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Coward of the County: Activists Dog Joe Arpaio on Why He Won't Debate Dan Saban.

Sat Sep 27, 2008 at 11:26:05 AM


Why won't Joe debate Dan Saban? In this video, the Sheriff tells us it's none of our business.

While reporters in this town are busy feeding into the myth of Sheriff Joe Arpaio's invincibility and writing off rival Dan Saban, the anti-Joe activists out there are putting Phoenix's Fourth Estate to shame, dogging our corrupt top constable on why he won't go toe-to-toe with Saban in a debate.

This video, captured by activist Adolfo Maldonado, and edited by videographer/activist Dennis Gilman, shows Maldonado doing what all journos in this town should be doing, pressing Joe on his cowardice in blowing off Saban's challenge to debate. As I mentioned in my recent Bird column item, "Debating Dan," Saban sent Joe a registered letter in June proposing a series of debates around the county. To date, no one from the Arpaio camp has contacted Saban or Saban's campaign about the challenge. When I asked Arpaio about it weeks back at one of his book signings, he waved off the query, saying he gets lots of letters, and refused to answer follow-up questions on the topic.

In this video taken at the anti-Arpaio Wells Fargo protests downtown, Maldonado peppers the crusty lawman again and again, wondering why he won't meet his challenger on a stage. Arpaio's lame comeback? "None of your business." At one point, Arpaio even seems to threaten Maldonado with wrongful arrest, saying, "Don't be disorderly now, be careful," and ordering him out of the street, when Joe and his goons were apparently already standing off the sidewalk.

To Maldonado's credit, he stays on Arpaio's heels, following him to the other side of the street as he and his Praetorian Guard cross. Maldonado pokes at Arpaio verbally, "Just one debate, Joe...Why are you scared? You're so articulate."

Heh, good work, Adolfo. Sadly, most of the journos in this town will not challenge Joe on this or any other subject for fear of being denied access to the Sheriff's media stunts and press conferences. They forget they're the ones with the real power in the relationship between the MCSO and the Fourth Estate. The MCSO can't lock us all out, 'cause then Joe wouldn't get the publicity to which he's so deeply addicted.

Hopefully, video like this will help shame my colleagues in the local press corps to get on the stick, and hold Joe accountable. It's unacceptable that the race for the most powerful position in Maricopa County will not have a debate whereby the public can scrutinize both men. Journalists and columnists in this town should be screaming bloody murder about it. Their current silence is damning.

25 Comments:

Marcus from Mesa says:

In the last week we have seen Arpaio lie about calling San Francisco, and now he tells us it is none of our business why he wont debate Saban?

What is wrong with the local news that they don't pick this up? This video should be on Channel 12 and Horizon if we had any responsable journalists. (except for you FB)

Bye Bye Liberals says:

LIBERALS FLEE TO CANADA

PANICKED BY FEAR OF McCAIN/PALIN WIN

From the MANITOBA HERALD, Canada (a very underground paper): The flood of American liberals sneaking across the border into Canada has intensified in the past week, sparking calls for increased patrols to stop the illegal immigration.

The possibility of a McCain/Palin election is prompting the exodus among left-leaning citizens who fear they'll soon be required to hunt, pray, and agree with Bill O'Reilly.

Canadian border farmers say it's not uncommon to see dozens of sociology professors, animal rights activists and Unitarians crossing their fields at night.

I went out to milk the cows the other day, and there was a Hollywood producer huddled in the barn,' said Manitoba farmer Red Greenfield, whose acreage borders North Dakota .

The producer was cold, exhausted and hungry. 'He asked me if I could spare a latte and some free-range chicken.

When I said I didn't have any, he left. Didn't even get a chance to show him my screenplay, eh?'

In an effort to stop the illegal aliens, Greenfield erected higher fences, but the liberals scaled them. So he tried installing speakers that blare Rush Limbaugh across the fields. 'Not real effective,' he said. 'The liberals still got through, and Rush annoyed the cows so much they wouldn't give milk.'


Officials are particularly concerned about smugglers who meet liberals near the Canadian border, pack them into Volvo station wagons, drive them across the border and leave them to fend for themselves.

'A lot of these people are not prepared for rugged conditions,' an Ontario border patrolman said. 'I found one carload without a drop of drinking water. 'They did have a nice little Napa Valley cabernet, though.'

When liberals are caught, they're sent back across the border, often wailing loudly that they fear retribution from conservatives. Rumors have been circulating about the McCain administration establishing re-education camps in which liberals will be forced to shoot wolves from airplanes, deny evolution, and act out drills preparing them for the Rapture.

In recent days, liberals have turned to sometimes-ingenious ways of crossing the border. Some have taken to posing as senior citizens on bus trips to buy cheap Canadian prescription drugs. After catching a half-dozen young vegans disguised in powdered wigs, Canadian immigration authorities began stopping buses and quizzing the supposed senior-citizen passengers on Perry Como and Rosemary Clooney hits to prove they were alive in the '50s.

'If they can't identify the accordion player on The Lawrence Welk Show, we get suspicious about their age,' an official said.

