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The not-so great Gadsby: Looney-tunes MCC instructor Blair Gadsby hunger strikes John McCain over 9/11.

Fri May 23, 2008 at 10:00:18 AM

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MCC's Blair Gadsby, developer of the 9/11 diet plan.

Need more evidence that community college courses are too often taught by tards? Look no further than Mesa Community College instructor Blair Gadsby, MA, who apparently teaches a religious studies course at MCC (they have his title listed as "Substitute - Day Inst "), and is a full blown 9/11 wack-job in his copious free time. So much so that he reportedly plans a hunger strike at the Phoenix offices of Senator John McCain this Memorial Day to protest McCain's forward to the 2006 tome Debunking 9/11 Myths: Why Conspiracy Theories Can't Stand Up to the Facts.

According to a recent press release, Gadsby wants two hours with McCain to convince him of the error of his ways. Not that Gadsby has any evidence that 9/11 was an inside job. None of the "troofers" do. They just believe 9/11 was inside job. You know, kind of like how the Flat Earthers believe our globe is really a pancake, or how UFO-ologists are convinced the government has those alien bodies on ice out at Area 51. Gadsby joins such renowned 9/11 nutbar "profs" as Kevin Barrett, who once wrote in an e-mail that, "I would still have to characterize the Holocaust as it is taught in the US as a hideously destructive myth," as well as moonbatty philosophy don James "Uncle" Fetzer, and theology proctor David Ray Griffin, who alleges the calls from Flight 93 passengers to family members on 9/11 were faked using super-sophisticated voice morphing technology.

In his statement on the Web site patriotsquestion911.com, Gadsby indicates that the collapse of World Trade Center 7 "sealed it for me," even though the building "was not hit by an airplane." He's right, of course. WTC 7 was not hit by an airplane. Rather, it was hit by falling debris from the North Tower, and its interior burned nonstop all day before finally going down. But that's a pretty boring explanation, bolstered though it is by reality. A much more exciting thesis is that it was brought down in a controlled demolition, as part of a massive conspiracy by Dick Cheney, Karl Rove and the rest of the Bushies. Proof, schmoof! All you have to do is believe, baby.

I for one hope that Gadsby is successful in his hunger strike. Nah, I don't want him to get any time with McCain. I want him to starve! And as he does so, I'd like to be there, noshing on some Chinese takeout. Plus if Gadsby keels over from lack of sustenance, maybe his students will get a replacement religion prof who has a PhD and is not a complete fruitcake. Hey, dare to dream, people.

65 Comments:

Gabe says:

Wow! Another sophomoric 9/11 hit piece.

Seems like Stephen Lemon can't write anything that isn't filled with ad hom attacks and cheap shots.

wow, another smear against someone who wants to uncover mass murder.

Tom says:

QUOTE: "WTC 7 was not hit by an airplane. Rather, it was hit by falling debris from the North Tower, and its interior burned nonstop all day before finally going down. But that's a pretty boring explanation, bolstered though it is by reality."

What about the reality that the two adjacent (and much older concrete construction) buildings to WTC7, The Verizon building and The Old Post Office, as well as numerous other buildings, including WTC 5 and 6 and the Deutsche Bank, were all heavily damaged by debris and managed not to collapse in their own footprint.

How about finding ONE documented case of a multi-story, steel framed building, collapsing in it's own footprint, as a result of internal fire? (I hope you have lots of time and patience!)

How about finding another issue that has inspired someone to hunger strike in from of a presidential candidates offices?

Dan says:

Yeah. It WAS mass murder. By a bunch of pissed-off muslims. Shit. You 9/11 conspiracy theorists are seriously retarded.

Jamie says:

Wow. Not surprised by this at all. I took a class with this guy a couple years ago, and although a nice guy, he is a total nutjob.

Todd Stallion says:

Let me get this straight, Lemons believes that the Government is setting up a massive network of Internment Camps for Illegal Aliens, but the Government starting a war that earned defense contractors close to a Trillion dollars is CRAZY!

The Feathered Fucknut hopes the guy dies? Why, why should he die?

John McCain isn't going to investigate WTC7, he wrote the forward to the book covering up the Israeli Murder of American Sailors on the USS Liberty (his father ran the coverup)

Helen says:

it is so unfortunate for mr. lemmons and all the other people that have to insult 911 truthers...due to their lack of intelligence and/or knowledge. the internet offers you the opportunity to do your "homework" but why do that when you can just insult people. for all the "sheeple" that can't get past their own blindness...proves to me that propaganda and mind minipulation works as you prove over and over again that you CANNOT think beyond what you hear and are told to believe. that is the reason my nation continues supporting the criminals in the white house. so very very sad!!!

captain howdy says:

Conspiracy theorists have it easy, they can make stuff up, with no knowledge of the event, angrily ask you to disprove their stupid claims, and, if you do, they just accuse you of being part of the "Conspiracy" and make something else up.

