Steve Smith, Wingnutty Hater, Wants To Turn Hospital Employees into ICE Agents

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State Senator Steve Smith: He wants emergency room staff to ask for your papers

Freshman Republinut state Senator Steve Smith, the guy who knocked off Democrat Rebecca Rios in District 23 last year, longs to make a name for himself on the backs of impoverished and ill undocumented immigrants.

Indeed, in a Q & A with AZCentral.com during his candidacy, he pretty much assured readers that all of Arizona's problems could be solved if those pesky illegals could be driven off the state welfare rolls.

Problem with that is, they're not really on there to begin with. Both state and federal laws prevent those here illegally from obtaining federal benefits administered by the state. 

Don't believe me? You don't have to. Just read the following excerpt from the nativist Federation for American Immigration Reform. Even FAIR acknowledges that illegal immigrants don't have access to most public benefits:

Illegal immigrants are barred from the following federal public benefits: grants, contracts, loans, licenses, retirement, welfare, health, disability, public or assisted housing, post secondary education, food assistance, and unemployment benefits. States are barred from providing state or locally funded benefits to illegal immigrants unless a state law is enacted granting such authority.

FAIR is correct on this point. Know why all this is true? Because of the 1996 federal welfare reform law, signed by none other than Democratic President William Jefferson Clinton.

State laws similarly bar illegal immigrants from obtaining benefits from the Arizona Department of Economic Security. In fact, state law instructs DES employees to report those who are applying for public benefits, and who are believed to be here illegally, to U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

And DES has been doing just that. So much so that many legal immigrants and illegal immigrants whose children are American citizens are afraid to apply for the benefits they rightfully deserve.

But there's one place where persons legal and illegal, citizens and non-citizens have so far been able to go without harassment: hospital emergency rooms.

Smith would like to change that. He's the primary sponsor of Senate Bill 1405, which would turn hospital employees into de facto ICE agents.

A.  BEFORE A HOSPITAL ADMITS A PERSON FOR NONEMERGENCY CARE, A HOSPITAL ADMISSIONS OFFICER MUST CONFIRM THAT THE PERSON IS A CITIZEN OF THE UNITED STATES, A LEGAL RESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OR LAWFULLY PRESENT IN THE UNITED STATES.  THE ADMISSIONS OFFICER MAY USE ANY METHOD PRESCRIBED IN SECTION 1-501 TO VERIFY CITIZENSHIP OR LEGAL STATUS.

B.  IF THE ADMISSIONS OFFICER DETERMINES THAT THE PERSON DOES NOT MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF SUBSECTION A OF THIS SECTION, THE ADMISSIONS OFFICER MUST CONTACT THE LOCAL FEDERAL IMMIGRATION OFFICE.

C.  IF THE HOSPITAL PROVIDES EMERGENCY MEDICAL CARE PURSUANT TO FEDERAL REQUIREMENTS TO A PERSON WHO DOES NOT MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF SUBSECTION A OF THIS SECTION, ON SUCCESSFUL TREATMENT OF THE PATIENT THE ADMISSIONS OFFICER MUST CONTACT THE LOCAL FEDERAL IMMIGRATION OFFICE.

I'm not sure what's supposed to transpire if you don't happen to have proof of citizenship, legal residency or lawful presence on you. Granted, the bill doesn't seem to deny emergency care. But knowledge of such a law would surely scare the bejesus out of those seeking medical assistance, if they or their children happen to be undocumented.

And that is likely the effect Smith and his co-sponsors, such as state Senate President Russell Pearce, are intending: fear. As the undocumented do not have direct access to public benefits, much less health insurance, an emergency room is the hope of last resort. As it is for all uninsured persons.

Now the undocumented will have to weigh the risk of being deported against the risk of not being treated for their ailments. Or of their children not being treated.

The public at large is ill-served by such an idiotic, mean-spirited proposal. What if there's an epidemic of some infectious disease? Some of those suffering from or at risk for the disease may avoid hospitals altogether because they could be turned over to la migra.

