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Set to Boil: Board of Supervisors backs Sheriff Joe Arpaio; citizens vent rage, frustration at do-nothing Supes.

Sat Jun 21, 2008 at 12:23:29 PM

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Randy Parraz of the Maricopa Citizens for Safety and Accountability following his grilling of the Supes.

Maricopa County Board of Supervisors meetings resemble a cross between kabuki theater and Stalinist show trials. Brown-shirted MCSO deputies line the walls. Speakers are cut off at three minutes, or threatened with ejection. The five members of the Board of Supervisors sit up on a raised horseshoe, studying computer screens before them, pompous and god-like. Andrew Kunasek, the Board's Chairman, looks like he was pulled straight from central casting for the role of villain, name, pointy features and all. Kunasek bangs his gavel with all the moral authority of a totalitarian functionary. Even when he stated in response to a speaker's question that, "I believe in the [U.S.] Constitution," he did so with clenched teeth, and restrained vengeance in his eye.

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MCSA's lead organizer Raquel Teran fires up the crowd outside the BOS meeting.

The question that prompted Kunasek to reply in such a fashion came from Randy Parraz, of Maricopa Citizens for Safety and Accountability. Parraz was the last of several speakers repping the new group, which made its debut at the Board of Supes meeting on Thursday. And what a debut it was, packing the BOS chambers with hundreds. A hundred-plus more were turned away at the door, told they could not be accommodated, and had to watch the proceedings via TV from another room. Parraz was the last and most animated of MCSA's speakers. From the podium, he did his impersonation of Al Pacino in And Justice for All. For three minutes, he put the Supes on trial. I kept waiting for him to say, "And you're out of order. And you're out of order..."

Instead, Parraz was asking each Supe if he or she would take a step, little or small, to implement Title Six of the Civil Rights Act of 1964. Only Supervisor Mary Rose Wilcox seemed to answer in the affirmative. Kunasek replied as has been stated above.

Parraz also asked the Supes if, "To ensure greater accountability and transparency, would you support a recommendation that Sheriff Arpaio come before this body to account for his department's expenditures on a monthly basis, yes or no?"

"Mr. Stapley?" he asked.

"I don't think that's an appropriate way to do public business," harrumphed District 2 supervisor Don Stapley.

Parraz: "I think that's a, `No.' Mr. Kunasek?"

"We get reports on all the budgets," scowled Kunasek.

And away it went, until Parraz ran out of time, but refused to yield, despite the protestations of Kunasek, who ultimately rose from his seat, banging his gavel and pointing his finger. A sheriff's deputy approached Parraz menacingly. At that point, Parraz, turned from the podium, signaled to his comrades, who all rose as one and left the building.

"You're financing a criminal," yelled one pro-immigrant activist.

"I was born and raised here," cried another. "I have a right to speak."

"Si, se puede!" declared another.

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ACORN members, who had been denied entry to the BOS meeting, flood the plaza in front of the Supes' chambers.

Outside, the crowd was swelled by those who had been excluded earlier, a red sea of ACORN shirts, ACORN standing for Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, a lefty, grassroots organization. MCSA's lead organizer Raquel Teran whipped the crowd into a frenzy with a bullhorn-augmented address. Afterwards, Teran told me that the group had attempted to meet with the Supes individually, but that only Mary Rose Wilcox responded to their repeated inquiries. I can believe it. The Supes are notoriously unresponsive to citizens and the press. Especially those who might be critical of their actions.

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One protester's sign remembering Scott Norberg.

After all the protests, Sheriff Arpaio showed up, took the podium inside and made it clear who runs the joint.

"I am the elected sheriff," he lectured the Supes. "I make the decision on how to run my office. You know that you don't do that."

Actually, the Supes do have enormous power over Arpaio because they control the county's purse strings. They just elect not to use that power.

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Another sign remembering Clint Yarbrough.

That day the Supes ok'd the county's budget unanimously, including Arpaio's part of it. If the Supes continue to be unresponsive to the continuing outcry against Arpaio, there need to be more demonstrations such as the one on Thursday. Many say the time for massive civil disobedience has come. And considering the intransigence and arrogance of certain public officials, and the continued persecution of the undocumented in this state, I would tend to agree that such nonviolent protest as we saw in the South during the civil rights movement or all across America during the Vietnam War, is required.

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The Supes are being blamed for Arpaio's eff-ups. Rightly so.


58 Comments:

Frank says:

Take a hint, your anti Constitution, pro lawlessness demands are absurd. Sheriff Joe will be re elected, Gordon will be recalled and law and order will be restored in the City.

Hope you all have plan B. Take your socialist, left wing, anti American rhetoric and Mary Rose Wilcox, Gordon, Saban with you as you retreat south of the border with the people you claim you want to save.

Then you'll experience first hand Mexico's immigration policies, and they're hatred for the gringo.

Make sure to take Dennis Gilman with you, please.

Jim Williams says:

No matter what happens it is the people who believe in law enforcement that are at fault.All speakers are given three minutes and everyone knows that. Most when told their time is up leave the podium.One of the chants you left out was "viva la raza".I know you heard it because you were right behind me when it was being yelled.The open borders people were out of line, they stepped in their own crap and everyone watching channel 11 saw it and can decide on their own who was out of line. Now again the threats of massive civil disobedience coming from the supporters of illegal aliens are being made and justified by your rag.If it were one of the Sheriff's supporters calling for masive civil disobedience you would spin that as proof that we are racist and hate mongers.What a twisted bunch of B S.

Twosticks says:

Now we have the chicken*@%! portly penquin promoting and suggesting "the time for massive civil disobedience has come"! That seems like a threat to me!

Let the throngs of illegals "cut their own throats" by rioting and demonstrating. They will only be putting fuel on the fires that will return them to their third world hell holes. Then maybe they will try civil disobedience at home and be mowed down by their corrupt governments, unless they get an education and overthrow their corrupt politicians. Not likely!

Remember, if you start the war, we will finish it!

Gonzo says:

You idiot. Sheriff Joe is the only person doing anything about the invading force from the south and you run him down.
If you had any sense at all, you'd be embarrassed. You seem to be too stupid to be embarrassed. If this was a time of war, you'd be shot.
Sleep well tonight, traitor.

~Brandy~ says:

Hmmm.... you must have had quite a different vantage point than I had at that meeting. I never saw Mr. Kunasek "with clenched teeth, and restrained vengeance in his eye". He didn't even look that way at me when I was speaking and told Mary Rose Wilcox that, "As far as I'm concerned Mary Rose Wilcox is a traitor to the American people." He actually spoke up for her and told me that wasn't proper protocol. I told him that it was still my opinion.

I really thought that maybe this new group would have a good shot when I saw their turn out. They could have been very impressive... but then, as usual, they ended up acting like circus performers, then clowns and in the end animals. They gave a most perfect demonstration of the contempt and hostility that they have for our laws, our people and our ways. That is so common from them and why we don't welcome them or their cause. They're always making demands for special treatment for 'the brown people' and screaming like Banshees to make their point. They are the true racists in this battle.

They took an opportunity to make a great statement and show for their cause and SHOT THEMSELVES IN THE FOOT with their circus act. It ended up being very comical.

