011 .

Under Title 32 of the US Code, states are authorized to raise their own State Defense Forces (SDFs) , either as a part of their state's National Guard or as a separate command. The big difference is that SDF soldiers don't get paid for their weekend training, and the SDF cannot be called into federal service, as the National Guard has been.

While there are already 23 states that have activated their State Defense Forces under Title 32 of the US Code, the last thing that the Marxist pro-criminal alien groups want to see is for Arizona to become the 24th.

Strangely, the only "media" who have even mentioned this bill have been the usual leftist misfits of the print news, who are having litters of little yellow lizards over the prospect of the Governor of Arizona raising a "private army". The misinformation and propaganda campaign of the left has already begun, before a single mention of this has been made on the "evil" FOX News !

This tells us that the leftist misfits are scared, and that they are scared because they know that the Arizona State Guard would be successful in securing our southern border.

There have already been two Congressional reports about our southern border, and both have concluded that State Defense Forces should be EXPANDED and tasked with securing our border:

Results and Implications of the Minuteman ProjectUnited States Congress, Immigration Reform Caucus Report, June 2005http://l.b5z.net/i/u/6061741/i...

Broken Neighbor, Broken BorderUnited States Congress, House Immigration Reform Caucus Report, November 2010http://carter.house.gov/upload...

State Guard soldiers would not be "untrained" people, as the leftist propanda mills would like for you to falsely believe. They would be the same soldiers that you find today in the National Guard, but they could NOT be sent outside of our state. They would be committed to remaining inside the state of Arizona, working to protect the lives and property of Arizona Citizens.

There are plenty of studies and articles about the legality and history of Title 32 State Defense Forces, and you can find most of them online at http://www.arizonastateguard.c... .

Don't allow the leftist propaganda mills to do your thinking for you. Study the facts, and make up your own mind to choose to react with either a) reason or b) emotion. At the very least, make yours an informed choice.

Now is the time to "Put Up Our Guard" in defense of Arizona !

JT Ready
JT Ready

"Under Title 32 of the US Code, states are authorized to raise their own State Defense Forces (SDFs) , either as a part of their state's National Guard or as a separate command." -HD11

A lesson from history:

"On June 11, with temperatures soaring, a large contingent of national media looked on as Wallace took his position in front of Foster Auditorium. State troopers surrounded the building. Then, flanked by federal marshals, Deputy Attorney General Nicholas Katzenbach told Wallace he simply wanted him to abide by the federal court order.

Wallace refused, citing the constitutional right of states to operate public schools, colleges and universities. Katzenbach called President Kennedy, who federalized the Alabama National Guard to help with the crisis. Ultimately, Wallace stepped aside and the two students were allowed to register for classes." Source: http://www.npr.org/2003/06/11/...

Imagine if Wallace had his own State Guard with a command separate from the National Guard which could not be federalized...

CRUZZER
CRUZZER

I hope I am "JEDI" enough to fight against "this ARMY" that she wants to build for "THE REPUBLIC" The Sith is very powerful in Arizona.

JT Ready
JT Ready

Mexicans are more akin to Jawas than Jedis. Lol

WTF???
WTF???

Wonderful!

A bunch of fanatical teatards running around the streets with guns under the command of Jan Brewer of all people. I hear this and just have to think, ok this just sounds like a bad idea.

Congratulations AZ. yet again we prove that we just just love vote right wing nutcases into power.

JT Ready
JT Ready

The Texas Militia were just ordered to leave Vekol Valley by the Border Patrol due to their foolish shenanigans. I believe KPHO is going to do a story on their "firefight". All we need is more Rambo wannabees running around the desert trying to shoot Messcuns and tripping up legitimate law enforcement operations. And all these paranoid militia types are hardly going to rush to sign their names on a government sponsored list which they think will land them in a FEMA re-education camp quicker than it takes to pop off a magazine of rounds at two-legged brown targets at a Food City tamale sale.

What we need is for Sheriff Baboon and Governor drinks too much Brewer to stop blaming President Obama all the time and point their fingers at themselves in the mirror for a change. Skinhead Baboon needs to helo his SWAT team on top of the narco spotter hills. (If they even have the balls to) And alcoholic Brewer needs to send the Nasty Guard to the desert as state Commander In Chief already instead of waiting around for federal troops which will never show up. In the meantime, only the neighborhood Nazis seem to be doing it right out here. Now that should be an embarrassment for all of Arizona's so-called "leadership". Sieg Smile! www.flickr.com/USBorderGuard

Hadji_dont_surf
Hadji_dont_surf

There were no shenanigans. Cartel shot st us and we shot back. Nobody asked us to leave.As a matter of fact Bortac patrolled out with us to look at some Intel. And then welcomed us to stay and operate.Get your facts right buddy. I know for a fact BLM is not happy about your presence there. But that didn't phase us, we knew you were wanting to stop cartel as bad as us.Why would you harp on fellow patriots trying to stop cartel activity in your country?

