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Dennis Gilman's May Day video; RAIA-founder Buck Young dies; and ACU's Keith Lefebvre insults former Marine Bob Haran.

Fri May 09, 2008 at 12:24:20 PM


Pro-immigrant activist Dennis Gilman's video of the nativists' May Day clambake.

Dennis Gilman, the bad-boy of the local pro-immigrant community, recently posted the video above of Rusty Childress' 2008 May Day demonstration at the state capitol, one I blogged about, here. This gathering of some 50 persons was attended by members of hate groups like Riders Against Illegal Aliens and United for a Sovereign America. It was supposed to be a counterdemonstration to a pro-immigration march, though there was no such march scheduled. (Whoops.) The demo was also meant as a sort of kick-off wing-ding for the recall of Mayor Phil Gordon by the PHX's anti-immigrant moonhowlers.

Gilman crashed the event, lending some tension to the otherwise dull happening. In fact, Gilman got the knuckledraggers so riled that the capitol police had to pull him aside at one point, likely for fear that the nativist knaves were about to jump him.

In his video, Gilman rightly wonders why anyone with two licks of sense would sign a recall petition circulated by these aggro losers, especially considering the way they were carrying around a sign with Gilman's name, address and phone number on it. (What do you think they might do with your address, should you sign their petition?) The video's almost like an episode of The Beverly Hillbillies, minus the mansion. What kills me is the way these goons wrap themselves in Old Glory to help rationalize their xenophobia and hatred. The Confederate battle flag would be more appropriate for their cause.

The portly, hirsute guy in the red-white-and-blue do-rag who's pointing to the placard with Gilman's address on it is Buck Young, founder of the anti-immigrant bike group Riders Against Illegal Aliens. According to Childress' immigrationbuzz.com, Young was killed in a motorcycle accident just days after this video was shot, ironically on the evening of Cinco de Mayo. The immigrationbuzz.com item links to news reports about the collision, though these reports do not mention names. Apparently, Young was pinned under the car he crashed into, and died at the scene. Each news item mentions that neither Young nor the other driver were impaired in any way.

The guy was certainly a character, and I had relatively civil conversations with him on a couple of occasions. What he chose to stand for, however, was particularly pernicious. I mean, just look at the cartoon on his site, where a motorcyclist is chasing a brown guy with a bandanna on. Reminds me of that line from The Bard, "The evil that men do lives after them; the good is oft interred with their bones."

Couple more points about Gilman's video: He uses images of J.T. Ready and Russell Pearce for effect. It's worth mentioning for the record, however, that the photo of them together and of J.T. at the Nazi rally, are not from this year's May Day event. Also, Gilman states that Elton Hall is mentioned in neo-Nazi publications. Actually, he's mentioned in scholarly works about the white supremacist movement. Hall was once an organizer for George Lincoln Rockwell's American Nazi Party. Because of that, he's lionized by young skinheads to this day. Finally, Gilman's video and his opinions are his own. I first saw the video after Gilman posted it to YouTube. It's worth watching for the footage of the May Day stuff alone, I think.

Lastly, in today's nativist watch, check out the exchange below between Keith "Loose Screw" Lefebvre, the so-called "State Media Liason [sic]" for American Citizens United, the group trying to recall Phil, and Republican activist Bob Haran. You'll remember that last week Haran denounced the recall as futile and separated himself from the group, which he helped found along with anti-Hispanic Hispanic Anna Gaines. Haran seems like a class act to me. Lefebvre, not so much. If this is the guy you choose to be your media spokesman, you're in some deep doo-doo. Lefebvre can't seem to communicate without threatening someone. Hardly a quality you want in a PR flack, even an amateur one.

In any case, Lefebvre himself is but one more reason why this recall is a joke, and doomed to failure. It should be noted that Haran served in combat during the Vietnam War as a U.S. Marine, making Lefebvre's e-mail that much more scurrilous.

From keith.lefebvre@yahoo.com 5/5/2008 9:11 AM
Good morning Bob,

Just a quick note to point out that your letter posted in the New Times was nothing less than a cowardly traitorous act on your part, in my humble opinion.

You and people like you that have allowed their ego to overcome their patriotism are a disgrace to those that continue their efforts with a clear conscious.

It is no wonder that so many consider you a "has been" that never was.

Just one mans observation, I wish you many sleepless nights.

Bob Haran's reply:

No, I just did it because I didn't know some of these people claiming to represent American Citizens United. But now that I have some correspondence from you, after you made fools of yourself and the organization I named and wrote the mission statement for, I see I made a good decision because I sure the hell wouldn't want my good name connected with someone of your mentality.

The fact is genius, you never would have been able to recall the mayor of Phoenix, and you would have done the movement more harm then good by being soundly defeated by someone seen as representing the pro-immigration side of the issue, to say nothing of dividing the community further between Anglo and Hispanic. But you probable would enjoy that, maybe even spill a little blood on the streets of Phoenix.

The next time you steal an organization's name, please let the president of that organization knows you're going to do something stupid before you hold a press conference claiming to represent that organization.

If you want to know what's holding back the immigration control movement, look in the mirror.

And just for the fun of it, just because you sound like you're some sort of Nazi or white supremacist, and because I never herd of you before, I think I'll share you're stupid comments with the press, just incase something happens to me because you sound like you just got out of the penitentiary and that's the only way you know how to fight politically.

BOB HARAN,
Phoenix

To you guys in the press, I don't know who this wacko is but I have seen his name in some news reports regarding the Gordon recall. Some real idiots have been trying to hitch-hike on the immigration issue to advance their racist agenda, that's why we formed American Citizens United, to get away from people like that. I don't know what the agenda of this nut case is, but if something nefarious should become me, you might have a scoop. I've had many political differences with people but I never got anything like this before.

76 Comments:

Kochise says:

Lets be clear on Elton Hall`s "American Fuerher" aka George Lincoln Rockwell(1918-67) of the American Nazi Party is nothing to boast about. For one....

1.) Rockwell was so damn broke during that time, the IRA has seized his assest.

2.) Rockwell was an alcoholic drifting into constant states of depression, alienating himself from his family.

3.) His ANP was basically a "paper organization" which never mounted to anything.

4.) The FBI was not interested in monitoring them in the COINTELPRO program simply because ANP had less than 200 members(it was actually said its membership to be somewhere between 10-50) they didn't pose any significant threat to society or the government for that matter.