They are like the dog that barks at the moon and thinks that they sent it away when it sets.

But, they will forever occupy the fringes and gutters of rational thought, fun to point and laugh at, but no one will ever take them seriously.

Keith Bigot says:

Speaking of those "frozen space aliens" hidden away at the Area 51 is quite true. The crash at Roswell, NM that happened years ago, where several alien bodies were discovered, 1 or 2 survived for a little while. Then they trnasported the space aliens to Area 51 including the wreakage to conduct experiements and research on alien technology and intelligence. This story is true. But the other nut-cracking stories such as 9/11 truthing was an inside job, is not.

But I agree with the Feathered Bastard though, that the bogus professor should starve to death. He's nuts. We got too many of them already!
Many of them are Natavists and Neo-Cons!

One of the funniest things about this is that Gadsby is starting this hunger strike on Memorial Day, a Federal holiday. Ergo, McCain's office won't even be open. Typical brainless Troofers!

I'll be there, Steve.

So, Mr Lemons, you want a man dead just because he disagrees with your views, is that it? And, I take it, you are prepared to defend the official theory of 9/11, are you not? I mean, you've got proof that it was Bin Laden & Co, right?

I could touch on the moral side of what you are doing but I'll save that for later. After all, discussing morals with someone who thoroughly lacks them is a waste of time - so let's see what you've got to say on the subject matter.

Slavyanski says:

Funny how all the demolitions experts and structural engineers support the "official" story, while it tends to be the professors of theology and other non-related studies who support the conspiracy claims.

LOOKING FOR FUN ON A RAINY DAY TROOFERS? Watch some videos of demolitions. Then watch footage of the towers collapsing, WITH SOUND. Notice anything different?

Tom is a good example of how these people simply lack the ability to reason. Let's break down his point a bit:

WTC7 was hit by falling debris, other buildings around it were hit by falling debris, ergo something must be fishy because only WTC7 fell. Can anyone see the obvious fallacy here?

Also,WTC7 did not fall "into its footprint." If you look at the aerial photographs you will see that it fell all over the place, some of it nearly taking a chunk out of the Verizon building.

Lastly, one might also ask, if the government was controlling this- why only those buildings, and why crash the fourth one into a field? Why does the government need to kill a large amount of people, but a few hundred or thousand more is suddenly too much?

For real answers on 911, go to 911myths.com, where you can see every major 9-11 claim debunked.

Big D says:

ae911truth.org

You want PHDs?

There you go son;)

Sivan says:

Lemons, I hope you enjoy Mr. Gadsby's suffering as much as these guys enjoyed themselves on 9/11.

http://web.archive.org/web/20011108025936/http://www.bergen.com/news/2bombvan200109125.htm

Paul says:

Wow, that was totally unbiased! Lets all remember it is the official 9/11 story that is lacking evidence and people within the 9/11 Truth Movement are only looking for clarification on a story that doesn't make sense. Too bad the government is totally uncooperative and secretive concerning 9/11, and that is what has led to the so-called "conspiracy theories". Should we not have a complete picture of 9/11, seeing that this event has changed our entire foreign policy? Go Blair I support you!

Slavyanski says:

As usual, the Troofers trot out the same moronic arguments.

First, I am not looking for "PHds" I want EXPERTS IN THE RELATED FIELDS. Stephen Jones knows dick about explosives and thermite. Even I have more personal knowledge about thermite than he does. I want structural engineers and demolitions experts. I want them to explain why this demolition does not look like any others. I would like them to explain why not ONE scrap of detcord, or one piece of a blasting cap was found, when if you bothered to check, you would have found that these are all over the place after a real demolition. I would like to know HOW THE HELL DID THEY PREP THIS BUILDING FOR DEMOLITION WITHOUT ANYONE NOTICING ANYTHING.


Next we have the idiotic claims that amount to: "We're just ASKING QUESTIONS!" No, you are making accusations, and then every piece of evidence that contradicts your incoherent claims is claimed to be fabricated, and lack of evidence for your claims is explained by the allegation of a coverup.

IF you were just asking questions, when someone told you that the building was actually taken down by demolitions, HERE is what you would have ASKED:

"Hmm....does this look ANYTHING like other building implosions?" (answer, no)

"Do I know ANYTHING about how buildings are demolished? Maybe I should check with a DEMOLITIONS expert before accepting this claim."

"Why are these Troofers always found making idiotic mistakes that could have been corrected by a two minute search on Google?"