Gillie
Gillie

To:Hadji_dont_surf  After taking a good look at the ranch house in Vekol Valley and gathering info on the incident, it is clear that there was no gunfight.  Approximately ten rounds were fired "incoming."  Some shot reports were reported to have been coming from the South-West and then subsequently from the South-East.  The reports were loud and could not have been coming from greater than five-hundred meters away.  About four-hundred rounds were fired in return by the militia occupying the ranch house, without orders to do so.  Several 7.62x39mm brass casings from inside the North-East wall of the ranch house were recovered.  NO bullet holes were observed on the ranch house.  I repeat, the large target of the ranch house was not struck by incoming gunfire.  A small outer structure to the North-West, which was not in the direction of the reported gunfire, was hit with approx fifty rounds of 5.56 and 7.62 from the direction of the ranch house.  When a person who was present during the incident was questioned as to the sound of the bullets passing overhead, he indicated a low buzzing sound.  This would mean the rounds were passing at sub sonic speeds.  Anyone who has been in combat, or even just a KD range in the Army with a target change out pit will tell you that AR type rounds make a sound like “tishhh, tishhh” when passing directly overhead or nearby.  This is a supersonic crack, as should be expected.  The low buzzing sound is indicative of rounds that have already struck a target, have lost velocity and are heading somewhat vertically and away from the listener. 

Most likely scenario:  There is a wash to the West and North-West behind the afore mentioned outer structure.  A target shooter was shooting an AR into the South-East wall of the wash, in the direction of the ranch house.  The target rounds were ricocheting off rocks and scattering above and AWAY FROM the ranch house.  If this were the case, than the target shooter stood a good chance of being shot by members of the militia in the ranch house during the return fire.  Luckily he/she did not panic and run up the opposite wash wall as he/she would have probably been shot from behind.  Sorry guys, no glorious gun battle. 

And please do not chamber rounds while on these operations.  I have seen the gouge in the concrete that was caused by an “accidental” discharge from one of your members.  It is circled in marker and initialed by the commando who fired it.  I understand that this the second accidental discharge from members of your group.  We here in AZ appreciate your help, but please learn to handle firearms safely or do not return.

XSoldier
XSoldier

Quit comparing baboons to the Pinal County sheriff. They are smarter than the brainless, bald-headed butt buddy of the Flaccid Fool of MCSO.

rainy
rainy

yes, it's called a militia

Mmetzger47
Mmetzger47

Well then I guess the people will just have to build their own guard also, come to my door and see what happens !

XSoldier
XSoldier

Governor Jan Brewer already has authority under state law to summon the National Guard. Why would she need a law like this one?

I know why. It's because the clueless, dim-witted Republicans, as usual, are afraid of riots and for the citizens calling for their heads and they need the military to protect them once in their lair.

I suspect that Brewer would abuse the statute when the citizens protest her signing more illegal-immigrant bills like 1070 and then claim immunity simply because she's the guv. Just take a look at Senator Bundgaard.........

anon
anon

XSoldier, You hit the nail on the head. Pearce shut the public out of their Senate house. What's next?

XSoldier
XSoldier

Let's see... Arizona could either secede from the United States, thus triggering a second Civil War with Arizona losing.

Or, we could pull an Adolf Hitler and claim we need lebensraum, or living space, and annex California, Nevada, Utah, New Mexico, and about a quarter of Texas and still manage to trigger a second Civil War with Arizona losing

Anon
Anon

Stephen, Great information on a truly disturbing bill and dangerous direction Arizona's "leaders" are taking the people. Truly un-American.

Anon
Anon

... clarification: the "leaders" pushing these draconian bills are truly un-American and backwards thinking scary people. They lack a vision for a better future and society for Arizona. This is chilling stuff.

Anon
Anon

This comment nailed it and is too good to be left behind --- people wake up!

Comment by: az history 16 hours ago in reply to Maxonepercent

If the federal government fails, the state will fail. If the state fails, counties will fail. if they fail, towns will fail. If they fail, your personal arsenal of weapons, gold supply and personal canning storage will end up being looted over your corpse.

Do you not understand that humans need society and this society requires the federal government. Don't believe me? Then turn off your water, your internet, your power, your language and quit going to stores that have received subsidies from the government to sell you things from companies that receive subsidies from the government.

"How long can you tread water?"

Concerned Citizen
Concerned Citizen

Stephen, Once again thanks for alerting the public. You are way ahead of the pack. NO Governor should be given that power, least of all one of a failed state that has been controlled by ONE party for decades, that put the state in this position. There are no checks and balances in Arizona, no oversight, no transparency, no accountability. Haven't we learned from the Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld decision to invade Iraq? And where are we 10 years later -- trying to create a war within/at our borders.

guest
guest

this state guard sounds like a great idea. don't worry libtards, it's a volunteer military force, nobody is expecting you bed-wetters to join up.

mikefrombisbee
mikefrombisbee

I understand why this unnecessary creation excites you - It would give you the opportunity to dress up and pretend you are a real soldier. And, you could chase those horrible brown people around. You poor thing - you fling insults rather than ideas - but, you have nothing else to offer. Oh, by the way, great right-wing warrior, what were YOUR MOS's? Mine were 11B, 13F and 95B. Regular Army and AZ Army National Guard. Expert Infantryman. Recondo qualified. If you don't know what an MOS is, go down to the local recruiting office and ask a soldier. He or she will explain it to you.