Concerned says:

Finally! Someone who was there and wrote about it and got it right.
Thanks for the excellent article!

Todd Stallion says:

Nothing lamer than open borders illegal alien assholes pretending to care about the rule of law. What a fucking bunch of phonies.

I especially love the premade signs by people who speak English handed out to bi-illiterate peons.

Yeah I am sure some dickwad from Tegucigalpa gives a shit about Scott Norberg and his cases expense on the tax payers, as if these idiots pay taxes.


By the way always remember that Stephen Lemons works for the ADL which is a domestic spy organization, the ADL uses "journalists" like Lemonshit and has done so for almost 100 years.

USA member says:

Sheriff Joe is the one that IS doing HIS job. If you print anything you "FEATHERED BASTARD"
Stephen Lemons why dont you print the truth. Sure you can write what the hell you want to freedom of the press, but, yet you target people, thats ALL YOU know how to do. INSTEAD of printing the TRUTH about ILLEGALS coming to the USA ILLEGALLY, and what they are doing is FUCKING up this COUNTRY. Thye steal IDS socail security numbers and rape and kill women and children. We are NOT a RACIEST HATE group, we dont want the ILLEGAL invasion we are getting in OUR COUNTRY. ILLEGALS are KILLING 25 AMERICAN CITIZENS a day. Why dont you print the ILLEGAL invasion, and the real stories??? No you wont do that because your to much of an ILLEGAL LOVER. Maybe YOU are married to a ILLEGAL.
Americans are sick and tired of the ILLEGALS getting all the FREEBIES from the hard working AMERICAN taxpayer, if you would open your eyes up and see that, but, you have to target others who ARE fighting for this COUNTRY so you go back and crawl under the rock you came from.

RvH says:

Everyone seems to forget that ILLEGALS who live here are breaking the law as soon as they establish residence here. That is the bottom line. So Sheriff Joe has every right to round them up and ship them out! If we went to Mexico, they would surely not let us stay.

Democrat equals Communist says:

And your point is?
Big deal 100 or more supporters of illegal alien criminal invaders are asked to follow simple rules when attending a public meeting and they act like the lawless criminals that they support.....and big fucking deal.
Go register to vote and get them out of office. What the fuck is the difference between your red shirts and the brown shirts?
The county has INSURANCE to pay those settlements so those signs are bullshit....the numbers are not real.
Joe will be elected again and he will enforce the laws as they are written and he is sworn to do.
I hope the "civil disobedience" steps onto my property......my dog would love it and so would I.
Get a fucking clue......Arizonans and the large majority of Americans are tired of the illegal alien criminal invaders sucking off our system.
In the words of a great Patriot......Send them back and Build the fence!!!

Frank says:

Take a hint, your anti Constitution, pro lawlessness demands are absurd. Sheriff Joe will be re elected, Gordon will be recalled and law and order will be restored in the City.

Hope you all have plan B. Take your socialist, left wing, anti American rhetoric and Mary Rose Wilcox, Gordon, Saban with you as you retreat south of the border with the people you claim you want to save.

Then you'll experience first hand Mexico's immigration policies, and they're hatred for the gringo.

Make sure to take Dennis Gilman with you, please. Homosexuals are widely appreciated in Mexico, no matter how homely they look. Dennis should be able to make some good $$$ on the streets of TJ.

RAIA Jim says:

Congratulations, your group of uncontrollable morons proved our point again, as you do every time you gather up your selection of Jerry's kids.

How many times can you people shoot yourself in the foot???

Stop it already, you're making this way too easy for us. Novembers election will be a landslide.

jimjim says:

Arpaio is not doing his job. Customs and Immigration, along with the Border patrol is charged with protecting our borders.

Joe is charged with some supplemental policing duties, but his primary job is to be the county's jailer housing the accused, and presumed innocent, who are awaiting trial. In his free time, he is to serve warrants and subpoenas.

He has elected to avoid those duties.

While illegal immigration is a serious issue, so too is arresting felons -- those we know are going to commit crimes.

Land of the free, home of the brave: not in Arizona.

david saint says:

LOL, OH GOODY, a whole bunch of uneducated arpaio minions...hey, his people said your the only ones supporting him, not me. FIrst, let me say that its the same ol BS from you morons. "hes just doing his job", "hes the only one doing anything", their illegals they have no rights"...guess what, NNN, WRONG!! Unless his job is to cover up murders in his jails, which i might remind you is a lil more than a minor infraction of the law which he picks and chooses to uphold...yes he is the only one doing anything, but theres a reason for it..ITS CRIMINAL AND VIOLATES THE LAWS OF THE CONSTITUTION..yes,, and take note here since it seems most of you need a refresher on it, it states that ANYONE within the borders of the US is covered by the Constitution, illegal or not. meaning the law applies to them the same as me or you. Further, they are still human beings, and failure to take note of this just means your no better than the Nazis. Remember when they said the Jews were illegals? yeah....
im all for deporting them all, however im not selling out my american values because im mad..this is the time to show how great our country is and be above all that..not show how inhumane, racist, and fascist we can get. so calling yourselves americans when you cant even grasp the most basic of american values, would make one want to call those degenerates. Lately its sounding more like a movie of AZCONFIDENTIAL, with MCSO detention officers threatening reporters, while gathering dirt on political rivals when the jails are supposedly so short staffed that satellite jails and visiting hours have been axed. so the safety of the outlining communities has to be comprimised so arpiblowhole has extra staff to gather dirt on rivals. that his job?? that even legal? well, it may not be but personally i want a refund on the 350k a year he pays his PR staff, cause they suck worse than a whore with a wired shut jaw. and lets not forget while most of us are hurting due to gas prices, etc, he has to have a million dollar a year office with a better view than the office supplied...that combined with all the law suites, the cover ups, honduras, his thinking that the Constitution is just their to wipe his butt with, just makes it a good time for him to bow out..cause at the pace hes going, and people cant get a clue, then AZ will soon be renamed Zimbabwe.
to Frank:
so we should act that way cause they do? yeah, thats what made america so great cause we do that everytime right?
get up from under joes desk and wipe that crap off your lip.its hot out this week.

Coz says:

It's time to HOLD the Board of Supidvisors responsible for the 10+ years of Corruption Arpaio and his Goons have stood for and gotten away with.

They could have stopped this long ago but have looked the other way long enough.

Maybe it's just what Maricopa County actually needs, A major civil unrest called a revolution in the streets.

Maybe then these idiot politicians will open their eyes to what their lack of management has caused when Maricopa County is burning to the ground.

Los Angeles hads their's with the Watts Riots, maybe it's time for Arizona to have one as well.

GRIME says:

USA Member, you say Americans are tired of 'illegals' getting freebies from American taxpayers, but are Americans tired of the cheap labor they get from 'illegals'? You think undocumented workes are hurting our economy? Check the food and gas prices buddy, the cheap goods and services brought by undocumented workers are the only thing keeping this shakey economy afloat, next time you see Juan on the freeway selling oranges you better thank him.

Coz says:

Why Not Stapley ?, after all, it is OUR Public Money that the Board likes flushing down the toilet....

Have something to hide do you, Stapley ?


>>Parraz also asked the Supes if, "To ensure greater accountability and transparency, would you support a recommendation that Sheriff Arpaio come before this body to account for his department's expenditures on a monthly basis, yes or no?"

