John McCain vs. DREAM Act: Vote Expected Today

Time's a wastin', people. Hit those phones. Hit 'em hard.

The DREAM Act, proposed legislation that would legalize the status of undocumented students brought here when they were young, is being discussed on the floor of the U.S. House even as I type this. A vote in both houses of Congress is expected today.

The above video from videographer Dennis Gilman presents DREAM Activists telling their stories and challenging U.S. Senator from Arizona John McCain, and everyone really, to support the DREAM Act and put an end to Don't Ask Don't Tell.

Since the DREAM Act is on the front burner right now, those here Sand Land can express their opinions by jamming the phone lines of Congress, whether you're pro-DREAM or con. 

Well, to be honest, if you're anti-DREAM, here's hoping your cell phone spontaneously combusts and your land line is possessed by the ghost of Chris Farley, bent on ordering a pizza pie from the great beyond.

The Arizona DREAM Act Coalition has all the phone numbers for your Congressmen and Senators, here. Have at it. If the Dems can't get this one past the Republican log jam during a lame duck session, they need to hang up their football helmets and take up shuffleboard instead.

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Ted
Ted

Senator John McCain is a liar, buffoon, not to mention a shitty pilot. He crashed three multi-million dollar fighters causing death and injury to innocent seamen prior to getting shot out of the sky over Hanoi while hot-shotting. This lying slimeball is not worth wasting an epithet on!

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guest
guest

Hey, 38 posts and nobody has given a shout out to dennis gilman for his most excellent work on behalf of the cause? Now, I don't know who the fuck dennis gilman is, I've asked several times and have never received a straight answer, but as of today's feathered bastard posting, I now know that he's a "videographer." I also did not know that having a youtube channel and a video camera transmogrified a person into a videographer, but I'm open to new ideas. My nephews take videos of their yu-gi-oh collections and post them on youtube, and I didn't even realize that they had become videographers. I'm going to praise them properly the next time that I see them.

Mikey1969
Mikey1969

Wow, are you really this dense? I guess it could be just a front, you're probably just trolling...

guest
guest

soooo, no shout out for dennis, then?

guest
guest

well don't make us pull it out of you next time, just offer up the gilman kudos without coercion.

Mikey1969
Mikey1969

Not all. In fact, this is one of the best of seen from Gilman, I just don't write thinly veiled insults and post them as a "shout out" like you do. Big difference.

Sampson
Sampson

Is there such a real person as Stephen Lemons or is he a fictional person and the reality of it is that Stephen Lemons is simply a broken record authoring story and story about Andrew Thomas, Joe Arapio, SB-70 with a sprinkling of John McCain and anti PLEA rhetoric? If it wasn't for these stories the "Feathered Bastard" would be serving coffee during the morning shift at the Dunkin Donuts on Mill Avenue.

guest
guest

this is arizona, we have illegals, sand and cactus. what do you want him to write about?he's doing a god damned good job with very little to work with. We need some more jews and blacks around here.

guest
guest

There is a Stephen Lemons and he's one of the biggest reasons (no pun intended) that we're going to be welcoming 2 million new productive citizens to our country. He fights for the underprivileged, no matter what country they come from, like Robin Hood or somebody. If Stephen Lemons wasn't the patriotic hero that he is, he wouldn't be serving coffee, he'd be the manager of the store.

Kelsyhuff
Kelsyhuff

look here morons i kno both sides of the mexican and american constitution america didnt take over some territories from mexico. mexico owe money to america so mexico give some states to america thats how u guys got ur country so i dont kno y some of you guys think are better then other people nd some americans are illegal and dean doesnt no shit he is just a racist idiot

guest
guest

thanks for your calls everybody. the dream act has passed the house! this is a blow to racists and bigots countrywide. the senate vote is tomorrow, keep calling! we have to get this through before the republitards get into office in january. we know what's best for everybody, so now is the time to act!

guest
guest

we need to make sure that the dreamers can bring family members to the united states after they become citizens. Can you imagine how difficult it will be for a student or soldier to do well without strong family support? If we're going to put up all sorts of qualifications for these dreamers to satisfy under the dream act, then we can't hamstring them by making them go it alone without their extended families around them to offer encouragement.

guest
guest

At first, I was troubled by the "soldier" part of the dream act because as a true liberal, I am 100% anti-war and the military part of the dream act seemed to be at odds with my principles. but then I just wished it away and don't think about it.

guest
guest

Me too, but don't worry about it too much, as soon as we get the dreamers solidified as citizens, we'll revert back to anti-war protesters and encourage them to stay out of the military. If that doesn't work, we'll target the recruiters and drive them out of areas where they can easily get their claws on these innocent dreamers. One way or another, our silence on the issue now will be forgotten when we start putting daisies down the barrels of guns again, and we will suffer no consequences.

