DREAM Act Demise: Republicans, the Enemies of Christmas

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Alaska Senator Lisa Murkowski: Living proof that not all GOPers hate Latinos
I've always wondered who the Republicans hate more: Latinos or gays?

Now that the DREAM Act has failed a cloture vote in the U.S. Senate, while the effort to end Don't Ask Don't Tell succeeded, I guess we know.

Naturally, I'm more surprised by the latter than the former, but maybe I shouldn't be. There are likely more Republican gays than Republican Latinos nowadays. But ultimately, the GOP will rue its obstructionism in this matter.

Betraying their anti-slavery, anti-states' rights roots, the Republican Party -- the party of Abraham Lincoln and Dwight D. Eisenhower -- has become the party of reactionary white folks and a smattering of non-white stooges. 

Thing is, eventually -- perhaps as soon as 2050 -- Caucasians will no longer make up the majority of Americans.

Of course, 2050 is a long way off, and since Latinos are not yet the power at the polls that they should be, the GOP can afford to overlook them, even on an issue like the DREAM Act, which should be a nonpartisan no-brainer. 

The Democrats are not blameless. Five of them defected to the other side in the DREAM Act vote. Those five votes would have been enough to allow the Dems to lower the cloture boom, and cut off a threat of a filibuster.

But it was only a "threat" of a GOP filibuster Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid faced on the DREAM Act. Why not let Republican Senators pull a real filibuster, right before the holidays, holding up other important legislation?

The spectacle of the Republinuts denying undocumented kids, brought here through no fault of their own, a shot at legalizing their status, would have been an instructive one for the nation to observe.

The U.S. Senate has seen real filibustering before, where Senators talked nonstop in order to keep the debate going, and delay a vote on the legislation at hand. 

Most recently, Independent Senator Bernie Sanders from Vermont filibustered the White House tax deal with Congressional Republicans, speaking for nine hours on the Senate floor. If the GOP had filibustered the DREAM Act, it would have been far more effective, as the Senators would be able to trade off speaking.

All the same, I wish the Dems had called the Repugnuts' bluff. The tuskers would've been the enemies of Christmas. Well, they are, mostly, but in a filibuster, it would have been that much more obvious.

Not all Republicans hate Hispanics -- the ethnic group that claims the majority of DREAMers. Indiana GOPer Dick Lugar, a longtime DREAM Act proponent, crossed lines to vote with Senate Dems, as did Senators Lisa Murkowski of Alaska and Bob Bennett of Utah, both Republicans.

Kudos to them. Their votes cast even more shame on those Dems who turned coat, and voted with the other side.

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Sordoaz
Sordoaz

20 years ago, feederal offer visas for students to come in US, they give 100,000 visas per year... 20 years x 100k immigration visas = 2 millions illegal immigrations that dont return back and overstayed or hurry into get married so they get green card.... 2 millions x adverage of 4 family when married and have kids... all total near 8 millions.... compare to more than millions of immigrations come to Ellis Island years ago... they are most Europeans..... i got an interest one, of friend from Germany who get visa to visit U S A, but not a student visa, she have to go back after it expired, but she hurried to find a new man and got married fast, now her nan is fix green card for her... this look like they can get visa, but latinos is hard to get visa, also asians tooo hard to get visa.... this is why they have to cross border, or boat from asia... bec they dont get visa easy, but german woman can get it easy, but she did not return... what the point? She got dream! Other dont get tge same dream?

Patriotic_Legal_US_citizen.
Patriotic_Legal_US_citizen.

Traitors in La Raza's pockets: http://washingtonscene.thehill...And traitor's 'friends': http://washingtonscene.thehill...Paul Pelosi, Ambassador Carlos Pascual, U.S. Ambassador to MexicoJohn A. Pérez, Speaker of the Assembly, State of California Antonio Villaraigosa, Mayor, City of Los AngelesDolores C. Huerta, co-founder of the United Farm WorkersMs. Rosa Rosales, President, League of United Latin American CitizensDr. Elena Rios, President and CEO, National Hispanic Medical AssociationRev. Luis Cortes, President and CEO, Esperanza USAArturo Vargas, President, NALEOMadeleine Albright, Former U.S. Secretary of StateJim Jones, Former U.S. Ambassador to MexicoHenry Munoz, Chair of the Commission for a National Museum of the American LatinoAli Noorani, Executive Director, National Immigration Forum

Note that Ali Noorani, Executive Director, National Immigration Forum and Paul Pelosi, Ambassador Carlos Pascual, U.S. Ambassador to Mexico (yes, Nancy's husband) are hand-in-glove http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...