"Mr. Stapley?" he asked.

"I don't think that's an appropriate way to do public business," harrumphed District 2 supervisor Don Stapley.

Anonymous says:

Crash and burn losers, crash and burn.

I was appalled that a County public meeting was started without the pledge to the United States.

This BS show was set up by Mary Rose Wilcox, but a mole in her camp got the word out before it was too late. She even rigged it were these violent protester all got to speak together (Yes Mary we saw you going through the slips). They were asked several times to not applaud after each of their speakers but alas, people who break the laws, will break the rules every time.

This group became completely arrogant, verbally abusive and would not stop, sit down or shut up (yelling VIVA LA RAZA & YES WE CAN)! The security was brought in to force them from the chambers! They always get violent when they don't get their way!

Several spoke in support of the MCSO and of course they don't report that the supervisors thanked MCSO, because it is Sheriff Joes cuts that helps keep Maricopa County within budget! They also clarified that the last 7 lawsuits, that were allowed to go to trial, Maricopa County won.

That is the point, we pay (taxpayers) the same premium to the Insurance company. THEY choose to settle cases without going to trial because they are afraid of the settlement if they lose! The insurance pay these settlements, not the taxpayers!! (EVER HAD YOUR CAR INSURANCE SETTLE ON AN ACCIDENT THAT WASN'T YOUR FAULT?)

If anyone is inciting riots it is those who seem to condone the breaking of our laws,those who get on Spanish radio and demand a call to arms and blood shed (an illegal was arrested the next day in Mesa shooting an AK-47), those who refuse to enforce our laws, those who aid and abet these criminals! Take a bow Napalitano, Gordon, Harris, Guadalupe Mayor, Gascon , Saban & Mary Rose and of course the reporters who refuse to print the facts! Wonder if these were the ones in the photo taken at her Mexican place .... Hey what do you know....all open border democrats... go figure.

One of the major reasons they come illegally is because of the deadly DISEASES they are infected with! Check with CDC and see how DRUG RESISTANT TUBERCULOSIS, LEPROSY, AIDS, MEASLES, HEPATITIS, STD'S, etc.... are BECOMING EPIDEMIC IN THE USA! Where is the protection of the American Citizens! This is the exact reason the health check is required, so not enforcing the rule of law is endangering all of us. Think about it the next time someone coughs around your child as they wait on your table or sell you that corn dog, burritos or corn tortillas from not inspected, unlicensed food carts! What do you know about that HOLD up Mary! Do you even realize that Maricopa County Health no longer requires a chest X-Ray, blood test or a physical to get a Food Handlers Card!!!!

Do me a favor and go sit and watch the illegal's picking produce in the fields, keep a close eye on the use of the port-a-pots, (if there is even any there at all) then you will see why all these recalls are happening. Spinach, the largest meat recall in U.S. history ( was traced to illegal's in slaughter houses) now tomatoes! Our food supply is being compromised!
Mary Rose, are still hiring illegal's at your Mexican Food? Have you E-verified any or ALL your employees ? Will the unsuspecting customers pay with their lives when that illegal, with TB coughs while they take an order?

Where is the human compassion from them when you knowingly pass fatal infections to others!
Contrary to what President Bush claims, family values do stop at the borders for many illegal aliens. In addition to suppressing wages, bankrupting our hospitals, and over-crowding our jails and public schools, illegal aliens are preying upon our children !! Will yours be next?

In Operation Predator sweeps across the Country conducted between 2003-2007, Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents nabbed over 10,700 foreign national child molesters.

Many of these predators had been previously convicted of other crimes, and many had already been deported once.
The number of predators apprehended in the sweeps actually only represent the tip of the iceberg.

In fact, a study conducted by the Violent Crimes Institute reports that between 1999 and 2006, there were nearly 1,000,000 sex crimes (victims range from 18 MONTHS to 16 years old) committed in the United States by illegal aliens. (Our own Chandler rapist for one!!!) WERE THE HELL IS COMPASSION FOR THESE BABIES!

Using U.S. Department of Justice, Immigration, as well as state and local law enforcement data, Deborah Schurman-Kauflin of the Violent Crimes Institute determined that there are no less than 240,000 illegal alien sex offenders currently inside the U.S.
It is important that law enforcement not be just for illegal aliens who have committed violent felonies. All illegal aliens must fear being arrested if we are to get enough voluntary departure to open up millions of jobs to non-employed American workers.

FYI Only 1500 of all those warrants belong to MCSO, the rest belong to all the other cities in Maricopa County! Many of those warrants have been filled because of these crime sweeps! You don't get arrested for a cracked tail light, you get a work order.
I witnessed several of these sweeps and saw all kinds of colors being arrested!

MIGHT BE WHY CITIZENS FROM ALL OVER ARIZONA & THE USA DONATED $20,000 TO SHERIFF JOE SPECIFICALLY FOR ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT ONLY....HE HAD A $5,000 CHECK THAT HAD JUST CAME IN FROM A CITIZEN, sounds like he has the support of the people who want criminals arrested and law enforced! SHERIFF JOE NEVER ASKED FOR DONATIONS, SEVERAL GROUPS WHO SUPPORT THE RULE OF LAW DID THIS!

It was good to see Phoenix PLEA also there. Your boots on the ground, in the line of fire are deeply appreciated more than you know!

Needless to say the Majority of the Maricopa County Supervisors do their jobs very well, know the law and will not bend to threats! Thank you for approving MCSO Funding. Your voters will remember.

BTW, ANYONE WHO CONSIDERS THE PHOENIX NEW TIMES A LEGITIMATE NEWS SOURCE REALLY SHOULD THINK AGAIN, WHY DO YOU THINK THEY HAVE TO GIVE IT AWAY, AND THE ADVERTISERS ARE CALL GIRLS, PORN STORY LINES AND MASSAGE PARLORS!!!!

Gee what a concept...............................See you at the polls! WTG Sheriff Joe!

Democrat equals Communist says:

GRIME says:
USA Member, you say Americans are tired of 'illegals' getting freebies from American taxpayers, but are Americans tired of the cheap labor they get from 'illegals'? You think undocumented workes are hurting our economy? Check the food and gas prices buddy, the cheap goods and services brought by undocumented workers are the only thing keeping this shakey economy afloat, next time you see Juan on the freeway selling oranges you better thank him.

Posted at: June 22, 2008 1:16 AM

THANK HIM FOR THE SALMONELLA OR THANK HIM FOR STEALING AN AMERICAN FARMERS JOB? OR PERHAPS WE SHOULD THANK HIM FOR RAPING UR DAUGHTERS....OR THANK HIM FOR HIS 8 FUCKING KIDS BEING ON OUR WELFARE SYSTEM CLOGGING UP OUR SCHOOLS.....OR SHOULD WE THANK HIM FOR SNEAKING INTO OUR COUNTRY LIKE A COMMON TRESPASSER? PERHAPS WE SHOULD THANK HIM BECAUSE HIS COUSIN SHOT ANOTHER COP.....OR MAYBE WE SHOULD THANK HIM BECAUSE HIS MAMASITA IS SPREADING TB OR LEPROSY.....
WE ARE SICK AND FUCKING TIRED OF TAKING CARE OF THEM........THEY SHOULD THANK US FOR HAVING A POLITICAL SYSTEM THAT LETS THEM PROTEST IN THE STREETS WITH BEING ROUNDED UP AND SENT THE FUCK HOME........