guest
guest

YAY! this is so great! 2 million more democratic voters! In a short amount of time, these new citizens might create family units of four children or more so we could go to 8 million new democrats without any problem. I hope that a lot of them become doctors and lawyers (and subsequently judges), but I truly hope that many will choose social work and education as their focus. we need to continue our work shaping minds in the public schools and these dreamers can help out in a big way if they choose to.

guest
guest

I have my senators on speed dial! I can't wait to begin watching these wonderful young people living out their dreams. I don't care if I do have to subsidize it, I'm happy to give the extra money that my white privilege has afforded me. dreams really do come true :)

Kelsyhuff
Kelsyhuff

some of you guys are right but the dream act is about the kids that are trying to have a future and the ones who graduate from school not for everyone who doesnt do anything and just couse trouble they should send does people back and its funny how karl and mary and julian and people like that talk about mexicans and about mexico but i bet they go to mexico to have a good time i hate does kind of people like them but they wan mexicans to stay out of america WHITE people shouldnt be wellcome o mexico eather does kids didnt had a choise morongs. so i think they should pass that law for the people who is trying to have a future and the graduates and the ones who does good

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Dave Francis
Dave Francis

MAKE--YOUR--VOICE--KNOWN--ON--THE--DREAM--ACT--TRAVESTY MAY BE TODAY?

MAKE YOUR EMERGENCY CALL TODAY. NOW! CALL YOUR SENATOR OR HOUSE REPRESENTATIVE.

Those taxpayers who have had enough, BOMBARD your Senators with your words and your Members of Congress to oppose the DREAM Act Amnesty -- 202-224-3121 NumbersUSA for details. NumbersUSA will inform you of the truth.

Majority Senate Whip Dick Durbin of Illinois predicts the Dream act will come up for a vote Wednesday. We cannot let Senator Reid and his demagogues lever this badly worded immigration bill in for a vote. With Senator Reid at the helm of his Liberal ship, he cannot be allowed to pass this law--as is? It will cause another Chain Migration avalanche of family members, who eventually will end up on the welfare rolls. This became predominant after first of sixth amnesties that began in 1986 Simpson-Mazzoli bill.

There is absolutely no question that in the coming years, student family members will become a further economic encumbrance on the middle class once --Chain Migration--is underway. Hundreds of thousands or even millions will enter America through Chain migration. Eventually the sponsor cannot or will not support the immediate family members. This burden will fall upon this nations public benefit system. Old sponsored family members will become sick and without the subsistence of the original sponsor will end up in the emergency county hospital. Hundreds of hospitals right now are overrun with newcomers on dialysis procedures, costing billions of dollars a year. Sisters entering America through the Chain migration in turn will have their own babies who will collect instant citizenship and the whole vicious cycle will never be closed, as our population will explode as with the 1986 Simpson-Mazzoli bill.This nation cannot afford this monstrosity of a bill, in this fiscal period with America teetering on a 14 Trillion dollar edge of insolvency. This is not just about the US treasury, but almost every State the money reservoir are badly depleted from the illegal alien welfare programs.

California-the Sanctuary State—on the front line of illegal immigration has serious money problems.

Just because someone does not agree with the provisions of the Dream Act, does not mean they are a racist. When the Tea Party memberships were branded as racist, the illegal alien students lost their argument with American people. For over twenty years citizens and permanent residents have been paying for children of illegal alien parents in education through K-12, health care and a host of other welfare entitlements. This includes the babies intentionally born in this country, so the parents cannot be deported and able to collect food stamps, medical in the name of the baby. The average population grows from instant citizenship children of 300 thousand a year. Taking advantage of the badly interpreted 14th amendment, that gives instant citizenship to the infants of illegal alien mothers.

It seems the more the taxpayer gives, the more foreign trespassers demand. The Dream Act is another ideology born of Liberal progressives who seem to believe we as a nation have an obligation to support every impoverished person, who manages to slip through our borders either on foot, vehicle or by plane. As I have repeated before-there will be more taxes needed to pay for this back-door amnesty.