5.) George Lincoln Rockwell was assasinated by John Patler a fellow member of that party

http://www.salon.com/books/review/1999/19/simonelli/

It was nothing to be proud about. It was all a sham.

Todd Stallion says:

Thanks for bringing up COINTELPRO

Many of the so called Neo-Nazis at these rallies are most likely FEDs or working with the FEDs to take over any political movement that is counter establishment and discredit the movement.

This ADL / SPLC moutpiece, Feathered Fucktard then works to amplify this poisoning of the well by focusing on these people.

Seriously any one with a brain knows that marching in the street with Nazi flags is a total PR nightmare and is not going to advance any cause. Unless your cause is ADL / SPLC fundraising, or marginalizing anti-North American Union groups.

~Brandy~ says:

As usual, you people got it wrong...

We, USA, RAIA, etc. are PRO IMMIGRATION.

You are PRO ILLEGAL MIGRATION.
(Immigrants come here legally.)

If you don't know or understand the difference you are part of the problem.

JimJim says:

For the benefit of our semi-literate race-haters, IMMIGRATION is defined as:

"migration into a place (especially migration to a country of which you are not a native in order to settle there)"

Perhaps if you would learn to speak and write English you could then read -- and fully understand -- the U.S. Constitution.

Smooth says:

WOW....you are right....that exchange between "Loose Screw" Lefebvre and Haran is incredibly threatening......LOL....Bird...you are an incredible journalist. The Pulitzer is coming....I can see it now.....I hope someone will take the time out to point out the threatening part in that exchange.

Laughable...absolutely laughable....please...don't bother to respond because it will only disrupt the warm glow that I feel as I read your reporting skills.
LOL....Smell that??? That is the sweet scent of victory in the air!!

Kochise says:

Todd Stallion what is exactly the "anti-North American Union groups" you're referring to? Who are they?

I think you exaggerated COINTELPRO.
The program which was overseen by J. Edgar Hoover was specifically designed to "neutralize" certain targets who may have significant power to drum up large events. Most of the targets consists of individuals and organizations whose influence greatly impacted society by means of violence.
ANP wasn't exactly on their hit list.

ANP was so pathetic and weak that Rockwell was their only asset. They didn't pose any danger to the government, let alone no spies were need to discredit them. The jewish groups only had to used their influence on the media through methods by "quaratined" the ANP, draining the lifeblood of their publicity through isolation.

Informats were only used in other legit orgs(mostly communists and socialists groups) during their operations, up until 1971.

I don't see what the "anti-North American Union groups" have anything to do with COINTELPRO.

Dennis gilman says:

Bob Haran did a smart thing getting this info out as did I. Thanks Steve for understanding the danger of these people and looking out for us.
Its 2:42 AM and I just received a threatening Phone call repeating my address on my phone. Telling me "My Days
are Numbered". The police are on the way.

Brandy,
No one is buying the whole " We are Pro Immigration" crap. You are hanging with Thugs who threaten those who are brave enough to go up against them. And you are racists who do nothing to promote Legal Immigration, you dont lobby for sensable laws that make it easier for families (thats parents that are not brother and sister and their children,ect..probably doesn't meet the membership criteria of USA or your emotionally crippled motercycle group) to stay in this country even though they work and live decent lives and dont threaten people in the middle of the night.


jimjim says:

The act of advertising the address and phone number to a hostile audience - coupled with taunting - is clearly a threat.

Only the most mendacious and dissembling of posters would state otherwise.

Todd Stallion says:

This is hilarious...

Someone complaining about their address being posted... ON THE FUCKING NEW TIMES WEBSITE!!!

Get the fuck out of here you douche bag, the New Times posted the home address of the Sheriff and County Attorney (who I think suck)

One only needs to look at the fact that in Mexico in the last week, the head of the Mexico City PD and another top Ranking Official were assasinated... To understand what a complete asshole move on the part of the New Times this was.

So Gilman, man up pussy, get a fucking conceal carry permit and grow a set of testes, people who assasinate don't call and warn you, you fucking crybaby...

The Anti-Todd says:

Todd, you foul fuck-faced diaper-eating moron. Why don't you man up yourself, you goober-eating gelding. Use your real name online before you start ordering people around like the tampon-sucking scumbag that you are. And try getting your facts straight. New Times didn't publish the County Attorney's address. It published the Sheriff's address. And that, if you know how to use Google, you fart-sniffing twit, is available all over the place. You've got no cojones, you piece of shit troll. And no business calling someone else a pussy, you pussy.

D.J. Racist Ryke says:

Dennis I think you ought to go to the police and file a harrassment report. Cops can actually trace the call if the threats are serious enough to cause imminent danger to yourself or your family. This is a serious offense and can lead to the arrest and convictions of those involve. Todd thinks this is funny, it will only be funnier if those actually making the threats are arrested, showing the true hyprocrisy of these so-called pro-law screamers when they themselves are actually breaking the friggin law.
That means more criminal or criminals exposed in the folds of those hate groups. Adding another bad reputation to their rap sheet as a criminal enterprise.
This act alone should thwart members who want no part of it!
Seeing for themselves, who`s the REAL "traitors" to the Law.

Jack Harris--George Gascon get these law breakers off the streets!!

B says:

As always you refuse to print the facts, even from the police concerning the accident that took a life!

Nice music Gillman to cover up all your questions harassing citizens who had a permit to hold American pride day.

Anyone there knows that Russel Pearce wasn't even there let alone J.T. Ready who BTW has not been a member of USA for well over a year.

Eldon Hall more recently was a U.S. Vet.

Notice you didn't show how the "feathered Bastard refused to say the American pledge.

Also see you cut everything on your being a dead beat dad!

Bet you won't print this either, that is why New times will never be a legitimate reporter of the news. You are about the most racist publication there is along with La raza!

FrankG says:

Ain't karma a bitch?

Steele says:

I agree Todd, but Dennis Gilman will never own his own set of testicles, only occasionally have a set resting on his chin.

Hypocrisy is the norm of this worthless rag, but the whiny liberal "victims" will praise anyone or anything that will allow them to vent.

Please Dennis, go buy a gun. I've got $100 you'll shoot yourself in the foot or the recoil will cause you to hit yourself in your sissy face and you'll need to wear more make-up than you usually do on a night out on the town.