Natavists Equals Neanderthals says:

Wow!!!
A bunch of sumatran organtun apes have already posted sickening comments supporting that geriatric asswipe--Joe Arpaio.
When will these Neaderthals of the Neo-KKKoon take their numbskulls out of their asses and realize that Joe Arpaio is up to no good??? Many Americans including myself are coming out to voice our anger and rage at the Sheriff`s lousy performance as a law enforcement. Many Freedom Fighters like myself have already beginning to see that Joe Arpaio can no longer do his job professionally. For he has turned MSCO into a laughing stock. Just look at his latest ratings which is now currently declining down to the 30th percentile!! Look at how he manages his jails, how he talks to the press. The old man can't even count money, let alone read polls or numbers for that matter.

We need to replace Joe Arpaio and transform the MSCO back into its once respected agency as a law enforcement. Only Saban have what it takes to bring integrity back to MSCO!!

ITS TIME TO RISE AGAINST JOE ARPAIO!!!

The EVT reported yesterday that "a coalition of more than 20 Christian churches across the state has gathered to voice concerns about Sheriff Joe Arpaio."
This tells us that more and more True Americans are banding together to express opposition against the Joe Arpaio!!
And fortunately the numbers of opposition continues to garner more support.

Hence,the retrograded herd of Natavists(Neanderthals) who support this KKKorrupt of a Sheriff, are indeed, nothing more than a pack of hatemongers and retards like Craig Tillman. In fact, Craig Tillman is a perfect example of the intellectual infants many of them are born with. Which is why I call them Neanderthals because they're uncivilized at best. Take a good look at Dick Galeener who pees in his pants and in public while flapping his 3in wiener around in front of families. That's pure savagery!!! Perversed!! Scumbag!!! These hatemongers need to be in jail!! Take a good look at the name Laine LAWLESS!! "Lawless"!?! That tells me she's a effin criminal!! Burning American flags and trying to commit arson!! Send that bitch off to jail!!

TO JAIL WITH ARPAIO-WE NEED SABAN-4-SHERIFF!!!

Dennis Gilman says:

Looks like The Racists are working over-time on the blogs this weekend. Wow! You all sound really threatened.

Jim Williams - you probably did hear the chant "Viva La Raza". You Nativists hear a lot of voices in your heads.
I'm sure Timothy McVie heard a few just like you folks. But I was there and I didn't hear it.

While The Racist Scum continues to promote their Nativist agenda under the cover of "RULE OF MISDEMEANOR LAW", Sheriff Arpaio is
ignoring Felony Warrants, and basically the majority of all serious crime (Facts are the majority of crime is not committed by immigrants)
The rest of Maricopa County is waking up. That includes Republicans and people of all colors and backgrounds.
The county Board Of Supervisors is corrupt. The Sheriff thinks he doesn't answer to anyone. When any elected official thinks he is above
the law- it is time for him to go.

Frank- learn to debate. Making weird sexual references about someone else only shows us you have some closet homosexual issues. It is what adolescent boys do when they are afraid they might be gay. It's not what adults that are confident in themselves do. Seriously, if you want people to believe you aren't a closet queer, then stop with your obsession. It's not bothering me. But it's causing others to wonder about you.

As for Todd Stallon- Who the hell are you to decide what someone is thinking when they are holding a sign? Thats got to sum up about everything you have ever posted. Where you there? How can you tell by their hands from the pictures who they are or what they are thinking? Wow!

As long as I'm insuring freindships-RAIAjim- You Hells- Angels- wanna-be's are a joke (I mean no disrespect to The Real Angels)
You are old-GROW UP!. You are all taking the mid-life crisis a bit far with the whole Ruff-Boy biker act. You aren't all that . You helped us
Win at Pruitts Furniture when Crazy Old Racist Roger Sensing asked you clowns to come on down. You hurt his business and that of the neighborhoods so bad that the Liguer store across the street put up signs Demanding your group stay away!. Roger Sensing's son finally took over and got rid of your crew and the Sheriff's Deputies. WE WON! Why? Because no real American wants to be near a bunch of sleazy racist bikers making a mockery of the American Flag- yelling "Anchor Baby" at every brown child and mother they see. You Goof balls helped us win. Thanks.

The bottom line is we were able to organize 450 to 500 people in less then 3 weeks. That was African Americans, Anglo and latino's all working together. And we all have jobs we missed. Most of you Nativists are on some form of Government assistance. And you couldn't pull 100 people together in front of the State Capital when the weather was nice on May 1st.

So if we were really" shooting ourselves in the foot" (keep using that one by the way) then why are you all so worked up about it?


Dennis Gilman says:

The Valley's Most Wanted Sex Offenders
All are White! (and free to roam about)

Daniel Robinson, 27
5 feet 9 inches tall, 145 pounds, green eyes
Convicted in the gang rape of a 14-year-old girl
Wanted for failing to register his address and for drug and weapons charges
Likely frequents the area of 40th Street and Baseline Road


Daniel Montoya, 22
5 feet 8 inches tall, 210 pounds
Suspected of sexually assaulting a 14-year-old girl he met on a chat line
Has family in Phoenix who may be hiding him

Charles Klaver, 53
ARRESTED ON MAY 30
Convictions: Attempted criminal fondling/involuntary sexual battery/failing to register as a sex offender
Escape: In September 2007, Klaver cut off an electronic monitoring device and disappeared

Richard Kelly, 52
5 feet 11 inches tall, 170 pounds
Convicted of sexual assault. Also has raped women in Washington and New York
Escaped from the Arizona State Hospital in February 2005 when authorities were trying to have him civilly committed as a sexually violent predator
Last seen: On national news, boarding up houses in New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina hit in August 2005.

Serge Arseneault, 55
5 feet 6 inches tall, 180 pounds
Convicted of indecent exposure. Suspected of approaching a 10-year-old girl in Fountain Hills and trying to get her into his car
Last seen: Fountain Hills
Usually is on foot and is an avid smoker. May be wearing sunglasses and a baseball hat to hide his face.
FOUNTAIN HILLS IS WHERE MCSO IS THE ONLY POLICE FORCE.

I think we need a real Sheriff, not a Reality TV Show Star.

Arpaio is a dangerous,expensive joke. The County Board of Supervisors answer to the people, not the corupt Sheriff
or his racist followers.

Concerned says:

“What right does a mayor or a police chief, or anyone like that, have to tell me what my priorities are?” Arpaio said in a recent interview. “I’m the elected sheriff. I tell them what their priorities are.”

Does anyone else find that statement a bit frightening?
We pay his salary- he works for us.

Natavist Equals Neanderthals says:

And Joe`s thuggery tactics must come to a bloody end. If the BOS can't do a thing about it, then a "revolution" must be the solution , if its the only way to show these tards that we as Americans are fed up w/ Sheriff Arpay-asshole. Even if the BOS has no control over Arpaio, then one has to wonder why that board is created in the first place, if they lacked power and common sense???