Illegal alien students are not exempt from joining the armed services in time of war. Once enlisted in the U.S. Armed Forces, under 8 USC § 1440, these illegal aliens can become naturalized citizens through expedited processing, often obtaining U.S. citizenship in six months? Every student or any foreign national has the option of being recruited for the military, without the need for passing the Dream Act.With regards to States as Arizona, California, Texas and New Mexico being financial impacted by the illegal alien occupation. If the Federal governments failure to enforce our border with a national military presence or the original double layer fencing barrier, then states should have a right to police the best way they can in protecting Americans from foreigners who cross the border with an intentions to do harm or other criminal activity. The US Supreme Court should do the right thing for every state that is under continuous bombardment by economic illegal aliens and dangerous persons, that has propagated across our country. SCOTUS should see through business entities such as the US Chamber of Commerce, whose main involvement is profitable gain for its business owner subscribers. Include in these complainants organizations who have a financial interest in bringing in illegal aliens, such as immigration attorneys who make their living in filing documents and consultations with the influx of people.

panola
panola

If this Nightmare Act is approved there will be 2 million less American kids going to college over the next several years because the democrats want to give those slots to illegal aliens.

However we American citizens do get one thing out of it... the bill. Yup the democrats want the American taxpayer to subsidize their education while cheating our American kids.

The Nightmare Act has no cap, no end-date and no enforcement, it's simply a "mass amnesty".

Why do democrats hate American kids so much???

Beckykracke
Beckykracke

ignorance. pure ignorance!

guest
guest

Darn, Becky, you beat me to it, thank you for letting Paul know that he's purely ignorant. we should come up with some different names to use so that you could call Paul ignorant and I could call him a racist and my daughter could call him a stupid head for disagreeing with us. We need to let these republinuts know how we fell about them because then they may stop and think about their stupidity and work to change it.

Allan
Allan

Are you afraid that 2 million kids have such low academic qualifications that 2 million immigrant will out perform them on entrance exams and take their seats? An A+ Dreamer might take a seat of a D- student? 2 Million!?!?!? Wow, that would really improve college life, wouldn't it?

guest
guest

After years of community activism for causes of all kinds, I can attest to the fact that democrats love kids! We just recognize the fact that your kids, Paul, are not any more special than the dream act kids. In fact, your kids have had so much privilege in this country, that it's only fair that we level the playing field. All children are created as equals and should be treated as such.

guest
guest

*nods head vigorously in agreement* Democrat here, guest is totally right, we libs do love children with all of our hearts. We love all people. You know what Paul? We fought the good fight to give your wife the right to abort your children before they ever became a problem in this discussion. Think about it, if she would have listened to better minds, you wouldn't have anything to complain about now.

guest
guest

You do community activism?!? So do my friends and I! Oh man, we carry signs and chant the slogans provided to us by the organizers of whatever protest and/or demonstration that we're attending at the time. It's so cool knowing that we make a difference. We often stop off at Starbucks after the protest and have a latte while we discuss the topic of the day with righteous indignation.

John Smith
John Smith

Granny says: "Does your Mexican constitution give rights to Americans illegally invading your country?"

Answer: The US stepped all over the Mexican constitution when they invaded the land and robbed Mexico of half of its territory. Who invaded who? All these kids want is and education, they have embraced this great country and want to serve it; not invade it.

guest
guest

here comes dean to backtrack on his words. first it was "they undoubtedly would have screwed it up just as bad," now it's "Mexico could and should be a thriving nation."

I can't believe that people like you exist in 2010. I wish that we had time machines so that we could send you back to nazi germany, where you belong. Your whitewashed vision of the world has no place anymore.

Dean
Dean

Mexico's corruption caused the Texas territory to secede from Mexico, but Mexico attacked the legitimate Republic of Texas to which the USA came to aid. America eventually routed Mexico even taking over Mexico City itself. The 1848 Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo signed by Mexico and the US traded the land that is TX and much of the west and southwest US for a $15M payment to Mexico.

If you don't like the deal, take it up with the Mexican government. The treaty is completely legal. Frankly, Mexico is lucky to have gotten away with as much territory as they did.

Also, frankly, Mexico would be better off if we had kept Mexico City... Had Mexico kept all the original territory, they undoubtedly would have screwed it up just as bad, if not worse, than they have done with the territory they have now.

guest
guest

and dean's racist diatribe is exactly the reason we need to fund hispanic studies courses in school which teach the truth about the importance of the proud Mexican people, not the racist and bigoted viewpoint of the white power structure. furthermore, it's ample evidence that our textbooks need to be overhauled so that impressionable minds do not have to read anything resembling dean's sickening fantasies.

Dean
Dean

Typical. You can't repudiate what I wrote or even put up a decent rational argument to support your position, so you resort to ad hominem - even calling me a racist and bigot. I pity you. You are clearly so weak that those who disagrees with you and calls you on your lies and distortions just have to be racists in your mind.

