Kyrsten Sinema Wipes the Floor with John Kavanagh Re: Jan Brewer's Budget

I've been critical of uber-lefty state Senator Kyrsten Sinema on different issues, like the anti-Westboro Baptist Church legislation she recently sponsored in the legislature.

And I think it's a big mistake to think that Dems can work across the aisle with crocodiles such as state Senate President Russell Pearce. As my colleague Ray Stern blogged today, Sinema was burned by Republican trickery on a recent vote. 

That should be a lesson. You can't trust a scorpion not to sting you. Unless, of course, you tear off its tail first.

However, Sinema is not without communication skills, as evidenced by this recent debate she had on Channel 8's Horizon with Republican state Representative John Kavanagh over Governor Jan Brewer's proposed budget.

Kavanagh, a toady of state Senate President Russell Pearce, got his lunch handed to him, with a cookie for dessert. Kavanagh is sometimes able to buffalo uninformed reporters, but Sinema knows what she's talking about here, while Kavanagh seems unprepared for battle.

"This budget is based on an unconstitutional premise," Sinema stated from jump. "The governor plans to cut about $540 million from our AHCCCS program. And she's going to ask the federal government for a waiver. But she's not planning to ask the voters for a waiver. And that's a problem, because they're the ones who passed this law in the first place. It's constitutionally protected, and in 2000, when they passed Prop 204, they said we have to provide this care. So the bottom line is this is a fake budget, with fake numbers."

Of course, the Republicans have since voted to give Brewer the okay to seek the waiver, so we're back in fantasy land with the likes of Kavanagh and all the other GOPers.

Good thing is, this one is their mess. So all the suffering, confusion, and fiscal mismanagement it engenders will fall squarely on their noggins. The Dems need to hold them accountable and use it against them in 2012.

In the meantime, kudos to Sinema for sticking a fork in Kavanagh and turning him over to bake.

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Anon
Anon

Sinema the clear winner on credibility. She represents the future.

Paulapennypacker
Paulapennypacker

Kavanaugh is being very duplicitous. Those of us who support a lower and broader sales tax are NOT advocating that we tax business-to-business transactions. On that note Sinema is absolutely correct.

Paulapennypacker
Paulapennypacker

Kavanagh is being very duplicitous. Those of us who support a lower and broader sales tax are not advocating that we tax business to business transactions. On that not Sinema is absolutely correct.

Tommy Collins
Tommy Collins

Kudos to both legislators and the moderator. I fully expected a verbal knock down, shout it out. Both sides offered their ideals and opinions and I appreciate their having done so in such a professional manner.

As part of the pearce Republican organization (sounds a bit like a mafia family) Kavanaugh has just demonstrated his ability to spew meaningless pearce garbage into the air with the force of a jet engine on a Boeing 747. The Republican faction CLEARLY is scrambling now to try to make the budget actually balance, as Mrs. Brewer claimed to "have did" last year when she was interim governor and candidate. Senator Sinema presented her argument, supported by facts, and Kavanaugh did nothing more that offer flaccid opinion about what he thought might happen and what he claims is damage done by Democrats.

I really wondered if perhaps the Flaccid Fool of MCSO might have contributed to the mishmash of marbled mustard offered by Kavanaugh. Nay, say I. It appears Kavanaugh has the ability to be untruthful just like pearce. He apparently has been well trained by the Wrinkled Winkle from Fountain Hills. Are they neighbors, I wonder? Perhaps I should post their home addresses.

I am anticipating that Senator Sinema is going to be correct in the long run. Not having read the actual question as presented to voters I will assume the 'waiver' can't happen without approval of the people. Time will tell.

Anon
Anon

"In the meantime, kudos to Sinema for sticking a fork in Kavanagh and turning him over to bake." Stephen, Great observation!

Anon
Anon

Kavanagh represents the past. Kysten Sinema represents the future. It clearly showed. Kavanagh do the people of Arizona a favor -- hang it up and pass the baton to the next generation who will be paying for the mess you and your cronies created.

Steve Muratore
Steve Muratore

Republicans take on Kyrsten Sinema at their own peril.

Julie Acklin
Julie Acklin

cutting az budget to mentally ill and the sick is barbarick and cruel.Stop hiding behind budget cuts and start thinking of the lives that are being thrown a way like trash.We are the people of az not recycled waste to be thrown into landfils and covered up temporarily for the future >Tax the rich and corporation and Quit getting rid of the sick and the poor and the mentally ill and . the old to get rid of the problem Az.God did not make trash.

Chad Snow
Chad Snow

In the last legislature, Russell Pearce and John Kavanagh were chairmen of the Senate and House Appropriations committees respectively. Between the two of them, they've never spent a day in the private sector (both have worked for the government their entire lives), have never owned a business, and have absolutely no economic bona fides whatsoever. And our governor is a certified x-ray tech.

And we wonder why we have a $2 billion deficit...

Concerned Citizen
Concerned Citizen

Chad, Well said! People need to wake up. These officials represent the past and created the financial disaster with their ignorance and gimmicks. They need to look in the mirror. If they never ran a business they have no experience in knowing what the people need and certainly know nothing about how to start a small business. They are too busy looking for Federal hand-outs and growing a "business model" with CCA/Coughlin/Senseman taking charge. A sick "business model" profiting off the backs of human misery --the further mass incarceration of those who have money, so they can seize their assets and those who have no voice or legal standing -- illegal immigrants -- bowling for Federal $$'s. People turned into "bed-counts"=$$'s. It's a truly sick game they are playing on the people and taxpayers of America. Arizona's future looks grim. Who will be left to pay for all this? Certainly not the Arizona taxpayers they continue to destroy.

Concerned Citizen
Concerned Citizen

Chad, Well said! People need to wake up. These officials represent the past and created the the financial disasters with their ignorance and gimmicks. They need to look in the mirror. If they never ran a business they have no experience in knowing what the people need and certainly know nothing about how to start a small business. They are too busy looking for Federal hand-outs and growing a "business model" with CCA/Coughlin/Senseman taking charge - the further mass incarceration of those who have money and they can take their assets and those who have no voice or legal standing and the Federal government with give them "bed-count" $$'s. It's a truly sick game they are playing on the people and taxpayers of America.

Rob
Rob

At the end of the day, when the Feds deny the waiver, you know who Jan will point her finger at and blame for Arizona's budget fiasco.

Unfortunately I am afraid, the brain dead, right wing, Obama hating voters that are all too common in Arizona will forget the reality of the issue and go right along with it.

After all these are people who overwhelmingly voted in Brewer with her claim that she "has done balanced" the budget when reality showed that it wasn't.

Chad Snow
Chad Snow

Rob, like most of you muslim socialist Obama lovers, you can't speak english. The proper way of saying that is "has did balanced the budget...."

Charles Ward
Charles Ward

Reminds me of Jim Morrison's famous line concerniong how he "just did the Ed Sullivan Show."

Rob
Rob

Chad & Steve, My apologies. I had fallen asleep when I thought the Governor was done speaking. But, just to be sure, I did email her office to verify. Response I received acknowledged what you both pointed out and they suggested I use the same worksheet that was given the Governor. http://www.rhlschool.com/eng2n...

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