Paul Babeu's Joe Arpaio Probe: Who Pays for It?

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Should Babeu get funds from Maricopa County to pay for the Munnell memo inquiry?

Who will pick up the tab for Pinal County Sheriff Paul Babeu's investigation into the allegations made in MCSO Deputy Chief Frank Munnell's memo? And should Maricopa County pay for any of it, particularly considering the PCSO's past record concerning internal investigations, specifically the mysterious "wounding" of PCSO Deputy Louie Puroll?

These questions are pertinent because, according to e-mails between Maricopa and Pinal County officials that I've obtained, Pinal wants Maricopa to fund at least part of the investigation.

Last week, Babeu's spokesman Tim Gaffney informed me that the MCSO and the Maricopa County Attorney's Office had agreed to foot the bill for the Munnell memo inquiry.

However, MCAO spokesman Bill Fitzgerald related that the C.A. has agreed to reimburse Pinal County Attorney Jim Walsh just for civil legal advice related to the investigation, and nothing else.

What about the MCSO, which sent the investigation to the PCSO, rather than an agency better equipped to handle it, like the Arizona Department of Public Safety? Will the MCSO cough up the moolah necessary out of its own embattled budget? 

According to an e-mail sent to Pinal County Manager Terry Doolittle by deputy Maricopa County Manager Sandi Wilson, the MCSO doesn't want to pay.

"I have also had several conversations with our County Attorney Rick Romley and the Maricopa County Sheriff's Interim Chief Deputy Jerry Sheridan," Wilson wrote on Thursday. "The Sheriff's Office does not want to pay for the costs and the County Attorney has stated that he will pay for cost of the civil advice component only."

Doolittle was looking for Maricopa County to agree to fund the investigation, at least partially, according to his e-mails to the county. 

In a message Doolittle sent to Babeu and forwarded to Maricopa County Manager David Smith, he explains what he wants from Maricopa County.

"I discussed today with David Smith, Maricopa County Manager, the process to request Maricopa County pay for any expenses relating to non legal advice," Doolittle tells Babeu. "Mr. Smith requested the expense request be reviewed by Maricopa County prior to engaging services (i.e. investigator, etc.) to determine if Maricopa County will pay for the service."

Concerning this request, Smith writes to Wilson, "This is about pre-clearing any out of pocket investigation expenses to reimburse Pinal. I believe they will absorb in-house staff costs."

Thing is, I don't think the county should pay dime one for this sham investigation. Not only is Babeu an ally of Sheriff Arpaio, if you read my colleague Paul Rubin's account of the PCSO's inquiry into the Puroll incident, the PCSO's credibility on that investigation is in serious doubt.

For instance, PCSO did not send Puroll's shirt to the DPS crime lab to be analyzed for gunshot residue, which forensics experts say would have helped determine if Puroll shot himself

(Note: According to a breaking news story, the PCSO will now send the shirt to DPS, because of Rubin's report. Which suggests that they should do the same with the Munnell matter: Send it to DPS.)

Did the PCSO and Babeu really want to get to the bottom of the Puroll matter? And does anyone really think Babeu wants to follow the investigation of the Munnell memo all the way to Arpaio himself?

"Certainly the findings in the Puroll investigation raise some issues about transparency," Maricopa County spokeswoman Cari Gerchick explained. "I think Maricopa County would take that into consideration.

Gerchick said the Board of Supervisors would have to vote on the matter if it involves an Intergovernmental Agreement, even if the MCSO offered to pay for the inquiry out of its own budget.

Doolittle was not available for comment. But Pinal County spokeswoman Heather Murphy told me that Pinal has its own budget woes to consider.

"It's not uncommon for governments to help each other out," she said. "In these tough times we've got to figure out what services we're required to provide, and then the extra we can take on."

If I were a taxpayer in Pinal County, I'd be ticked if I thought Pinal County coffers were going to be raided for Babeu's personal favor to Arpaio.

And considering Babeu's office's performance in the Puroll probe, Maricopa County taxpayers should be equally ticked at the prospect of paying Babeu to do a sham investigation of the MCSO.


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Paul Baboon
Paul Baboon

When I throw up... I mean grow up, I wanna be just like Sheriff Joe. OOOH, Sheriff Joe, show me your rusty old 5 shooter once more.

chris
chris

In knowing the quality (oxymoron} of our PCSO, and like other investigations by pinal over the years that they have something to hide. The evidence will without a dout will be compromised and then lost. The only explanation you will ever here from it is equivalent to the shake of a blonde's head and the famous quote " I don't know ". But what can you expect, with the total accumulated IQ of the PCSO is that of one young boy.

Tommy Collins
Tommy Collins

Two points to make regarding this issue:

(1) Any investigation reference the Munnell memo needs to be transferred, immediately to another agency.

(2) All costs associated with any investigation, internal or criminal, belong to MCSO since the employees involved are all MCSO employees and the request for investigation was initiated from within MCSO.