Mexico could and should be a thriving nation. It is not - by a long shot. That is the fault of the leadership there and the people. And just to be clear, Mexico has many races including white. They speak Spanish, but they are white.

antonio
antonio

Hate America, Hate the whites, but demand we let you in OUR country. Go back home and fix the sewer that is Mexico. Your problem is your home country, not living off of us. BTW, I framed houses when I was 25 for 6 bucks an hour so your " doing work that no one else will do" doesn't wash here, ADDIOS!

guest
guest

Antonio, as the top liberal in my neighborhood, I can tell you that our Mexican neighbors do not hate you or me, a white liberal democrat. Any unrest in the Hispanic community is simply the result of our not giving enough in the first place. There are no illegal people. Don't you want to help humanity? Seriously, drop love, not bombs. Peace out.

guest
guest

"Tim'es a waistin'"is this some some sort of comment on the waistlines of our mexican neighbors, stephen?shame on you. as a lifelong liberal, I'm appalled at your lack of sensitivity.

Julian Del Real-Calleros
Julian Del Real-Calleros

Karl Rover, your such an idiot. I bet your one of those people who are giving a pad to the back of Julian Assange for release federal diplomatic document and that he has freedom of speech. He's not an American!! The first Amendment doesn't apply to him as well as it doesn't apply to illegal aliens. The Constitution doesn't apply to non- U.S. Citizens. Resident can't practice most of our Constitution rights. If your illegally in the country, you have no right to be receiving government program benefits or damning rights. You want to be treated equally under the law? Then face your crime and pay the sentence by being deported.

The United States immigration law in the softest there is. If you enter Mexico or live in Mexico illegally, you get punish by being sentence to 2 years in federal prison. Re-enter the country illegally again, you serve 10 years. If any Mexican citizen helps or harbors an illegal alien or aliens, they are consider criminal and enemy to the state. They are punish by having to serve 5 years in prison.

Stand in line and enter the country the legal way. I understand the suffrage of these students, but don't put the pressure of your misfortunes on the American people; take it to your criminal parents. Senators and Congressman are suppose to serve the American people, not illegals. And I'm tried of Latinos making this their issue and "civil rights movement". First of all, do not compare this Dream Act movement to the African-American movement of the 60's. African-American are Citizens of the United States and deserve to be treated equal under the law. Their are many illegals in this country who are not Mexican or any other Latin American country. There are Asians, Europeans, Africans (not African-American), and even Canadians. So don't thing your more superior than these other ethnicities.

Rob
Rob

"If you enter Mexico or live in Mexico illegally, you get punish by being sentence to 2 years in federal prison.."

Bullshit. It's a $461 fine. At worst. Usually they put you on a bus and send you back. If even that.

"If any Mexican citizen helps or harbors an illegal alien or aliens, they are consider criminal and enemy to the state. They are punish by having to serve 5 years in prison."

Bullshit again. This punishment is only reserved for those who do it for profit: human smuggling. What are US penalties for human smuggling? Up to 10 years with a current proposal for mandatory minimum of 10 years per CHARGE. Mexico's government has SET UP groups and agencies to HELP immigrants.

That's just the first couple. You would greatly help yourself to get your facts straight before you post. But, I've noticed facts are not an item of great concern to most that support your view. You clearly have the greatest source of information available at your fingertips...USE IT.

Finally...if you like Mexico's immigration policies so much and think they are so ideal...move there. Isn't that what your side always says?

windtalker
windtalker

YOU LIE!

Illegal immigrants in Mexico will avoid jailMEXICO CITY — Mexico will no longer jail illegal immigrants. A measure that takes effect Tuesday eliminates jail time for illegal immigrants caught in Mexico. Most are crossing the country from Central America on their way to the U.S. Undocumented immigration will now be considered a minor offense, punishable by fines equal to $100 to $500. Illegal immigrants previously faced up to 10 years in prison, although most were simply deported. Mexican legislators who backed the revision say Mexico's previous penalties complicated efforts to lobby the U.S. to improve its treatment of Mexican illegal immigrants.

http://www.tulsaworld.com/news...

Digital Immigration Card Shows Mexico's Progressive Views on Immigration

http://news.newamericamedia.or...

MomTaxpayerCitizen
MomTaxpayerCitizen

These foreigners are taking advantage of U.S. citizens and as long as America caves in and allows the handouts and amnesties, it's not going to stop.

Pit Boss
Pit Boss

Someone's taken her Geritol! Don't worry Granny. The kids who are willing to defend you with their own lives aren't going to hurt you

guest
guest

I'm quite frightened about the threats of rioting coming from our friends from south of the border. As a committed liberal, I loathe violence and will do anything to avoid it, up to and including calling everybody who will listen and telling them to give these mexicans whatever they want so that they will not hurt me.