In any case, Smith's bill's scheduled to be heard by the state Senate judiciary committee on Monday, February 14, at 2 p.m. Perhaps, in light of those undocumented who may end up suffering or even dying because of this measure, we should refer to the hearing as, "Steve Smith's St. Valentine's Day massacre."


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Kitsugab
Kitsugab

This to inform you of a person living and working in the United States illegally. The names that this person assumes are as follows: Gabriela Sanchez (her niece), Karla P. Durazo (her aunt), Patty Durazo (her sister),Julieta Sanchez (her aunt), Patty Sanchez (her sister/her niece) Rocio Sanchez (her sister), Mayra Viramontes (her cousin), Karen Durazo (her cousin),Kenya Durazo (hercousin), Karina Sanchez (her cousin).All of the names assumed by her can be substantiated through her facebook account which is under the name Gabby Sanchez.Her Employer is: Dr. Larry Stark   3201 W. Peoria Ave # A-100   Phoenix, AZ 85029Her assumed Social Security # is her Aunt's Soc. Sec. # 611-32-7757 (Karla P. Durazo) who actually lives in California.She drives a pathfinder with AZ lic. # AHT4587 Her address is: 2220 W. Mission Ln. #1095 (which is in Larry Starks name /  Phoenix, AZ 85017    co-signed for)  SRP Acct # 919-863-000    (which is in Larry Starks name)Her Phone # 602-628-3116   (which is in Larry Starks name)Family Assistance Administration Case # 00564738 (Gabriela Sanchez)Dental work provided under the name Patty Sanchez. And full medical (BCBS)is paid for by Larry StarkHer sons name is Carlos Flores-Sanchez and he graduated from Cortez High School.She was raised by her Grandmother who was a whore in Mexico. This young woman makes it easier for other illegals to obtain medications includingnarcotics and evade citizenship tests through the Doctors office that she works in.Also supplying them with false identification and documentation. I am very concerned about the illegal activities (Document Fraud, Identity Theft, Conducting crimes in America) that she is involved in. Please address the above issues as soon as possible.

Concerned Citizen 

Kitsugab
Kitsugab

This to inform you of a person living and working in the United States illegally. The names that this person assumes are as follows: Gabriela Sanchez (her niece), Karla P. Durazo (her aunt), Patty Durazo (her sister),Julieta Sanchez (her aunt), Patty Sanchez (her sister/her niece) Rocio Sanchez (her sister), Mayra Viramontes (her cousin), Karen Durazo (her cousin),Kenya Durazo (hercousin), Karina Sanchez (her cousin).All of the names assumed by her can be substantiated through her facebook account which is under the name Gabby Sanchez.Her Employer is: Dr. Larry Stark   3201 W. Peoria Ave # A-100   Phoenix, AZ 85029Her assumed Social Security # is her Aunt's Soc. Sec. # 611-32-7757 (Karla P. Durazo) who actually lives in California.She drives a pathfinder with AZ lic. # AHT4587 Her address is: 2220 W. Mission Ln. #1095 (which is in Larry Starks name /  Phoenix, AZ 85017    co-signed for)  SRP Acct # 919-863-000    (which is in Larry Starks name)Her Phone # 602-628-3116   (which is in Larry Starks name)Family Assistance Administration Case # 00564738 (Gabriela Sanchez)Dental work provided under the name Patty Sanchez. And full medical (BCBS)is paid for by Larry StarkHer sons name is Carlos Flores-Sanchez and he graduated from Cortez High School.She was raised by her Grandmother who was a whore in Mexico. This young woman makes it easier for other illegals to obtain medications includingnarcotics and evade citizenship tests through the Doctors office that she works in.Also supplying them with false identification and documentation. I am very concerned about the illegal activities (Document Fraud, Identity Theft, Conducting crimes in America) that she is involved in. Please address the above issues as soon as possible.