There are thousands of Border Patrol agents in southern Arizona right now, from Yuma to the New Mexico state line. I see them all the time here in Cochise County, from Douglas, Border Road, Naco, Palominas, all the way up to Benson, Willcox and beyond. There are so many of them that it is unusual to NOT see one or two or more in the landscape. And yet, those of you who live in the Valley watch Fox News and look at your extremist websites and see that the border is undefended? Even the local police departments are involved in border protection through Operation Stonegarden. But, if you chose to revel in your ignorance, go right ahead. And, while you're waiting for the state-sanctioned brownshirts to get started, you can pick up where Shawna Forde left off - join a paramilitary right wing organization and shoot a nine-year-old girl twice in the head as she begs for her life. After all, she WAS brown....

Gillie
Gillie

My MOS was 11M.  EIB, Combat lifesaver, Bradley Gunner and Anti Armor specialist.  I will be joining the State Guard if it gets off the ground.  I will help in any way possible to ensure that my fellow state guardsmen are prepared physically and skill wise.   I will help to ensure that the Shawna Fords don't get in or stay in.  They are really not to hard to spot.  I currently crunch gravel in the Vekol Valley and on a ranch near Tucson. 

guest
guest

can you tell us again how mesa keeps electing russell pearce? some of us missed the election results for the last several years.

XSoldier
XSoldier

My MOS was 21E, heavy machinery operator. I can't wait to go back in. This time, I want 31B, MP

mikefrombisbee
mikefrombisbee

I know it's hard to understand, but it's only three syllables. Sound out the words...Mormon Church...

Vigilante
Vigilante

Stop deflecting the question guest. What were your MOS's?

Vote4Garcia
Vote4Garcia

Ernie Hancock and Libertarians like myself have been working with legislators behind the scenes. I must admit though we are tired. As your well written article points out the information sharing is the scariest potential. When we pointed this out under 1070 however we were not "Good enough" to be aligned with some left groups and I was attacked and still am for pointing this out and not the humanitarian cause. Photo radar, enhanced drivers licenses, license plate recognition software and the information sharing allowed under 1070 creates the largest police state ever. Now this bill makes it also the scariest. We do not care about someones status, we care that ANYBODIES rights are being taken. As a long term activist it gets tiring pointing out that race and gender dont matter then being attacked for not aligning for the right reason. OPEN Borders Based on a FREE market. Period. Not good enough for Democrats and way to simple for Republicans who claim to embrace the Free Market.

SamFox
SamFox

Not a bad post Mr. Garcia. I would add though that I'll go for OPEN CONTROLLED borders & a free market. I don't agree that the borders should be left open & unsupervised as they pretty much are today.

SamFox

mikefrombisbee
mikefrombisbee

Open borders - unsupervised - as they pretty much are today? Where do you get that information from? You need to spend some time on the border - you can't turn around without seeing a green and white "perrera." Have you driven the line between Douglas and Bisbee - or between Rodeo and El Paso? Or from the south side of the Huachucas to the Patagonias?

Unsupervised, my ass! There are places where the only traffic you see is Border Patrol.

We don't need another opportunity for wannabe Rambos to dress up and play soldier. We have a state militia and a border police. This is a bill sponsored by right-wing zealots who don't have a clue about the border and see civil disorder where none exists. Do you really want RuSSell Pearce and his ilk to have influence over a state-sponsored paramilitary organization? Do you want Jan Brewer to have her own praetorian guard?

Coz
Coz

Can you even imagine being led into anything with GED XRay Technician Brewer as the leader of a State Guard.

Her troops may as well commit suicide and save everyone else the trouble. What a cluster fuck that would be.

Mtn Girl
Mtn Girl

Jan *has did balanced the budget* has still did nothing of substance about it except enrich ALEC and FAIR. She can't see further than the top of her cocktail glass and wants to be in charge of her own private militia? LOLOLOL

Concerned Citizen
Concerned Citizen

No Governor should be given that power, least of all one of a failed state that has been controlled by ONE party for decades, that put the state in this position. There are no checks and balances in Arizona, no oversight, no transparency, no accountability. Haven't we learned from the Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld decision to invade Iraq? And where are we 10 years later -- trying to create a war within/at our borders.

Coz
Coz

Won't be long now before the Brewer the Bitch puts up fences around the State and we all become prisoner's.

Anon
Anon

Coz, We are prisoners of the state in case you haven't noticed. And the list is growing daily. They are even importing inmates from elsewhere to fill their coffers. This is Arizona's "business model". People need to wake up.

Coz
Coz

So true Anon, so true.Arizona is nothing more than a Prison and Death State.

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