Pit Boss
Pit Boss

Don't feed the troll. She will just get fatter.

Mary
Mary

If we have to fight the illegals then fight them we will! Stop being an ignorant whimp!!!Americans have always had to fight for the freedoms we have and enjoy! Illegals came across our border ILLEGALLY what part of that don't you UNDERSTAND?????

Ted
Ted

When you get your head out of your fat white ass, you will find that you don't have to fight illegals at all. But then that presupposes that you are actually smart enough to dislodge your cranium from the dark storage space you put it in all those years ago Mary dear.

guest
guest

hello? civilization to Mary. We envision world peace, not fighting with our good neighbors.naziracistbigot much?

guest
guest

please call everybody! these mexicans CANNOT get by without our help! they will wither and die if the pasty white liberal population does not do something. We can't let these people go to mexico, I mean, have you seen mexico and the poeple who live there? It's a fate worse than death to send anybody to mexico. Open your hearts and your wallets today. Buy an illegal family of 10 a tasty burrito lunch and reassure them, that you, the big, smart, white liberal will take care of them.

Karl Rover
Karl Rover

Oh yeah, I forgot - We need to reduce the size of the federal government " unless you are Mexican" (cause we need more programs and staff to get rid of you). We need to reduce regulations on business " unless you are Mexican". How do these morons justify all this make business easier stuff and then turn around and say "we get to tell you who you can hire". Then they oppose a minimum wage, while screaming about corporations that are reducing costs and pay to stay alive. Then they complain about corps sending jobs overseas and demand that govt do something about it, but preach govt restraint in regulations. Read the cover story in Popular Mechanics about the China plan. When the first missile flys, the US will be begging mexican workers to come her to fill jobs here, maybe even recruit them to fight because there wont be enough people to mount a defense. I hope the Mexicans say shove it.

Karl Rover
Karl Rover

Russell Pearce says that God gave us our rights, echoing the founding fathers intent and confirming that life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness are the core of those rights. Some how, Russell and those of his ilk, think that they are God and can take those rights away if you are Mexican. Just add "unless you are Mexican" to just about any patriotic phrase and the nativist intent is apparent. All men are created equal " unless you are Mexican". People have rights that the federal govt cant take away "unless you are Mexican". We are a christian nation " unless you are Mexican". The US supports capitalism " unless you are Mexican".

MomTaxpayerCitizen
MomTaxpayerCitizen

Does your Mexican constitution give rights to Americans illegally invading your country?

Doris Thompson
Doris Thompson

dont be stupid!!! many of those kids came here because their ignorant parents brought them here, with out they even knowing...and those ignorant parents are the one doing all the dirty job that ignorants like you dont wanna do...!! or woulg you stop doing what your doing now and get a job cutting grass on a hot summer day? would you do the hard construction work, with a low paying salary? would you start cleaning toilets and doing maitetaince work, again with a low paying job? I know the answer to all of these question is NO!!! NO!! NOOOOO!!! so please! skeak, and write when you have a good positive point to express...dont just open your mouse to talk trash!!!

Polymarchs®
Polymarchs®

Doris Thompson...Not all the Mexicans who come to USA are ignorants, and is not a shame to ckean toilets as long as you are getting a honest job, no matter how low or hard is.I started doing that job, but I learned english and adapted to your culture, beside I'm a educated person (2 years Chemical Engineering at a University in Mexico City), now I have a good job, two houses, two new cars and a nice family and teach my two sons respect to others, pride to be Mexican-americans, take them to Church and help there and when is in our possibilities, help those in need, no matter race and they always are in the Principal's list at their school for their good grades.

Granny and all others who share the same feelings against Mexicans...You do that for your family ?Do you take the time for help your sons or daughters with their homework ?Do you teach them to be a good citizens for "your" country ?Or instead of that you teach them to hate others the way you do ?

Regarding to your friends...You can contact me and I will give them a job at the place that I work as a dishwashers for minimum salary, but you have to garantee they are going to be able to keep the job for at least a month, because probably they are going to quit in the first week, and I'm telling you because I deal with this problem very often.

Polymarchs®

MomTaxpayerCitizen
MomTaxpayerCitizen

One thing I've noticed about you foreigners, if Americans don't share your opinions and enjoy having their children's futures robbed by illegal invaders, you call us either ignorant, stupid or racists. I don't think asking Karl if he thought we would be treated better in his country is talking trash. The answer, of course, is we would be behind bars if we acted the same way you foreigners here illegally act in our country. And by the way, I have friends who would love to have the jobs you described above because theirs were taken by illegal immigrants.

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