Concerned Citizen 

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Ellebean
Ellebean

Steve Smith is a crazy man and that makes him DANGEROUS! How stupid must the Arizona voters be to have elected this pathetic, worthless poor excuse of a man!

Chilidawg
Chilidawg

Am I the only one who has spotted the basic flaw in this bill?

It only requires that the hospital "Contact" the local federal immigration office. So what if the Hospital sends the local federal immigration office an nice card saying "Hello?" They contacted them, right?

chicagonut
chicagonut

Quote a moron:

"I'll answer the payment question, though it'd be nice to answers myself. I've no problem paying for them. We are the ones, who for the last 50 years, begged and encouraged them to come here for their willingness to take jobs Americans wouldn't."

Who is this "we" that begged and encouraged illegal aliens to come here? It certainly wasn't the majority of Americans. They came here encouraged by greedy employers. So regular Americans should have to pay their medical costs even though "we" didn't invite them? It is utter Bs that they are doing jobs that Americans won't do. I am sick of that lying propaganda. Even for crop picking there are unlimited visas for LEGAL immigrant workers. It is all about the greed of the employers and you are helpiing them rape the rest of us by advocating for illegal aliens in our country.

Good, you set up a medical fund for them and you foot the bill for them. Leave the rest of us alone who want our immigration laws respected and enforced.

tim1776
tim1776

I don't know to what extent illegal immigrants get public benefits but to imply that they don't get any because a Federal laws bars it is misleading. It's well know that Obama's Aunt lives in public housing in Boston. She has not been kicked out.

Illegal immigrants often qualify for benefits once they give birth to a kid in the US. That's because the kid is a legal citizen. That opens up the family to receiving WIC as well as public housing. Public housing requires that one of the household members is a citizen. It does not bar illegal imigrants from living in the unit as long as at least one household member is legal.

Pretending that illegals don't get public benefits isn't helping their cause because it's dishonest and it only convinces the people who are already pro-illegal immigrantion.

All that said, Smith's proposal is a bad idea. Better would be simply increasing efforts to have people pay their hospital bills. If someone has extra money for lottery tickets or cigarettes then they should be able to contribute to the cost of their health care.

Boomer49
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USAdefender1
USAdefender1

Rob,

You claim we encouraged people to come and do the jobs Americans won’t do. I beg to differ and please don’t put me into that American welcoming wagon you have joined. You see many unscrupulous American businesses provide slave wages to these hard working people to maximize profits along with no sick time, vacation time or even holiday pay mostly because they know they won’t go and try and get a job somewhere else. Most of your welcoming wagon doesn’t provide these same people with the option to even buy medical insurance much less provide insurance. My welcoming wagon says come here legally and compete for the jobs as we all do!

As for Mexico medical attention;

They ask for ability to pay. You then provide proof or the information they request and you have just made an arraignment acceptable to the medical provider AS I STATED. Your inability to provide proof or make an arrangement for payment will GIVE YOU A DIFFRENT RESULT (I suggest you try it!). As for receiving medical treatment in Mexico I have and it was top notch but don’t believe that many Mexicans had access to that doctor. That doctors’ make house calls in Mexico… some do as well as some do in the U.S. The average Mexican citizen does NOT have access to doctor house calls! Oh and as for you brown bogeyman comment…. You’re a MORON!

USAdefender1

USAdefender1
USAdefender1

CW,

I have no need to foam from the mouth. In my years I have learned that in every society we have those who look for a free ride at the expense of others. Like you there are many who would rather take than produce which is sad. I have traveled to many countries and the idea of doing nothing and scrimping by on scraps has taken a foothold but American progressive MORONS feel they can do a better job. With enthusiasm you MORONS want to reinvent government control of the people but have not learned that Hitler, Mussolini, Lenin, Castro and many more who came to power in that fashion only turn on their people. What makes you MORONS feel you can do a better job??? IGNORANCE! Taking from those who have earned and produced to give to those who wish not to is a flawed formula that does not work. Should we have heathcare reform? YES but it is one thing to have health care reform and another to have goverment health care takeover.