"Why can't the Troofers come up with one coherent hypothesis about what actually happened?"

"Why is it that Troofers only argue with people who don't believe the conspiracy theory? Why does it seem as if they are fine with any theory as long as it is not the "official one".

These are those questions that Troofers never seem to ask. Also, stop acting like there is no evidence for the "official story." There is tons of evidence, you simply choose to claim it is all fabricated.

Rusty`s KIA says:

No luck for that poor Gadsby fellow over the Memorial Day weekend when Sen. Juan McCain actually showed up with Bush for a fundraising event.

Even Juan McCain thinks wack-nuts like him are a waste of time. But at least Gadsby was probably able to shred a few pounds over the weekend.

Senator John McCain R-Arizona supports Amnesty for Illegals....

White Supremacists are supporting Barak Obama according to David Duke`s interview.....

Cassandra says:

your an idiot.

The really interesting question is why so many people are working their asses off to prevent anyone from questioning the government's story on 9/11.

Have Shrub and Shotgun really endeared themselves to so many people, that they feel compelled to spend their days filling up blogs defending their honor? These poor, gullible individuals apparently believe that their govt has never lied to them and never will. Awww, that's sweet!

If you're six.

Their devotion to Shrub and Shotgun is such that to even QUESTION their story makes one (such as Gadsby) worthy of DEATH?

This Lemon really is a lemon.

Janet Murphy says:

Dear Mr. Stephen Lemons,
I was very afraid during september 11 and thereafter, especially about the anthrax. But I have a friend who travels a lot and she told me last year, everyone in Europe says it was an inside job. a What? i could not believe it, how disloyal to our country. So I said I will just see about this and I sat down and watched Loose Change, Version 2, and about 20 minutes into it there is a 50 year old firefighter who has gone up to the 52nd floor and says i got two isolated pockets of fire, here, two isolated pockets, i just needs two lines. Why would NYC firefighters with all that experience in high rise buildings and fires get completely fooled by this and go running in, if it makes so much sense now that those planes brought down the buildings? Check out Larry Silverstein on youtube, search for "Larry Pull It". We've got problems folks.

James Hatton says:

I am a retired civil engineer with with 40 years experience with structures, the last 20 of which involved dynamic evaluation of the safety performance of highway safety structures. I have studied the government's support for its explanations of the collapses of the twin towers and WTC 7 (the FEMA and NIST reports) and seismic records,videos and photos of the collapses of those buildings and am convinced that controlled demolition fits the evidence much better than the "fire-did-it" explanation offered by the government. The collapses of the towers certainly were not classical controlled demolitions. On the other hand, there is nothing stopping one from controlling the demolition of a building in the way the towers were demolished. I would also point out that NIST is a year and a half to two years late in issuing the report it was tasked to produce on why WTC 7 collapsed. I have taken this time to react to the truther bashers above in the hope that those with open minds will actually study the evidence and not simply accept the adhominem attacks and inaccurate or misleading statements made by the bashers.

Slavyanski says:

If you checked your own source, you would see several interesting things:

1. "Pull does not mean demolish a building."

2. Building lease-holders don't give orders to fire officials.

3. Fire officials and departments don't demolish buildings.

4. Larry, in the interview, did not say "pull it" or that he told anyone to pull it. He said "they made the decision to pull", meaning pull rescue workers back. The term pull them out and pull the operation was used several times in the context of getting firefighters out. It is not used in demolitions.

5. Larry would have to be the biggest idiot in the world to admit to doing such a crime on a TAPED interview. If you believe otherwise, you are what doctors would call "mentally retarded."


6. Nobody is preventing ANYONE from "asking questions" about 9-11. We are however, making fun of morons who are so gullible.

7. Loose Change, all editions, are hilarious for their blatant inaccuracies. Go to 911myths.com and you can view a whole viewers' guide which catalogs the errors they made. Some troof-seekers they are.

Slavyanski says:

Let me remind you morons that you have been accusing people of murder for about seven years now, and those cold-blooded killers haven't whacked a single one of you. Alex Jones has been online since. Stephen Jones didn't disappear.

You don't think they would touch such people after supposedly killing 3,000 people in such a risky gamble? Look up the name Anna Politkovskaya and see what happens when people uncover REAL government conspiracies and crime.

tom paine says:

Picture thousands of desks, computers and phones encased in concrete and steel, and suspended 110 stories high in the sky. Now, imagine them dropped suddenly to the ground. Do they turn to fine powder, the way the thousands of desks, computers and phones from the Twin Towers turned to powder Sept. 11, 2001? Of course not. They turn to rubble -- large chunks of stuff; big, wrecked pieces of furniture and electronic parts.