The VFW did not give up your address Dennis, actually no one ever asked the VFW. We had that information long before the VFW / Elton Hall bullshit. And quit the victim, phone calls in the middle of the night bullshit. We have a list of addresses and phone numbers. Don't hear any of your other feathered friends needing to lie about threatening phone calls.

Might be one of your children calling in the middle of the night since they can't sleep because they are hungry. Pay your child support asshole. Your feeble attempt to prove to the world that your were heterosexual comes with a financial responsibility Dennis.

What type of idiot would make a call to anyones home that could be tracked???? Only a stupid fag like you Dennis.

Poor Dennis, is that what you are looking for, sissy boy????? Playing the victim might be natural for you, but no one with any common sense will buy into it.

That limits the numbers on this blog down to a very few.

B-kool says:

Hey B-racist,

The guy's name is Elton Hall. Not Eldon.

George Lincoln Rockwell was a vet too. So was Timothy McVeigh. So was Hitler, for that matter.

And your point is? Because Hall's a vet, that excuses his National Socialism?

J.T. Ready's a vet too. Though he was court-martialed twice and booted from the marines.

Ready may not be attending USA meetings right now. But June of last year he was speaking at a racist event at the capitol and hanging out with USA people.

He also attended one of the last USA meetings at the Childress dealership.

Salvador Reza's a vet. Don't see u mentioning that.

As for the rest of ur blather, u make about as much sense as the attempt to recall Gordon by these dumb racists.

Morbid Visions of Natavism says:

Perhaps Dennis should start changing his appearance to look more tough. Shave his head bald, grow a goatee and wear eye contacts rather than glasses(or sunglasses is better).
Get both ears peirce with earings
Wear combat boots, don a concert shirt along with rugged jeans with a biker chain.
That way he won't look alot like a "pussy".

Mary says:

Hey Bastard, what is a do-rag?

Anonymous says:

Here's some breaking news for you liberals. DO 1.4.3 is done, Phoenix Police will now start enforcing all immigration laws.

All individuals contacted by Officers will be required to prove immigration status and a phone call to ICE is now policy.

The Department has just finished training almost 3000 Officers in the 287(g)Federal Immigration course. There will be a press release next week.

Gordon has begun to cave under the REAL threat of recall.

Anonymous says:

The Phoenix Law Enforcement Association is opposed to increasing the risks carried by Phoenix police officers as well as increasing expenditures of resources paid for by Phoenix citizens by providing police services to the town of Guadalupe.

Anonymous says:

Then again and again, all domestic laws must be enforced in the areas neglected by that fuckin` old Sheriff. But regardless,
I'm simply talking about communities rife with crime in East Mesa, Paradise Valley, Surprise, Sun City, Q.C., Fountain Hills and Cave Creek.
These communities are infected with rabid white type crimes such as Child Molestations/ Teacher and Student Abuse, Rapists, Outlaw Bikers or 1%ers, Meth Heads/Tweakers, DUI`s, Burgulars and Domestic Terrorists of the Neo-cons.

This is exactly why, I'm calling on the BIG-FIVE`s!! The Law Enforcers!

You pissed stained checkered toothed natavists sicken me!

I'm ashamed to be a part of this hyprocrisy calling itself natavism! Just look at the ongoing internal conflicts of our little group called ACU.
Our petition efforts on the mayor is not working! The clock is ticking!

As an American we need to enforce the real laws--
Boy!!

FrankG says:

Anonymous,

I don't know where you get your information from but there has only been 1 287g class held in 2008 and maybe there were 5 Phoenix PD officers in that class.

As far as PLEA goes, they are a joke. Mark Spencer has a hard on for the Mayor and the Chief so he jumped in bed with Ar-pie-hole. Most PD officers don't agree with Spencer and think he's an idiot.

Anonymous says:

Frank G, continuing to live your ill informed life only makes you look more foolish. You must just make up facts as you type. I have personally attended and graduated a 287(g) course last week (but I'm sure you'll try and convince your idiot, lawless peer group here that I just imagined the 24 class hours.


Philiberto begins to cave. Maybe he has caught wind of the huge response we have had thus far.

Too little, too late Phil. You're history.

Police to follow new illegal immigration policy

May 8th, 2008 @ 4:37pm
by Sandra Haros/KTAR

There will soon be changes in the way Phoenix police officers communicate with illegal immigration.

Phoenix police officers will be receiving new guidelines on how to deal with suspected illegal immigrants. Phoenix mayor Phil Gordon said training is well underway.

"The vast majority of the police department have been trained, 3,000 officers," he said. "Within the next two to three weeks, we'll have a press conference with the chief announcing that the order is in place."

The new policy states, among other things, anyone arrested for a misdemeanor or felony will be asked their immigration status.

Anonymous says:

Slavyanski LOL!!

That was a good one. Another thing they forget to mentioned in the "ITG" is another fact that internet tough guys often times gloat about having some kind of military experience, particularily the Marines or other elite forces, just to bolster to their persona as a "tough guy" champion. When they actually resemble the geeks in the "tough guy gallery". Lol.

HAHAHAHAHA!!!

Steele says:

Slavyansk, thanks for sharing the other worthless rags you subscribe to with us. Now go open up a can of man, read your tough guy magazines and try to mustard up some courage to contact me directly, instead of talking shit in front of your fag friends.

Kochise says:

Feathered Bastard I hope yuo were able to watch the Newsmaker with John Hoon of FOX10@ 7:30 this morning.

I gotta give kudos to John for asking hardball questions to the self described "Toughest Sheriff in America" where that KKK pansy Darell Ankarlo couldn't ask.

John brought up key issues including the Honduran scam where the Sheriff would not talk about it due to the "sensitivity" of the topic. The same bullshit we keep hearing from the ancient Lawman.

At the end of the segment John Hoon was abled to bring up the arrests of Lacy and Larkin of the Phoenix New Times as the geriatric Sheriff saying it was justified. Hoon told him that his address was already posted on the internet. Which by the way, is true.

It was very entertaing to watch the Joe Shows especially the humorous part that John mentioned the "memory" of that old man sitting before him as "amazing"(meaning Joe`s memory was almost always incorrect as his own disadvantage) saying that Joe will be 76 in June(I didn't hear this part accurately since my girlfriend was laughing).
The oldman obviously is suffering from acute memory loss. Going so far as claim that he is still in the 70% percentile(which is incorrect), John corrected him by saying it was LOWER than that.

Way to go John!