As Joe Wilson said.... YOU LIE!

USAdefender1

USAdefender1
USAdefender1

Progressive MORONS,

What are conservatives thinking! We should NEVER, I say NEVER ask them folks to pay for their heath care! I mean WTF America! Emergencies are a given but colds and ingrown toe nails? Who the hell is going to do your lawns, clean up after you filthy bums or cook your food if these people don’t make it in to work! Should we become a crippled society because we won’t take care of them! We should have mobile units go and take care of them in the comfort of their homes with follow up visits and a mobile pharmacy, x-ray and MRI machines. If that sounds unreasonable we could try mobile urgent care units that cost a little less.

USAdefender1

P.S. Just curious you progressive MORONS did I get it right?

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USAdefender1
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Moron Bugger49

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I love thoughtful contributions to a conversation. The "Eatshitanddiemotherfucker" is classic! The cool thing is that your attitude should put you right next to me except I believe you will be the one BENT over taken the Devil's dick!

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Rob
Rob

"They ask for ability to pay. You then provide proof or the information they request and you have just made an arraignment acceptable to the medical provider AS I STATED. Your inability to provide proof or make an arrangement for payment will GIVE YOU A DIFFRENT RESULT (I suggest you try it!). "

In addition to reading comprehension, I see your struggling with memory. Is that really what you stated? So you don't have to scroll down, let me help you.

"They do ask for papers it’s called "MONEY" and if you don't have it you don't get treated."

Care to change your statement? Make up your mind. And, again, how is this different from what happens in the US?

However, the issue your going around and around over is money/payment. That's not the issue with this bill.Try focusing and addressing the issue.

What I wrote is not a "claim", Daniel. It's a fact. I was born here and have lived here 46 years, save 3 while contracted out in the D.C. area. I grew up in the business community and am still very involved in it.

It is a simple, irrefutable fact that Arizona and US business as well as citizens have encouraged undocumented workers to come here. To the point that the labor they provide, the economic impact and taxes they pay have become woven into the US economy. I won't even get into the social input. If this was not a fact, and untrue as you say, why the problem with getting CIR? You don't think US business interests have any involvement or influence? Think again my optically challenged friend.

Rob
Rob

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Say this is a kid, who's parents are here illegally. Certainly not an emergency, life threatening situation...yet. They don't take the child to the Doctor for fear of deportation.

Who ends up paying?

Rob
Rob

I cannot think of a single instance when you would want to discourage a person from seeking medical care. And that's not only for their own personal health but as it affects the community, city, state as well. Think about it.

If you wouldn't mind, could you please point out the article of the bill that states: persons who provide proof of medical insurance, proof of financial responsibiity or ability to pay WILL NOT have to provide proof of citizenship. Find it yet?

Ever have kids Daniel? How many times have they run a fever, had a cough, hurt themselves...all termed non emergency. Who took them in for medical care? The parents who may not be legal but will be questioned about their status when trying to seek care for their child. Are we really going to put people in that position? Are we that advanced? What if their parents have jobs that provide insurance or they have the means to pay (your big concern, right?) but because of their legal status they still don't take them? What's been accomplished?

You've stated in previous posts that you own property and spend extended periods of time in Mexico. What happens when Mexico finally gets pissed and goes tit for tat with these blatantly biased laws? Then what happens when you are down there and get sick? Lo siento, Senor...tienes papeles?

Or maybe we should apply gun nut logic here too...they'll start with this and next year you can guarantee there will be a bill denying any medical care in any situation to anyone without proof of citizenship...of course they'll have to make up their mind if they'll accept US citizenship or it's only for those "special" Arizona citizens who carry a long form birth certificate with them.

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Rob,

My optically challenged friend read again until you see arrangements and then sock in the rest!

"You need to check into this amigo. They do ask for papers it’s called "MONEY" and if you don't have it you don't get treated. If it's an emergency you will probably get treated but you can check in but can't check out until your bill is paid or arrangements are made that are satisfactory to the medical provider. There has been case of this in the past."