Canadian citizens have complained that the illegal immigrants are creating an organic-broccoli shortage and renting all the good Susan Sarandon movies.

'I feel sorry for American liberals, but the Canadian economy just can't support them,' an Ottawa resident said. 'How many art-history and English majors does one country need?'

adolfo says:

Joe is scared.

Anonymous says:

Why would Joe "debate" Saban ? Saban is only a nuisance, and does not stand a chance winning in November.

And you wonder why Joe tells you "none of your business" ? Because it is none of your business, stupid.

Coz says:

What the hell does any of that have to do with the story ?
Are you drinking to much Arpaio Koolaid ?

>>Bye Bye Liberals says:

Coz says:

Arpaio the chicken shit will never debate Saban.

He can't, otherwise he would show everybody in Maricopa County what a Bozo and Baffoon he really is...

With Bozo Joke Arpaio, better to be thought a fool than to open his mouth and remove all doubt...oh wait, he already does that....


I must admit, the Bird VERY STRATEGICALLY chooses photos. That "crotch shot" of Palin, the "shrimp-eyed (credit Emil Pulsifer)" Arpaio guard in a previous video, and now this bald goon in shades. Stephen uses photo imagery well to support his anti-Arpaio stance and make the MCSO out to be a bunch of Nazis.

Stephen really KNOWS that they're not Nazis or KKK, but still makes a good argument with his misleading pictures, vicious verbiage, and nasty nuances. A true lying (or just twisting the truth a bit) defense attorney of reporting.

My point is that they released The Bird's Cage Keeper, Lacey, very quickly with no torture or permanent disfigurement. No Nazi or KKK types would have been that nice.

This current Bird video just isn't strong or effective. In addition to the repetitive, nonsubstantive, idiotic questions mentioned above, it appears to SUPPORT Dan Saban. A mistake in this Irishman's eyes.

Am I to think this Arizona native Saban is any better than Arpaio? A cowboy from the most corrupt state in the Union? He'll simply give us another form of corruption straight out of "Rawhide." As The Bird would say, "Cowboys Be Damned!"

And experience? NONE - being the Sheriiff of Buckeye doesn't count in my eyes. Nickel Bag or not, at least Arpaio has some Federal experience, as well as a diverse Northern background. That means he can deal with Mafia-types, who infest this area. Gang elements, I mean. The Cowpoke Saban will run from them or be intimidated. He's probably already in the pockets of the cartels and smugglers.

Possibly we can scratch BOTH of these guys for Sheriff, so I HEREBY NOMINATE THE BIRD, STEPHEN LEMONS!

I feel that he's a great choice. Heard he's from LA, so he definitely knows the score and can deal with gang elements. Unlike many chicken reporters, The Bird is right out there on the street. He also loves MILFs such as Palin, even when they conflict with his political/religious views. So Stephen will possibly bring good pussy to the MCSO, probably the most important reason to vote for him.

Arpaio and Saban Be Damned! I want The Bird perched on my front porch!

John "Johnny On The Spot" O'Sullivan
for "The Global Equity"

Editorial Questioner says:

FB: A while back you reported that a huge number of Republic reporters, editors, etc. were given the boot.

Is Joke's son in law one of the ones who was kicked to the curb or was he in a 'protected class' and still on board at the Republic? That would be very interesting to know...

This Republican won't vote for McCain says:

Please research the archives under McCain Keating Five and learn a little history about McCain and Arizona a state of haves and have nots -- where the middle is used at the will of those in power and they also have to pay for all the bad choices made by the elected officials who "reign" over us and do not serve the best interest of all the people.

CooperG says:

Joe Arpaio's handlers won't let the old man out of their sight for fear he's say something stupid--like on this video.

Saban would tear Arpaio apart in a debate. That's why Joe won't do it. Because he is afraid he'll lose.

˧tÅßli§hêÐ 1979® says:

What a piece of shit! Arpaio has to be the most unprofessional, ignorant and stupid person working for the county.

GO SABAN!

JOE says:

I like Dennis's videos but my problem is this blog is making him look like he is the only one getting videos out there When he is far from that I think this blog should feature some of the other videographers that are getting good videos like this

Dennis Gilman says:

Equity Court Services of Arizona,

Once again-you dont even bother getting your facts straight before you waste half a page babbling.

1) The bird did not have anything to do with the video-other than choosing to post it. I got the footage, called Saban for a quote and included it with a picture of Saban. As for the Thug who's mug shows up-that is who Arpaio hangs out with. YouTube's electronic converter randomly choses a picture to use. Also, if you watch the video, the man in the picture was polite-despite being one of Arpaio's thugs. Do some research before you make an ass of yourself next time.

2) I do not pretend to be unbiased. Its not my job. It is the mainstream media's job to cover both sides. Not Steve's or mine. They are failing you as well as everyone else. Go post there and tell them about it. If they were doing their job, I wouldn't need to put this video out.

3) Adolfo Maldonado has more Balls than any of Arpaio's thugs or racist loon's in this town. He asked the question that both sides of this debate deserve to have Arpaio answer.