Time to vote that Joke out come this November.....

Todd Stallion says:

I think anyone who begins a post by asking:

Did you watch Fox News at 7:30 AM ?

Should be neutered and expelled from society and live a life shuned, alone in the wilderness.

It was beautiful this morning, turn the fucking TV off and go outside

Dennis Gilman says:

Steele says:
to Slavinsky:" Now go open up a can of man, read your tough guy magazines and try to mustard up some courage to contact me directly, instead of talking shit in front of your fag friends."
STEELE SAYS CONTACT HIM DIRECTLY?

Steele- How many times do we have to go through this? You are a racist little coward. How can anyone contact you directly when you are afraid to use your real name? DUH!

Its just dumb to keep doing this post after post. Thats why most of us just ignore your threats. I'll bet you wouldn't use your full name even if some one saw you in public do to insecurity issues. Its ok. But violence is part of your movement and not mine. Deal with it.

FrankG says:

Ana,

24 hour class? Now I know you are full of it.

What was the last name of the lead trainer?

As to being ill informed, I don't think so.

FrankG says:

I'm not going to have this big nternet pissing contest with you anonymous. You don't know me or my views but we are both on the smae side. I am not pro illegal but hate bozo joke.

FrankG says:

I'm surprised the joke's handlers let the old man talk to somebody other than KKKTAR. He's going senile and has selective memory loss.

Honduras sensitive? You got to be kidding me........

Slavyanski says:

So Steele, I take it you reply basically amounts to this:

http://images.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/d/d3/Internettoughkid.jpg


Answer me this Steele, were you really stupid enough to believe those are real publications? If so I'm sure it got your hopes up.

Let me remind you, that over a MONTH ago I challenged you to a sabre-duel to the death in Moscow, right in Teatralnaya square. You ignored this challenge twice, the only reason for which MUST be your own cowardice.

No matter, I suppose you would rather live in eternal shame than face Cossack steel and Circassian kindjal blade!

craig tillman says:

To Gilman, first there will be no cameras, second, this will be one on one .I don’t need any help in defeating your “arguments” third, facts are to presented on the issue of illegal immigration, yours and mine, fourth at any point the issue is turned to racism, the discussion will end, fifth, this discussion will be civil no name calling, no finger pointing, no accusations from either side. The discussion will be held in a public place or restaurant and the address will be agreed upon by you and I no one else from either side will be there. If for any reason the one party does not feel comfortable at the location the discussion will be moved. No recording devices of any type will be allowed. These terms are not negotiable. This discussion will be between two people with opposing views. You will have your time to speak and I will listen then I will speak and you will listen. Again facts for and against illegal immigration. Now, as for your personal issues, I personally have not phoned your house, to associate me with this is irresponsible. I really don’t care if others have done so it is because you gave out the information and that’s your fault. As far as the day labor center, the center has been operating for over two years without the proper permit. Second we have not cost the city, Sal Reza threatened to shut down a legitimate business that has been in business for over fifty years! The illegals were on the business property! Your Buddy Sal Reza and the mayor have cost the citizens of phoenix the 200,000 dollars! The fight was taken to Sal and because of his cheeks being into Gordon’s pants and sucking dollars for support. As for my military service, I enlisted in 1967 and volunteered for duty in Vietnam again Volunteered, I have over 1500 combat flying hours on UH1 Huey helicopters which included at least seven medivac, and a extraction under fire of LRRPS,. Food flights to the peoples of Vietnam and the blood of my brothers was washed from my aircraft. By the way, I was nineteen years old. I have an honorable discharge. As for leaching off my country, at no time have I ever applied for Government Assistance off the backs of my fellow Americans. Not like your illegal buddies. I have worked form the age of sixteen, I still work the only reason I was at the capitol was to support our nation and its values. I took off from work. It cost me. Your true colors are waving your last line indicated “your country” This country is our country unless you are illegal or owe allegiance to another country! There is nothing wrong with America that Americans can’t fix! This is the greatest country on earth! Honor It! What have you done?To Gilman, first there will be no cameras, second, this will be one on one .I don’t need any help in defeating your “arguments” third, facts are to presented on the issue of illegal immigration, yours and mine, fourth at any point the issue is turned to racism, the discussion will end, fifth, this discussion will be civil no name calling, no finger pointing, no accusations from either side. The discussion will be held in a public place or restaurant and the address will be agreed upon by you and I no one else from either side will be there. If for any reason the one party does not feel comfortable at the location the discussion will be moved. No recording devices of any type will be allowed. These terms are not negotiable. This discussion will be between two people with opposing views. You will have your time to speak and I will listen then I will speak and you will listen. Again facts for and against illegal immigration. Now, as for your personal issues, I personally have not phoned your house, to associate me with this is irresponsible. I really don’t care if others have done so it is because you gave out the information and that’s your fault. As far as the day labor center, the center has been operating for over two years without the proper permit. Second we have not cost the city, Sal Reza threatened to shut down a legitimate business that has been in business for over fifty years! The illegals were on the business property! Your Buddy Sal Reza and the mayor have cost the citizens of phoenix the 200,000 dollars! The fight was taken to Sal and because of his cheeks being into Gordon’s pants and sucking dollars for support. As for my military service, I enlisted in 1967 and volunteered for duty in Vietnam again Volunteered, I have over 1500 combat flying hours on UH1 Huey helicopters which included at least seven medivac, and a extraction under fire of LRRPS,. Food flights to the peoples of Vietnam and the blood of my brothers was washed from my aircraft. By the way, I was nineteen years old. I have an honorable discharge. As for leaching off my country, at no time have I ever applied for Government Assistance off the backs of my fellow Americans. Not like your illegal buddies. I have worked form the age of sixteen, I still work the only reason I was at the capitol was to support our nation and its values. I took off from work. It cost me. Your true colors are waving your last line indicated “your country” This country is our country unless you are illegal or owe allegiance to another country! There is nothing wrong with America that Americans can’t fix! This is the greatest country on earth! Honor It! What have you done?

Steele says:

Why would I post my name on this piece of shit blog Dennis??? I have posted my personal email address 3 times, not 1 single email from anyone of you fucking cowards.

Because I respect my family and home life (something you'll never comprehend Dennis) I would never volunteer my home address to you or your terrorist liberal pussy friends.

Unlike your "claim" of phone calls in the middle of the night (please Dennis) if anyone dared disrespecting my home or my family the Police would be called to recover a body.