Heretofore,
I did managed to buy one of his books(unautographed) but only for the purpose of burning it in the fireplace.. Unlike Laine LAWLESS who burns flags for a living in public places, only to risk innocent lives and putting structures at risk for arson in fire hazard environment like AZ. We must fight back for Freedom.

number88 says:

What a bunch of fucking loosers, how much did Arpaio pay you to show up on this blog! what a fucking joke, get off of this fucking blog and go back to your fucking KKKTAR blogs!

all of the sudden the Arpaio's ass lickers show up at once! like nobody is going to notice!


and stop fucking making threats!


"Remember, if you start the war, we will finish it!"

"If this was a time of war, you'd be shot.
Sleep well tonight, traitor."

"Crash and burn losers, crash and burn."


Anonymous says:

WOW, their ship is sinking and the Captain (Fat Cocksucker Bird) and Gilligan are in full panic mode.

So long losers... retreat and don't forget to take all your lawless foe with you.

Emil Pulsifer says:

Myth: "Sheriff Joe is the only person doing anything about the invading force from the south..."

Fact: There are an estimated 500,000 illegal immigrant workers in the state of Arizona. Announcing a "sweep" and then pulling over every hispanic with a cracked taillight (or in some cases inventing strictly fictitious defects), in order to net a couple dozen illegals, or pulling in a few day-laborers, does NOTHING to combat illegal immigration. The Tucson Sector of the U.S. Border Patrol apprehends *hundreds of thousands* of illegal immigrants each year.

Arpaio knows this, even if the morons he panders to with these self-promoting propaganda exercises do not. Arpaio also knows which businesses employ large numbers of illegals, yet we have yet to see any significant enforcement action against the employers. That's because Arpaio and Thomas are politicians who know who butters their bread.

These sweeps are a ridiculous sideshow and a gross waste of both law enforcement resources and taxpayer funds, and their sole purpose is the diversion of public funds into a cynical form of advance advertisement for the re-elect Joe Arpaio for Sheriff campaign. The dozens of deputies and hundreds of posse members could be put to better use, as could the administrative support personnel.

Instead of going after otherwise law-abiding individuals looking for work, responsible law-enforcement agencies (like the Phoenix Police and others) have concentrated their resources on violent criminal gangs, including but not limited to the professional human smugglers who run extortion rackets and drop-houses where individuals are unlawfully and forcibly held. (In the process, a lot of illegals get deported also.) They've been doing their jobs quietly and professionally, putting scarce public resources to use in tackling the most serious problems first.

It may surprise some of you yahoos to learn that persecuting Juan Valdez looking for part-time construction work is not the best way to employ limited law-enforcement assets to protect the public from serious crimes (e.g. crimes of violence and felonious property crimes). Sure, he is here illegally, and that's a crime. So is jaywalking. There are far more serious crimes being committed in Arizona every day and somebody needs to investigate (and when possible prevent) these crimes, while Uncle Joe is busy playing political games.

The fact is that these games are themselves illegal (involving as they do clear acts of racial profiling), and scaring the bejabbers out of LEGALLY RESIDENT hispanics who -- surprise, surprise -- don't like being stopped on flimsy pretexts by insolent deputies and private volunteers demanding their papers. Why should they have to prove anything to the government? All they are doing is driving down the street. If MCSO has reasonable cause for stopping them, that's different: but they don't and that's why Uncle Joe hides behind a song and dance.

It's also why we need to get a new Sheriff. This man has become far too big for his britches and thinks nothing of human rights abuse, violations of constitutional protections, or declaring war against the city government, major metropolitan law-enforcement agencies like the Phoenix and Mesa police departments, or anyone else who fails to fall in line with his agenda. He's dividing the city and making a laughingstock of Arizona, and personally I don't see any dividend from it except what Uncle Joe gets in press attention. Scarce tax dollars earmarked for law enforcement should be spent wisely and not used like a supplementary campaign-finance fund.

Myth: "Sheriff Joe is the one that IS doing HIS job."

Fact: The Sheriff's job is to run the jails and serve court papers (and NOT just those involving MCSO cases). The position is not supposed to be a celebrity platform. The Sheriff is supposed to be a law-enforcement professional, not a media-hound who panders to the ignorant, gullible, racially obsessed but disproportionally vocal minority who rush to pack the comments section every time somebody writes a story or a blog item.

The actual significance of all this hot-air is pretty low. I hope public officials take a sophisticated view and are not mislead by superficial appearances. Let's also not forget that Uncle Joe spends vast funds to promote himself, and that likely includes professional public relations agencies whose full-time staff specialize in "guerilla lobbying" designed to create the false appearance of public support.

Myth: The opponents of Sheriff Arpaio are all "open borders illegal alien assholes pretending to care about the rule of law".

Fact: It takes all kinds, but a lot of us are just sick and tired of having Maricopa County represented by a sheriff who is cruel, irresponsible, a spendthrift with taxpayer funds, and a media-hound who panders to racists. Someone who is so incompetent by standards of professional law-enforcement that he allows his department to go without basic office supplies and leaves critical positions unstaffed, while funding trips to and from Honduras. Someone who orchestrates comical "crime sweeps" which are announced to the public media ahead of time. Someone who not only confuses "arrested" with "guilty" but who metes out savage, fatal beatings to sassy prisoners and then engages in a criminal conspiracy to cover it up. Someone who runs his jails like a third-world dictator who refuses to be accountable to any public oversight, hiding behind the mantra of being "an elected official". Well, Nixon was an elected official too.

As for hispanics who oppose Arpaio, why do you assume that they are all, or even mostly, illegal, or that their opposition hinges on the question of immigration enforcement per se?

The state is full of police agencies that enforce immigration-related laws, but generally it's only Arpaio who upsets people to the extent that they feel the need to protest and vigorously express their opinions directly to those with oversight powers or control of the purse-strings. No doubt I'd feel personally threatened also if I were a person of color who was in danger of being targeted for special police attention stictly or primarily on that basis.

Mr. Lemons is right when he says that the County Board of Supervisors could use their budget powers to send a message, or to insist on proper public accountability (including full and regular audits). The fact that they refuse to only demonstrates that they are part of the problem. Corruption only flourishes if it is protected from the top by those abdicating their public responsibilities.

Speaking of which, does anyone have the figures (totals) for Arpaio's general budget and for his separate detention fund? The story I saw in the Arizona Republic didn't give the fiscal 2009 budget figures approved for Arpaio by the Board of Supervisors. Performing some basic math on what it did say (about budget cuts), it looks like Arpaio's general budget is more than $77,000,000 ($77 million) and that his detention fund budget is about $160,000,000 ($160 million). That's more than $237,000,000 ($237 million).

That's one hell of a slush-fund. I call it that because in the 15 years Arpaio has been Sheriff it hasn't seen a single comprehensive audit. We do know that his office routinely spends millions more for overtime in its first fiscal quarter than has been alloted for the entire year. I'd say that the County Board of Supervisors is reckless and irresponsible for allowing this to go on for so long.

I'd bet dollars to doughnuts that any agency with a budget this large which has been permitted to get away with so much for so long, has developed a real contempt for responsible accounting practices. I'll bet there's a gold mine of sleaze in Arpaio's current and past budgets, and it needs to be exposed -- preferably well in advance of the November election. Achilles heel? More like a baboon's hiney. It's a target nobody could miss, if it weren't for the County Board of Governors holding a veil in front of it in the name of modesty.