Ofcourse, Stephen Lemons is trying to hide the facts behind the 'Enemies' smoke-screen.

Nice try, Lemons.

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Steven
Steven

F***ing bastards.............however, I would like to give some kudos to Dick Lugar, Lisa Murkowski, and Bob Bennett, for at least having the balls to support the Dream Act, even though it failed.

selwap
selwap

The Dream act might be more palatable if the choice was only the Armed Services. As it is now, the illegals would be using up university seats that should go to taxpaying US citizens.

Coz
Coz

The sad part of all this is those that had nothing to do with coming here illegally now have to suffer for someone else's actions of 20+ years ago.

These kids have known no other life but here in the US. Have no ties to Mexico, no place to live or work in Mexico, and many probably don't even speak the language.

So now all these assholes that voted against the dream act just want to ship them back and dump them on the streets of Mexico.

What a bunch of fucking assholes all those are that voted against this.

dimitre
dimitre

The GOP is the part of no, the party of angry old white southern males who blame their failures in life on "others". Thank God Billy Bob is on the wrong side of history and demographics. thank God they have already lost, they just don't know it yet. Both Univision and Telemundo interrupted their regular programming on Saturday to show the Dream Act vote. Hispanics in the United States know for a fact that Republicans hate Latinos. I don'k care how many Steele's, and Rubio's they hire. The GOP has already defined itself as the party of anrgy WASPs. On Saturday, tbhey wrote their obituary, they just don't know it yet!

Solarhiker
Solarhiker

Thing is, eventually -- perhaps as soon as 2050 -- Caucasians will no longer make up the majority of Americans.

It's better to have the Latinos than the blacks.

Earthdayaz
Earthdayaz

Stephen:

You ask: "Why not let Republican Senators pull a real filibuster, right before the holidays, holding up other important legislation?"

Okay, Stephen, let's talk. You're a smart guy - did you really need to ask the above question?

In this legislature, the strategy of the Republicants has been, for almost the entire Obama presidency, to obstruct all legislation that has anything to do with campaign promises made by President Obama. You know this to be true and so do I as does the rest of the nation. Their idea is to prevent ANY of President Obama's initiatives from coming into fruition thinking that they can claim to have prevented them. The Republicants have actually failed miserably in this regard - 80% of President Obama's campaign promises have been fulfilled or partially fulfilled.

The reason the Republicant can get away with this abdication of their legal responsibility to safeguard our Nation is that their supporters are ignorant enough and selfish enough to go along with this strategy AND re-elect them next cycle.

Your silly suggestion that the Leaders of our House and Senate assist the Republicants in their delay, dodge and disable strategy is way off base. Your reasoning is as follows, the Republicants want to delay proceedings and disable the presidency, so let's help them by tying up the Senate for 24 hours so other important legislation can't be heard that there ARE the votes there to pass.

Stephen, if the votes aren't available to pass legislation - they aren't there. Forcing an "old fashioned" filibuster, like Bernie Sanders recently engaged in for 9 hours to stop the "milk the poor - feed the rich" tax bill, will simply play into the Republicant's hands!

If Harry Reid had done what you're suggesting, I'm guessing thousands of pundits like yourself (and probabaly you too) would be condemning him for holding up other valuable and necessary legislation (e.g., the START II Treaty).

I've seen you try to make this case before and I have attributed the thought to some hormonal (testostorone?) shift that takes place in your body at some regular interval or PERIOD. It's always neat to think that forcing the filibuster might be rad, but then I have a second thought and say to myself, that's just my junk talkin!

guest
guest

I'm so disappointed that the dream act failed :(I called and called my senators pleading with them to take care of these helpless, yet still very proud, mexican youngsters. I take a little solace in the fact that, going forward, it will be much easier to get a blowjob in the barracks, but until a gay illegal alien can openly service a soldier, the struggle continues.