Any phone call can be traced within a matter of 1 hour. So if your claim was truthful, you should be raving about the arrest(s) by now Dennis.

If your claim of a Police report for terrorist call(s) was made, please provide further information Dennis. I also frown on terroristic tactics as I do any illegal activity. But we both know that won't happen, since there was no report made.

Maybe your boyfriend feels sorry for you Dennis, but nobody else does.

Steele says:

Slavyanski,

Let me remind you, that over a MONTH ago I challenged you to a sabre-duel to the death in Moscow, right in Teatralnaya square. You ignored this challenge twice, the only reason for which MUST be your own cowardice.

No matter, I suppose you would rather live in eternal shame than face Cossack steel and Circassian kindjal blade!


Slavyanski, this is not some geek game of Dungeons and Dragons. I would suggest you put the dope down, sober up a bit and get a mental evaluation

Smooth says:

Craig Tillman, I respect your challenge to Dennis BUT he will either A) Never respond or B)respond with excuses of being afraid that it is a set up.....you see Mr Gillman enjoys the camera.....he like the way it projects his shrill voice.....it also allows him to go home and "doctor" video as he has done in the video attached to this blog.

He "creates" things to make his life seem worthwhile as he goes through it with the shame and guilt of abandoning his children.....his failure to pay child support and his obvious internal struggle with his sexual orientation.

He is a sad pathetic man who must have had his lunch money taken from him one too many times.....he also reminds me of the kind of guy that failed military basic training due to physical ineptness.

But, alas I should stop typing before I am accused of "threatening" him.
I hope that his guilt and shame of his failures as a man haunt his sleepless nights for a long long time.

Steele says:

Will never happen Craig. The only time Dennis has met another man one on one was at a gay bath house.

Noble offer, but you're dealing with a coward.

Anonymous says:

$200,000!?! Oh please--gimmie-a-freakin-break.

Seriously, that's nothing compared to the alarming amounts that Sheriff is currently costing tax payers, which is around $41.5 million and counting!!!
Obiously, you retrograded subhumans who back the Sheriff have no lick of common sense when it comes to realization and facts based reports.
None of you fucktards amount to anything, but hype, burning for attention, through ignorant stricken efforts such as this recall petition for one. A once failed attempt on your part will surely be disastrious the 2nd attempt, possibly leading to the death and downfall of the American Citizens United, a perfect exemplification as a defunct org whose little band never sets its own by-laws to govern themselves. Everybody will be watching, thus to learn the impeding mistakes this group is bound for. They are doomed for failure!!
What you're trying to prove here doesn't equal the patriotism of the repsected Mayor and the Police Depts valleywide who "enforces all apects of the laws' written in the books!!
Please get a life folks--that is, if you have one.

I have seen the light, and pledge alliagence to the law!

Dennis Gilman says:

Craig Tillman,
Usually I read all the posts but that one is too long and weird. Its just a lot of weirdness with words and phrases repeating themselves. If you feel better after posting it, then I guess it helped someone. Once again, I am reminded that there are serouisly mentally challenged folks like yourself who should be left alone and not filmed. Unlike the anoying phone threats from your freinds-You,sir, scare the shit out of me.I have always beleived that Vet's Mental Health Benefits were under funded and you need help. Really- I mean no direspect. I beleive I'll try to keep a distance from you. Some thing is not right and its as though you've been waiting for some time to do something strange. So, lets not meet.
Tell your freinds at U.S.A that Gilman ran like a chicken and you taught him a thing or two. whew...


Hey Steele,
What does "go open up a can of man" mean?.
Its like lyrics to Village People music or something.

Warren Zevon says:

Sorry douchebags, Dennis G.'s got more nads than you've ever stared at in the men's locker room, or that you'll ever have -- in your mouth.

First, he uses his real name, unlike Steele and Smooth. Secondly, you've bot got his info, so why should he contact either of you. And finally, Craig Tillman, why would he want to spend any more time with you than he already does. Sounds like he sees you Sheriff Joe buttlickers all the friggin time.

Why would he wanna go on a date with you, Craig? And more importantly, why do you wanna go on a date with him?Sounds like you're a little too interested in Dennis the Menace. Hmmmm.

DEnnis gilman says:

Steele Says:
"Any phone call can be traced within a matter of 1 hour. So if your claim was truthful, you should be raving about the arrest(s) by now Dennis."

Listen up inernettuffguy- First of all ,you have to hit star 52, and the call must come from the same # 3 times. In the case of the other night, it was a pay phone 602 954-9647. So Steele- I dont think shooting a phone is going to help.

You guys are so tuff. Its ridiculous. As I have stated time and time again. When I became an adult, I stopped with the fist-fights. It just a bit immature, but it is amusing to see full grown folks such as yourself still think its important. It is the same Bully Mentality that has you harassing Day Laborers/our Nations Poorest. You are cowards. You are afraid to go after the real problem so you pick on someone and their children who are trying to survive by taking the job you wont work anyway.

And speaking of children. Mine are grown up, so I dont pay Child support to 27 year olds and 22 year olds. Its kind of dumb calling me a DeadBeat Dad, but go ahead.Perhaps you still live at home, but my kids sure as hell dont. You folks sure are obsessed with me though. In fact I expect alot more name calling and I'm sure you'll think of something worse.

Here is a bit of Internet Tuff guy Nostalgia to leave you with:


smooth says:
"Dennis Gillman,
Be sure and look me up. You and i are going to discuss your last post man to man, face to face.
And I promise, you will be worth the assault charge punk."

Keith Lefebvre
602-200-4646
Call me tough guy."

Aww- The Good Ol Days. That is a direct quote from the State Media Liason of AMERICAN CITIZENS UNITED.
Now dont you all feel safer knowing they are out there sticking up for the Sheriff and helping enforce "The rule of Law"? God help us all.

Kochise says:

Actually Todd, those that practice faggotry in vile forms are already "neutered". They can't produce and I certainly hope you can't.

But regardless of that, your kindreds will no longer be superior by 2060.
Caucasians expected to see a significant decline by 2040:

http://www.census.gov/Press-Release/www/release/archives/population/00170.html

Faggots are is one reason why their self-destructive.

Anonymous says:

Can Of Man?