As for the protesters, nobody should be blamed for shaking things up (within reason) in order to put these issues in the public eye. That includes peaceful civil disobedience (yes, preferably massive -- what's the point of three people marching with picket signs?). The November elections are a long ways off and in the meantime public officials and the media should be informed, at every reasonable opportunity, that people are fed up.

By the way, protest groups should be aware of the strong possibility of infiltration by agents provocateurs. These are individuals who not only spy on and report your meetings, and pump activists and their leaders for information (that's a given in Maricopa County under Uncle Joe, folks), but
who also agitate to commit violent acts or unsympathetic disorderly acts which serve merely to brand the organization as criminal in the eyes of the public, the law-enforcement community, and the mainstream political community. Sometimes they commit such acts themselves, "spontaneously", during demonstrations. This gives the authorities an excuse to move in and be rough, and that enflames tempers further, and before you know it there's a riot of sorts.

Don't be paranoid, but develop definite policies and limitations and make sure your activists are committed to them. Don't make any public statements which you wouldn't want reported. And the one individual you should be automatically suspicious of and thoroughly vet, is anyone who volunteers for (or jockeys to obtain) a position involving any sort of security oversight for the group.
Also, anyone who donates computers or communications equipment, since these may be compromised.

Often, individuals seeking to gain influence will donate funds and attempt to make their financing or other material support indispensible, then attempt to use this reliance to insinuate themselves into positions of influence, oversight, or other importance. Keep the funding and organizational sides separate and under the firm control of top leaders.

Jill says:

Time for Joe to Go. We can't afford him. Time to recall the Board of Sup's as well.

Oh, and btw, Joe, destroy all the papers you can while you can, else you'll wind up being a resident in your own tent city.

Oh, wait, destroying evidence is against the law too. But, that doesn't matter to you, Joe, now, does it?

Frank says:

LOL !!!!! You fucking liberal losers are in so far over your heads you're drowning is misery.

Emil Pulsifer has way too much time on his/her hands. The ramblings of a loon. The French haven't learned the fine skill of proper hygiene in 100's of years, don't have the thought process or mentality to win an argument, and God knows the French couldn't win a war against Rhode Island, let alone a well educated troop of Boy Scouts.

So to be under the delusion that anyone actually reads your lame ramblings Emil Pulsifer is proof that your personal mental stability is failing.

You people thinking you are making a (positive) difference is as laughable as when tweekers try and act inconspicuous.

number88, are you really that ignorant to believe for 1 moment Sheriff Joe needs to pay anyone to support his cause??? Is that the best you are capable of???

In a Democratic society We The People will be heard, and the law will continue to be enforced and eventually the lawlessness will be curtailed, and the traitorous Politicians who for years have lined their pockets with the kickbacks from the Chamber of Commerce, Mexican drug running and human (torture) smuggling enterprises will be exposed (yes you Philberto) ,and the beautiful City of Phoenix will be returned to the American Citizens.

You folks don't even have the common sense to realize how devastating the animalistic the actions your "people" continue to erode the minuet minority of supporters you have/had. This past week actions only proved 1 thing, the only person that is the least bit sympathetic to your insanity is Mary Rose Wilcox. She will soon be unemployed Politically also. Then she can join her hubby running that dive diner she owns.

I'm reaching the point where I'm starting to feel bad for you all, kind of like watching a Little League game and the one team of kids are getting smeared, and the tears are welling up in the little guys eyes.......

D.J. Racist Ryke says:

Hey Anonymous Asshole!!!
If anyone is in a "panic mode" its Sheriff Joe Arcorrupto. Everybody knows that the 76 year old Sheriff will lose re-election come this November. His desperation antics are so obvious in the local news media. The old motherfucker is not doing his job by going after the criminals which Dennis-G. Menace has pointed out(the Pedo-Saxons). Instead Joe chooses to investigate well liked and respected mayor Phil Gordon and the crime fighters of the Phoenix Polce Dept. What a fuckin waste of time and tax payer money.

Please drop dead "Anonymous". You are a pest of society by supporting corruption, death of Americans, Racism, Hatred towards Americans of Color and journos, and promoting domestic terrorsim by supporting domestic Hate-Groups such as the United for a Soveriegn America, Vinlanders, NSM et al.
Drop dead "Anonymous". Its what's best for America and Americans.

Emil Pulsifer has said it all. Great post.
Now where's Slavyanski???

Anonymous says:

Arpaio is nothing more than a Dick-tater...
Maybe we'll get lucky and the prick will have a heart attack and die.

Coz says:

Sure beats the shit out of your Nazi Racist Trailer Park Bullshit.

>>BTW, ANYONE WHO CONSIDERS THE PHOENIX NEW TIMES A LEGITIMATE NEWS SOURCE REALLY SHOULD THINK AGAIN, WHY DO YOU THINK THEY HAVE TO GIVE IT AWAY, AND THE ADVERTISERS ARE CALL GIRLS, PORN STORY LINES AND MASSAGE PARLORS!!!!

Emil Pulsifer says:

Frank, you remind me of similar windbags in the U.S. House of Representatives, who in a fit of infantile chauvinism actually ordered the congressional cafeteria to rename "french fries" to "patriot fries".

Unfortunately for you, I am not French. But it's funny to see you dangle these little provocations as bait, after seeing my previous comments in the AFP thread and elsewhere recently.

"I am not here, I'm making my escape /
The me you hear is magnetized on tape"

(Michael Franks, When Sly Calls)


Frank says:

It's okay D.J. Racist to be scared, maybe you need a hug. Dennis would be more than happy to get his hands on you.

Drop dead???? Is that your best impression of being a man you can come up with????? LOL !!!!

This is the best topic so far on this worthless blog. All 7 of you pieces of shit are beginning to sense the doom we have tried to make you see for months now.

Dennis Gilman says:

Emil Pulsifer,
Good post. Long but good.

Coz says:

>>Frank says:

Does anyone really care what this dumb shit has to say anyway ?

Observer says:

Thanks for shedding light on the MC Board of Supervisors and the free rein they give Arpaio. Now what about the budget for the County Attorney's office and his "marketing / PR budget??

You are doing a public service to unearth this rat's nest.

Concerned Citizen says:

Sounds like a taxpayer rebellion --- long overdue! Arizona is beginning to wake up and take notice. Great article, Mr. Lemmons!

jimjim says:

Emil Pulsifer

Nice post. Nothing wrong with taking the time to get the story straight.

I'd hope our nativist readers would posses the ability to focus for 30-seconds, long enough to read your post in its entirety.

One thing for sure, the active nativist sure do get restless when you confront them with fact and cogent argument.