The rest of your post isn't even worth discussing. It represents the logic of a moron.

Anonymous,

The last time I checked-this is a Democracy. In a Democracy-voters deserve to make informed decisions on who they vote for. Public debate is very a very important part of that. It is most definitely our business why the Coward Arpaio wont debate Dan Saban. His answers show a contempt for freedom as well as the voters of Maricopa County. He doesn't even respect you Kool-Aid drinking racists enough to give an acceptable answer.

MArcus from Mesa says:

JOE
why dont you include a link instead of just complaining?
This article is about Arpaio being afraid to debate Dan Saban. Are there more videos out there on this topic?

ameriKKKa`s nightmare says:

D.G.
I figured that's why they call em "retards". They are feebleminded Natavists. The numbskulls of the far right never really seem to get their facts straight when it comes down to the truth about that chicken-shit Arpaio. Heck, even a 15 year old could probably beat Arpay-hole in a debate. Because the way I see it, the geriatric motherfucker`s decrepit mind is detoriating to the point of no return!
Its the masses of grey haired RepubliTARDS and retrogrades who are largely responsible for keeping the Sheriff Grouch in office! But come November that will all change.
Since Arpaio is now a cowardly lion, I reckoned he gives a new meaning to the term "coward". Hence, the self proclaimed "Toughest Sheriff in America" is now the bona fide icon of a cowardice Sheriff in America.

Anonymous says:

(http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2008/09/25/aol-straw-poll-sept-25-oct-2)

In this poll McCain is a head of Obama.

Obama 39 % McCain 61 %

Also read the comments made about Obama

Anonymous says:

Well, its simple--

Only the retards won't debate.

Ol`Joe Sissy doesn't have anything to say to support himself(that's the sorry part). So the best thing he can do is simply lie to the public. That's all he's good for and nothing else.

Irony?

Yes, because its the "retards" that supports him. A retard for the mentally retarded.
And to prove the Americans wrong, then have your retarded Sheriff accept Saban`s debate. Its that simple.

Coz says:

Debate, Debate, Debate.....
Come on Arpaio, let's see how tough you really are....
Stop hiding behind you're PR Dis-Information squad of Monkey's.
Come on Chicken Shit....
Debate, Debate, Debate........

Hank Hill says:

I don't know who this Adolfo gentleman is but he is right on the money as far as I'm concerned.

Joke is afraid to debate unless he does it surrounded by the blue haired geriatrics who blindly support him. The problem is between naps and a 5:00 PM bed time those geezers aren't available.

Joke and Candy both reek of impropriety. Why in the hell do they spend so much RICO money promoting themselves if they're doing such a good job?

Joke is bankrupting the county subsidizing the cost of policing communities in order to expand his kingdom. Meanwhile the board of supervisors all turn their collective heads and cough. They're part of the problem.

Candy is another one. Not only is he a crook, he excuses Jokes rogue tactics. Whata creep.

Saban is the real deal. He has the experience and intelligence to get the job done. Maybe more importantly, he's not defecating on himslef like Joke.

Did you know Joke wears adult dipers? He does. I understand the odor permeates the entire Wells Fargo building. I wonder of Henderblimp changes his diapers.

Inbreed`s Imbecilities (311) says:

Unfortunately for the "coward of the county". The judge presiding over the case involving his contract with the town of Guadalupe told the Sheriff to suck it up despite him being criticized by Guadalupe`s leaders. In plain English, it means he can't pull out of the contract which is why the leaders of Guadalupe were sueing him for possible breach of contract. Even the judge knows the Sheriff is a pussy who can't handle criticisms very well. And I just feel sorry for that weak old fucker, I feel sorry for Maraicopa County too and the mainstream media. It is damning as the Feathered Bastard quoted.


Stephen, the others in our Internet crew are watching these blogs better than me. As I was reminded, what happened to that relevant response to Gilman? Please don't unjustly censor - it's beneath you.

Save that stuff for Ray Stern or Paul Rubin!

John "Johnny On The Spot" O'Sullivan
for "The Global Equity"

Rene says:

Joe=Scared and Ignorant.

Mary Izaguirre says:

Good Old Sheriff Joe what can we say about him - he is a good old boy that does no harm. He is the sheriff of the old west (and not very good at it either) - his way or the highway and don't get in his way because then all hell breaks lose - he is a BULLY who preys on the older generation making them think that he is PROTECTING them, when all he does is sugar talk them and spends their money. And since is he is just a BULLY he will never answer questions he knows will get him in trouble. He misuses our tax money and claims he is going after the bad guys but neglects the drug dealers, robbers, murders, and all the other felons we have loose in our county. He’s just a good old boy!

Observer says:

Mary Izaguirre, you hit the nail on the head!

We will vote for Dan Saban for Sheriff and Tim Nelson for County Attorney

Concerned Citizen says:

Arpaio's current campaign ads are sick and depraved. 16 years is way too long for anyone to be in office. Arizona does not need a "king".

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