Concerned in Maricopa County says:

Keep up the great work Stephen, for giving the public a bird's eye view of the the Mayberry group at the May Day Rally -- and they think they are better than Mayor Gordon? Unbelievable! If I hadn't been following your blogs, I would have thought this was a TV parody show, instead it's the reality of what lives in Arizona.

Today on Newsmaker Sunday, John Hook asked tough questions of Sheriff Arpaio -- great show! Hope we can get a video of it and put it on your blog. Arpaio didn't want to discuss Honduras. For someone who froths at the mouth talking, he instantly clammed up. I think you're onto something Stephen, and John Hook drop-kicked it through the goal posts!

I noticed that no one is talking about the murder last week at Madison Street jail? How has that gone unnoticed? That might be why the rap star hit the TV this week, redigging for dog bones or dried poop, forgot which it was. The dog stories seem to appear when there is something to hide. It's very predictible. Whose running the jails, the gangs or the sheriff? People ask and want to know.

Also on Saturday Desert Politics, Todd Landfried had attorneys Michael Manning and Joel Robbins discussing cruelty in Arpaio's jails, loss of life of detainees, mounting lawsuits exceeding $40 million, Honduras RICO funds -- which you were the first to expose. It's being passed on too many others to research further. Didn't have to look far to find very disturbing connections.

Now your article today, what a week! The rolling snowball is gaining momentum and the light is shining more brightly then ever, exposing the truth of disaster we have in Maricopa County, and the elected officials who are eroding our quality of life here. Arizona needs to wake-up and take action! It's almost too late.

Concerned Citizen says:

Minutemen exposed video is an eye-opener, seeing white guys carrying the American flag taunting and bullying a small tan skinned man. This group is fomenting the start of a war and must be brought under control -- this looks like abusive criminal behavior to me. Arpaio should be arresting the goon carrying the flag.

The hatred, intolerance and ignorance, shines through clearly in the video clips and it is chilling to think this is what's going on in Maricopa County.

Stephen, your article is a great public service and you deserve a Pulitzer Prize. The photographer of the video should enter it as a documentary in the Sundance Film Festival. "Intolerance in Arizona 2008"

Concerned Voter says:

Thanks for giving us a moving picture of who these people are. I'll make sure I vote against anyone this group supports and thanks for the warning on the video -- I won't be signing any of their petitions! Keep up the great work.

Confused says:

Need help with "Sign" in the video, "Why do they think they are above our laws?" Is this about County Attorney A. Thomas and Sheriff Arpaio?

bigfoot says:

You are a liar. I was in Vietnan for a year 3 months and on numerous choppers. Never did I come across a 19 year old pilot. I have found that people that brag about there combat experience are nothing but liars. I bet you were a cook in the service, maybe worse a clerk.

Slavyanski says:

Steele, and the rest of the Tardpack need to read this before continuing the discussion:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarcasm

I was trying to illustrate a point, that people make challenges online BECAUSE they know they will never be answered.

Nearly all your posts, and the posts of some of your equally retarded and sexually insecure friends revolve around trying to prove how "manly" you are. If for some strange reason you need to prove your masculinity(to whom? yourself?) in that fashion, you could have gone down to any number of MMA schools in the Phoenix area and you'd get all the fighting experience you could want. But no, you hide on the internet, knowing you are safe.

Your constant accusations of homosexuality, and your obsession with manliness speak volumes about internal struggles going on within you. Nobody truly secure in their manhood or masculinity would find the need to constantly bring up the subject. The degree to which you continually talk about these things suggests that perhaps you had a homosexual experience in your childhood at a time when you did not understand such things, and ever since then you have been trying to compensate for that. Of course I am not a qualified individual to make such a hypothesis, though I would be fascinated to read a real psychologists report about your defects.

So in conclusion, you are basically a retard of some sort. You cannot defend the merits of your beliefs, ergo you make threats on a medium where you know you are safe. One day however, you will threaten somebody with less to lose than you, somebody who is just as fucked up in the head, and such a person will find you and most likely pulverize your skull- as such people usually have a lot of fighting experience from being in and out of the joint. And the tragedy is that Gillman won't be there to film it for everyone's amusement.

mary says:

Gilman said: "MUSTARD up some courage to"

Hey Gilman, do you want some ketchup with that mustard? hahahahahahaha!!! You don't MUSTARD up some courage!! You idiot!! Stop writing!! Your are embarrasing yourself. Go back to kindergarten!!

Could someone please direct me to a picture of Buck wearing a do-rag?? The Feathered Bastard mis-spoke on that matter, as well as many other matters. If you can't get the facts straight you shouldn't be writing. Go back to coloring!!

D.J. Racist Ryke says:

Dennis Gilman I think you should keep a low profile and stay out of the spotlight for awhile. Since you seemed to be a possible target for a hatecrime.

But because you are White, I don't think it will be a hatecrime if the perpertrators are White as well. White on White is not a hatecrime unless it has something to do with your sexual orientation.

Even if you're not straight, the punishment of a hatecrime is harsh, if it can be proven beyond a reasonable doubt.

That's why I applaud the Hatecrimes Bill which went into effect of last year. This way, it can be applied to hate-mongers such as those threatening you(ie Steele, Smooth, Jim Williams etc).

If a hatecrime was committed on you, well we all know who is cupable and held accountable. This is when the true Law Enforcers steps in to arrest those Law-Breaking Natavists and Hate-Mongers.

May the Law Prevail.

D.J. Racist Ryke says:

I forgot to add that all Americans should be deported and the SouthWest should be repopulated with the true native Visigoth Spanish and Basque.

The language of the SouthWest should be Castilian which was brought here across the land bridge. This will be my last post in the oppresive Anglish language.

Smooth says:

Dennis Gillman says:

"As far as me sticking anything in your face, you would
suck on it just like you did your Daddies and you would swallow as always, you little bitch".

Isn't it wonderful to know that we live in a day and age where someone can say something like this to an individual on the internet without the fear of any consequences??

How I long for the day when men settled there differences like men without the fear of lawyers being called. But alas, the weak have resorted to political correctness to hide behind. Men like Dennis Gillman have pushed words like "honor" and "integrity" and "manhood" and "brotherhood" aside, probably because they have never experienced them.
Tomorrow I go and bury a great friend and patriot named Buck Young and today people like Dennis Gillman get to spread their vile and obscenities and hide behind lawyers and cowardice.
There are some things that are just not right.