D.J. Racist Ryke says:

Frank aka Anonymous,
There isn't "7" of us who are against Sheriff Joe Arpaio, you fuck-tard. But rather hundreds of thousands of Americans(Arizonians) who opposes Arpaio.
This is exactly what I'm talking about when it comes down to Joe Arpaio and his little band of inbreeded subhumans is the very fact that they cannot seem to count numbers, let alone--do their own math, possess money accountability nor do they can't seem to read the polls(40th percentile not 80% for the Sheriff).
All "7" of us? You gotta be fucking kidding me. Its no wonder these fuck tards have no jobs is because they all flunked math or worse--dropped out of High School or even "homeschooled". Which is probably why those activists are calling you folks "uneducated". Many of you retrograded Natavists have all kinds of mental disparities. The most common affecting you is called--Learning Disability. Which also may explains your ignorance and lack of insights on the Sheriff. Your narrowed one sided thoughts only focuses on "race" and Hispanic Americans. This is exactly why your own little crowd of tards is in fact--a minority few.

number88 says:

Emil Pulsifer,

your comments should be printed on next Thursday's edition.

Frank says:

D.J. Rapist,

Your "1000's or 100,000's" are a delusion. Joe will win once again by a landslide. And your "people" will actually be a big reason for it. Every time the news reports on the ridiculous protest held against Sheriff Joe and the storming of the City Counsel Chambers making demands, you only reinforce our position. The proof of that will be seen soon, as the numbers of Phoenix residents signing all 3 petitions we have circulating currently in the past month have far exceeded our expectations.

You have 1 traitorous City Counsel member one your side Politically.

Gordon is running scared since he know his days are numbered.

You'll continue talking shit until the election, then your disappear in shame once defeated in November.

Matthew Owens says:

"The sheriff is an officer of high respectability in our judical system, and was known to the most early ages of the common law." (James Wilson, Lectures on Law, vol. 2, chapter 7

I would ask all parties involved in this debate to step away from emotion and how one feels about their position and ask themselves. If you acted as the sheriff currently is conducting himself, how do you think you would be recieved?

Thats all I have to say. Please think about it on your own.

RAIAJim says:

One of the ‘founders’ of the Reconquista movement said;
“We call things racism just to get attention. We reduce complicated problems to
racism, not because it is racism, but because it works.” ~ Alfredo Gutierrez,
political consultant, as quoted by Richard de Uriarte, The Phoenix Gazette,
March 14, 1992 (quoted in The ProEnglish Advocate, 1st quarter, 2002).

Emil Pulsifer says:

"Anonymous", why post a youtube.com video titled "illegal kills student"? Shall I start posting news and video links titled "native-born Arizonan kills old woman" or "native-born Arizonan rapes pregnant woman" whenever that happens, as if to prove the moral turpitude of native Arizonans? Because it would be exactly as silly as what you're doing.

Frank Miller, I've seen a few of your dweebs sitting in front of Phoenix city libraries trying to get signatures for recall-Gordon petitions. (BTW, how much are you paying the hired-help, and where is the money for this project coming from?)

I almost hope you aren't just blowing hot-air when you say you've got enough signatures to force a recall election, because Gordon will win handily and the sole, lasting result of your actions will be to further alienate yourselves from mainstream opinion and to demonstrate to the political establishment that by getting a new Sheriff they will also eliminate the hangers-on (or should I say cling-ons?) who take inspiration from him.

Proud Republican says:

Why aren't Hollywood celebrities holding telethons asking for help in restoring Iowa and helping the folks affected by the floods?

Why aren't the media asking tough questions about why the federal government hasn't solved the problem? Or asking where are the FEMA trucks (and trailers)?

Why isn't the Federal Government relocating Iowa people to free hotels in Chicago ?

Why isn't it giving them $200 vouchers that they can spend on alcohol and vice?

When will Spike Lee say that the Federal Government blew up the levees that failed in Des Moines ?

Where are Sean Penn and the Dixie Chicks?

Where are all the looters stealing high-end tennis shoes and big screen television sets?

Where is the hysterical 24/7 media coverage complete with reports of cannibalism?

Where are the people declaring that George Bush hates white, rural people?

How come in 2 weeks, you will never hear about the Iowa flooding ever again? ... well at least not until the folks with flood insurance rebuild in the flood plain and the next flood comes along and washes away everything again.

Bless this country in which we live. There is not another one like it.

Dennis Gilman says:

RIAjim- I swear you get lamer everytime you post. Is that all you have? A misqoute from Alfredo Guetarez, retired congressman and partime activist? A qoute from 1992? How sad for your side if thats the best you can do. On second thought- you should work that ITS BIG!

FRANKS MYSPACE PAGE says:

Name: Frank

age:52

Residence: Still live with Mother.

Occupation: Part time Security Guard.

Nationality: Not sure, Mom was at a BUKAKE PARTY.

Relationship: Still A Virgin.

Sexual Preference: Pretend to like girls but have never been with one. Secretly fantasize about being brutally raped by Sheriff's Deputies.

Hobbies: Internet cruising for young boys and acting like a Nativist Badass on NewTimes Web Site.

Heroes: Smooth, Steele, RIAjim (bikers make me hot)

Goals: To be a Posse Member and help stop the Illegal Invasion!

Dislikes: Liberals, People that are smarter then me.Mexicans, Day Laborers (because they make more money then I do as a Security Guard). Dennis (Because I think the other Nativists will like me if I hate him) Emil Pulsifer ( He is french- I KNOW HE IS!) The Bird (It's the thing to do if you want acceptance in the Nativist community) Sal Reza ( I dont know a thing about him but I'm sure he's a fag)


Proud Liberal says:

Proud Republican,

Besides being completely off-topic, you are wrong. Did Iowa have a levy break? Will Iowa farmers not reap major Republican Sponsored subsidies for crop loss? What is the population of Iowa compared to that of Mississippi or New Orleans? Why don't you compare how The Bush Administration responds to Hurricanes in Florida to how they responded to them in New Orleans? Whenever Florida has a Hurricane-Fema and all the Republicans wet themselves rushing tons of aid to Florida. In fact, they literally buy Republican Votes that way. When it happened in poor, heavily African American New Orleans and Mississippi-they were absent. Now go away and do your copy/paste somewhere else.

jimjim says:

Proud Republican - you are an idiot and, I suspect, a racist. You just don't have the courage to come out and say it, even when masked behind a pseudonym.

Not only is your post not on point for this thread within this blog, but it contains so many urban myths (read: lies of unknown origin) that it defies the need for rebuttal.

So, how 'bout you grow a pair and just be as proud and open a racist as are your nativist comrades?

Anonymous says:

Too funny, that sums up Frank pretty well.

>>FRANKS MYSPACE PAGE says:

Coz says:

Just heard that Bozo Joe fired Shaq from MCSO for being in Florida and using foul language while at a Rap Concert. Bozo Joe says Shaq shouldn't be allowed to play anymore basketball professionally either for this....Bozo Joe stripped him of his MCSO Posse badge and his MCSO Secret Celebrity Police Badge.
Oh my, this has got to be the funniest thing I've ever heard. Has Arpaio finally completely lost his mind or what....
This should be funnier than H*ll once the true story comes out and not Bozo Joe's version..

Frank says:

When all you have left is to play the race card you've already lost the argument.

My Space page ???? Never been on my space, but I've learned watching 20/20 you child molesters spend a lot of time on there fishing for victims.

I used the achieved quote as proof of the ill willed efforts that start all the way at the top (La Raza, Reconquista) down to the peon internet terrorists like Dennis Gilman, JimJim (dyslexic?), number88, D.J. Rapist and the rest of you losers.