Sampson
Sampson

Is there a story in here somewhere? Why does New Times continue to write this guy a pay check? Every single story is always based around one of the following:

1) Joe Arapio2) Andrew Thomas3) Protecting illegal aliens (anti-SB 1070)4) Russell Pierce

Now Republicans are anti-Christmas because they want to uphold federal law? Cut me a break moron....

F Paola23
F Paola23

Dream act wasn't even passed so what the hell is everyone still fighting about!!!

Mistalee
Mistalee

The DREAM Act is a dream for the Pentagon, which would guarantee a steady flow of Hispanic cannon fodder for the oil wars. Better still, they speak Spanish, and are ready-made for the invasion of Venezuela, Bolivia and Cuba.

Screw that.

I support those who came here as kids getting their citizenship if they are good citizens. I don't support the DREAM Act, as the majority of the kids effected would simply be victims of a de facto poverty draft for the brown.

Joe
Joe

The American people have spoken ! ENOUGH SAID !

Dave Francis
Dave Francis

Tea Party will fight any kind of illegal immigration AMNESTY

In seeing that the Dream Act failed to gain enough votes in the Senate, it is now way past time that the 2006 Secure Fence Act was taken seriously. The provisions of the Act that were sacrificed soon after the law was borne by Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchinson (R-TX), Coyrn (R-TX) and the majority of Liberal Democrats. These politicians amended the bill by cutting funding, to the--REAL--border fence that never materialized. I'm sure now the propagating Tea Party will introduce the Double border fence, with the internal barrier electrified, which would be a major deterrent to the illegal immigration invasion. This would have been an Amnesty, through--CHAIN MIGRATION--for millions of immediate family members sponsored by students? A new revised Dream Act may pass in the future, without chain migration. I think most moderate Conservatives have seen, stealth and the hidden loopholes in the agenda. ALL THOSE WHO VOTED FOR THE DREAM ACT, WILL BE VIVIDLY REMEMBERED IN THE NEXT REELECTION PERIOD IN AN ADVERSE LIGHT.

Additionally Senator Reid crushed a mandatory E-Verify program that was developed to eject illegal aliens out of the workplace, which has been compromised by fraudulent ID. Both laws could be greatly enhanced by the federal government mandated the 287(g) that gives enforcement authority to the local State, county and local police to arrest and detain. It’s time the federal administrations began immigration enforcement and stop catering to foreign nationals with public entitlements and mass amnesty of any kind. Now both Democrats and Republicans better begin to contribute to American citizens-legal residents, instead of special interests and open border zealots. Gain more understanding of the illegal alien occupancy at NumbersUSA. Annually most Americans are unaware that 1.5 million legal newcomers settle in this nation, with "god Knows" how many illegal aliens to supplement the irreversible overpopulation. Most legal immigrants are heralded in by the Microsoft Bill Gates of America, in lower wage jobs. So it’s hard for me to understand why these billionaire business owners don't hire US citizens and green card holders already here, to fill job opportunities or even organize national training programs?

In conclusion--even though the Dream Act failed, these scholars or any young man or women, can join the armed forces simply by going to the nearest armed forces recruiting offices in time of conflict under 8 USC § 1440. If they want their citizenship the Afghanistan war or the potential chance of fighting a war against North Korea opens the door for them. It’s a misnomer that they need the Dream Act to show their courage and skills of leadership. The recruiting Sergeant is waiting for you?

Ex. Ord. No. 13269. Expedited Naturalization of Aliens and Non-citizen Nationals Serving in an Active-Duty Status during the War on Terrorism: Signed by President Bush of July 3, 2002

Bot_feeder
Bot_feeder

By the way, if the progressives had accepted political reality and put together an honest version of the Dream Act it probably would be getting signed into law by President Obama right now.

However, they have been tone deaf to political realities and insist on pushing their extremist agenda until the security guard escorts them out the door in January.

Unfortunately for illegal alien kids, the next session of Congress won't be supportive of a Dream Act of any kind, even an honest one.

Bot_feeder
Bot_feeder

Hey that's a new one as far as a political tactic. "Playing the Christmas card".