Bigfoot says:

Hey Smooth: Buck Young was not a patriot. He was racist and he associated with Neo'Nazi's. God punished him, he was killed on "cinco de mayo".

Jim Williams says:

Smooth fits the perfect mental state of an Neonderthal, whose atonomy is still in the ape-like formation and his peniled brains the size of the Sumatra Oranguntan subspecies. Only to speak volk impedimentaly.

However, today I have come to the realization that this recall petition aimed at the Phoenix Mayor Phil Gordon is indeed a blatant mistake on my part. I apologize to all those involve and I shall see to it that this petition is nulled and void.

Bob and I had a big fight on the phone the other day, and he talked some sense into me by explaination. And now I feel like a fucking idiot and so ashamed of myself. My name--Jim Williams is now tarnished with retardation.
And I hate being a part of this nonsense any longer. I'm depressed as a White Guy and been out drinking last night and I must seek psychiatric help!

Jim Williams--
Natavist

Slavyanski says:

Smooth, which side issued the internet tough guy challenges first?

AZ Observer says:

After reading this blog, I won't sign ANY petition this hate-mongers pass around. I won't vote for anyone they support. Stephen please make sure to post the names of who they support and vote for so we don't make a mistake at the polls. The petition against Mayor Gordon isn't worth the paper it's written on -- a bunch of ignorant bigots that seem to dominate Arizona and Maricopa County. We are really is sad shape here. I won't be investing or bringing my business to this state!! Your blog should be included in the Chamber of Commerce packets and tourist brochures, then there would be "full disclosure" of what this state is! It's disgusting.

Anonymous says:

BigFoot,

You just crossed a line that you will regret.

Dennis Gilman says:

BigFoot,

I have to say, that I do not share your views. As much as I disagreed with what Buck stood for, I beleive he had alot of good in his heart and it is obvious by those that did know him and love him. If it were not such a hostile situation, I'd be paying my condolences. True enough- we were not freinds and were in fact probably enemies, but he was a unique personality and deserves respect. Although I have a way to go as an individual, I seek to be more non violent in all my actions. By saying that, I realize that I open myself up to being called a hipacrat and I have to own some of that also. But, hopefully, Buck is somewhere he isn't worryed about
the color of anyones skin or whether they have Documents or not. Given the love and respect he carrys with his freinds and family, I doubt if St. Peter had to check his papers at the gate.

craig tillman says:

to big foot , Have you ever herd of a Crew Chief? I never said i was a pilot.As for My Friend Buck , i would never wish the same on anyone .you have shown a total disregard for the family and have shown what a real idiot is.As for Gilman The reason you have elected to bow out is because you and your fellow open borders crowd have no LEGAL argument. As for my mental health? i know the difference between right and wrong , I know the sky is blue and the grass is green and i know you are a laboratory failure. the only reason you are out on the streets is because the state cannot afford to keep you in the "cuckoos nest". As for the rest of your lame excuses for being human and your fellow idiots. the gun show is this weekend. buy one if you can and use it on your self! by the way this is my real name i dont need to hide behind a pseudonym(this means a another name to you idiots)Bigfoot what a joke!

Angel says:

DG

Those were kind words!

RaHoWa`s End says:

Some fucknuts can really say shit that can set off a White version of the Wyatt`s Riot. Bigfoot--you dumbfuck! You nearly caused a White backlash because of your stupid asasine remarks.
Now I gotta start getting prepared, stock up to lock and load for fear these barbarians are gonna start to pilidge and plunder the streets.

I'm no Hispanic but I am now supporting their fight for Freedom. I have witnessed enough of the ugly darkside of the natavist movement and want no part of it. Unlike Dennis, I don't promote open borders or homosexuality. So I will distant myself from his cause. But my support now goes to the comrades of the Constitutionalists fighting for their Constitutional Rights.
And I hope the law will crush the outlaws of the far right.
But as an American fighting for Freedom. We must take a stand against these Neo-Con "hate-mongers" as someone on here has called it.

88 R.I.P.
FREEDOM.

Slavyanski says:

There are plenty of good arguments against the hysterical nativists. I keep repeating them and for some reason I can't get an answer.

1. Why is immigration law, the violation of which not even being a criminal offense, the only law that nativists seem to be so concerned with? It stands to reason that nativists, like anyone else, occasionally break laws that are misdemeanors all the time.

2. If their cause is just, why do they continually get busted making up statistical lies about the alleged drain on the economy, about diseases, about crime caused by illegal immigrants?

3. If it is just about coming here legally, why is it that NO nativist groups support a guest-worker program to make it easier to come here legally?

JT Ready says:

Who was that obese tub of lard with the extra gut hanging way down low over his perverse groin slinking around in the background like a pedophile-looking penguin?

Now that is who I want to represent my cause!

MANDO O says:

THESE PEOPLE ARE CLOSET RACISTS AND THUGS DOESNT IT LOOK LIKE A HELLS ANGELS GATHERING.I JUST CAME BACK FROM SAN DIEGO TO SEE MY BROTHER GRADUATE FROM BOOT CAMP AS SHOCKING AS IT MY SOUND TO IDIOTS LIKE THE USA STEELE AND SMOOTH ABOUT HALF OF THE MARINES WERE MEXICAN(MEXICAN AMERICAN) AND LIKE MY PARENTS MOST OF THESE PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE CAME HERE "ILLEGALY" YOU IGNORANT RACISTS NATIVISTS THINK US MEXICANS ARE ONLY HERE FOR THE WRONG REASONS AND THEREFORE FOUND THIS RED HOT ISSUE OF IMMIGRATION AS AN EXCUSE TO GET RID OF US ...........

craig tillman says:

Gilman, dont try to cover your stupidy by some false horseshit. you are the problem and infestation that that has been allowed to live.If you truly belive that this great nation owes, then fine ,give your check to all the freeloaders .if you belive that this country is the fault of the worlds problems stand up and solve them! if you belive that The United States of America is the problem, Leave it! i will buy you the the fucking ticket!!!!!! . This is your one of your options the other one is, you figure it out!
the Constitution of the United States does not grant entitlements to to illegal immigrants . The only protection it does protect is Free Assembly, The right to a Fair trial, The Right to an Attorney,Habious Corpus,the right to trial by jury.this is their only "legal rights" no Anchor Babies (ref 14th ammendent section 5). you are and butt buddy lemon and big foot are the the real problems. if you and your fellow morons want to meeet ill take all of you on! you just name the time and place, im tired of this crap. email harley _930312 @ yahoo.com youll never know what happened!!!!! you have insulted the fallen heroes and the very beginning of this nation!