One of the ‘founders’ of the Reconquista movement said;
“We call things racism just to get attention. We reduce complicated problems to
racism, not because it is racism, but because it works.” ~ Alfredo Gutierrez,
political consultant, as quoted by Richard de Uriarte, The Phoenix Gazette,
March 14, 1992 (quoted in The ProEnglish Advocate, 1st quarter, 2002).

One of the ‘founders’ of the Reconquista movement said;
“We call things racism just to get attention. We reduce complicated problems to
racism, not because it is racism, but because it works.” ~ Alfredo Gutierrez,
political consultant, as quoted by Richard de Uriarte, The Phoenix Gazette,
March 14, 1992 (quoted in The ProEnglish Advocate, 1st quarter, 2002).

Anonymous says:

White Looters???


White Looters in Iowa
By Mike S. Adams


During the week after Father’s Day, I received a number of interesting emails from readers asking me to write about the dearth of looting after the recent floods in Iowa. Specifically, they wanted me to write about the reason there was so much more looting in New Orleans after Katrina hit the “Chocolate City” in 2005. Of course, the problem involves so much more than race – a factor most people are thinking about, even if they won’t admit it.

That people would oversimplify many post-Katrina problems as “race problems” is unfortunate but somewhat understandable. I recall watching a Fox News reporter standing on a bridge in a flooded area of New Orleans just after Katrina. When the first black individual came wading out of the projects the reporter was simply astounded. Like me, the reporter had no idea that folks had been sitting in the projects waiting for someone to come and escort them out of harm’s way.

It was also sad to see that it was one black face after another emerging from the flooded waters. And it was sadder still that the words “we need” were the first spoken into the camera by these citizens – all utterly unprepared to provide for themselves and their families.

But of course the ugliest scenes were yet to come as looters would turn downtown New Orleans into a place more like downtown Baghdad. Some of the looters who would participate in the destruction of their own neighborhoods would later suggest that they were entitled to loot because of years and years of “oppression.”

Of course, talk of historical oppression goes a long way towards explaining why blacks would be more inclined to loot than whites. But it doesn’t go far towards explaining the fact that looters are predominantly male rather than female. At some point, variables other than race have to be written into the equation.

There is another observation that is just as obvious as the fact that black males are more likely than black females to take advantage of the opportunity to loot as a means of eradicating historical oppression. I am referring, of course, to the fact that black females are more likely than black males to take advantage of affirmative action as a means of eradicating historical oppression. In fact, overall differences between blacks and whites - in important areas including income and education – are largely due to the failures of black males relative to everyone else in society, including black females.

Sociologists have, at least to date, failed to grasp what lies behind this problem. This is largely because of their foolish contention that there are no inherent differences between men and women. They continue to believe, or pretend to believe, that gender differences are merely “socially constructed.” I believe otherwise.

A man has as an inherent component of his being a need to be useful in some form of occupation. He also needs to provide for his children if he has any. The man who is able-bodied and does not work does not need to be taught to feel worthless. He feels that way without instruction. That is why a man is less likely to be driven to unemployment by drink than to drink by unemployment. That feeling of worthlessness similarly accompanies the man who does not care for his children. And it need not be taught to him by others. He imagines what people should be saying to him long before the first aspersions are cast.

For some forty years now the government has been providing incentives for (predominantly minority) men not to work and for women not to keep them around to care for their children. This idea that they are not needed as workers or as fathers cuts against their nature as men. It is a very dangerous pair of ideas with a very dangerous pair of consequences – only one of which has been addressed in this short essay.

The violence that is committed in an act of looting is not born of some idea that a man is entitled to the things kept from him by historical oppression. The violence against another man’s place of work is born of his own sense of worthlessness for having not fulfilled his responsibilities as an able-bodied man. This non-sense about oppression is merely an afterthought – a form of rationalization in the Freudian sense. If used often enough it becomes more than an individual malady. It becomes a cultural malady as well.

But the personal violence exhibited by minority men against other minority men is not so easily explained by economic oppression. Enlightened minds can easily grasp the effect of illegitimacy - and I speak here of illegitimate fathers because there are no illegitimate children – on minorities raised in single parent homes. But I believe the separation of fathers from their children explains, not just the transmission, but the genesis of violence in minority communities.

Sociologists write volumes on the scores of black men executed annually in the criminal justice system. But they are silent regarding the thousands of minorities killed at the hands of other minorities annually. Such a thing would not be possible unless black males had come to hold other black males in such low regard. And that is something that, in turn, would not be possible unless they also held themselves in very low regard.

So I am not at all impressed that, on Father’s Day, Barack Obama chose to chastise black men for failing to take care of their children. It takes little courage to state the obvious fact that their absence will make things tougher on the current generation of children raised in single parent homes.

I would be far more impressed were there any indication that Barack Obama understood the impact the War on Poverty has had on the current generation of fathers who have been displaced by government programs. Of course, if he did understand that he might be tempted to admit that he, too, is contributing to a very complex problem. And there is every indication that, if elected president, he will continue to contribute to the problem and force the rest of us to contribute our “fair share” too.

Jeremiah Wright recently found himself embroiled in controversy for suggesting that the government invented the AIDS virus to kill black people. It would have been closer to the truth to say that was the reason they have injected the virus of government aid into minority communities.

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Dr. Moon
Location: TX

Reply # 125
Date: Jun 24, 2008 - 10:10 AM EST Subject: looters
Come on Mike, stop trying to be so politically correct. The facts are there are more Blacks waiting for help and looting than there are whites of either sex. In fact there are even more black females looting than white males. Liberals have ingrained this mindset into Black people that they deserve and need government help. Blacks are taught to live off the system instead of supporting themselves. Blacks are systematically lazy. As far as the one's looting and shooting, this is different. The one's looting and shooting are doing so because violence is a normal part of being black. Blacks are natural born thieves and criminals. It doesn't matter what they have or how rich they are they still have to break the law one way or another. Look at professional Black athletes, you never heard of professional athletes getting in trouble with the law until Blacks became dominant and they make millions more now than before. The same with Rap singers, millionaire criminals, everyone. They rape, steal, kill, drink, buy and sell dope, gamble on illegal dogs, whatever, they can do they do it. Even the wealthiest of all the politicians break laws at a much higher rate than their white counterparts. Wealth and education don't matter, its how they are wired. I know I be called a racist or worse but the truth is what it is in most cases.

Jim Williams says:

It is truly a waste of time trying to talk to lemons lemmings.People who use the most vulgar and childish language,calling people they don't even know filthy names and then calling them racist and hatemongers for calling someone a monkey.Truly a waste of time.

misanthrope says:

you all know none of this illegal immigrant shit matters, right?

the North American Union is closer than you think, with the economy reaching the bottom and government corruption at it's highest through all levels, state and federal, we are only a few short steps away from a complete loss of sovereignty.

then skin color won't matter, because we'll all be an equal piece of shit in the elitist's eyes, and since they have all the money, we'll all be fucked.

so have fun with your racism and chasing down illegals, stage your stupid picnics, rally around your sheriff, because inside of a decade we'll all be one nation. and i hope to god sheriff joe's still around to see all those Mexicans freely cross what use to be the border leading into a once great and free nation.

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