JohnCharles
JohnCharles

Your comments are out of line. Rather than adding to the discussion and setting the stage for its eventual passage by convincing reasonable men and women, you reach into the scum bag of complaint, name-calling, and cynicism. You also view it solely from the angle of power, i.e. how many Hispanics live in this country. This legislation will eventually pass because it is the ultimately reasonable step to take, but your approach is hateful and cynical. These characteristics frequent the political debate too often. In a word: back off unless you can contribute to the debate legitimately.

Bb Britel
Bb Britel

Armando Navarro, Prof. Ethnic Studies, UC Riverside at Latino Summit Response to Prop 187, UC Riverside, 1/1995 "These are the critical years for us as a Latino community. We're in a state of transition. And that transformation is called 'the browning of America'. Latinos are now becoming the majority. Because I know that time and history is on the side of the Chicano/Latino community. It is changing in the future and in the present the balance of power of this nation. It's a game - it's a game of power - who controls it. You (to MEChA students) are like the generals that command armies. We're in a state of war. This Proposition 187 is a declaration of war against the Latino/Chicano community of this country. They know the demographics. They know that history and time is on our side. As one community, as one people, as one nation within a nation as the community that we are, the Chicano/Latino community of this nation. What this means is a transfer of power. It means control."

Joker
Joker

What kind of author writes this stuff. Thirty-five year old GED illegals are not going to contribute to society. Great we should just keep adding people who didn't pay for social services like medicare, welfare, and social security. We don't hate immigrants just illegal activity on the border. Stop the tears. I think most are for adding more guest worker programs, stop the drug trade, and getting citizens from other countries that aren't 35 year high school students.

Bb Britel
Bb Britel

"Thing is, eventually -- perhaps as soon as 2050 -- Caucasians will no longer make up the majority of Americans."

When illegal squatters start flaunting the end result of their invasion, isnt it time to consider deportation of ALL illegal aliens? I saw an article where some DREAM students, dissapointed with the saturday vote vow 'Revolution'. So how does this work - if they win WE have to obey THEIR law, but if THEY lose, then it's REVOLUTION! No respect for law at all - just a power grab, any way they can get it

I saw a clip on some show on the TRUtv cable channel, in Brazil, where a huge group of squatters waving red flags was rushing a farmhouse, shooting at the owners, who bravely repelled them back. That is their culture, and this is our future, angry mobs who recognise no rule of law but the laws THEY make, with never ending and increasing demands.

Allan
Allan

Most universities and virtually all community colleges can accommodate all who meet the minimun entrance requirements. However, if a A+ DREAMer took the seat of a D- student, well, I think that is an improvement.

Sainteve
Sainteve

The debate regarding illegal immigration does not show any sign of calming, particularly in light of the recent election and the DREAM Act legislation. As a conservative Hispanic, I want to clarify and underscore a conservative's position on this debate. This is a debate is not about race or the “browning of America.” It is about a sovereign nation controlling its borders. Every nation has the right and duty to control and defend its borders, and so does the United States.National security is critical. Terrorists want to enter the U.S. to harm Americans. Cartels want to bring violence and drugs here. Securing the border is the best way to protect our citizens and prevent dangerous people from entering. We need to verify the identities and whereabouts of all immigrants in our country. Liberals claim immigration law enforcement will lead to racial profiling and discrimination against Hispanics. However, if someone is stopped during a routine traffic issue, he or she should be able to produce a valid ID and proof of insurance, like everyone else. Illegal immigrants must be turned over to federal authorities and deported.Jobs are the incentive for foreign workers to come here. The solution is to penalize employers who hire illegal immigrants and start a guest worker program where employers, in concert with immigration law enforcement officials, contract with workers to come here temporarily and return to their homeland when they're through.This would be safer for workers than using smugglers. They wouldn't be “trapped” in the U.S. and could return to their country and family. Unfortunately, liberal unions disagree. They want guaranteed wages and benefits for low-skilled jobs to be on par with skilled and educated workers. Apparently, they would like to create a workers' paradise. What about children brought here or born to illegal immigrants? The U.S. is not an orphanage. These children are victims of their parents' illegal behavior. We can't offer amnesty through the DREAM Act in the near future, only to have another DREAM Act in 20 years. Amnesty was granted in 1986. Now liberals and activists want another one for an even larger group of people. Enough is enough.

Sainteve
Sainteve

Well "Latino's" are Caucasians, so your point is ....