Steele says:

Deniss,

The truth just escapes you, doesn't it. I have contacts in the Scottsdale PD. No Police report was taken for your "threatening phone call". Good effort to actually find a pay phone so you could post a pay phone number to try and convince your loser friends on this blog. Star 52 is a civilian option, I am referring to the method law enforcement would use to track a threatening call, which they will do the very first time your report (which you haven't, since no one would be stupid enough to call you, dummy.

You sure you want to stick to the story about you not being a dead beat Dad Dennis????

Here's the docket number for his child-support arrears case: DR1988-000753

Or just copy and paste this URL into your browser:

http://www.superiorcourt.maricopa.gov/docket/FamilyCourtCases/caseInfo.asp?caseNumber=DR1988-000753


Kind of ruins your credibility, huh Dennis???

You and your boyfriend get some sleep tonight Dennis. The truth will set you free.......

SteeleProvesHesaTard says:

Steele, do you know the difference between "Petitioner" and "Respondent"? Petitioner means you're the one seeking the child support, not the one who owes the child support.

Dennis is listed as the "Petitioner."

That means that ALL of you Gilman-haters owe the guy an apology. He's not a deadbeat dad. He raised his kids. No one hit him up for child support.

You people have no shame. Try telling the truth for a change. I think Dennis should consider suing all of your asses. Pathetic.

Jimbo V.P. Riders Against Illegal Aliens says:

Steve, You are a real piece of work. We have had words before, and I tried to keep it civil. But you have insulted the memory of a man I deeply respect and admire. I came from his wake tonight, and what do I find but you and a handful of racist illegal alien flag wavers. You know me, and I you. Buck is gone, but I will continue our mission, and believe me, I really look foreword to seing you again. You will see the light. RAIA will not tollerate racism within our ranks, nor will we tollerate disrespect to the American people or values. This is far from over. Lets get together sometime with your "brown beret" folks. You know these guys steve-o? Lets party.

Love Always,
Jimbo
National Vice President, RAIA

Dennis Gilman says:

Steele,
You boys are more obsesed with me than The Press is with Paris Hilton.
You are a stupid ass though. If you knew how to read a court document, you would know that Dennis is the Petitioner. Yes, it is true. I was a single father for 14 years. Now take your head out of your ass and reread the doc. And you dont have freinds in the Scottsdale Police Force. If you did, you would know a bit more about a few things concerning the Harassment Charges , the recordings and the last phone call. And if you did have freinds in the Scottsdale Police Force and said " I have freinds in the Scottsdale Police Force" and proceeded to discuss an on-going case, you would no longer have freinds in the Scotsdale Police force. DUMBASS. You really are the poster child for Internet Tough Guy.


Steele,
One thing you are is good for laughs.
Thanks for ending the Deadbeat Dad thing. As you said "The Truth will set you free" (hahahaha)

EVERYBODY-THANK STEELE FOR CLEARING IT UP:

http://www.superiorcourt.maricopa.gov/docket/FamilyCourtCases/caseInfo.asp?caseNumber=DR1988-000753

Learn the differance between Petitioner and Respondent Dumbass. This may be part of the reason that the recall
probably wont work. Dumbass- if you want to find dirt on me, its not that hard. I'm no saint. That also may be a reason for you to be careful. But keep digging.

Also, that ex is a decent lady and a good freind of mine as is her husband. Her husband is not into the nonviolent thing that I'm working on. So -just a suggestion- Oh never mind. Go for it.

Word to the wise Dick Tracey- read your shit a little closer before you share it next time and remember, sooner or later, your full name, address will appear. So you may want to stat hoping now that I have more class than you do.

Either way, thanks for clearing it up.

Now whenever anyone wonders about the Deadbeat Dad thing, we will just refer them to the link you provided.

Word- sooner or later we will know your real name. Untill then, see you in the next movie.

Stephen Lemons says:

Just for everyone who wasn't there, and may be confused by Jimbo's comments, the protesters he's referring to were outside the Italian Club last night where Arpaio was giving a speech. They were not protesting Buck Young's wake. I doubt if more than one or two of those people even know who Buck Young is.

I'll have a report and photos up later on the protest last night. To my knowledge, everyone there on the anti-Arpaio side was an American citizen, though opposed to the persecution of the undocumented.


Pat Tillman says:

Can't we all just shoot each other in the back?

Angel says:

Pat Tillman,

Was that supposed to be funny?

Dennis Gilman says:

I'm going to say this once and once only JIMBO.

I am sorry for your loss. Beleive it or go fuck yourself.

Dont blame us because of his death. We did not kill him and neither did the so called "Invaders". Most folks dont know who Buck was, others dont care. Some of us felt for you until you tried playing victim. I would've hoped you folks would've been grieving and acting like humans. Instead you chose to come see your Sheriff. Your world might stop over Buck's death, but ours doesn't. And he is no more or less important than the people who die almost every day crossing the Arizona Desert trying to feed their family. Or the innocent person who dies in Arpaios jails because they decide to tie him to a chair and beat on him. Or the baby who is miscarried in Arpaios
Torture chambers because he refuses to give medical treatment to prisoners. So dont think for one minute that we are going to stop protesting Arpaio, Racism and Hatred
because you lost your friend. We are not murderers. We did not kill him. Grieve as long as you need to but get over that whole line of thought as it will not be a healthy path for your soul or cause or organization.

You say you are the VP? What kind of leader brings his people to a protest after a funeral of a brother?

What kind of people Blog on-line trying to start fights after their freind dies?

Steele says:

After spending the day laying to rest my brother Buck, I also spent some quality time with true friends and family. It was pointed out that I was wasting my precious time on this blog, and that my presence only provided entertainment for your deranged followers.

Therefore you will no longer receive any further posts from me on this worthless rag. My energy will be completely focused on enforcing and upholding ALL laws, supporting Sheriff Joe and Andrew Thomas, and supporting all Law Enforcement Officers and PLEA.

I will continue to discard every single issue of the New Times I see in newsstands, and continue my campaign to convince store owners that the obscenity and advertisements found in the New Times for prostitution are irresponsible and dis respectable to the general Public. I have personally been responsible for 7 stands being removed.

I just thank God that you people only represent less than 5% of the population.