Bill Stoller and Gerri Cocozza
Bill Stoller and Gerri Cocozza

Many Associates are commentig on this article, and one sent an Email s/he received from a person alleging to be in Florence, Arizona, Babeu's jurisdiction. Is it Babeu himself? We don't know. Many Associates are claiming that New Times, Mike Lacy, Mr. Lemons, James King, and others are paid "propagandists" for The New World Order. They also claim that SHERIFF BABEU is on to it and these Associates are giving Babeu much information. A person claiming to be from FLORENCE, AZ, Babeu's base of operations, has also left numerous messages, but we can't determine if it's from the PCSO or a Babeu plant. Here the E-mail from "NWO Hunter in Florence," (E-mail starts off with really obscene insults and obscenities about New Times, Mike Lacy, "The Fat Fucktard," James King, King's mother, King having sex with horses, etc.) Then s/he writes, "This webpage has a link to a GOOD download of the New World Order conspiracy theory, called "The Creature from Jekyll Island." New Times is a big part of NWO and The Fat Fucktard Lemons knows all. Hopefully Sheriff Babeu can eventually corner The Bird and interrogate his fat ass. For the real deal on the NWO, Lemons's Commander-In-Chief, go to http://current.com/news/893056... , then follow the link near the top of the page to download the audio book.. The download takes quite some time, but it's worth it - a high quality ".zip" MP3 file which you can extract and play using the free WINAMP MP3 player, also downloadable from many sites." Really bizarre stuff, but the speaker is pretty reasonable and cool. It actually makes sense -we recommend at least downloading it and listening. Still, we consider Mr. Lemons sort of a friend, often a funny writer, a harmless fat guy that eats too much. But some of these Associates are calling him a dangerous conspirator and all that, like he's trying to destroy America. We just never saw him as being that bad. HMG with JTR and TIF on the blog, online and on time.

Rollem45
Rollem45

I think you nailed this. Baldbloo could handle the Administrative stuff but pass on the Criminal. The tactic here by Arpaio and Crew was to overload the story, create too big a pile to digest. The public at large and Arpaio's support base will never take the time to read this and not understand it. But the right agency will take all the time it needs to deal with this and if that agency were seeking the truth dove tail this with the FBI and DOJ and save millions in duplications to get at the criminal sydicate that has become MCSO.

Marcy
Marcy

Babyboo, like Joe, never misses an opportunity to ask the taxpayers for more money to spend.

FormerRepublican
FormerRepublican

Based on the shoddy job that Babeu did on the deputy shooting "internal investigation" he hardly qualifies for a job of this sort.

Maricopa County should REFUSE to pay for Babeu. Instead, the money would be better spent reimbursing another agency (Phx PD, DPS...whatever) for a professional job.

Wonder if Babeu considered that the job was way too big and his way out of this mess is to reopen the deputy shooting incident? That way he could tell Joke Arpaio that his agency can't handle any more intense investigations because he's knee deep in his own internal stuff.Hm....

Coz
Coz

Bend over Maricopa County Tax Payers for Bozo Joe Arpaio, he's at it again.

TheEndIsNear
TheEndIsNear

Pinal County S.O. is not capable of taking on the exhaustive and highly complicated investigation required to examine Arpaio and the years-long systemic corrupt practices of the MCSO upper command staff. Sheriff Babeu is not an impartial party in this matter.........DPS and/or the FBI are the only logical choices. Both Sheridan and Munnell hope to keep Arpaio off of the blame line by helping to steer the "investigation" to PCSO. The Board of Supervisors need to reroute this matter to the professionals ASAP.

Truth08
Truth08

FB, you should see if you could get a link on the kpho interview with him, and the signs owners in Oracle this morn. They have gotten the Ecuadorian or Honduras consulate involved. Its good.

Regards,Truth

Gerry_C
Gerry_C

Certainly, MCSO should have gone to a neutral agency for this investigation. If an IGA is requried and funds are exchanged, Maricopa County should make sure they get their money's worth. Even if Babeu does a perfect investigation of those named in the Munnell memo, one would wonder where else it could have gone. A perfect investigation does not mean an exhaustive investigation.

One has to connect the dots that so many of Arpaio's senior staff are implicated. How can Arpaio not be involved. The investigation must be comprehensive, complete, and must include questions related to rooting out corrupt practices and persons at MCSO.

It is quite insane to think that Arpaio did not know about SCA, the abuse of power, the supervisor's and judge's charges. Arpaio was out there with Andy Thomas when Thomas was asking the press to explain bribery to him after Donahoe was charged with bribery. Arpaio did not have good answers either, but said confidently, "Sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do." Clearly, Arpaio was on board with what MCSO and MCAO had done. Hendershott was not out there giving a press conference.

Arpaio was involved and I am sure he knows he was involved and that is why he did not send it to DPS.

Babeu might do ok with this investigation, but the PCSO track record is not perfect as of late. It could be that MCSO plans to shut off the money about the time Babeu gets close to the Sheriff. Having the budget for this be completely out of MCSO's hands will add some element of credibility. Moving it would add a lot of credibility.

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