Only, that's not what happened on 9/11.

Why not?

phuk yu says:

Seriously, was that the best you could come up with? "I hope he starves"? Way to witicize about someone on a hunger strike.

"I'd rather see someone die for their beliefs than be granted 120 minutes to explain them." Is your definition of ignorance different than mine? It must be because you obviously can't tell that you epitomize it.

To Stephen Lemons readers:

Mr. Lemons is either:

1. A bought and paid for disinformation agent for the US Government. Google: Operation Mockingbird

Or:

2. A moron without a scrap of common sense, intellectual curiosity, and/or the ability to independently reason.

Either way you are proving yourselves idiots by reading his writings and should demand that he be replaced.

Etienne
http://www.involuntaryservant.blogspot.com

Slavyanski says:

As usual, the drooling morons have to accuse people of being government agents. But remember folks, they're "just asking questions!!!"

Greg says:

Folks,
there is enough questionable about the government's official story, including errors PUBLICLY ADMITTED by the creators of it ... Kean and Hamilton, as well as multiple ommissions to `warrant a new investigation' (as the truthers put it).

There is no doubt about that fact at all. There is no need for 100% proof (as the liars put it) to warrant a proper investigation. Grand juries indict people on far, far, far less evidence every single day. Most of the time all they need is to declare that a crime has been committed and the purpose of attempting to prosecute a guilty party. 9/11 has not yet had its criminal investigation.

You'd have to be completely ignorant or a paid shill to not admit this fact.

Andrew Watson says:

Blair gadsby is a courageous man. You owe your liberty to people like him who have faced up to evil and been prepared to make the ultimate sacrifice. Shame on you, sir.

patriotsquestion911.com

Slavyanski says:

It's always funny how those that claim the government at every brance is totally corrupt, is behind this conspiracy, and yet they want a new investigation. Investigation by whom?

David McIntosh says:

Slavyanski;

"Investigation by whom?" you say...

How about a REAL "independent" 9/11 Commission consisting of some of the people listed in the website Patriots Question 9/11? I'll even let you choose who, so you can weed out any individuals you think are too close to arms manufacturers and military branches, like most (all?) of the original Commisioners were. And for the Commission's executive director you can choose anyone who isn't a celebrated "public myth" scholar and administration insider, like Philip Zelikow was.

Slavyanski says:

I see, so we're going to let your conspiracy whackjobs investigate it. That's really great, because I am familiar with how these people think.

rational observer says:

Some, like the writer, are slow, and enjoy the embarrassment on some level, I guess. Go past the surface "evidence", and learn that not once in history has a steel frame building collapsed from fire, and certainly not at freefall speed into its own footprint. It's elementary physics. Controlled demolition is the most rational explanation, along with intimate inside cooperation. Stop being so goddamn naive and realize the government had every motive and benefitted enormously. And those are the ones you, most logically, would investigate first. The 9/11 commission was hardly independent enough to produce an accurate account. Thanks for the opportunity to sharpen my truth blade. I challenge you to provide one fact that contradicts what I have stated here.

Slavyanski says:

Once again, the morons make the same basic mistakes:

1. The towers did not fall at "free-fall speeds." This is apparent not only from seismic measurements, but simply by observing the speed of large debris which falls faster than the towers.

2. Actually many steel frame buildings have collapsed due to fire(the WTC did not collapse solely to fire, remember, PLANES hit them?). Did you ever bother to CHECK when someone told you that for the first time?

Controlled demolition is idiotic for a number of reasons, the main one being that it would be impossible to rig such a building for demolition without people noticing. That and it does not look anything like a controlled demolition...oh, and the fact that controlled demolition doesn't necessarily make buildings fall at "free-fall" speeds. And not a scrap of demolition related material was found anywhere around ground zero. And the fact that crashing planes into the buildings could have interfered with the demolition somehow.

Anonymous says:

Slavyanski.
How much do you get paid for your services? More than the Winged Bastard?

Anyway, we ALL know how patriots think. It's pretty basic all-American stuff: They love their country and compatriots. They cherish the freedom of truth over the fetters of lies. They respect the law--by which I mean the constitution and pre-9/11 false flag laws. They believe in justice. They want peace.

But, since you think all of the patriots questioning 9/11 are "cospiracy whackjobs," how about re-calling the original Commision's co-chairs Kean and Hamilton, and letting them have another go. This time we could give them full subpoena powers and Bush and Cheney can answer questions separately, under oath, in public view. Would that satisfy you?

And who would YOU pick for executive director?

David McIntosh says:

(Sorry, I posted a few minutes ago without my name and e-mail)

Slavyanski.
How much do you get paid for your services? More than the Feathered (Tethered?) Bastard?