As a proud American of Hispanic descent, I have friends, colleagues and employees of all nationalities. Color of skin does not make a person, their allegiance to America makes them Americans.

For all of those who have no better argument than playing the race card, please note there are only three true "race" classifications; Caucasian, African and Asian.

Tommy Collins
Tommy Collins

That is an incredibly ignorant remark regarding Latinos and blacks.

Seeforyourself
Seeforyourself

Clearly, your brain has been hiked across the surface of the sun. But, I must be careful that I don't call your comment racist, because the current neo-con response would be to accuse me of racism, since I was the first to raise the subject. So, I won't call you a racist. I'll settle for "You are a disgusting moron!"

RPearceBLOWS
RPearceBLOWS

enough of this gentleman's agreement bullhockey. we see how well that works. i agree w/Bird we should call the Republicants bluff. cuttin deals with them, letting them get their way on dream act. as russell p. wld say, Enuff is enuff!!!

Tommy Collins
Tommy Collins

Well, Sampson, who do you think is feeding the fodder trough for Mr. Lemons? Yes, the answer is ALL four, including Pearce, whose name you misspelled.

Allan
Allan

Because the DREAMers are still educating themselves and want to earn legal status in their home, the U.S.

Steven
Steven

I hold no brief for Pentagon abuses here, but I'll still support the Dream Act, as that it'll give a chance for people to become citizens.

Tommy Collins
Tommy Collins

Yep, Joe. Just like that, huh? Now we who have the ability to think outside the minimalist Republican box must cower to you and go back to our corners and sulk over the vote. Not a chance.....

Allan
Allan

The DREAMers cannot enlist:"U.S. citizens or Permanent Resident Aliens (people who have an INS I-151/I-551 “Green Card”) may join the U.S. Military. For more information about citizenship, visit the U.S. Immigration and Nationalization (INS) website."source: http://www.todaysmilitary.com/...

windtalker
windtalker

There is nothing wrong with the Dream Act. It has been worked on by both Republicans and Democrats for the last 10 uears. The same Nativists, who are members of white-nati­­onalist hate group like, (Alipac, FAIR, NumbersUSA et al,) are coached by their leaders to spam phone lines to their reprisenta­­tives in congress and sent out to different forums and blogs to spew misinforma­­tion and lies to block any sort of Immigratio­­n reform.

We tell all kids to stay in school, stay out of trouble, but we are like Lucy, who takes away the football from Charlie Brown. Then -- get this, WE are shocked at the high rate of Hispanics who drop out of school and WE end up supporting them, because WE refuse to give them a chance to do it themselves.

The problem is that unless there is a TRUTHFULL degree of balance in the presentati­­on of immigrant life, hardships, contributi­­ons, risks, viewpoints­­, people end up building an impression fed by words like "illegal," free tuition," and "handouts.­­"

It sounds great. Let's get tough on Mexicans who committed misdemeano­­rs and hold them up to standards for which we do not hold up Europeans who started illegal immigratio­­n.

As a society we have let a mass mentality stoked by false perception­­s shape our thoughts. We see the Pilgrims as nobles, not illegals, but we see kids of people who have committed a misdemeano­­r as devils.”

Tommy Collins
Tommy Collins

In my opinion, JohnCharles, your statement typifies the greatest weakness of the Democratic party today. There is nothing wrong with Mr. Lemons writing a story that stirs debate. As long as debate continues the subject won't die the death that the Republican party would like to see. As long as the story, as written, doesn't victimize anyone it's just a matter of sticks and stones, but words will never hurt.

I think your attitude suggests that it can all be worked out with a few discussions during the afternoon tea. In my opinion the legislation will only pass when the elected pool becomes one of a majority of independent thinkers, as opposed to headstrong Republicans and weak kneed Democrats. Imagine how much might get done if each candidate could serve for just ONE term and didn't have to worry about being re-elected.

windtalker
windtalker

Get your facts straight. It's 30 year olds that are included in Dream Act because they were 20 years old when the Dream Act was first formed in 2001. As children they were told to go to school and get good grades, when they turned 20 they found out the only way they could make it here was to let you support them, since you are opposed to giving them a chance to support themselves.

Mistalee
Mistalee

"Great we should just keep adding people who didn't pay for social services like medicare, welfare, and social security."