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USAdefender1
USAdefender1

Rob,

"You've stated in previous posts that you own property and spend extended periods of time in Mexico. What happens when Mexico finally gets pissed and goes tit for tat with these blatantly biased laws? Then what happens when you are down there and get sick? Lo siento, Senor...tienes papeles?"

You need to check into this amigo. They do ask for papers it’s called "MONEY" and if you don't have it you don't get treated. If it's an emergency you will probably get treated but you can check in but can't check out until your bill is paid or arrangements are made that are satisfactory to the medical provider. There has been case of this in the past.

My point is that we need to have people pay for services. If the undocumented won’t pay for services rendered, then the logical alternative to me would be their employer if they have one. I don’t believe that this would have come up if this were not a problem.

As for the children I don't believe that most Americans would withhold treatment of needed medical attention. The problem we have is that we will not take the time to discuss the problem. If you oppose treatment you are inhumane or a racist. If you ask that they pay for services you are unreasonable and a racist. If you bring up anything in regards to this you are unreasonable and a racist. This goes on and we never get anywhere on this point.

Just curious Rob, who should pay for the medical services of these people?

USAdefender1

USAdefender1
USAdefender1

MORON Lou,

It's funny how the first to respond had to be a broke ass who wants to give away what he doesn’t have.

You can't afford me MORON Lou! You see your lack a real radio show then that thing called ratings and don’t leave out that other thing called sponsors which of course you know. Now let me tell you what you have not figured out yet……. You have No talent, No voice, No personality, No gift of gab and you don’t have the ability to keep an audience entertained. The funny thing is that I have seen more successful shows in markets with fewer than 10,000 people before computers with 10+ low power am stations which speaks volumes to your abilities when you have access to the entire world on the net yet no one is knocking.

USAdefender1

Rob
Rob

As usual, and completely expected, you don't answer the questions posed to you. Instead, you counter-question...but only to one point, ignoring the rest. And, again, the one response you give is incorrect.

Mexico does not require cash/payment up front. They ask for ability to pay....sound familiar? I've got personal experience with this. A daughter who nearly had a foot severed stepping on a coke bottle on a beach. She was taken to hospital immediately - by private citizens - no questions were asked she was treated immediately and very, very competently. Not until we were ready to leave were we asked about payment. Obviously, we didn't have the cash on us. They didn't hold us as you suggest...we agreed that we would mail a check to them and we were done. (and I have to add...the cost was significantly cheaper than what an ER visit up here would have been).

My father in law who lives in a small town in Michoacan, was looking into surgery for knee issues. 4 doctors came to his house to offer services...not a single one spoke of payment up front.

We happen to spend a good deal of time in Mexico due to family. On several occasions we've taken our kids in to be looked in non emergency situations. Not once has money been demanded up front nor were we held when we did not have it with us when going to leave. You may be able to get away with these statements with your brown bogeyman friends, but not here.

Putting my personal experiences aside...so they ask for money. Which would make them different than the US how?

You don't believe they'd withhold services...I don't either, it goes against what Doctors do...but they are putting this into law and they have their little provision that says: "providers that comply with this will not be subject to civil suit". So another touch of SB1070 here...a private citizen goes in, suspects and undocumented person is being treated and files a claim. Insurance for medical providers is high enough...what will this do to that? Who's going to pay for their increased insurance?

I'll answer the payment question, though it'd be nice to answers myself. I've no problem paying for them. We are the ones, who for the last 50 years, begged and encouraged them to come here for their willingness to take jobs Americans wouldn't. On that end, I'm fine with paying. I don't have a problem with the system as it works now.

Nor am I opposed to a single payer system. It seems to work quite well in Canada.

Charles Ward
Charles Ward

Can't speak for Rob, of course, but I think we should have a single payer system. That's right: socialized medicine.

Please commence foaming at the mouth and gibbering unintelligibly.

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