Anyway, we ALL know how patriots think. It's pretty basic all-American stuff: They love their country and compatriots. They cherish the freedom of truth over the fetters of lies. They respect the law--by which I mean the constitution and pre-9/11 false flag laws. They believe in justice. They want peace.

But, since you think all of the patriots questioning 9/11 are "cospiracy whackjobs," how about re-calling the original Commision's co-chairs Kean and Hamilton, and letting them have another go. This time we could give them full subpoena powers and Bush and Cheney can answer questions separately, under oath, in public view. Would that satisfy you?

And who would YOU pick for executive director?

TheParadigmShift says:

We need an independant investigation that isn't hand picked by suspect number 1, the Bush Administration. Afghans or Iraqis didn't have NORAD standdown for 88 minutes in the most protected airspace on Earth and they certainly didn't implode WTC 7. Mr. Lemons should be fired for his hateful ignorant propaganda hit piece.

Ian Woods says:

When the truth comes out about what really happened on 9/11, Stephen Lemons will be ashamed of what he said about Blair Gadsby. Instead of "noshing on some Chinese takeout" he'll be "eating (some boiled) crow."
I commend Blair Gadsby for his personal satyagraha. It reminds me of Mia Hamel's daring act of civil disobedience at the entrance to the Tampa Bay Shopping Mall (Aug. 9/06) which resulted in, not only her arrest, but some wonderful television coverage by Fox 13 (See Global Outlook Issue #12, p. 78). You can probably still see her brave leafletting of those people who just saw the premier of the Hollywood movie "World Trade Centre" on YouTube. I wish others would put on the "NO FEAR" 9/11 Truth hat which Blair Gadsby and Mia Hamel have donned! It's having a HUGE ripple effect.

~ Ian Woods, Publisher/Editor Global Outlook.
(If you want to get a free catalog of DVDs for Concerned Citizens, send us your address to: Info@GlobalOutlook.ca). Good luck Blair!

Scottsdale activist Blair Gadsby is a good man and I call him a friend. Thank you Blair for your determined work. You are awesome.

Anon says:

The towers falling and Building 7 were ALL controlled demolition.. 9/11 was NOT an inside Job.. but we surely aren't getting the full story.. Planes hit building, and SOME GROUP planted demolition device in WTC towers and building 7... the building were in 'free fall'.. there was LIQUID metal.. this was a demolition, the planes did not cause the towers to fall.. The terrorists with help from who knows who, brought down the towers using explosives.. the planes flying in to everything was just the 'BIG' eye catcher...

C.Lewis says:


Perhaps the FBI should be added to the Phoenix NewTimes "retard" list; after all, their stated reason that bin laden is NOT on the FBI 10 Most Wanted list for the 911 attacks is simply because, according to the FBI, there is NOT one single shred of evidence linking him to the 911 attacks.

In 2001 Bush pointed his finger at bin Laden claiming he (Bush) had "massive and overwhelming evidence" linking bin laden to the attack, so, WHERE IS IT!!!

The ONLY ones touting the bin Laden "myth" are the Bush/Cheney regime and their personal mainstream media.

Now that we know they lied about the war in Iraq, Valerie Plamme, the illegal domestic spying AMD MORE; why on earth should we believe the l-i-a-r-s, LIARS about bin Laden?!

C

Azazel says:

9/11 was an inside job.

Why dont you go down to McCain's office and say this to Blair's face stephen? I hope Im there when you do...

FYI: I also beleive in the 2nd amendment. I hope you know which one that is.

Jennifer says:

Wow, this must be the least intelligently written piece I have read in a long time. Filled with hate and insults, but awfully light on details and facts. A hit piece on a man of Blair Gadsby's character is a disgrace to us all. You sir, should be ashamed.

Joe Stokes says:

I'm providing some links for those who wish to do their homework. It is truly sad that in this age of easily accessible information there exist so many with so little curiosity.

Video

Explosive Testimony:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZ4dVo5QgYg&v2

FOREKNOWLEDGE!
Giuliani Told "World Trade Center was gonna collapse" 3 min video:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6357586375896950217

The Third Stage 23 minutes
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5224963246223576086&hl=en

WTC7: The Smoking Gun of 911 16 minutes
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2073592843640256739

David Ray Griffin: 9/11 The Myth & The Reality
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-275577066688213413

Flight 77: The Flight Data Recorder Investigation Files 54 min.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2833924626286859522

‘911 and the British Broadcasting Conspiracy’
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1882365905982811133

How the Towers Fell - Richard Gage Architect 2hr Presentation
http://www.911blogger.com/node/10025

Firefighter John Schroeder Tells the Truth About 9/11 47 min
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=53815767687186956