You are not a joker, just a joke.

Most who work in this country illegally do so with fake Social Security numbers. This means that deductions are taken for state and federal income taxes, and they do pay into Medicare and social security - but because they are using fake SS numbers, they are paying into a system what will not give them any benefits.

jenna
jenna

I'll bet you voted for our uneducated "I have did" governor.

amg9
amg9

A 35 year olf GED illegal may not contribute according to you... but what about a 26 year old that has been here since the age of 10 with now a BS in Accounting AND MBA who only wants to become a CPA but her status won't allow... would I not be an asset to this country if given a chance??

windtalker
windtalker

It’s a dirty little secret but the first illegal aliens in Texas came from Tennessee. Stephen Austin, the father of Anglo Texas, received permission in 1823 to bring “300 families” into the Tejas province after years of wrangling with the Mexican government. By that time, tens of thousands more Anglo squ@. tters had moved into the region. These illegal immigrants, mostly from Tennessee, thumbed their noses at the Mexican government when asked to leave – or at least pay their taxes. When General Santa Anna moved his troops north to evict these squ@. tters, just over a hundred of them holed up in place called the Alamo while the rest retreated to form an army under Sam Houston. Only a military victory over the Mexican army made the Anglo squ@. tters of Texas “legal.” So let’s not get too high on our horses about “illegal immigrants.” We’ve been there and done that. The final piece of law breaking which we revere today was perpetrated by British citizens who openly disobeyed the laws of Parliament and king, refused to pay taxes, and formed an insurgent army in 1776. Ironically, today’s self-styled patriots who have taken it upon themselves to protect our borders from the illegal hor. des call themselves The Minutemen. http://raulramosysanchez.blogs...

guest
guest

none of that matters. everybody is a racist when libtards disagree with them. little things like facts don't ever seem to get in the way or cause any shame on the party who misuses the word racist.

I think you might be a racist just for typing out the three classifications. bigot is a better, or at least more accurate buzzword for the libtards to adopt, however, the word bigot also applies to libtards so they'll have to do some re-defining on that word too.

Earthdayaz
Earthdayaz

No "gentleman's agreement", just realistic solutions RP. It's ignorant to hold up action on Senate legislation that DOES have votes to pass and force a filibuster. In many cases, a slight delay in bringing a bill to the floor can be helpful in getting the matter passed through a slight compromise. That's what the Senate is all about. If you support our constitution and the republic, you'll support our legislative process as it was designed. Stop pushing the negative hate buttons and start educating yourself and others about how this provision of the Senate Rules is used to help our nation keep those haz mat (including nuclear reactors) facilities buttoned down and people in countries we've pissed off from attacking the US and our allies.

Better yet, educate yourself here:

http://www.senate.gov/referenc...

guest
guest

wow! look at tommy the schoolmarm go! I bet he wears sensible shoes too.

Equityct
Equityct

You're an idiot, AllenFuck off.

Tommy Collins
Tommy Collins

I wonder if we support any more Hispanics who are non-citizens, than we do multi-racial citizens who simply choose not to work, make lots of welfare babies, and live off the government teat? It may be interesting to get actual statistics from welfare agencies on the number of 'citizens' we are supporting...

Rob
Rob

Don't worry....statistics show the United States is very adept at producing US citizen 35 year olds' with GED's....well, most won't have the GED but that's a minor detail.

Steven
Steven

True, but only thing is, we were basically under military occupation...........so we did have to right to revolt in 1776.

Steven
Steven

You are an absolute idiot.............hey, white nationalists call everybody who disagree with them, 'anti-white'. Do you have a problem with that? Or are you a hypocrite?

Tommy Collins
Tommy Collins

You just wish you could join my greatness, eh, guest? Life's a beach...

Tommy Collins
Tommy Collins

You reply to the guy, having misspelled his name which is displayed in front of you as you type, and you refer to him as an idiot?

Nicely done, Equity... you showed your true colors.

windtalker
windtalker

And these kids are not able to support themselves here because they cant work and even less in a foreign country where even the language is foreign to them. They have committed no crime to be punished this way. They have every right to protest unjust laws that will eventually starve them to death unless you and I provide for them. I don't want to provide for them, I have my own family to look after. I would much rather they be given a chance to provide for themselves.

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