September 11 Revisited: Were Explosives Used?
http://www.911revisited.com/video.html

Firemen and Emergency Workers Testimony
http://youtube.com/watch?v=nXQzZU7Rfwk

Kean, Hamilton did little more than lend their Names, The Investigation was all PHILIP ZELIKOW:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuoQZkBFj9A

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Websites

http://www.ae911truth.org/
Website for Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth

http://pilotsfor911truth.org/
Pilots for 9/11 Truth

http://www.scholarsfor911truth.org/
Scholars for 9/11 Truth

http://www.patriotsquestion911.com/
Patriots Question 9/11

http://www.v911t.org/
Veterans for 9/11 Truth

http://www.911blogger.com/
911blogger: The latest TRUTH about 911

http://www.911truth.org/
911Truth.org

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PowerPoint Presentation

9/11: Re-examining the 3 WTC High-rise Building "Collapses"
The AE911Truth PowerPoint multimedia slide presentation!
• 318 slides — Proceed at your own pace!
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http://www.ae911truth.net/ppt/

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Oral Histories

The Sept. 11 Records
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/html/nyregion/20050812_WTC_GRAPHIC/met_WTC_histories_full_01.html
A rich vein of city records from Sept. 11, including more than 12,000 pages of oral histories rendered in the voices of 503 firefighters, paramedics, and emergency medical technicians, were made public on Aug. 12. The New York Times has published all of them.

The oral histories of dispatch transmissions are transcribed verbatim. They have have not been edited to omit coarse language.
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/html/nyregion/20050812_WTC_GRAPHIC/met_WTC_histories_full_01.html

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270+ 9/11 'Smoking Guns'
Found in the Mainstream Media
http://killtown.911review.org/911smokingguns.html

mo fo says:

Wow. The anger that is spouting from Slavyanski and the like is interesting. I think that in itself says it all. Isn't this America? Are you really saying that it is NOT OKAY to investigate 9/11??? Are you really saying that?

Why not? What are you afraid of?

Merrill Peterson says:

There's tons of evidence that the official story isn't true and that a different conspiracy was at play on 9/11:

cell phones don't work from airplanes above a couple thousand feet

without a stand down order, the hijacked planes would have been intercepted and shot down

evidence of thermate was found on some of the steel beams

burning jet fuel and office furnishings don't burn hot enough to soften or melt steel

the top of the south tower would have continued to tip (due to the conservation of momentum) if it hadn't been exploded

without an intact top, there was no hammer to pound the rest of the buildings into dust; if the top remained intact to pound the lower floors, that top would have had to remain on top of the demolished pile of rubble

the so-called hijackers' names don't appear on the lists of passengers, and many of the named individuals are still alive

an administration official admitted (in a Freudian slip) that flight 93 was shot down and that a missile hit the Pentagon

black boxes preserve their data even in the worst accidents, because of the way they are designed

there is no credible or physical evidence linking bin Laden to the attacks, as admitted by the FBI

the list of such anomalies is huge and demands a real, independent investigation.

ALH says:

There are alot of holes and inconsistencies in the "9-11" official story. There has never been a complete, independent investigation of 9-11 and no one is allowed to question the "official" story. The media automatically labels them a nutjob or nutcase for daring to question things as they appear. We are just expected to accept everything we are told even though we were lied into a war in Iraq in the name of who knows what: to supposedly find WMD's which were never found, then to liberate the Iraqi's who don't want us there, etc, etc. The so-called War on Terror started after 9-11 and it is neverending and will lead to more wars and a police state in this country. Instead of attacking an individual for daring to speak up, he needs to be applauded for thinking for himself and not following the "herd" mentality that is more and more evident in this country everyday.

Steve says:

There is enough evidence for any open-minded, reasonably intelligent human to realize there are numerous questions to be asked about 9/11. I happen to have an engineering degree and know that something can only fall at "freefall" speed if there is no resistance to slow it down. I also know that the adminstration's plans to occupy Iraq, Afghanistan and implement new laws like the "Patriot" act could only be accomplished if the American people were made to feel so scared that they would willingly give up their constitutional rights.
I find it funny that some no talent hack of a reporter who works for a rag that has to be given away is questioning the competence of a man willing to risk his own health for the sake of a debate on this subject. It is sad that the dumb little sheep who are too afraid to take their heads out of the sand and ask some questions make up the majority of the mental midgets who write these pieces.

Robert K says:

Looks like Stephen Lemons is long on rhetoric and short on fact; long on ignorance and short on logic.
This commentary piece is a real winner from a real loser.
Hey Stephen!
Why don't you explain the building 7 demolition since you think you have it all together on 9/11.
Too busy flying around your editorial UFO?
Try landing on fact for a change and keep your stupidity somewhere in the stratosphere where anyone passing by can get high on life...

Think for Yourself says:

Mr. Lemons would prefer to substitute ridicule for evidence and demonstrates a complete ignorance of the NIST and FEMA reports provided by the US Government. See "Fourteen Points of Agreement with Official Government Reports on the World Trade Center Destruction" by Dr. Steven Jones, et al, Open Civil Engineering Journal (available on the internet).

www.patriotsquestion911.com lists the public statements of 130+ senior military, intelligence service, law enforcement and government officials, 480 architects and engineers, 110+ pilots and aviation professionals, 260+ professors, and 210+ 9/11 survivors and family members. Take a look and think for yourself. Or if you prefer to have Mr. Lemons tell you what to think, go back to sleep.

Anonymous says:

Blair is setting a fine example for the 911 movement, and rather than fasting, huge groups need to camp out at every major office of our falsely elected officials, at every media place, and confront also the local churches, because these ones, if they keep wishing to be the body of Christ had best see the antichrist and take him out.

911 movement tends to think that once enough know, it will all get hung out. Will, enough do Know now and it's past time to take action. Let's get to work, the movies are made, the websites up, its time to work, and Blair needs to be joined by many, many others, in tents camping out, until McCain answers the questions.

Dan Noel says:

The average Feathered Bastard reader can only wonder what compels the writer to use so much vitriol to emphasize simple points. Despise, mockery and insults may be heavy arguments, but they are not convincing. A 30 line summary of the destruction of the twin towers would have put this hunger strike in its proper perspective.

After all, a hypothetical expertly designed demolition of the twin towers would have left unmistakable clues behind: steel beams, including the support columns, would have been cut into near-identical short pieces, with sharp cuts bearing chemical or mechanical marks of local melting or shearing; the destruction would have been symmetrical, hitting all 4 corners of the building simultaneously; since no buildings nearly this big have ever been demolished, one would not even exclude to find a significant quantity of liquefied iron in the basements right after the operation; much of the contents of the buildings would have been reduced to dust; that dust would probably contain solidified drops of exploded steel, and maybe even leftover fragments of explosive ingredients; witnesses would have heard distinctive deafening explosions and probably seen flashes through windows; in order to properly weaken the frames, some explosions would probably have had to take place before the demolitions.

In short, the FBI and a panel of civil engineers would have figured it out within hours. And no matter how much people may distrust our government and our media, it is very far-fetched to think that they would not have truthfully reported this expert finding.

Love,

lemons calls it a conspiracy theory.
I call it physics.
lemons doesn't care about the truth.
hes just a fat looser who gets off on creating controversy.

a hunger strike for lemons is skipping that fifth meal.

Doubter says:

I see the alternative media is not much of an alternative, eh? 3000 people murdered, most of the world smells a rat, same media that sold the war wouldn't lie to us about 9/11 now would they?

The conversation level here is not surprisingly low. The man is willing to die for what he believes in, you should have some respect. Are you a sociopath? If so, why are you published? You have all the compassion of Rudolf Hoess. But take heart - Goebbels would be proud of you.

Rodger from Woodinville WA says:

It is much easier to not think, and accept, as Steve Lemons does, as most people do, the government's outlandish theory of the events of 9/11.
So, Hats off to Steve. His vulgar insult of the attempts of a thinking, concerned, and well intentioned citizen to get the ear of an elected official
could inadvertantly help to do what the generally polite and rationally minded 911 truth community could never do by itself: plunge the state of Arizona into a brouhaha that could inflame the entire US. Let's hope so, for such an out-in-the-open brouhaha is sorely needed to resolve the cognitive dissonance brought about by the official theory.

Slavyanski says:

Again and again we see that the troofers cannot propose a coherent hypothesis, instead they regurgitate a list of supposed "holes", many of which are erroneous, most often because the troofers don't bother to CHECK their facts first. For example, aside from the fact that cell phones do work from planes at certain altitudes, the recorded calls were made from the AIRFONES.

Another example is the claim that "thermate was found on the steel beams." NEWSFLASH: THERMATE is not, and cannot be used, to create a controlled demolition. When thermate is ignited, it basically burns downward following gravity, and it cannot be controlled. Plus, thermate was not found in the beams- nutcase Stephen "Cold Fusion" Jones claimed that sulfur found in the wreckage was evidence of thermate being used, as sulfur is an ingredient. Too bad Professor Wacky seemed to miss the fact that it is also a major ingredient in drywall and ceiling panels.

Tell me Troofers- why do your leaders lie to you so frequently? I thought they had troof on their side?

I believe that in this thread we have seen every major claim and tactic of the 9-11 troof movement, which I described in detail a few weeks ago.

mo fo says:

Slavyanski, your "troof" is getting old.

Trying to turn everyone away from seeking the truth by making fun of them and calling them crazy is rather juvenile.

It's important to us as Americans to resolve this question in our minds... maybe some terrorist group was able to get in there and implode this building. We need to know how this was able to be accomplished... as Americans... to keep us safe in the future.

If these steel framed buildings collapsed in their own footprints from fire, (in the path of most resistance at nearly free fall speed) that would be a first. And so we need to examine the reasons so that the builders can figure out why so that, for safety reasons, it doesn't happen again.

It is very UNAMERICAN to NOT want to find out the reason for the basic structure collapse resulting in the deaths of so many Americans. If airplanes can cause these massive structures demise, than we need to investigate... for safety reasons.

Please dispute this. I am not an expert. I'm an American, so you can make fun of my lack of knowledge all you want. I WANT ANSWERS.

ShawnB says:

Shorebreak on another thread made an excellent suggestion. If the kooky kook troofy troofers were to present their so-called "evidence" (LOL) to the real aviation & structural engineering experts, on live TV, this crazy nonsense would stop. Maybe New Times could find some airline pilots & structural engineers to at least debate in an article with the troofy troofer's "experts" (LOL). How can we make this happen?

mo fo says:

ShawnB: Get a life you freak. What are you afraid of? What crazy nonsense? Do you think if you keep using the word crazy you'll make it all better?

And it DOES make you sound smart when you say "kooky kook troofy troofers." Gosh, now you really don't sound crazy.

I have so much I'd like to say to you, but you wouldn't understand. You have no ability to think for yourself.

mo fo says:

hahaha...ShawnB... the last laughs on you. In response to your June 5, 3:41 comment:

Gabe says:
To Shorebreak and ShawnB:

FYI, members from scholars for 9/11 truth have issued repeated invitations to Popular Mechanics, NIST, and anyone willing to defend the government's version of the 9/11 attacks to a public debate. To date, NIST and PM have refused to participate in any kind of debate. We can only speculate why they are so reluctant to "end the discussion".

And btw, there are "real experts" who doubt the official account, including professors of structural engineering.

Erik Larson says:

the only people who still believe the official 9/11 BS are those who haven't looked at this timeline made from over 5000 exclusive mainstream sources; govt reports and statements, MSM, establishment institutions, etc.
http://cooperativeresearch.org/project.jsp?project=911_project

peacefulwarrior says:

Wow! This guy is ignorant and needs to do his homework if he wants to grow up to be a reporter! Come on out all you skeptics where ever you are and tell me how world trade center building 7 came down at virtual free fall speed into it's own foundation footprint. Nothing left but dust! Don't believe in controlled demolitions: your the flatearthers. Sad but true your goverment is lying to You! Sorry but I didn't want to hear the truth either, but this country is in trouble and it's time to wake up. Blair is a superpatriot and the guy who wrote the article is just a lemon.

Science is Investigation says:

I heard that only one file cabinet was found out of two 110-story office buildings. Is this true?

There must have been thousands of file cabinets in there. And a hundred vending machines, and hundreds(thousands?)of refridgerators. Thousands of cubicals, huge photocopy machines, tvs from lobbies, toilets, couches, dry-erase boards, printers, desk chairs, janitor closets, mops, briefcases, Windows on the World Restaurant kitchen, Sightseeing Observation deck machinery, virtual reality New York City ride for tourists, board room meeting tables, laptops, tall rows of computer servers,framed artwork, water coolers, sinks, desk lamps, doors, fire exstinguishers, backpacks, bulletin boards, scissors, staplers, pencil sharpeners, stereo systems, cds, vcrs, waiting room toys for children, magazine racks, carpets, microwaves, etc.

Look at the photos. Do you see any of this? We're talking of a combined 220 floors. No trace of a thousand human bodies.
Those buildings didn't fall down.

Kasey Kahne says:

You know what's sad!?

Among 13 other LIES you believe, the government is now acknowledging that they have no explanation for the total collapse of any of the towers, they destroyed ALL of the evidence from tower 7... and no "official" report has been filed.
But you will never hear about that on the news.

It's also sad that MOST Americans chose to insult those of us who can funkin READ and THINK for themselves.

This is the NEW "official" story by the USG/FEMA/NIST.
http://www.bentham-open.org/pages/content.php?TOCIEJ/2008/00000002/00000001/35TOCIEJ.SGM

But you won't hear about it on the news... they are too busy warning us over and over about the EVIL TOMATOS!

SUCKERS !!!


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